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Published: Jul 9, 2010
Author: Turtle
Post Date: 2010-07-09 11:35:19 by Turtle
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Poster Comment: This woman had sulfuric acid thrown in her face by guess who? Someone engaging in Typical Negro Behavior. They do this out of envy. "I can't get this woman, so nobody can have her." He got life in prison. These are the real problems, not hallucinations abour remote-controlled airplanes and bombs in towers.
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#124. To: wudidiz, critter, budkeroo, turtle (#95)
Warning, 2 Different NYFD Fireman Say Building 7 Will Collapse From Existing Damage.
------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ One of the major consequences of the 9/11 movement has been to draw enormous amounts of energy and effort away from activism directed to real and ongoing crimes of state, and their institutional background, crimes that are far more serious than blowing up the WTC would be, if there were any credibility to that thesis. That is, I suspect, why the 9/11 movement is treated far more tolerantly by centers of power than is the norm for serious critical and activist work. Noam Chomsky
I don't know that you're a paid government agent, but I do know you're spreading disinformation. Building 7 fell from controlled demolition.
This video I've never seen before. Strange. Something seems fake about it. Why would the firefighter say, "See the way it's leaning over like that? It's definitely gonna fall. There's no way to stop it..." Have you seen it before?
Tell it to a fireman.
------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ One of the major consequences of the 9/11 movement has been to draw enormous amounts of energy and effort away from activism directed to real and ongoing crimes of state, and their institutional background, crimes that are far more serious than blowing up the WTC would be, if there were any credibility to that thesis. That is, I suspect, why the 9/11 movement is treated far more tolerantly by centers of power than is the norm for serious critical and activist work. Noam Chomsky
Have you seen it before? He had already put a transit on the building several hours previously, and over that time observed a gradual leaning of critical components, as the building mass got re-distributed from damaged columns to more intact ones. Which columns themselves were subject to stresses from their own damages, from uncontrolled fires fed by tens of thousands of gallons of diesel fuel, and misdirected forces. Like he said, "There's no way to stop it."
------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ One of the major consequences of the 9/11 movement has been to draw enormous amounts of energy and effort away from activism directed to real and ongoing crimes of state, and their institutional background, crimes that are far more serious than blowing up the WTC would be, if there were any credibility to that thesis. That is, I suspect, why the 9/11 movement is treated far more tolerantly by centers of power than is the norm for serious critical and activist work. Noam Chomsky
Hey internet CT pushers! Did ya happen to know that over 6 times as many Americans (50%) believe that UFO aliens have abducted humans, than believe it was "very likely" that the WTC Towers were brought down by "secretly planted explosives (6%)?" Of course you didn't!!!!!!! That suuure is a select group of people you're included in. BWAHAHAHAHHAHAHA!!!!! Poll: U.S. Hiding Knowledge of [UFO] Aliens The poll has a margin of error of plus or minus 3 percentage points. • 77% "unlikely" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ One of the major consequences of the 9/11 movement has been to draw enormous amounts of energy and effort away from activism directed to real and ongoing crimes of state, and their institutional background, crimes that are far more serious than blowing up the WTC would be, if there were any credibility to that thesis. That is, I suspect, why the 9/11 movement is treated far more tolerantly by centers of power than is the norm for serious critical and activist work. Noam Chomsky
Of course you didn't!!!!!!! That suuure is a select group of people you're included in. BWAHAHAHAHHAHAHA!!!!! The masses are usually mistaken ... as demonstrated by your post. Are you being paid to report this nonsense ?
Resolve to serve no more, and you are at once freed. I do not ask that you place hands upon the tyrant to topple him over, but simply that you support him no longer; then you will behold him, like a great Colossus whose pedestal has been pulled away, fall of his own weight and break in pieces
They claim that that is his given name at birth. Then when his mother married the Soetoro guy he allegedly adopted him and that changed his name to Soetoro (sp?). When he changed it back I have no idea. Nor any idea how many names he has used--I have read that he has as many as 27 different Social Security numbers. If so he would have to have at least 27 names.
Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end. He (Gordon Duff) also implies that forcibly removing Obama, a Constitution-hating, on-the-down-low, crackhead Communist, is an attack on America, Mom, and apple pie. I swear these military people are worse than useless. Just look around at the condition of the country and tell me if they have fulfilled their oaths to protect the nation from all enemies foreign and domestic. deleted
The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one.
