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Title: Barack Obama: Shape Shifting Reptilian Overlord or Pure Human?
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Published: Jul 4, 2010
Author: russell huebsch
Post Date: 2010-07-04 14:41:52 by Turtle
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Views: 16518
Comments: 362

Is Barack Obama really a shape shifting reptilian humanoid from a far away galaxy bent on the enslavement of the human race? According to David Icke, who claims on his web site that most world leaders come from a line of reptilians originating in the Alpha Draconis, Barack Obama is most likely a blood drinking shape shifter bent on progressing the New World Order. Icke's reptilian theory makes the claim that reptilians plan to control humanity and other civilizations through fear and negative emotion, a food source for the reptilian. Icke believes the reptilians plan for world domination started to unravel with the September 11 attacks on New York and Obama's presidency will lead us into this "New World Order", but is this just mere babbling from a sick mind or does this theory have some legitimacy? Here are signs that the Obama reptilian conspiracy is true.

"Change we need": Has Obama told us all along that he is a changeling/shape shifting reptilian? Think about it, change always happens when a new president enters office, perhaps Obama's corporeal body is crying out to the world that a shape shifting reptilian alien has hijacked his avatar. "Change" might also be a code word for reptilian dictators across the globe that America has elected another shape shifter as president. Even Adolph Hitler claimed to bring change for the German people, but as we know all the only thing the world received from Hitler was millions of lost lives and the genocide of an entire race of people. Whatever this "change" really means it certainly does not bode well for the future of America and even worse for the human race.

The questionable birth certificate: Why would any presidential candidate try so desperately to hide a real birth certificate? Perhaps because reptilian overlords do not receive birth certificates, they congeal out of a pile of goo! The voting public would never vote for a space reptilian and if the plan for world domination ever leaked to the general there would be mass chaos, thus the Republican party could never reveal Obama's true ancestry and the reptilian conspiracy continues.


Poster Comment:

I always thought Obama was just half kaffir and half white trash race traitor. But perhaps he's a David Icke blood-drinking shape-shifting space reptile...

I, for one, welcome our new reptilian overloads. I'll point out to them all my enemies, so they can eat them.

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#1. To: Turtle (#0)

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Icke

Why does anyone believe anything he says? I mean, come on!

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PSUSA  posted on  2010-07-04   16:53:17 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: PSUSA (#1)

there are some funny as heck vids about the reptilians. turtle, meanwhile buys papa governments version of 9/11 hook line & sinker. so,...

Artisan  posted on  2010-07-04   17:38:18 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: Artisan (#3)

I dont hold that against him.

You have to admit, there are some wacky "theories" out there. They make us look stupid when they start talking about "blue beam" holograms, thermite/thermate (neither are explosives), UFOs, etc. Some are intentional disinfo and others are just plain nuts IMO. In alex jones' case, he's both nuts and a disinfo scumbag.

THe best way is to attack them at the weakest link, and IMO that is bldg. 7. The next weakest link is the pentagon. There are aalso plenty of professionals that agree with us on the towers demolition.

Here is a favorite and I never miss a chance in posting it. killtown.911review.org/pentalawn.html

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PSUSA  posted on  2010-07-04   19:26:40 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: PSUSA (#5)

thermite/thermate (neither are explosives)

You saw the structural steel beams in the WTC that were clearly cut (on an angle to facilitate collapse) as if by a gas cutting torch? That''s what the thermite/thermate was likely used for. They make special porcelain molds to hold the thermite in place as it blows through steel box beams like a hot knife through butter. (pix of box beams cut off clean at Ground Zero)

Remember the You Tube video of a can of thermite burning all the way through a car engine block and landing on the ground underneath? Surely you can understand the utility of exothermic cutting charges in a planned demo that was supposed to be the result of something other than a planned collapse.

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In the background is a tall beam that has been cut but did not fall. If that was done by breakers after the disaster it would have been pulled down by a crane to avoid injury or death to workers in the area.

