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Title: Barack Obama: Shape Shifting Reptilian Overlord or Pure Human?
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Published: Jul 4, 2010
Author: russell huebsch
Post Date: 2010-07-04 14:41:52 by Turtle
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Views: 16441
Comments: 362

Is Barack Obama really a shape shifting reptilian humanoid from a far away galaxy bent on the enslavement of the human race? According to David Icke, who claims on his web site that most world leaders come from a line of reptilians originating in the Alpha Draconis, Barack Obama is most likely a blood drinking shape shifter bent on progressing the New World Order. Icke's reptilian theory makes the claim that reptilians plan to control humanity and other civilizations through fear and negative emotion, a food source for the reptilian. Icke believes the reptilians plan for world domination started to unravel with the September 11 attacks on New York and Obama's presidency will lead us into this "New World Order", but is this just mere babbling from a sick mind or does this theory have some legitimacy? Here are signs that the Obama reptilian conspiracy is true.

"Change we need": Has Obama told us all along that he is a changeling/shape shifting reptilian? Think about it, change always happens when a new president enters office, perhaps Obama's corporeal body is crying out to the world that a shape shifting reptilian alien has hijacked his avatar. "Change" might also be a code word for reptilian dictators across the globe that America has elected another shape shifter as president. Even Adolph Hitler claimed to bring change for the German people, but as we know all the only thing the world received from Hitler was millions of lost lives and the genocide of an entire race of people. Whatever this "change" really means it certainly does not bode well for the future of America and even worse for the human race.

The questionable birth certificate: Why would any presidential candidate try so desperately to hide a real birth certificate? Perhaps because reptilian overlords do not receive birth certificates, they congeal out of a pile of goo! The voting public would never vote for a space reptilian and if the plan for world domination ever leaked to the general there would be mass chaos, thus the Republican party could never reveal Obama's true ancestry and the reptilian conspiracy continues.


Poster Comment:

I always thought Obama was just half kaffir and half white trash race traitor. But perhaps he's a David Icke blood-drinking shape-shifting space reptile...

I, for one, welcome our new reptilian overloads. I'll point out to them all my enemies, so they can eat them.

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#54. To: Original_Intent (#50)

One can look at the sharp angular cut of the beam, along with the telltale slag from having reached a molten state and know that the beam was sliced intentionally in some fashion. A paper fire does not do that, nor burning office furnishings, Jet fuel, or any of the other proposed mechanisms. The best the debunkers can come up with is the assertion that someone might have cut it after the fact while providing no sound rationale for cutting it at a steep angle

I already showed you a picture of an iron worker using a cutting torch on WTC post-crash.

Here is is again. From the same place the Truthers got their photos, but conveniently ignored.

He's just lit the oxy-acetylene flame and is adjusting it.

They make angular cuts to make sure the remaining part of the building fall where they can be cleaned up easily.

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"Let them all pass all their dirty remarks (One Love)
There is one question I'd really love to ask (One Heart)
Is there a place for the hopeless sinner
Who has hurt all mankind just to save his own?"

Bob Marley

AGAviator  posted on  2010-07-06   13:36:03 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#55. To: Turtle (#53)

I used to make thermite when I was 12, 13. Rust and powdered aluminum. Set it off with Fourth of July sparkle

Me too. I used magnesium ribbon.

And my Dad was a highway superintendent who switched over to ammonium nitrate from dynamite when blasting through granite mountains. Cheaper than dynamite and more bank for the buck.

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"Let them all pass all their dirty remarks (One Love)
There is one question I'd really love to ask (One Heart)
Is there a place for the hopeless sinner
Who has hurt all mankind just to save his own?"

Bob Marley

AGAviator  posted on  2010-07-06   13:38:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#56. To: AGAviator (#49)

Only Building 7 had unfought fires and the massive load of 40 stories above them.

