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Title: Why I Don't Have Any Use for Truthers
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Published: Jul 9, 2010
Author: Turtle
Post Date: 2010-07-09 11:35:19 by Turtle
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Poster Comment: This woman had sulfuric acid thrown in her face by guess who? Someone engaging in Typical Negro Behavior. They do this out of envy. "I can't get this woman, so nobody can have her." He got life in prison. These are the real problems, not hallucinations abour remote-controlled airplanes and bombs in towers.
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#98. To: wudidiz (#97)
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The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one.
heck. when was the semi blacks name changed to barack h. obama?
dang it OI now you went and made the resident shill for the liar movement cry.
It's not Bin Laden on the tape. Exactly. They could have him reciting the Athanasian Creed and it would still be meaningless Meaningless only to idiots who don't know how to listen and process information to make decisions on. You claim the 2004 OBL tape is a gubmint fabrication. Based on internet amateur self-taught forensics. The fact is, the message of the tape is for American people to wake up, understand their government and military-industrial complex are working against them, and to insure their own security by having a country which respects the security of other people in other parts of the world. The message along with who that message is from is what's important about the tape. It's not about Elvis sightings to any people with brains. For you to ignore and trash this OBL anti-American government/military complex message as being part of the conspiracy and therefore irrelevant, shows it is you who are the real "false flag operatives." You pretend to be at the forefront of people desiring change, but you actually impede any meaningful progress by dismissing key and critical messages, diverting event discussions into preprogrammed strident fringe nostrums, and by making just enough background noise to make people considering new perspectives dismiss the whole subject out of hand to return to their comfort zones. Another key point of who is a "disinfo agent" or "false flag operative" is to look at what side is continuously screaming that label. "Agent provocateurs" who continually scream how their adversaries are false flags are historically the ones who have been the most compromised themselves. So deal with it, gubmint shills. You're phonies and frauds, accusing other people of your own shortcomings.
------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ One of the major consequences of the 9/11 movement has been to draw enormous amounts of energy and effort away from activism directed to real and ongoing crimes of state, and their institutional background, crimes that are far more serious than blowing up the WTC would be, if there were any credibility to that thesis. That is, I suspect, why the 9/11 movement is treated far more tolerantly by centers of power than is the norm for serious critical and activist work. Noam Chomsky
now the factaphobic is really in a tizzy.
For you to ignore and trash this anti-American government/military complex message as being part of a conspiracy and irrelevant, shows it is you who are the real "false flag operatives." You pretend to be at the forefront of people desiring change, but you actually impede any meaningful progress by dismissing key and critical messages, diverting event discussions into preprogrammed strident fringe nostrums, and by making just enough background noise to make people considering new perspectives dismiss the whole subject out of hand to return to their comfort zones. Another key point of who is a "disinfo agent" or "false flag operative" is to look at what side is continuously screaming that label. "Agent provocateurs" who continually scream how their adversaries are historically the ones who have been the most compromised themselves. So deal with it, gubmint shills. You're phonies and frauds, accusing other people of your own shortcomings. Oh this is rich....
Hahahahaha
Another idiotic statement from a non-qualified internet imbecile. This time on aviation. Anybody with more than a couple hours of flight instruction will tell you the most difficult aspects of flying an aircraft are landings, followed by takeoffs. Keeping a plane going straight and on course even at high speed is maybe 5% of the total knowledge and capability needed. The above holds especially true in clear and smooth weather with extended visual ability, an autopilot, and a preprogrammed route. There have even been instances where aircrews have been disciplined for not having anyone at the controls for several minutes, and the planes still traveled safely. The hijackers did not take the planes off themselves, and waited until the planes were at their assigned altitudes before taking over and changing courses on routes that had already been surveyed and plotted. There was nothing to it. Even so, 2 out of the 4 hijacked planes had problems with their attacks due to unexpected events and inexperienced pilots. The 270/330 degreee Pentagon hit on the rear of the building, instead of the front where the top officials had their offices. In a descending power turn, the Pentagon attack pilot failed to compensate for increased lift and needed to salvage any hit at all on the building by coming in from the back, and hitting at a less than straight on 90 degree angle. In the crash in Pennsylvania, the aircraft failed to hit any target because some brave and athletic passengers decided to swarm the attackers and able to overpower them. As recorded by telephone calls at the time they did it. The New York planes were able to hit their targets. That's 50% success completed missions, maybe give Pentagon another 10%-15% for hitting the Pentagon in a different location than planned, and 0% for the Pennsylvania crash. So you actually have your "inexperienced pilot" scenario. But since that doesn't mesh with your own mythology you accuse the gubmint of, you dismiss and ignore the facts, as usual.