HOUNDDAWG  posted on  2010-07-05   0:23:29 ET  (1 image) Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: HOUNDDAWG (#11) (Edited)

I disagree.

Cutting charges are shaped high explosive charges. They cut right thru steel with no problem. Why use thermite when cutting charges have been used for years?

Explosions were heard in the towers and reported on the news.

AFA the pics at the link go, were those cut just before the towers fell or during the cleanup?

In the background is a tall beam that has been cut but did not fall. If that was done by breakers after the disaster it would have been pulled down by a crane to avoid injury or death to workers in the area.

There was a lot of rubble that was a danger to workers. Getting rid of it was a process. WHere in the process was that pic taken?

Here is where relying on pics can be problematic, because there is no context.

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PSUSA  posted on  2010-07-05   8:11:21 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: PSUSA (#12)

It takes a great deal more of an explosive charge to blow a steel beam that it takes thermite/thermate to burn it.

Also, explosives used against hard targets have to be tamped, ("Hey, Chief, how come all of the main support columns have sand bags packed against them and wires running out?",) but exothermics work great with nothing but the form fitting (and low profile) porcelain molds to contain them. Also, thermite can be used to precisely cut a steel beam at an angle so it will slide off the "stump" when cut.

Had all of the the beams been blown there would have been no way to make the official fairie tale stick. (Some explosives were used but the witnesses conveniently died) Numerous seismographs would reveal the lies and even self assured know-it-alls couldn't explain them away.

HOUNDDAWG  posted on  2010-07-05   15:46:30 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: HOUNDDAWG (#13)

but exothermics work great with nothing but the form fitting (and low profile) porcelain molds to contain them.

I wasn't able to verify that. NOt that I'm calling you a liar, because I'm not. But with this topic specifically, I like to check things out for myself.

All I know about explosives I learned thru my own efforts. I never worked with them myself. And there is no way in hell I'd ever make them. Even though the info on how to do it is out there. You just need to be a chemist and have access to nitric acid for many of them, which is hard to come by. SOme even post their explosions on jewtube, the dumbasses.

All I am saying is that this thermite issue is not important, and AFAIK there is no evidence for it. It's a distraction. Cutting charges can do the job very well. They are used all the time.

Oh well. We agree on the basics. IMO that is enough. I dont think we'll ever get the whole story.

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PSUSA  posted on  2010-07-05   18:58:57 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#24. To: PSUSA (#14) (Edited)

Debunking 911: Noam Chomsky

"...I am not persuaded by the assumption that much documentation and other evidence has been uncovered. To determine that, we'd have to investigate the alleged evidence. Take, say, the physical evidence. There are ways to assess that: submit it to specialists -- of whom there are thousands -- who have the requisite background in civil-mechanical engineering, materials science, building construction, etc., for review and analysis; and one cannot gain the required knowledge by surfing the internet. In fact, that's been done, by the professional association of civil engineers. Or, take the course pursued by anyone who thinks they have made a genuine discovery: submit it to a serious journal [AGA: Not pay to publish, unquoted by other publications like Open Access] for peer review and publication. To my knowledge, there isn't a single submission."

"I think this reaches the heart of the matter. One of the major consequences of the 9/11 movement has been to draw enormous amounts of energy and effort away from activism directed to real and ongoing crimes of state, and their institutional background, crimes that are far more serious than blowing up the WTC would be, if there were any credibility to that thesis. That is, I suspect, why the 9/11 movement is treated far more tolerantly by centers of power than is the norm for serious critical and activist work. How do you personally set priorities? That's of course up to you. I've explained my priorities often, in print as well as elsewhere, but we have to make our own judgments."