The Chinese sure know how to build, don't they? It burned a lot hotter and a lot longer than 7 did. It didn't fall.

www.guardian.co.uk/world/...centre-tower-beijing-fire

I'll watch your vids. If it is what I think it is, it just goes to show that there is bullshit on both sides. That is probably intentional.

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PSUSA  posted on  2010-07-06   13:42:23 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#57. To: PSUSA (#56) (Edited)

The Chinese sure know how to build, don't they? It burned a lot hotter and a lot longer than 7 did. It didn't fall.

All the WTC buildings had designs intended to maximize rental space by using the exterior walls - including novel tube load bearing designs - for greater amounts of load bearing than conventional buildings which use more interior columns.

Also WTC 7 exterior was severely bashed by falling beams from the Twin Towers that aren't shown in the CT videos, and had uncontrolled fires burning for hours fed by 43,000 gallons of diesel intended for the uninterrupted power supply which had its own pump continually feeding these fires.

Finally the east part of the WTC (not shown in CT videos, shown on my links) collapsed 8 seconds before the West and by shifting the remaining load to the West during the collapse made the entire building collapse inevitable.

Debunking 911: First Time in History (Steel Structure Collasping)

Conspiracy Theorists bring up the fact that the towers were the first steel high rises to fall from fire in history. The fact is the towers had other firsts that day they never seem to include.

There were a lot of firsts for the WTC. In all the history of high-rise fires, not one has ever been hit with a plane traveling 500 miles an hour and had its fire proofing removed from its trusses. In all the history of high-rise fires, not one has ever had its steel columns which hold lateral load sheared off by a 767.

In all the history of high-rise fires, not one has ever been a building which had its vertical load bearing columns in its core removed by an airliner. For Building 7, in all the history of high-rise fires, not one has ever been left for 6-7 hours with its bottom floors on fire with structural damage from another building collapse. Not the Madrid/Windsor tower did not have almost 40 stories of load on its supports after being hit by another building which left a 20 story gash.

The Madrid tower lost portions of its steel frame from the fire. Windsor's central core was steel reinforced concrete. In all the history of high-rise fires, not one has ever been without some fire fighters fighting the fires.

I could go on with the "Firsts" but you get the drift. The statement that the WTC buildings were the first high-rise buildings to collapse from fire is deceptive because it purposely doesn't take those factors into account.

Regular Building Column Design

WTC Column Design

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"Let them all pass all their dirty remarks (One Love)
There is one question I'd really love to ask (One Heart)
Is there a place for the hopeless sinner
Who has hurt all mankind just to save his own?"

Bob Marley

AGAviator  posted on  2010-07-06   13:53:48 ET  (2 images) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#58. To: PSUSA (#1)

Why does anyone believe anything he says? I mean, come on!

On the other hand: Is it more difficult to believe that BO is a lizard than it is to believe that he is a human being?

angK  posted on  2010-07-06   19:51:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#59. To: angK (#58)

I think he's neither a lizard man or a human. I think he's nothing more than a trained primate.


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PSUSA  posted on  2010-07-06   19:54:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#60. To: PSUSA (#59)

I think he's nothing more than a trained primate.

It's true. He's somebody's tool. He can't make a decision before he has checked with his masters.

angK  posted on  2010-07-06   20:52:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#61. To: AGAviator (#37)

the flight to the moon

so you believe that one too, eh? :-) your wordy defense of the so-called establishment is not going to convince anyone. because people closer to inelligence agencies & the halls of government than you'd dream of being have come out & said it was an inside job. so your list of 'credentialed experts' can work both ways.Also, your use of God's name in vain in an internet squabble reveals much that you are lacking. you wrote 'You have nothing'; but more appropriate is the Scripture 'Without Me, you can do nothing' (John 15:5)

"if I have all faith so as to move mountains, but do not have love, I am nothing." 1 Cor 12:31—13:13
"I don't know where Bin Laden is. I truly am not that concerned about him"
George W, Bush, 3/13/02 http://georgewbush-whitehouse.archives.gov/news/releases/2002/03/20020313-8.html

Artisan  posted on  2010-07-06   20:56:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#62. To: Artisan (#61) (Edited)

the flight to the moon so you believe that one too, eh? :-)...because people closer to inelligence agencies & the halls of government than you'd dream of being have come out & said it was an inside job.