------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ One of the major consequences of the 9/11 movement has been to draw enormous amounts of energy and effort away from activism directed to real and ongoing crimes of state, and their institutional background, crimes that are far more serious than blowing up the WTC would be, if there were any credibility to that thesis. That is, I suspect, why the 9/11 movement is treated far more tolerantly by centers of power than is the norm for serious critical and activist work. Noam Chomsky
You wish, pud puller.
------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ One of the major consequences of the 9/11 movement has been to draw enormous amounts of energy and effort away from activism directed to real and ongoing crimes of state, and their institutional background, crimes that are far more serious than blowing up the WTC would be, if there were any credibility to that thesis. That is, I suspect, why the 9/11 movement is treated far more tolerantly by centers of power than is the norm for serious critical and activist work. Noam Chomsky
the goofenheimer must have graduated with top honors from the eweconic school of debate and applied logic .
I see you're still spreading your slime, you worm.
WWGPD? - (What Would General Pinochet Do?)
How the hell does he type so fast and WhyTF does he keep pinging buckeroo and Turtle?
oh, poor ag crying like a school girl.
With all your thousands of internet sites, billions of words, and nearly 9 years you $hitbrains have had to get your 911 k00kology together, tell me exactly how how many people up for election this November will be quoted on your 911 whodunits? Oh, and how are the BC lawsuits going? BVWAHAHAHAHAHAA!!!!!!! Now that's what's rich, losers.
------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ One of the major consequences of the 9/11 movement has been to draw enormous amounts of energy and effort away from activism directed to real and ongoing crimes of state, and their institutional background, crimes that are far more serious than blowing up the WTC would be, if there were any credibility to that thesis. That is, I suspect, why the 9/11 movement is treated far more tolerantly by centers of power than is the norm for serious critical and activist work. Noam Chomsky
peas of pod, queers in a condo, the other two ids residing in his brain ( it's a studio apartment kinda thing) what little there is?.? he keeps posting the same crap because those are the current ideas bouncing around like a pong graphic in his mostly empty cranium.
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------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ One of the major consequences of the 9/11 movement has been to draw enormous amounts of energy and effort away from activism directed to real and ongoing crimes of state, and their institutional background, crimes that are far more serious than blowing up the WTC would be, if there were any credibility to that thesis. That is, I suspect, why the 9/11 movement is treated far more tolerantly by centers of power than is the norm for serious critical and activist work. Noam Chomsky
LOL!!
Crying about many k00ks -zero - you're getting elected? Crying about how many Obama BC lawsuits -zero - are proceeding in court? Crying about how you have reached the mindless state where all you can do is repeat the same old insults and look for strokes from each other? BWAHAHAHAHAAH! Losers. Nobody pays good money for communications to losers. You're irrelevant.
------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ One of the major consequences of the 9/11 movement has been to draw enormous amounts of energy and effort away from activism directed to real and ongoing crimes of state, and their institutional background, crimes that are far more serious than blowing up the WTC would be, if there were any credibility to that thesis. That is, I suspect, why the 9/11 movement is treated far more tolerantly by centers of power than is the norm for serious critical and activist work. Noam Chomsky
Noam Chomsky's Jewish, of course he's gonna say that.
I suppose this wasn't Saddam either. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ One of the major consequences of the 9/11 movement has been to draw enormous amounts of energy and effort away from activism directed to real and ongoing crimes of state, and their institutional background, crimes that are far more serious than blowing up the WTC would be, if there were any credibility to that thesis. That is, I suspect, why the 9/11 movement is treated far more tolerantly by centers of power than is the norm for serious critical and activist work. Noam Chomsky
That looks very much like the same person. Different hair length and one has a beard while the other doesn't. Not really a fair comparison because of the different angles.
Yeah, here.
You should be aware at one time there were a lot of postings that it wasn't Saddam who got actually captured, both because Saddam used doubles, and also because some amateur internet forensicists nit picked over picture details, just like they're doing with the OBL 2004 shots.
