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Title: Barack Obama: Shape Shifting Reptilian Overlord or Pure Human?
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Published: Jul 4, 2010
Author: russell huebsch
Post Date: 2010-07-04 14:41:52 by Turtle
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Views: 17080
Comments: 362

Is Barack Obama really a shape shifting reptilian humanoid from a far away galaxy bent on the enslavement of the human race? According to David Icke, who claims on his web site that most world leaders come from a line of reptilians originating in the Alpha Draconis, Barack Obama is most likely a blood drinking shape shifter bent on progressing the New World Order. Icke's reptilian theory makes the claim that reptilians plan to control humanity and other civilizations through fear and negative emotion, a food source for the reptilian. Icke believes the reptilians plan for world domination started to unravel with the September 11 attacks on New York and Obama's presidency will lead us into this "New World Order", but is this just mere babbling from a sick mind or does this theory have some legitimacy? Here are signs that the Obama reptilian conspiracy is true.

"Change we need": Has Obama told us all along that he is a changeling/shape shifting reptilian? Think about it, change always happens when a new president enters office, perhaps Obama's corporeal body is crying out to the world that a shape shifting reptilian alien has hijacked his avatar. "Change" might also be a code word for reptilian dictators across the globe that America has elected another shape shifter as president. Even Adolph Hitler claimed to bring change for the German people, but as we know all the only thing the world received from Hitler was millions of lost lives and the genocide of an entire race of people. Whatever this "change" really means it certainly does not bode well for the future of America and even worse for the human race.

The questionable birth certificate: Why would any presidential candidate try so desperately to hide a real birth certificate? Perhaps because reptilian overlords do not receive birth certificates, they congeal out of a pile of goo! The voting public would never vote for a space reptilian and if the plan for world domination ever leaked to the general there would be mass chaos, thus the Republican party could never reveal Obama's true ancestry and the reptilian conspiracy continues.


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I always thought Obama was just half kaffir and half white trash race traitor. But perhaps he's a David Icke blood-drinking shape-shifting space reptile...

I, for one, welcome our new reptilian overloads. I'll point out to them all my enemies, so they can eat them.

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#195. To: wudidiz (#154)

Jonathan Swift had their number for sure.

Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end.
Lord Acton

He (Gordon Duff) also implies that forcibly removing Obama, a Constitution-hating, on-the-down-low, crackhead Communist, is an attack on America, Mom, and apple pie. I swear these military people are worse than useless. Just look around at the condition of the country and tell me if they have fulfilled their oaths to protect the nation from all enemies foreign and domestic.
OsamaBinGoldstein posted on 2010-05-25 9:39:59 ET (2 images) Reply Trace

James Deffenbach  posted on  2010-07-07   19:11:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#196. To: James Deffenbach (#194)

9. Play Dumb.

I don't think Aggravator is playing.

Cold, very cold. Just what I need while I set here sweating and drinking Lemonade.

"One of the least understood strategies of the world revolution now moving rapidly toward its goal is the use of mind control as a major means of obtaining the consent of the people who will be subjects of the New World Order." K.M. Heaton, The National Educator

Original_Intent  posted on  2010-07-07   19:15:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#197. To: Original_Intent (#196)

Cold, very cold. Just what I need while I set here sweating and drinking Lemonade.

I had to put Aggravator on my clown filter. It made me feel like this

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trying to read his drivel and agitprop.

Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end.
Lord Acton

He (Gordon Duff) also implies that forcibly removing Obama, a Constitution-hating, on-the-down-low, crackhead Communist, is an attack on America, Mom, and apple pie. I swear these military people are worse than useless. Just look around at the condition of the country and tell me if they have fulfilled their oaths to protect the nation from all enemies foreign and domestic.
OsamaBinGoldstein posted on 2010-05-25 9:39:59 ET (2 images) Reply Trace

James Deffenbach  posted on  2010-07-07   19:45:58 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#198. To: James Deffenbach (#197)

LOL! The good humor man huh?