"...I don't see any reason to accept the presuppositions. As for the consequences, in one of my first interviews after 9/11 I pointed out the obvious: every power system in the world was going to exploit it for its own interests: the Russians in Chechnya, China against the Uighurs, Israel in the occupied territories,... etc., and states would exploit the opportunity to control their own populations more fully through "prevention of terrorism acts" and the like. By the "who gains" argument, every power system in the world could be assigned responsibility for 9/11."

"I think the Bush administration would have had to be utterly insane to try anything like what is alleged, for their own narrow interests, and do not think that serious evidence has been provided to support claims about actions that would not only be outlandish, for their own interests, but that have no remote historical parallel. The effects, however, are all too clear, namely, what I just mentioned: diverting activism and commitment away from the very serious ongoing crimes of state."

AGAviator  posted on  2010-07-06   3:59:21 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#26. To: AGAviator, Original_Intent, FormerLurker, Artisan, *9-11* (#24)

Stick around long enough and you will eventually lose any 9/11 argument here.

wudidiz  posted on  2010-07-06   4:40:33 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#27. To: wudidiz (#26) (Edited)

Noam Chomsky is not all that bright.

ROTFLAMO!!!

Chomsky, a professor at MIT, has by himself more awards, publications, and references than all your 911 internet poobahs from any and every place in the world put together.

Listen. I'm going to make an attempt to be civil replying to such unfounded remarks, but if you insist on making such flagrantly false statements without a shred of evidence to support them, because of your preconceived agenda found only on the anonymous internet sites, your statements will be seen as nothing more than parroting groupthink brain aberrations.

Noam Chomsky Academic Awards

In the spring of 1969, he delivered the John Locke Lectures at Oxford University; in January 1970, the Bertrand Russell Memorial Lecture at University of Cambridge; in 1972, the Nehru Memorial Lecture in New Delhi; in 1977, the Huizinga Lecture in Leiden; in 1988 the Massey Lectures at the University of Toronto, titled "Necessary Illusions: Thought Control in Democratic Societies"; in 1997, The Davie Memorial Lecture on Academic Freedom in Cape Town,[97] and many others.[98]

Chomsky has received many honorary degrees from universities around the world, including from the following:

University of London University of Chicago Loyola University of Chicago Swarthmore College University of Delhi Bard College University of Massachusetts University of Pennsylvania Georgetown University Amherst College University of Cambridge University of Buenos Aires McGill University Universitat Rovira i Virgili Columbia University Villanova University University of Connecticut University of Maine Scuola Normale Superiore University of Western Ontario University of Toronto Harvard University Universidad de Chile University of Bologna Universidad de la Frontera University of Calcutta Universidad Nacional de Colombia Vrije Universiteit Brussel Santo Domingo Institute of Technology Uppsala University University of Athens University of Cyprus Central Connecticut State University National Autonomous University of Mexico (UNAM)

He is a member of the American Academy of Arts and Sciences, the National Academy of Sciences, and the American Philosophical Society. In addition, he is a member of other professional and learned societies in the United States and abroad, and is a recipient of the Distinguished Scientific Contribution Award of the American Psychological Association, the Kyoto Prize in Basic Sciences, the Helmholtz Medal, the Dorothy Eldridge Peacemaker Award, the 1999 Benjamin Franklin Medal in Computer and Cognitive Science, and others.[99] He is twice winner of The Orwell Award, granted by The National Council of Teachers of English for "Distinguished Contributions to Honesty and Clarity in Public Language" (in 1987 and 1989).[100]

He is a member of the Serbian Academy of Sciences and Arts in Department of Social Sciences.[101]

Chomsky is a member of the Faculty Advisory Board of MIT Harvard Research Journal.[102]

In 2005, Chomsky received an honorary fellowship from the Literary and Historical Society.[103]

In 2007, Chomsky received The Uppsala University (Sweden) Honorary Doctor's degree in commemoration of Carolus Linnaeus.[104]

In February 2008, he received the President's Medal from the Literary and Debating Society of the National University of Ireland, Galway.[105]

In 2010, Chomsky received the Erich Fromm Prize in Stuttgart, Germany.[106]

Chomsky has an ErdQs number of four.