------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ One of the major consequences of the 9/11 movement has been to draw enormous amounts of energy and effort away from activism directed to real and ongoing crimes of state, and their institutional background, crimes that are far more serious than blowing up the WTC would be, if there were any credibility to that thesis. That is, I suspect, why the 9/11 movement is treated far more tolerantly by centers of power than is the norm for serious critical and activist work. Noam Chomsky
I had no idea he was so sensitive over the Psychic Friends Network. Honest.
"One of the least understood strategies of the world revolution now moving rapidly toward its goal is the use of mind control as a major means of obtaining the consent of the people who will be subjects of the New World Order." K.M. Heaton, The National Educator
I'm aware of that.
Warning, 2 Different NYFD Fireman Say Building 7 Will Collapse From Existing Damage.
------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ One of the major consequences of the 9/11 movement has been to draw enormous amounts of energy and effort away from activism directed to real and ongoing crimes of state, and their institutional background, crimes that are far more serious than blowing up the WTC would be, if there were any credibility to that thesis. That is, I suspect, why the 9/11 movement is treated far more tolerantly by centers of power than is the norm for serious critical and activist work. Noam Chomsky
I don't know that you're a paid government agent, but I do know you're spreading disinformation. Building 7 fell from controlled demolition.
This video I've never seen before. Strange. Something seems fake about it. Why would the firefighter say, "See the way it's leaning over like that? It's definitely gonna fall. There's no way to stop it..." Have you seen it before?
Tell it to a fireman.
------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ One of the major consequences of the 9/11 movement has been to draw enormous amounts of energy and effort away from activism directed to real and ongoing crimes of state, and their institutional background, crimes that are far more serious than blowing up the WTC would be, if there were any credibility to that thesis. That is, I suspect, why the 9/11 movement is treated far more tolerantly by centers of power than is the norm for serious critical and activist work. Noam Chomsky
Have you seen it before? He had already put a transit on the building several hours previously, and over that time observed a gradual leaning of critical components, as the building mass got re-distributed from damaged columns to more intact ones. Which columns themselves were subject to stresses from their own damages, from uncontrolled fires fed by tens of thousands of gallons of diesel fuel, and misdirected forces. Like he said, "There's no way to stop it."
------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ One of the major consequences of the 9/11 movement has been to draw enormous amounts of energy and effort away from activism directed to real and ongoing crimes of state, and their institutional background, crimes that are far more serious than blowing up the WTC would be, if there were any credibility to that thesis. That is, I suspect, why the 9/11 movement is treated far more tolerantly by centers of power than is the norm for serious critical and activist work. Noam Chomsky
Hey internet CT pushers! Did ya happen to know that over 6 times as many Americans (50%) believe that UFO aliens have abducted humans, than believe it was "very likely" that the WTC Towers were brought down by "secretly planted explosives (6%)?" Of course you didn't!!!!!!! That suuure is a select group of people you're included in. BWAHAHAHAHHAHAHA!!!!! Poll: U.S. Hiding Knowledge of [UFO] Aliens The poll has a margin of error of plus or minus 3 percentage points. • 77% "unlikely" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ One of the major consequences of the 9/11 movement has been to draw enormous amounts of energy and effort away from activism directed to real and ongoing crimes of state, and their institutional background, crimes that are far more serious than blowing up the WTC would be, if there were any credibility to that thesis. That is, I suspect, why the 9/11 movement is treated far more tolerantly by centers of power than is the norm for serious critical and activist work. Noam Chomsky
Of course you didn't!!!!!!! That suuure is a select group of people you're included in. BWAHAHAHAHHAHAHA!!!!! The masses are usually mistaken ... as demonstrated by your post. Are you being paid to report this nonsense ?
Resolve to serve no more, and you are at once freed. I do not ask that you place hands upon the tyrant to topple him over, but simply that you support him no longer; then you will behold him, like a great Colossus whose pedestal has been pulled away, fall of his own weight and break in pieces
They claim that that is his given name at birth. Then when his mother married the Soetoro guy he allegedly adopted him and that changed his name to Soetoro (sp?). When he changed it back I have no idea. Nor any idea how many names he has used--I have read that he has as many as 27 different Social Security numbers. If so he would have to have at least 27 names.
Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end. He (Gordon Duff) also implies that forcibly removing Obama, a Constitution-hating, on-the-down-low, crackhead Communist, is an attack on America, Mom, and apple pie. I swear these military people are worse than useless. Just look around at the condition of the country and tell me if they have fulfilled their oaths to protect the nation from all enemies foreign and domestic. deleted
The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one.
I see you have received the coveted "PSY-OP" award, not just once but several times on this thread; you have even received warnings in black, bold hyper font from time to time! This is an honour that only a few of us esteemed patriots can sport about the 4um. You have made the BIG_TIME. BTW, you win the thread. Good job, that took a lot of perseverance and tenacity.
"we ought to lay off the criticism" -- Pinguinite, circa 2010-05-26 22:17:22 ET
That's one of the most puzzling things about it. What kind of people hold a trial for nine years and can't find any evidence, but won't give up? It's same same with the Kennedy murder -- going on 50 years and they can't give up. On the other hand, if they were the target for 50 years of conspiracy kooks, they'd be howling bloody murder. "What is wrong with you nuts? Can't you see I'm innocent? You don't have an atom of proof!"
St. Ausgustine on the State: "It was a criminal band that achieved legitimacy not by renouncing aggression, but rather by attaining impunity."
killtown.911review.org/ 911smokingguns.html 250+ 9/11 'Smoking Guns' Found in the Mainstream Media
for someone with a big brain, it sure the hell is narrow. Edit: make that self reported big brain
You must not be reading the same Turtle "data set" as I have been to draw the first part of your inference.
note my edit
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#99. To: James Deffenbach (#20)
and I want to see Obama's actual birth certificate (a real one that hasn't been doctored will probably prove he was born in Kenya just like his grandmother said).
computer counted ballots are ballots that have been counted in secret, and with all probability not the way one voted.
#100. To: Original_Intent (#24)
computer counted ballots are ballots that have been counted in secret, and with all probability not the way one voted.
#101. To: Original_Intent, wudidiz, buckeroo, turtle (#96)
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It doesn't matter what the messages on the tape are.
#102. To: Original_Intent, wudidiz (#101)
computer counted ballots are ballots that have been counted in secret, and with all probability not the way one voted.
#103. To: AGAviator, *9-11*, *Escape From ElPee*, *Humor-Weird News*, buckeroo, Turtle, all (#101)
#101. To: Original_Intent, wudidiz, buckeroo, turtle (#96)
“It has been said, 'time heals all wounds.' I do not agree. The wounds remain. In time, the mind, protecting its sanity, covers them with scar tissue and the pain lessens, but it is never gone.” ~ Rose F. Kennedy
#104. To: IRTorqued, Eric Stratton, Original_Intent (#102)
now the factaphobic is really in a tizzy.
“It has been said, 'time heals all wounds.' I do not agree. The wounds remain. In time, the mind, protecting its sanity, covers them with scar tissue and the pain lessens, but it is never gone.” ~ Rose F. Kennedy
#105. To: Original_Intent, buckeroo, turtle (#44)
"19ArabsWhoHateUsCuzWe'reFree" who can't fly competently a single engine Cessna can suddenly fly a Jumbo Jet Airliner like a Master Pilot and remain invisible to the most advanced air defense system.
#106. To: IRTorqued (#102)
#107. To: wudidiz (#104)
computer counted ballots are ballots that have been counted in secret, and with all probability not the way one voted.
#108. To: AGAviator (#105)
#109. To: Original_Intent, AGAviator (#105)
“It has been said, 'time heals all wounds.' I do not agree. The wounds remain. In time, the mind, protecting its sanity, covers them with scar tissue and the pain lessens, but it is never gone.” ~ Rose F. Kennedy
#110. To: AGAviator (#106)
computer counted ballots are ballots that have been counted in secret, and with all probability not the way one voted.
#111. To: wudidiz, buckeroo, turtle (#103)
Oh this is rich....
#112. To: wudidiz (#109)
computer counted ballots are ballots that have been counted in secret, and with all probability not the way one voted.
#113. To: Flintlock (#108)
#114. To: IRTorqued (#112)
a pong graphic
“It has been said, 'time heals all wounds.' I do not agree. The wounds remain. In time, the mind, protecting its sanity, covers them with scar tissue and the pain lessens, but it is never gone.” ~ Rose F. Kennedy
#115. To: IRTorqued, buckeroo, turtle, cynicom (#110)
oh, poor ag crying like a school girl.