Rrrrrriiiiiiiggggghhhhhhhhtttttt..... And you just happen to be one of the privileged recipients of their communications.......

Good one!!!!!

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"Let them all pass all their dirty remarks (One Love)
There is one question I'd really love to ask (One Heart)
Is there a place for the hopeless sinner
Who has hurt all mankind just to save his own?"

Bob Marley

AGAviator  posted on  2010-07-06   22:51:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#63. To: AGAviator, Artisan, wudidiz, all (#62)

the flight to the moon so you believe that one too, eh? :-)...because people closer to inelligence agencies & the halls of government than you'd dream of being have come out & said it was an inside job.

Rrrrrriiiiiiiggggghhhhhhhhtttttt..... And you just happen to be one of the privileged recipients of their communications.......

Good one!!!!!

Earth to AGGravator!

Earth to AGGravator!

Some of them are in the public record.

I repeat: Some of them are in the public record.

For example the Head of West German Intelligence.

The problem with using any "debunker" website is that they have an agenda other than the truth. They will NEVER publish or post anything which damages their debunking case. This is in contrast with most of the 911 Truth sites (the legitimate ones not government PsyOp sites) who will publish and/or post anything which is relevant. That also applies to any flavor of so-called "skeptic" and/or debunker websites. Invariably you can count on them to twist and misrepresent facts, and the so-called debunkers have repeatedly been proven wrong, if not outright frauds using false information such as Popular Mechanics. Another favorite is "Snopes" which was outed as being just two people, no research capabilities beyond standard search techniques, and wrong. Because a website pushes the "Official Truth™" does not mean it is THE truth. If you hadn't noticed the government frequently lies and has a large disinformation presence on the 'net.

"One of the least understood strategies of the world revolution now moving rapidly toward its goal is the use of mind control as a major means of obtaining the consent of the people who will be subjects of the New World Order." K.M. Heaton, The National Educator

Original_Intent  posted on  2010-07-07   13:25:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#64. To: Original_Intent (#63)

Earth to AGGravator!

Hyperbole and invective, the standard opening k00kresponse to an alternate reality 99% of the rest of the world's population finds believable. What a surprise < /sarc>...

Some of them are in the public record.

More unsubstantiated assertions with zero proof produced to support them.

Then there's the question of how our lucky poster just happens to personally receive this privileged informaiton.

You do know there are zillions of pictures of the moon rocket taking off, with astronauts in the cabin, a constantly updated log of activities and pictures to support them, an exit from the atmosphere, photos of the earth from outer space, etc. etc.

Just where exactly did that rocket and its occupants go, then? Did it make a quick right turn and land somewhere in the Pacific once it was out of view of TV cameras?

What about the return. Where did that item recovered in the middle of the ocean with astronauts inside come from? And on the date it was broadcast.

The capacity of CT's to disbelieve any and all evidence they don't wish to consider is truly amazing. Especially when they arm-wave without any specific citing of facts and numbers, while claiming to be upholding science.

National Geographic: 8 "Moon Landing Hoax Pictures" Busted

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"Let them all pass all their dirty remarks (One Love)
There is one question I'd really love to ask (One Heart)
Is there a place for the hopeless sinner
Who has hurt all mankind just to save his own?"

Bob Marley

AGAviator  posted on  2010-07-07   13:43:53 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#65. To: Original_Intent (#63)

The problem with using any "debunker" website is that they have an agenda other than the truth. They will NEVER publish or post anything which damages their debunking case. This is in contrast with most of the 911 Truth sites

Ohhhhkayyyyy. Tell me how many "911 Truth Sites" have put out the following;

Just for starters...