"One of the least understood strategies of the world revolution now moving rapidly toward its goal is the use of mind control as a major means of obtaining the consent of the people who will be subjects of the New World Order." K.M. Heaton, The National Educator

Original_Intent  posted on  2010-07-07   20:20:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#199. To: Original_Intent (#198)

Yeah, something like that.

Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end.
Lord Acton

He (Gordon Duff) also implies that forcibly removing Obama, a Constitution-hating, on-the-down-low, crackhead Communist, is an attack on America, Mom, and apple pie. I swear these military people are worse than useless. Just look around at the condition of the country and tell me if they have fulfilled their oaths to protect the nation from all enemies foreign and domestic.
OsamaBinGoldstein posted on 2010-05-25 9:39:59 ET (2 images) Reply Trace

James Deffenbach  posted on  2010-07-07   20:27:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#200. To: James Deffenbach (#199)

TWO HUNDRED!

Cheerful.

"One of the least understood strategies of the world revolution now moving rapidly toward its goal is the use of mind control as a major means of obtaining the consent of the people who will be subjects of the New World Order." K.M. Heaton, The National Educator

Original_Intent  posted on  2010-07-07   20:38:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#201. To: AGAviator (#119)

Cite specific reports, dealing with specific subjects,blah, blah, blah

OK, So you DO believe and promote the government version of 911.

You're a paid gov shill, I can smell it all over you.

WWGPD? - (What Would General Pinochet Do?)

Flintlock  posted on  2010-07-07   22:58:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#202. To: AGAviator, wudidiz (#191)

The standard CT last stand response. Anybody who doesn't drink the CT Kool-Aid is a big gubmint sellout.

That's all for today, folks.

dang! ag you sure do sound like ewecon, a graduate of the ewecon school of debate even.


computer counted ballots are ballots that have been counted in secret, and with all probability not the way one voted.

IRTorqued  posted on  2010-07-07   23:27:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#203. To: James Deffenbach, Original_Intent (#197)

had to put Aggravator on my clown filter. It made me feel like this

What else can a brainless pussilanimous one-line imbecile do?

Here's the Gallagher nanothermite "consolation prize" on your way out, mewling loser.

AGAviator  posted on  2010-07-08   0:23:38 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#204. To: FormerLurker (#192) (Edited)

Neither you nor I can claim the above cut was made by a worker with a torch, or thermite

I've used both oxygen cutting torches and themite.

You've used neither.

Burning thermite is an amorphous blob that does not and cannot make straight vertical cuts, period.

If you had ever been within 10 yards of thermite for even 5 seconds you would know that beyond any doubt.

The fact that you choose to quote some people so dumb as to claim it does make straight cuts sideways and vertically, but who have never been near the stuff personally, shows a mindset so steeped in groupthink it is willing to disregard direct evidence in favor of preconceived theories.

Thermite Burning

In the above photo, show me the pretty straight lines burning thermite makes.

AGAviator  posted on  2010-07-08   0:32:41 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#205. To: AGAviator (#203)

U R A

WWGPD? - (What Would General Pinochet Do?)

Flintlock  posted on  2010-07-08   0:35:20 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#206. To: AGAviator, James Deffenbach, FormerLurker, all (#203)

When all fails, when you've long since lost the debate, why emulate your heeeeero eweKon and resort to braindead ridicule.

Of course it proves nothing but it is good PsyOps.

"One of the least understood strategies of the world revolution now moving rapidly toward its goal is the use of mind control as a major means of obtaining the consent of the people who will be subjects of the New World Order." K.M. Heaton, The National Educator

Original_Intent  posted on  2010-07-08   0:37:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#207. To: AGAviator, all, *9-11* (#204)

What do you make of this picture?