Chomsky was voted the leading living public intellectual in The 2005 Global Intellectuals Poll conducted by the British magazine Prospect. He reacted, saying "I don't pay a lot of attention to polls". [107] In a list compiled by the magazine New Statesman in 2006, he was voted seventh in the list of "Heroes of our time".[108]

Actor Viggo Mortensen with avant-garde guitarist Buckethead dedicated their 2006 album, called Pandemoniumfromamerica to Chomsky.

On January 22, 2010, a special honorary concert for Chomsky was given at Kresge Auditorium at MIT.[109] [110] The concert, attended by Chomsky and dozens of his family and friends, featured music composed by Edward Manukyan and speeches by Chomsky's colleagues, including David Pesetsky of MIT and Gennaro Chierchia, head of the linguistics department at Harvard University.

Criticism Main article: Criticism of Noam Chomsky Much Chomsky criticism revolves around his political views. His status as an intellectual figure within the left wing of American politics has resulted in much criticism from the left and the right.

Bibliography Main article: Bibliography of Noam Chomsky Filmography
Manufacturing Consent: Noam Chomsky and the Media, Director: Mark Achbar and Peter Wintonick (1992)

Last Party 2000, Director: Rebecca Chaiklin and Donovan Leitch (2001)
Power and Terror: Noam Chomsky in Our Times, Director: John Junkerman (2002)
Distorted Morality—America's War On Terror?, Director: John Junkerman (2003)
Noam Chomsky: Rebel Without a Pause (TV), Director: Will Pascoe (2003)
The Corporation, Directors: Mark Achbar and Jennifer Abbott; Writer: Joel Bakan (2003)
Peace, Propaganda & the Promised Land, Directors: Sut Jhally and Bathsheba Ratzkoff (2004)
On Power, Dissent and Racism: A discussion with Noam Chomsky, Journalist: Nicolas Rossier; Producers: Eli Choukri, Baraka Productions (2004)
Lake of Fire, Director: Tony Kaye (2006)
American Feud: A History of Conservatives and Liberals, Director: Richard Hall (2008)
In the Time We've Got, Director: Christopher Ives (2008)
Chomsky & Cie Director: Olivier Azam (out in 2008)
An Inconvenient Tax, Director: Christopher P. Marshall (out in 2009)
The Money Fix, Director: Alan Rosenblith (2009)
Pax Americana and the Weaponization of Space, Director: Denis Delestrac (2010)

Stick around long enough and you will eventually lose any 9/11 argument here.

BWAHAHAHAHA!!!!!

There's so much debunking of these CT's on just one website, Debunking 911.com, I could spend entire days just cutting, pasting and whacking every CT argument that's ever been posted. From there directly. With quotes from successful people, arguments, sources, exposes of lies and half-truths published on CT sites that distort original messages, etc.

However, as I've posted repeatedly through the years, and Chomsky notes too, the real damage done by the 911 Twoofers is to move opposition from being concerned with substantive issues to fringe circles, where the PTB prefer it to be so they can point at the collective lack of practicality and intelligence of those saying they want change.

So I'm not going to get too consumed with rebutting every CT because people with common sense know they're not right to begin with and it's a waste of time and energy to put a lot of effort into time-traveling into that Alice-in- Wonderland rabbit hole.

But don't try to push me too much on the issue or you'll get rebuttals you can't refute in spades.

AGAviator  posted on  2010-07-06   5:30:17 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#29. To: AGAviator (#27)

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Eric Stratton  posted on  2010-07-06   8:26:05 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#31. To: Eric Stratton (#29) (Edited)

Oh boy, a long laundry list of establishment blow-job credentials.