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"Let them all pass all their dirty remarks (One Love)
There is one question I'd really love to ask (One Heart)
Is there a place for the hopeless sinner
Who has hurt all mankind just to save his own?"

Bob Marley

AGAviator  posted on  2010-07-07   13:47:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#66. To: AGAviator (#65) (Edited)

Whenever they say the WTC collapsed from the fire they always ignore the fact both buldings had huge airplanes loaded with jet fuel fly into them at 500 miles an hour.

I thank God every day my mind is clear enough to not be a conspiracist.

St. Ausgustine on the State: "It was a criminal band that achieved legitimacy not by renouncing aggression, but rather by attaining impunity."

Turtle  posted on  2010-07-07   13:58:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#67. To: Turtle (#66)

I thank God every day my mind is clear enough to not be a conspiracist.

NO PLANE hit WTC 7 and yet it fell into its own footprint. Just think, on September 11, not one, not two, but three steel-framed skyscrapers all decided to just give up and fall down because of fire and none ever had before and none has since. It was the Magickal Jet Fuel™. I sure am glad they only made one batch of that. Another five or ten thousand gallons would have probably destroyed every building in America, maybe the world.

Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end.
Lord Acton

He (Gordon Duff) also implies that forcibly removing Obama, a Constitution-hating, on-the-down-low, crackhead Communist, is an attack on America, Mom, and apple pie. I swear these military people are worse than useless. Just look around at the condition of the country and tell me if they have fulfilled their oaths to protect the nation from all enemies foreign and domestic.
OsamaBinGoldstein posted on 2010-05-25 9:39:59 ET (2 images) Reply Trace

James Deffenbach  posted on  2010-07-07   14:03:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#68. To: AGAviator, Artisan (#62)

Rrrrrriiiiiiiggggghhhhhhhhtttttt..... And you just happen to be one of the privileged recipients of their communications.......

Good one!!!!!

I suppose you never used Google much, eh?

Senior Military, Intelligence, Law Enforcement, and Government Officials Question the 9/11 Commission Report


"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen

FormerLurker  posted on  2010-07-07   14:07:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#69. To: AGAviator (#65)

WTC7 - Pull means "pull with cables"...

LOL!!!

Yeah right, I'm sure they were positioning cranes over WTC7 right before it fell down...


"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen

FormerLurker  posted on  2010-07-07   14:08:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#70. To: AGAviator (#65) (Edited)

9/11 Debunked - No Free Fall

Oh, it took what, 1 or 2 seconds more for the top of the building to reach the ground than if it had fallen through thin air? So what were the bottom 70 or so floors made of, butter? Hell, it'd take longer to fall through butter than what it did to pulverize 70+ floors of UNDAMAGED concrete and steel.


"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen

FormerLurker  posted on  2010-07-07   14:10:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#71. To: Turtle, James Deffenbach (#67)

NO PLANE hit WTC 7 and yet it fell into its own footprint. Just think, on September 11, not one, not two, but three steel-framed skyscrapers all decided to just give up and fall down because of fire and none ever had before and none has since

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"Let them all pass all their dirty remarks (One Love)
There is one question I'd really love to ask (One Heart)
Is there a place for the hopeless sinner
Who has hurt all mankind just to save his own?"

Bob Marley

AGAviator  posted on  2010-07-07   14:10:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#72. To: FormerLurker (#69)

How many people have tried to con us with that lame-ass explanation of what they want us to believe Silverstein meant? Some have tried to claim he meant to "pull the firefighters" but that wouldn't have been his call and they had already been out for a good while before that anyway. People who believe the government's stupid theory will believe just about anything (except the truth).

Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end.
Lord Acton

He (Gordon Duff) also implies that forcibly removing Obama, a Constitution-hating, on-the-down-low, crackhead Communist, is an attack on America, Mom, and apple pie. I swear these military people are worse than useless. Just look around at the condition of the country and tell me if they have fulfilled their oaths to protect the nation from all enemies foreign and domestic.
OsamaBinGoldstein posted on 2010-05-25 9:39:59 ET (2 images) Reply Trace

James Deffenbach  posted on  2010-07-07   14:12:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#73. To: FormerLurker, AGAviator, all (#68)

Rrrrrriiiiiiiggggghhhhhhhhtttttt..... And you just happen to be one of the privileged recipients of their communications.......

Good one!!!!!

I suppose you never used Google much, eh?

Senior Military, Intelligence, Law Enforcement, and Government Officials Question the 9/11 Commission Report

Like most Kool-Aid Drinkers he is data averse. His mind is made up now don't confuse him with the facts.

I have reached the conclusion that there are really only two categories of 911 debunkers:

Adherents to the goobermunt (Ours, England's, and Israel's) and their paid shills. (A subset of which is private organizations who operate for the Banksters.)

The invincibly ignorant who have concluded, upon no good evidence, that it is impossible for it to have been a planned and intended event. It conflicts with their world view of Government Worship, and/or they have swallowed the PsyOps/PR hook, line, and sinker.

"One of the least understood strategies of the world revolution now moving rapidly toward its goal is the use of mind control as a major means of obtaining the consent of the people who will be subjects of the New World Order." K.M. Heaton, The National Educator

Original_Intent  posted on  2010-07-07   14:13:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#74. To: James Deffenbach, FormerLurker (#72)

How many people have tried to con us with that lame-ass explanation of what they want us to believe Silverstein meant? Some have tried to claim he meant to "pull the firefighters" but that wouldn't have been his call and they had already been out for a good while before that anyway. People who believe the government's stupid theory will believe just about anything (except the truth).

"There's a sucker born every minute, and a man to take him every five." ~ P.T. Barnum

"One of the least understood strategies of the world revolution now moving rapidly toward its goal is the use of mind control as a major means of obtaining the consent of the people who will be subjects of the New World Order." K.M. Heaton, The National Educator

Original_Intent  posted on  2010-07-07   14:15:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#75. To: AGAviator (#57)

Your image is missing the support columns, and gives the impression the WTC towers were "floating" the floors with no support at all.

Here are some images of one of the towers as it was being built...

Here's some info on the construction if you're interested.

SOME ARTICLES FROM ENGINEERING NEWS RECORD


"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen

FormerLurker  posted on  2010-07-07   14:18:47 ET  (3 images) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#76. To: James Deffenbach (#72)

How many people have tried to con us with that lame-ass explanation of what they want us to believe Silverstein meant?

"Pulling it with cables" is a new one on me, and certainly one of the most ludicrous and ridiculous explanations I've heard.


"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen

FormerLurker  posted on  2010-07-07   14:20:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#77. To: FormerLurker (#69)

WTC7 - Pull means "pull with cables"... LOL!!!

Yeah right, I'm sure they were positioning cranes over WTC7 right before it fell down...

Yeah right, another snot-nosed opening CT remark, true to form.

No, they were talking about ***pulling*** the firefighters back from the building so they would not die in its impending collapse, like the ones in the Twin Towers already had.

However it is the CT's who claim that ***pull*** means ***explode*** instead of "pull back" or "withdraw."

And within the building demolition industry, "pull" does not mean "explode," it means "pull down."

So we have a word "pull" in k00kspeak being completely separated from normal English syntax and diction.

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"Let them all pass all their dirty remarks (One Love)
There is one question I'd really love to ask (One Heart)
Is there a place for the hopeless sinner
Who has hurt all mankind just to save his own?"

Bob Marley

AGAviator  posted on  2010-07-07   14:21:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#78. To: FormerLurker (#76)

"Pulling it with cables" is a new one on me, and certainly one of the most ludicrous and ridiculous explanations

You're so easily amused. So tell me how "pull" means "pull with exlosives."

Do you know that explosives "push" things away, not "pull" them towards?