I see you have received the coveted "PSY-OP" award, not just once but several times on this thread; you have even received warnings in black, bold hyper font from time to time! This is an honour that only a few of us esteemed patriots can sport about the 4um. You have made the BIG_TIME. BTW, you win the thread. Good job, that took a lot of perseverance and tenacity.
"we ought to lay off the criticism" -- Pinguinite, circa 2010-05-26 22:17:22 ET
That's one of the most puzzling things about it. What kind of people hold a trial for nine years and can't find any evidence, but won't give up? It's same same with the Kennedy murder -- going on 50 years and they can't give up. On the other hand, if they were the target for 50 years of conspiracy kooks, they'd be howling bloody murder. "What is wrong with you nuts? Can't you see I'm innocent? You don't have an atom of proof!"
St. Ausgustine on the State: "It was a criminal band that achieved legitimacy not by renouncing aggression, but rather by attaining impunity."
killtown.911review.org/ 911smokingguns.html 250+ 9/11 'Smoking Guns' Found in the Mainstream Media
for someone with a big brain, it sure the hell is narrow. Edit: make that self reported big brain
You must not be reading the same Turtle "data set" as I have been to draw the first part of your inference.
note my edit
Thank you. Be thankful that his brain is all he's waving around the site, claiming it's big and spectacular when it's...not.
I wasn't THAT dumb, but I did make thermite when I was 12 and 13.
St. Ausgustine on the State: "It was a criminal band that achieved legitimacy not by renouncing aggression, but rather by attaining impunity."
No, I don't. But I do know blacks and "Hispanics" are responsible for an enormous amount of crime in the U.S. I once met the mother of two teenage girls who were raped and murdered buy three blacks and one 15-year-old whigger -- murdered by being thown off of a bridge into the Mississipi. Can you say you've met such as mother? As for Jews, Jewish Bolshevists murdered at least 20 million Russians, and have been expelled more than 100 times. U.S. Grant ried to expell them during the War between the States. Buy you didn't know any of this, do you?
St. Ausgustine on the State: "It was a criminal band that achieved legitimacy not by renouncing aggression, but rather by attaining impunity."
It takes a lot of ignorance to believe that Aggravator has "won" anything on this thread. He showed himself to be a pro-government stooge who swallows their lies if that is what you think of as a "winner."
Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end. He (Gordon Duff) also implies that forcibly removing Obama, a Constitution-hating, on-the-down-low, crackhead Communist, is an attack on America, Mom, and apple pie. I swear these military people are worse than useless. Just look around at the condition of the country and tell me if they have fulfilled their oaths to protect the nation from all enemies foreign and domestic. Where has AGAviator taken a "pro-government" perspective?
"we ought to lay off the criticism" -- Pinguinite, circa 2010-05-26 22:17:22 ET
And I should allow all that minutiae to clutter my brain....why? You must hang out in some shit neighborhoods.
Anyone who believes that stupid government conspiracy theory has a "pro-government" perspective. That is the wackiest theory of all. Ten thousand of the best clowns Ringing and Brothers has, has had, or will ever have, couldn't make up a story so stupid and lame. Yet nuts like Aggravator fell for it.
Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end. He (Gordon Duff) also implies that forcibly removing Obama, a Constitution-hating, on-the-down-low, crackhead Communist, is an attack on America, Mom, and apple pie. I swear these military people are worse than useless. Just look around at the condition of the country and tell me if they have fulfilled their oaths to protect the nation from all enemies foreign and domestic. Met her in a lawyer's offfice in a downtown highrise in St. Louis.
St. Ausgustine on the State: "It was a criminal band that achieved legitimacy not by renouncing aggression, but rather by attaining impunity."