“It has been said, 'time heals all wounds.' I do not agree. The wounds remain. In time, the mind, protecting its sanity, covers them with scar tissue and the pain lessens, but it is never gone.” ~ Rose F. Kennedy

wudidiz  posted on  2010-07-08   0:52:02 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#208. To: AGAviator (#204)

I've used both oxygen cutting torches and themite.

To do what, light your government issue crack pipe?

WWGPD? - (What Would General Pinochet Do?)

Flintlock  posted on  2010-07-08   0:59:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#209. To: Original_Intent (#206) (Edited)

When all fails, when you've long since lost the debate,

Lost the debate?

To idiots who've never been within 10 yards of either a cutting torch or thermite?

Who claim that burning thermite, which produces melted liquid iron glowing and flowing at 2500 Degreees, can somehow make magic straight vertical cuts which are actually the product of cutting torches?

BWAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!

And who claim that none of this ever even happened?

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So where did that rocket eventually end up, moonshiner?

Did it take a trip to Mexico while the media were concocting their fake TV shows? Or go to Jamaica to sample the ganja?

ROTFLAMO.

AGAviator  posted on  2010-07-08   1:07:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#210. To: Flintlock (#208)

To do what, light your government issue crack pipe?

For you that would be a step forward. It would get your head out of your own crack.

AGAviator  posted on  2010-07-08   1:08:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#211. To: AGAviator (#210)

It would get your head out of your own crack.

While you have your head up the government's crack.

WWGPD? - (What Would General Pinochet Do?)

Flintlock  posted on  2010-07-08   1:30:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#212. To: Original_Intent (#206) (Edited)

When all fails, when you've long since lost the debate
Real-World Tests Cut Through Steel, Shatter Thermite "Evidence"

by Enrico Manieri - Henry62

To understand the situation more clearly, I acquired photographs taken by Joel Meyerowitz, the only professional photographer allowed at Ground Zero.

I have verified that in Meyerowitz's panoramic views, taken very shortly after the collapses from many locations at Ground Zero, there are absolutely no columns which bear the markings of straight or diagonal thermal cuts, contrary to the claims of the supporters of alternative theories.

It is quite evident that the cuts were made at a later time, during debris demolition and removal. This can be deduced also by looking at the type of cut that characterizes the columns and beams that were loaded onto trucksfor removal and storage and is also exhibited by the debris stored in the well-known Hangar 17 of the Kennedy Airport in New York.

Scenes such as the one shown below were quite normal at Ground Zero:

Cutting torch

Another cutting torch.

Close up of aftermath of cutting torch work

Gawd, what an argumentative and stupid fuckwit you are to keep repeating this CT babble for the last 8 years. Then proclaim yourself the winner of a debate about thermite without ever having been near the stuff in your entire life!

AGAviator  posted on  2010-07-08   1:31:58 ET  (3 images) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#213. To: Flintlock (#211) (Edited)

While you have your head up the government's crack

Tell me how burning thermite - which produces molten burning iron flowing freely - makes straight up and down vertical or angled cuts, one liner crackboy.

AGAviator  posted on  2010-07-08   1:35:03 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#214. To: AGAviator, all, *9-11* (#213)

It really doesn't matter if thermite was used or not. It's obvious that controlled demolition of some sort was used to destroy the towers. Especially building 7.

What do you think of this picture?

Or this one?


“It has been said, 'time heals all wounds.' I do not agree. The wounds remain. In time, the mind, protecting its sanity, covers them with scar tissue and the pain lessens, but it is never gone.” ~ Rose F. Kennedy

wudidiz  posted on  2010-07-08   1:40:34 ET  (2 images) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#215. To: wudidiz (#214)

It really doesn't matter if thermite was used or not

Only to you, after that line shows it leads nowhere.

What do you think of this picture?

I think this one is a lot better because it tells a lot more.

AGAviator  posted on  2010-07-08   1:50:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#216. To: AGAviator (#215)

What do you think would cause these columns to disintegrate like this?

What sort of force would create this?