#116. To: AGAviator (#113)
“It has been said, 'time heals all wounds.' I do not agree. The wounds remain. In time, the mind, protecting its sanity, covers them with scar tissue and the pain lessens, but it is never gone.” ~ Rose F. Kennedy
#117. To: wudidiz, turtle, buckeroo, cynicom (#97)
#118. To: AGAviator (#117)
“It has been said, 'time heals all wounds.' I do not agree. The wounds remain. In time, the mind, protecting its sanity, covers them with scar tissue and the pain lessens, but it is never gone.” ~ Rose F. Kennedy
#119. To: randge (#1)
Any other nominations for the most stupid post of the year??
“It has been said, 'time heals all wounds.' I do not agree. The wounds remain. In time, the mind, protecting its sanity, covers them with scar tissue and the pain lessens, but it is never gone.” ~ Rose F. Kennedy
#120. To: wudidiz (#118)
That looks very much like the same person.
#121. To: IRTorqued (#100)
dang it OI now you went and made the resident shill for the liar movement cry.
#122. To: AGAviator (#120)
You should be aware at one time there were a lot of postings that it wasn't Saddam who got actually captured, both because Saddam used doubles, and also because some amateur internet forensicists nit picked over picture details, just like they're doing with the OBL 2004 shots.
“It has been said, 'time heals all wounds.' I do not agree. The wounds remain. In time, the mind, protecting its sanity, covers them with scar tissue and the pain lessens, but it is never gone.” ~ Rose F. Kennedy
#123. To: AGAviator (#120)
“It has been said, 'time heals all wounds.' I do not agree. The wounds remain. In time, the mind, protecting its sanity, covers them with scar tissue and the pain lessens, but it is never gone.” ~ Rose F. Kennedy
#124. To: wudidiz, critter, budkeroo, turtle (#95)
WARNING: AGAviator is a paid government agent who is here to spread disinformation. BEWARE!
#125. To: AGAviator (#124)
WARNING: AGAviator is a paid government agent who is here to spread disinformation. BEWARE!
“It has been said, 'time heals all wounds.' I do not agree. The wounds remain. In time, the mind, protecting its sanity, covers them with scar tissue and the pain lessens, but it is never gone.” ~ Rose F. Kennedy
#126. To: Original_Intent, FormerLurker, Eric Stratton, IRTorqued, AGAviator, Flintlock, *9-11* (#124)
“It has been said, 'time heals all wounds.' I do not agree. The wounds remain. In time, the mind, protecting its sanity, covers them with scar tissue and the pain lessens, but it is never gone.” ~ Rose F. Kennedy
#127. To: wudidiz (#125)
Building 7 fell from controlled demolition
#128. To: wudidiz, buckero, criter, turtle. (#126)
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Why would the firefighter say, "See the way it's leaning over like that? It's definitely gonna fall. There's no way to stop it..."
#129. To: Original_Intent, IRTorqued, critter, buckeroo, turtle (#121)
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so sensitive over the Psychic Friends Network. Honest.
Sixty- four percent of the respondents said that aliens have contacted humans,
Half said they've abducted humans, and
37 percent said they have contacted the U.S. government. The collapse of the twin towers in New York was aided by explosives secretly planted in the two buildings"
• 10% "somewhat likely"
• 6% "very likely"[13]
#130. To: AGAviator (#129)
Did ya happen to know that over 6 times as many Americans (50%) believe that UFO aliens have abducted humans, than believe it was "very likely" that the WTC Towers were brought down by "secretly planted explosives (6%)?"
#131. To: IRTorqued (#99)
heck. when was the semi blacks name changed to barack h. obama?
Lord Acton
OsamaBinGoldstein posted on 2010-05-25 9:39:59 ET (2 images) Reply Trace
#132. To: wudidiz (#126)
#133. To: AGAviator (#129)
#134. To: AGAviator (#111)
and nearly 9 years
#135. To: AGAviator (#111)
#136. To: Turtle (#134)
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#137. To: christine (#136)
for someone with a big brain, it sure the hell is narrow.
#138. To: Samuel Gray (#137)
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