BWAHAHAHAHAA!!!!!

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"Let them all pass all their dirty remarks (One Love)
There is one question I'd really love to ask (One Heart)
Is there a place for the hopeless sinner
Who has hurt all mankind just to save his own?"

Bob Marley

AGAviator  posted on  2010-07-07   14:22:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#79. To: Original_Intent (#73)

Like most Kool-Aid Drinkers he is data averse. His mind is made up now don't confuse him with the facts.

I can't believe there are still people who think they know all about 9/11, yet don't even look at the basic facts, they just believe the government and the media explanations.

Apparently, the brainwashing is quite powerful.


"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen

FormerLurker  posted on  2010-07-07   14:23:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#80. To: Original_Intent (#73)

It conflicts with their world view of Government Worship, and/or they have swallowed the PsyOps/PR hook, line, and sinker.

Projection and Straw Man discourses are no substitutes for facts, logic, and proof.

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"Let them all pass all their dirty remarks (One Love)
There is one question I'd really love to ask (One Heart)
Is there a place for the hopeless sinner
Who has hurt all mankind just to save his own?"

Bob Marley

AGAviator  posted on  2010-07-07   14:24:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#81. To: AGAviator (#78)

You're so easily amused. So tell me how "pull" means "pull with exlosives."

Do you know that explosives "push" things away, not "pull" them towards?

BWAHAHAHAHAA!!!!!

I'm not saying it was or wasn't meant to imply "pull with explosives". I was simply saying "pulling it with cables" is quite insane, since it would have been impossible to do so.

Apparently, the "pull it" statement from Silverstein is a clever disinfo tactic meant to muddy the waters and lead people astray.

Whether he said it or not makes no difference, and doesn't change the events or how they occured.


"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen

FormerLurker  posted on  2010-07-07   14:28:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#82. To: FormerLurker (#75)

My diagram

Your photo

Other than direction, no substantial difference between the two. The WTC towers had a unique design with little or no lattice work between the core columns and the exterior tubes which carried a substantial amount of the weight in a unique tube design.

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"Let them all pass all their dirty remarks (One Love)
There is one question I'd really love to ask (One Heart)
Is there a place for the hopeless sinner
Who has hurt all mankind just to save his own?"

Bob Marley

AGAviator  posted on  2010-07-07   14:30:05 ET  (2 images) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#83. To: FormerLurker (#81)

I'm not saying it was or wasn't meant to imply "pull with explosives".

"Pull" and "explosives" are mutually exclusive to cogent English speakers.

Any and all assertions that Silverstein said "pull" as a substitute for "explode" are too idiotic to merit any response except ridicule.

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"Let them all pass all their dirty remarks (One Love)
There is one question I'd really love to ask (One Heart)
Is there a place for the hopeless sinner
Who has hurt all mankind just to save his own?"

Bob Marley

AGAviator  posted on  2010-07-07   14:32:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#84. To: AGAviator (#82)

Your diagram is missing the columns and implies the floors were somehow floating and had no support.


"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen

FormerLurker  posted on  2010-07-07   14:32:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#85. To: AGAviator (#83)

So do you find all of those military officials, intelligence officers, and scientists who question the official 9/11 legend are "KOOKS"?


"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen

FormerLurker  posted on  2010-07-07   14:34:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#86. To: AGAviator (#77)

Some of these "folks" shall calling you a "Psy-Op" momentarily. I hope you can take it.

"we ought to lay off the criticism" -- Pinguinite, circa 2010-05-26 22:17:22 ET

buckeroo  posted on  2010-07-07   14:34:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#87. To: AGAviator (#82)

One other thing your diagram is wrong about is the fact that it shows the core as a linear shape, where it was MUCH thicker at the bottom than at the top, and was in fact tapered from it's largest section at the bottom gradually upwards towards the top section of the tower.