“It has been said, 'time heals all wounds.' I do not agree. The wounds remain. In time, the mind, protecting its sanity, covers them with scar tissue and the pain lessens, but it is never gone.” ~ Rose F. Kennedy

wudidiz  posted on  2010-07-08   2:06:49 ET  (2 images) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#217. To: FormerLurker (#188)

And transfers of enregy from moving ojects to stationary objects make the energy go to the target, not the source

So if I throw an egg at a brick wall, the wall is going to suffer more than the egg, eh?

So your "egg yoke airplanes" didn't penetrate your "brick wall" building exteriors or damage anything inside.

They just scrambled themselves, then fell harmlessly straight down to the streets ,with the buildings none the worse for the encounters, eh?

AGAviator  posted on  2010-07-08   2:11:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#218. To: wudidiz (#216)

What do you think would cause these columns to disintegrate like this?

Due to unshown events prior to the photos, the columns are already on the verge of breaking apart in the shown pictures.

They're on the verge of breaking apart because they were violently separated from other building materials that were attached to them and seriously damaged to a point where they are ready to fall apart.

With additional shaking and movement, the columns separate into pieces on their way to the ground.

What sort of force would create this?

Gravity exerting its force on 40+ floors accelerating and falling on top of each other.

AGAviator  posted on  2010-07-08   2:20:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#219. To: AGAviator (#218)

What do you think would cause these columns to disintegrate like this?

Due to unshown events prior to the photos, the columns are already on the verge of breaking apart in the shown pictures.

They're on the verge of breaking apart because they were violently separated from other building materials that were attached to them and seriously damaged to a point where they are ready to fall apart.

With additional shaking and movement, the columns separate into pieces on their way to the ground.

What sort of force would create this?

Gravity exerting its force on 40+ floors accelerating and falling on top of each other.

They're steel columns. They disintegrated. Why?

You actually think gravity will melt concrete and steel together like that?


“It has been said, 'time heals all wounds.' I do not agree. The wounds remain. In time, the mind, protecting its sanity, covers them with scar tissue and the pain lessens, but it is never gone.” ~ Rose F. Kennedy

wudidiz  posted on  2010-07-08   2:37:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#220. To: wudidiz (#219)

They're steel columns. They disintegrated. Why?

For about 8 hours, they were subject to (1) Being violently torn away from other building materials they were attached to, subjected to tensions, torsions, and twists in the process, (2) Being hit by heavy other steel pieces falling at significant speeds from other buildings, (3) Depending on location, being subject to uneven heating from out of control fires, continuously fed by a large self-contained fuel system, and other unknown factors.

You actually think gravity will melt concrete and steel together like that?

I see things that have been crushed under many tons of pressure, not melted. However now that you mention it, there were smouldering underground fires and hot spots lasting for weeks afterwards of the collapses. Those are effects of the collapses, not causes.

AGAviator  posted on  2010-07-08   2:56:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#221. To: AGAviator, wudidiz, Original_Intent, ALL (#220)

Wow, you are here 24/7 aren't you. I wonder why that is...


"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen

FormerLurker  posted on  2010-07-08   3:02:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#222. To: AGAviator (#220)

They're steel columns. They disintegrated. Why?

For about 8 hours, they were subject to (1) Being violently torn away from other building materials they were attached to, subjected to tensions, torsions, and twists in the process, (2) Being hit by heavy other steel pieces falling at significant speeds from other buildings, (3) Depending on location, being subject to uneven heating from out of control fires, continuously fed by a large self-contained fuel system, and other unknown factors.

None of those things you mentioned would cause steel columns to disintegrate.

You actually think gravity will melt concrete and steel together like that?

I see things that have been crushed under many tons of pressure, not melted. However now that you mention it, there were smouldering underground fires and hot spots lasting for weeks afterwards of the collapses. Those are effects of the collapses, not causes.

It looks melted, not crushed.

How on earth could the buildings collapsing cause "underground fires and hot spots" for weeks?


