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Title: Neanderthal genome – our red-headed, muscle-bound siblings live on within us
Source: Bear Market News
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Published: Jul 6, 2010
Author: Carol Roper
Post Date: 2010-07-06 13:48:42 by Turtle
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Fascinating discoveries recently shed new light on the Neanderthal – researchers have sequenced the Neanderthal genome – we now know exactly what differs and what is the same between them and modern day humans. Not surprisingly, there are some major commonalities. Now we know that humans and Neanderthals interbred to some degree. Today, there remains a part of Homo neanderthalensis which lives on in Homo sapiens.

This is wonderful and exciting news for all except those who think existence is only 6k years old, and are convinced that Homo sapiens was created “special and different” from all other species.

Well, hold on, Fundie-fantasy-folks, because you’re about to lose even more credibility if that’s possible.


So what is a genome? Well, it’s the enormously huge list of chemical bases – there are only four – Adenine, Cytosine, Guanine and Thymine, called ACGT respectively, which by their arrangement tell our bodies how to do everything involved in making our selves. Further, AT form a pair, and CG form a pair. When we sequence a genome, we basically identify and then create the list of many millions of bases/letters – ATCGCGGCATTA – etc, which form “sentences‘ and each sentence is a particular gene, for example, the gene to make an eye, or skin. Each cell in our bodies houses two sets of the human genome- the “Double Helix” shown above. Many things require combinations of genes. But all humans essentially have exactly the same genes. That’s why research into genetics will help cure diseases – breast cancer is “expressed’ by a defect in the language of the sentence. Once we learn to repair the poor genetic grammar, we’ll have cured breast cancer. And on and on.

Evolution is basically a natural editing of the sentences. Sometimes it’s well done, enabling an individual to better live and function in its environment, and sometimes it is disastrous- leading to extinction. Sometimes, a misplaced base pair has no effect whatsoever. It’s a slow process. Imagine if one base pair changed per lifetime and you begin to get an idea of how long evolution takes. (That’s not ‘exactly’ how it happens, you might fine three base pair changes in one lifetime, and none for many generations, but the concept is fine for understanding the seemingly endless length of time a change would take to manifest across a species.


It’s no surprise at all that there are mutual genes with Neanderthals, really, but what we didn’t know was that between 1 and 4% of the Eurasian genome comes directly from the Neanderthal. Yes, they were a separate line, but not so separate that interbreeding with sapiens couldn’t happen, and now we know it did. Each time we make a leap in our knowledge, we learn more about the specifics of human and Neanderthal exchanges.

Forensic Anthropology scientists at both Penn State and the University of Pennsylvania have been working to further understand the connection between Neanderthals and humans.

Harold Dibble, a curator at the University of Pennsylvania Museum of Archaeology and Anthropology (if you haven’t been, GO! it’s one of the BEST) saw this coming years ago as scientists disagreed about many Neanderthal characteristics.

“In the late 20th century the field split over just how similar Neanderthals were to us, Dibble said. He calls the two factions the “smart Neanderthal camp” and the “dumb Neanderthal camp.”

The “dumb” camp says Neanderthals were significantly less intelligent than modern man despite a comparable brain size. They lacked language and complex social order and couldn’t possibly have interbred with our ancestors.

The “smart” Neanderthal camp says they had intelligence comparable to ours, they talked and otherwise behaved like human beings.

Professor Paabo with Neanderthal skull.

In 2007 Science Magazine announced that European researchers extracted enough DNA from two Neanderthal skulls to suggest their owners sported red hair and white skin when they were alive 43,000 and 50,000 years ago.

Recently announced research led by Professor Svante Paabo of the Max Planck Institute for Evolutionary Anthropology has revealed the new data.

Writing in Science Journal, the researchers describe how they compared this draft sequence with the genomes of modern people from around the globe. “The comparison of these two genetic sequences enables us to find out where our genome differs from that of our closest relative,” said Professor Paabo.

The results show that the genomes of non-Africans (from Europe, China and New Guinea) are closer to the Neanderthal sequence than are those from Africa. The most likely explanation, say the researchers, is that there was limited mating, or “gene flow”, between Neanderthals and the ancestors of present-day Eurasians.

This must have taken place just as people were leaving Africa, while they were still part of one pioneering population. This mixing could have taken place either in North Africa, the Levant or the Arabian Peninsula, say the researchers.

In fact, Science mag was so taken with the new work they have devoted multiple sections of their website to an exploration of what we know about Neanderthals. It’s well worth spending time reading. Much of the information has been made free in honor of this momentous occasion though some parts do require a paid subscription.


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I always knew I was part Neanderthal. I'd say about two-and-one-half percent.

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#1. To: Turtle (#0)

About a year and a half ago I was lounging outside of my former place of employ and noticed a man walking down the street. His features were so classically Neanderthal that it was absolutely mind blowing. He had the correct cranial shape right down to the bony brow ridge, wide shoulders, unusually long arms, and walked in an almost anthropoid gait. You could have put him in a breech cloth, snapped his photo, and fit him in to any good Anthropology text as "Homo Neanderthalis". No shit.

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