OK ko00khack, how're your "blow job credentials" for "Professor" Steven Jones, who isn't even acknowledged by his former BYU Physics Department and which relieved him of teaching and put him out to pasture, and can't even show any net yield of useful free energy in any of his claimed "cold fusion" experiments.

Or your "blow job credentials" for jerkwad Niels Harritt, who submitted samples of paint dust 6 years after the Twin Towers collapsed, and waving a bag of the stuff around, claiming it was extremely explosive and flammable.

What the eff was the idiot doing bringing a supposedly explosive and pyrotechnically active substance to one press conference, ignoring all safety precautions that would have been needed, then failing to produce any kind of demonstration showing the goddamn stuff could even be ignited, much less made to explode.

Hmmmm???

So keep your one-liner dismissals of people who have intelligence like Chomsky, to your k00ksites. Because everybody else sees them as cheap shot mental masturbation by a zombie group of losers.

AGAviator  posted on  2010-07-06   8:57:45 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#34. To: AGAviator (#31)

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Eric Stratton  posted on  2010-07-06   12:17:15 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#37. To: Eric Stratton (#34)

I suppose that you're also one of those that still thinks that a "Harvard education" or an "Ivy League education" means that that person is intelligent too.

Well, there certainly is a lot of competition to get into those institutions, and there is certainly more than a proportional share of publications, patents, and prominent public figures coming out of them.

And FYI the person we were discussing, Noam Chomsky, is a professor at Massachusetts Institute of Technology, which is neither "Harvard" or "Ivy League." It is one of America's premier institutes for science, second only to Cal Tech which has produced so many usesful and workable patents and inventions used in programs like the flight to the moon. That actually effing do what they announce they will do before the rockets take off. And Chomsky is well respected intellectually by his colleagues at MIT, even though he does receive some criticism for his political perspective.

Unlike a BYU CT fruitcake who can't even make a physical device that yields more energy than it consumes after claiming he's discovered cold fusion, or even have his department allow him continue teaching.

Your denigration of successful people is really the root of all CT postulating. You have nothing, you've proved nothing even after 10 years, certain people have exhaustively debunked you after wading through your distortions and half truths word by word, so you simply dismiss anyone who would challenge you as being part of the problem. That's what being a "loser" is in plain English.

AGAviator  posted on  2010-07-06   12:35:27 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#61. To: AGAviator (#37)

the flight to the moon

so you believe that one too, eh? :-) your wordy defense of the so-called establishment is not going to convince anyone. because people closer to inelligence agencies & the halls of government than you'd dream of being have come out & said it was an inside job. so your list of 'credentialed experts' can work both ways.Also, your use of God's name in vain in an internet squabble reveals much that you are lacking. you wrote 'You have nothing'; but more appropriate is the Scripture 'Without Me, you can do nothing' (John 15:5)

Artisan  posted on  2010-07-06   20:56:50 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#62. To: Artisan (#61) (Edited)

the flight to the moon so you believe that one too, eh? :-)...because people closer to inelligence agencies & the halls of government than you'd dream of being have come out & said it was an inside job.

Rrrrrriiiiiiiggggghhhhhhhhtttttt..... And you just happen to be one of the privileged recipients of their communications.......

Good one!!!!!

AGAviator  posted on  2010-07-06   22:51:53 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#63. To: AGAviator, Artisan, wudidiz, all (#62)

the flight to the moon so you believe that one too, eh? :-)...because people closer to inelligence agencies & the halls of government than you'd dream of being have come out & said it was an inside job.

Rrrrrriiiiiiiggggghhhhhhhhtttttt..... And you just happen to be one of the privileged recipients of their communications.......

Good one!!!!!

Earth to AGGravator!

Earth to AGGravator!

Some of them are in the public record.

I repeat: Some of them are in the public record.

For example the Head of West German Intelligence.