“It has been said, 'time heals all wounds.' I do not agree. The wounds remain. In time, the mind, protecting its sanity, covers them with scar tissue and the pain lessens, but it is never gone.” ~ Rose F. Kennedy

wudidiz  posted on  2010-07-08   3:11:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#223. To: AGAviator (#213)

Tell me how burning thermite - which produces molten burning iron flowing freely - makes straight up and down vertical or angled cuts, one liner crackboy.

You useless lying gov stooge, wipe that Barney Frank jiz off your face, it's gotten in your eyes.

Show me ONE post I've made claiming like you to be an "expert" in explosives, you can't .

I am an expert in spotting paid gov stooges, and YOU are as stoogy as they get.

Now pack that thermite up your ass, it might be the only way you'll ever get the Gerbils out.

WWGPD? - (What Would General Pinochet Do?)

Flintlock  posted on  2010-07-08   8:58:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#224. To: wudidiz (#222) (Edited)

None of those things you mentioned would cause steel columns to disintegrate.

If your photos are accurate, they did disintegrate without anything working on them as the pictures were taken. There's no evidence of any external forces, so the only possible conculusion is they were already in condition to disintegrate. This would have to be from whatever happened to them previously.

The factors from the building collapse are known. The factors alleging extraneous causes are speculative.

It looks melted, not crushed.

Melted items don't show clearly defined edges and distinct colors of clearly defined pieces. Something that's melted is a big blob with only a few colors.

How on earth could the buildings collapsing cause "underground fires and hot spots" for weeks?

The buildings were on fire when they collapsed. The collapses of 47 stories buried burning and heated material in piles extending several stories underground.

After the collapses the firemen continued spraying the debris pile with water. However putting water onto iron above 400 Degrees Centigrade produces an exothermic reaction which releases hydrogen which continues to fuel the fires. This fact was known as far back as the 1800's.

Molten Steel

Oxidation of iron by air is not the only EXOTHERMIC reaction of iron (= structural steel which is about 98 % Fe, 1 % Mn, 0.2 % C, 0.2 % Si.....). There is at least one additional reaction of iron with the capability of keeping the rubble pile hot and cooking!

The reaction between IRON AND STEAM is also very EXOTHERMIC and fast at temperatures above 400 deg C. This reaction produces Fe3O4 AND HYDROGEN. It is the classic example of a REVERSIBLE REACTION studied in Chemistry labs at high school. But believe it or not, back at the turn of the century, the reaction of iron and steam was used as an industrial process for the manufacture of hydrogen.

I think iron and steam could have reacted in this way (at least for a while) and generated a lot of heat. What is more, the hydrogen released would have been converted back to water by reaction with oxygen, thereby generating even more heat. In this case spraying water on the rubble pile was like adding fuel to a fire!

Now add in gypsum reactions with H2 and CO and we have a great source of SO2 and/or H2S to sulfide the steel!

Perhaps the endless spraying of water on the rubble pile was not such a good idea!

In the usual lab experiment on the reversible reaction of iron and "steam", nitrogen (or some inert gas) is bubbled through water to create a gas stream saturated with water vapor at room temperature. This gas is then allowed to flow into a glass tube about 1 meter long containing iron in an inert boat at its center. This assembly is heated in a tube furnace to some desired temperature, say 500 deg C. The hydrogen/ nitrogen gas mixture is collected at the outlet of the tube furnace.

In the industrial process the feed gas might also be "water gas" which is a mixture of CO and water vapor. The outlet gas contains mostly H2 and CO2.

I am sure there was plenty of water vapor AND oxygen in the void spaces in the rubble pile. This is the "steam" I am referring to.

Please remember that the recovered pieces of structural steel were heavily OXIDIZED as well as sulfided. The most important oxidizing agents available in the rubble pile were obviously O2 and H2O.

The rubble pile was not only inhomogeneous with regard to its composition, it was inhomogeneous with regard to its temperature. This was due to localized chemical reactions. Such reactions were capable of generating high temperatures in these localized hot spots.