"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen

FormerLurker  posted on  2010-07-07   14:36:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#88. To: AGAviator (#82)

BTW, why did you shrink the image I posted in your response? Was it to give the illusion that the bottom core of the building was in fact much smaller than it actually was?

The original image I posted;

The shrunken image YOU posted;

The actual bottom of the tower during construction;


"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen

FormerLurker  posted on  2010-07-07   14:42:45 ET  (3 images) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#89. To: FormerLurker (#84) (Edited)

Your diagram is missing the columns and implies the floors were somehow floating and had no support.

The Twin Tower floors were supported by trusses, which were suspended between the load bearing center core and the load bearing exterior walls, with little or no suporting columns in between.

Do some research from reputable sources. Then look at picture of entire one- acre floors with almost no barriers between the core of the building and its exterior walls.

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"Let them all pass all their dirty remarks (One Love)
There is one question I'd really love to ask (One Heart)
Is there a place for the hopeless sinner
Who has hurt all mankind just to save his own?"

Bob Marley

AGAviator  posted on  2010-07-07   14:45:46 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#90. To: AGAviator, FormerLurker (#83)

I'm not saying it was or wasn't meant to imply "pull with explosives".

"Pull" and "explosives" are mutually exclusive to cogent English speakers.

Any and all assertions that Silverstein said "pull" as a substitute for "explode" are too idiotic to merit any response except ridicule.

So, "pull the trigger" means to take the bullets out of the gun?

"One of the least understood strategies of the world revolution now moving rapidly toward its goal is the use of mind control as a major means of obtaining the consent of the people who will be subjects of the New World Order." K.M. Heaton, The National Educator

Original_Intent  posted on  2010-07-07   14:46:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#91. To: Original_Intent (#90)

So, "pull the trigger" means to take the bullets out of the gun?

When you "pull the trigger" does the ***trigger*** move towards you, or away from you?

Hmmmm. Once again, "pull" means "move towards me" and not "blow up" to a coherent English speaker.

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"Let them all pass all their dirty remarks (One Love)
There is one question I'd really love to ask (One Heart)
Is there a place for the hopeless sinner
Who has hurt all mankind just to save his own?"

Bob Marley

AGAviator  posted on  2010-07-07   14:50:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#92. To: AGAviator (#91)

Hmmmm. Once again, "pull" means "move towards me" and not "blow up" to a coherent English speaker.

You know how it is. Pull means push, lies mean truth, war means peace.

St. Ausgustine on the State: "It was a criminal band that achieved legitimacy not by renouncing aggression, but rather by attaining impunity."

Turtle  posted on  2010-07-07   14:52:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#93. To: AGAviator (#89)

So what? The core column disintegrated into dust, which should be virtually impossible. That, and the exterior walls ALSO fell apart as if they were made of matchsticks.

Those buildings were NOT some flimsy Lego structure, they withstood high winds for decades, AND one of them had a severe office fire years earlier which lasted for HOURS, yet had no issues with structural integrity.

The fuel from the airplanes was consummed in the first few minutes after impact, and MOST of it was expended OUTSIDE in huge balls of flame. THAT is stated in the NIST report, and/or the FEMA report.

So no, the buildings did not fall because the "steel got too hot", as most of the heat was wicked away by the rest of the building which acted like a huge heatsink.


"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen

FormerLurker  posted on  2010-07-07   14:58:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#94. To: FormerLurker (#88)

The actual bottom of the tower during construction;

The 3-level lattice works to the far left, beneath the crane, and the far right, mostly obscured, are not parts of the building.

They are exterior scaffolding.

There is additional exterior scaffolding, and crane framework, around the center core under construction.

When finished, the center core was smaller than the photo shows because the scaffolding and the crane framework was removed.

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"Let them all pass all their dirty remarks (One Love)
There is one question I'd really love to ask (One Heart)
Is there a place for the hopeless sinner
Who has hurt all mankind just to save his own?"

Bob Marley

AGAviator  posted on  2010-07-07   14:58:47 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  



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