The problem with using any "debunker" website is that they have an agenda other than the truth. They will NEVER publish or post anything which damages their debunking case. This is in contrast with most of the 911 Truth sites (the legitimate ones not government PsyOp sites) who will publish and/or post anything which is relevant. That also applies to any flavor of so-called "skeptic" and/or debunker websites. Invariably you can count on them to twist and misrepresent facts, and the so-called debunkers have repeatedly been proven wrong, if not outright frauds using false information such as Popular Mechanics. Another favorite is "Snopes" which was outed as being just two people, no research capabilities beyond standard search techniques, and wrong. Because a website pushes the "Official Truth™" does not mean it is THE truth. If you hadn't noticed the government frequently lies and has a large disinformation presence on the 'net.

Original_Intent  posted on  2010-07-07   13:25:16 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#65. To: Original_Intent (#63)

The problem with using any "debunker" website is that they have an agenda other than the truth. They will NEVER publish or post anything which damages their debunking case. This is in contrast with most of the 911 Truth sites

Ohhhhkayyyyy. Tell me how many "911 Truth Sites" have put out the following;

Just for starters...

AGAviator  posted on  2010-07-07   13:47:44 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#69. To: AGAviator (#65)

WTC7 - Pull means "pull with cables"...

LOL!!!

Yeah right, I'm sure they were positioning cranes over WTC7 right before it fell down...

FormerLurker  posted on  2010-07-07   14:08:14 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#72. To: FormerLurker (#69)

How many people have tried to con us with that lame-ass explanation of what they want us to believe Silverstein meant? Some have tried to claim he meant to "pull the firefighters" but that wouldn't have been his call and they had already been out for a good while before that anyway. People who believe the government's stupid theory will believe just about anything (except the truth).

James Deffenbach  posted on  2010-07-07   14:12:04 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#76. To: James Deffenbach (#72)

How many people have tried to con us with that lame-ass explanation of what they want us to believe Silverstein meant?

"Pulling it with cables" is a new one on me, and certainly one of the most ludicrous and ridiculous explanations I've heard.

FormerLurker  posted on  2010-07-07   14:20:41 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#78. To: FormerLurker (#76)

"Pulling it with cables" is a new one on me, and certainly one of the most ludicrous and ridiculous explanations

You're so easily amused. So tell me how "pull" means "pull with exlosives."

Do you know that explosives "push" things away, not "pull" them towards?

BWAHAHAHAHAA!!!!!

AGAviator  posted on  2010-07-07   14:22:55 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#81. To: AGAviator (#78)

You're so easily amused. So tell me how "pull" means "pull with exlosives."

Do you know that explosives "push" things away, not "pull" them towards?

BWAHAHAHAHAA!!!!!

I'm not saying it was or wasn't meant to imply "pull with explosives". I was simply saying "pulling it with cables" is quite insane, since it would have been impossible to do so.

Apparently, the "pull it" statement from Silverstein is a clever disinfo tactic meant to muddy the waters and lead people astray.

Whether he said it or not makes no difference, and doesn't change the events or how they occured.

FormerLurker  posted on  2010-07-07   14:28:34 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#83. To: FormerLurker (#81)

I'm not saying it was or wasn't meant to imply "pull with explosives".

"Pull" and "explosives" are mutually exclusive to cogent English speakers.

Any and all assertions that Silverstein said "pull" as a substitute for "explode" are too idiotic to merit any response except ridicule.

AGAviator  posted on  2010-07-07   14:32:19 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#96. To: AGAviator (#83)

Metaphors must be new to your planet.

TommyTheMadArtist  posted on  2010-07-07   15:02:56 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#99. To: TommyTheMadArtist (#96)

Metaphors must be new to your planet.

Metaphors compare similar items. They do not conflate contradictory and opposite things with each other.

But thanks for playing.

AGAviator  posted on  2010-07-07   15:06:49 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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#101. To: AGAviator (#99)

But thanks for playing.

My turn

Are you saying that the government's account of 911 is the truth?

Flintlock  posted on  2010-07-07 15:10:49 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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