The demolitionists much beloved thermite is a good example, BUT NOT THE ONLY EXAMPLE. AND THERE IS ABSOLUTELY NO PROOF WHATSOEVER THAT THERMITE, THERMATE, SOL-GEL NANO-THERMITE WAS EVER PRESENT AT THE WTC SITE!!!!!!

It is irrelevant whether or not the steam was wet or dry, that is a chemical engineering notion only of interest in a closed and controlled system, usually under high-pressure, such as a steam generator in a power station.

Water vapor was present in the rubble pile and water vapor reacts with iron releasing HYDROGEN.

ITS CALLED A CORROSION REACTION:

METAL + WATER = METAL OXIDE + HYDROGEN

WHEN IT HAPPENED AT THREE MILE ISLAND IT CREATED A HYDROGEN BUBBLE

AGAviator  posted on  2010-07-08   11:18:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#225. To: Flintlock (#223)

You useless lying gov stooge, wipe that Barney Frank jiz off your face, it's gotten in your eyes.

Wassa matter, boytoy, your circle jerks getting bored with ewe and ewe trying to come on to someone new?

AGAviator  posted on  2010-07-08   11:20:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#226. To: FormerLurker (#221) (Edited)

Wow, you are here 24/7 aren't you. I wonder why that is...

I hate liars, groupthink k00ks, and mobs.

I stopped posting on 07/07 at 18:22 and resumed posting on 07/08 at 0:23

You stopped posting on 07/07 at 21:19 and resumed posting on 07/08 at 3:02.

When I started this little discourse, I clearly saw where it was going to go. It never fails that when it gets right down to it, the k00ks feel more comfortable discussing their wacked out theories and eventually trashing and spewing obscenities at anyone who disputes them, than they are looking at the real issues which underly US policies.

Trying to give you all some alternate routes of discourse, I clearly stated (1) There is a USreal connection, however it takes a twisted path through Washington, Saudi Arabia, Pakistan, and OBL Afghan training camps, and (2) Noam Chomsky, one of the premier intellectuals of the 20th Century, stated that elaborate CT theories take discourse about post 911 events into areas not especially useful for changing policies and actions.

The groupthink mob response of course was the usual all or nothing diatribes about their unsupported theories, and the trashing of Chomsky and similarly prominent professors as an intellectual lightweight. And then the attacks on me. Not that I care.

Meanwhile, lionizing k00k professors Steven Jones - not even supported by his own University, and whose only "peer reviewed publication" was from an $800 hole in the wall in Abu Dubhai.

And Niels Harritt, who alleges nanothermite was used at the WTC centers, but says

(1) Go talk to the USG about what it is, he can't say,
(2) Alleges his mystery substance is both an explosive and an accelerant at the same time - a truly idiotic claim,
(3) Doesn't know whether there were 10 or 100 tons of it,
(4) Can't specify the methods and means by which it was detonated, and
(5) Can't explain why so many (unknown) tons of this high tech so-called cutting edge stuff failed to explode and was just lying around the sites waiting to be picked up by the truckload - without any safety precautions needed by the cleanup workers I might add.
So you all would rather do your groupthink on your mental island, fine. Just don't expect anyone to rescue you.

As far as your fairy tales no Arabs were on the crashed planes.

Wrong.

AGAviator  posted on  2010-07-08   11:47:58 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#227. To: AGAviator (#226)

There is a USreal connection, however it takes a twisted path through Washington, Saudi Arabia, Pakistan, and OBL Afghan training camps

Hallucinations about remote-controlled airplanes and explosives in the WTC just dirvert people from real problems, however, I strongly suspect the Mossad knew the attacks were going to happen and didn't warn the U.S. government. They were tracking the plotters in the U.S.

St. Ausgustine on the State: "It was a criminal band that achieved legitimacy not by renouncing aggression, but rather by attaining impunity."

Turtle  posted on  2010-07-08   11:57:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#228. To: AGAviator (#226)

It never fails that when it gets right down to it, the k00ks feel more comfortable discussing their wacked out theories and eventually trashing and spewing obscenities at anyone who disputes them, than they are looking at the real issues which underly US policies.

Have you been repeatedly called a "psy-op" yet? Until then, you can't join my league up the food-chain; this is when they start pursuing the selective "ignore filter" feature.

"we ought to lay off the criticism" -- Pinguinite, circa 2010-05-26 22:17:22 ET

buckeroo  posted on  2010-07-08   12:16:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#229. To: Turtle (#227) (Edited)

However, I strongly suspect the Mossad knew the attacks were going to happen and didn't warn the U.S. government. They were tracking the plotters in the U.S.

There were "Israeli art students," actually discharged IDF soldiers doing training for intel work, who lived within a few blocks of Atta and his companions and were tracking his calls. This has been documented and reported, including by Carl Cameron, before it was pulled.

Other "Israeli art students" would go up to secure US buildings and check their security, and see if they could get in under the guise of selling the toy helicopters or whatever else they were supposed to be peddling.

2001: Israeli Spying on the US

At some times when the behavior of the people tracking Atta is pointed out to Israeli supporters, they claim a warning was passed on to the USG but it was misrouted and ignored. That doesn't explain how the "Israeli moving company" knew exactly what was going to happen and where. And was ready with their movie cameras.

AGAviator  posted on  2010-07-08   12:17:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#230. To: buckeroo (#228)

Have you been repeatedly called a "psy-op" yet

Nah, they went straight to their homoerotic projections.

AGAviator  posted on  2010-07-08   12:18:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#231. To: AGAviator (#229)

At some times when the behavior of the people tracking Atta is pointed out to Israeli supporters, they claim a warning was passed on to the USG but it was misrouted and ignored. That doesn't explain how the "Israeli moving company" knew exactly what was going to happen and where.

I wouldn't be surprised at all if the "Truthers" were a government operation. People will always fall for a conspiracy theory, and the more ridiculous it is - - even if it's clearly impossble -- the easier they fall for it.

What better way for the government to herd the sheeple than to give them preposterous conspiracy theories to divert them from real, serious problems?

St. Ausgustine on the State: "It was a criminal band that achieved legitimacy not by renouncing aggression, but rather by attaining impunity."

Turtle  posted on  2010-07-08   12:29:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#232. To: Turtle, buckeroo (#231)

What better way for the government to herd the sheeple than to give them preposterous conspiracy theories to divert them from real, serious problems?

My sentiments exactly.

Similar to the the 1917 Russian communists controlling counter-revolutionaries, sowing suspision and divisiveness, by charging everybody not under their own control was a communist double agent.

AGAviator  posted on  2010-07-08   12:35:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#233. To: AGAviator (#230)

Nah, they went straight to their homoerotic projections.

WOW! You must have really stirred the hornet's nest up. It is proof that you can claim victory on the 9/11 fiasco for this thread.

There is no way to tell these guys that the US government isn't smart enough to pull off this sort of crap. What the government does however is react as in the US Patriot Act which is often WRONG; it is subversive and counter productive and yields to later conspiracy theories.

Still, I miss the days when other posters challenged these guys. Eventually, they simply left as it is tiring to discuss even common sense.

"we ought to lay off the criticism" -- Pinguinite, circa 2010-05-26 22:17:22 ET

buckeroo  posted on  2010-07-08   12:37:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#234. To: buckeroo (#233)

Eventually, they simply left as it is tiring to discuss even common sense.

That is not what is happening.


"With respect to the words general welfare, I have always regarded them as qualified by the detail of powers connected with them. To take them in a literal and unlimited sense would be a metamorphosis of the Constitution into a character which there is a host of proofs was not contemplated by its creators."
James Madison, Letter to James Robertson, April 20, 1831

farmfriend  posted on  2010-07-08   12:39:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  



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