Beyond suspicion and doubt (which has been presented) where is there any direct proof and about government intervention concerning 9-11 other than after the devastating events? To pull off a mammoth tragedy like this would have taken hundreds if not thousands of personnel. And since 9-11, where are any of the whistle-blowers? To support a thesis based on reality requires not mere suspicion of a given phenomena. It requires supporting facts and a tragedy this large should have produced eye-witnesses by now. The events of 9-11 were pulled off by terrorists here in this country designed and planned in the ME, principally from Saudi Arabia. It was a carefully co-ordinated attack, timed to occur simultaneously at several destinations with a minimum of resources maximizing the devastation. The issues were about America's continuing support of and about Israel particularly as the US has aided and (indeed) orchestrated despair with the Palestinians. It was greatly influenced by the fall of the USSR's attempt to control Afghanistan while the US aided the "freedom fighters" there and then later vacated further assistance in the 1990s. There were other attempts in NYC in the 1990s that clearly show the contempt of the Taliban and the al-Qaida, as well. Now, I think the US government unintentionally received what is popularly referred to as "blowback; that is, the US government (particularly through the US state department and the CIA) created the sentiment of resentment based upon bungling and blundering our own official policies and procedures. But there was a strategic focus beyond anything mentioned which was the oil pipelines that were the REAL issues although never discussed from a formal US point of view. Those pipelines were worth far more than any war.... they were worth the sanctity of the US people to continue their unrelenting gluttony of sucking 25% of the world's oil supplies. So, it was really a sustaining mission and continues to this very day AND they is why you see politicians consistently flip-flop about their perspective of getting out. If America were truly attempting to modify it's methods of energy supplies (say adding nuclear power plants as China is performing) we could be out of the ME in no time at all. But, we don't do it. The politicians are controlled by powerful lobbyists that ensure ample rewards back to the politicians to continue sustaining America's oil gluttony. There is a threshold of pain that the American people require before we adopt alternative energy methods .... when that level of pain hits, it shall take years to develop and ensure ample distribution methods and through that period of time Americans are going to suffer BIG_TIME. But, we lack a need to modify our dependence on oil just yet. We have BP and deepwater technologies to thank for that.
"we ought to lay off the criticism" -- Pinguinite, circa 2010-05-26 22:17:22 ET
Yes, and no one has ever said a word. They haven't got drunk, or confessed on their deathbed, or found Jesus, or been overcome with guilt or gone on Oprah, or best of all, come clean because they're afraid another conspiracist is going to kill them to sure they won't talk. Nope, every one of them, all thousands of them, are keeping their lips zipped, showing complete loyalty to their cause. It's all nonsense, because the only way two people can keep a secret is if one of them is dead.
St. Ausgustine on the State: "It was a criminal band that achieved legitimacy not by renouncing aggression, but rather by attaining impunity."
There were millions of "eye witnesses" who saw the Salomon Brothers Building fall into its own footprint in about as close to free fall speed as you could imagine. For those who might not know that is in reference to WTC 7, the building which fell even though no plane hit it. And no other steel-framed skyscraper ever before or since has fallen due to fire damage, though some have burned much longer and hotter. One Meridian Plaza is a 38-floor skyscraper in Philadelphia that suffered a severe fire on February 23, 1991. The fire started on the 22nd floor and raged for 18 hours, gutting eight floors and causing an estimated $100 million in direct property loss. It was later described by Philadelphia officials as "the most significant fire in this century". The fire caused window breakage, cracking of granite, and failures of spandrel panel connections. Despite the severity and duration of the fire, as evidenced by the damage the building sustained, no part of the building collapsed. The First Interstate Bank Fire The First Interstate Bank Building is a 62-story skyscraper in Los Angeles that suffered the worst high-rise fire in the city's history. From the late evening of May 4, 1988 through the early morning of the next day, 64 fire companies battled the blaze, which lasted for 3 1/2 hours. The fire caused extensive window breakage, which complicated firefighting efforts. Large flames jutted out of the building during the blaze. Firefighting efforts resulted in massive water damage to floors below the fire, and the fire gutted offices from the 12th to the 16th floor, and caused extensive smoke damage to floors above. The fire caused an estimated $200 million in direct property loss. A report by Iklim Ltd. describes the structural damage from the fire: In spite of the total burnout of four and a half floors, there was no damage to the main structural members and only minor damage to one secondary beam and a small number of floor pans. The 1 New York Plaza Fire 1 New York Plaza is a 50-story office tower less than a mile from the World Trade Center site. It suffered a severe fire and explosion on August 5, 1970. The fire started around 6 PM, and burned for more than 6 hours. Caracas Tower Fire The tallest skyscraper in Caracas, Venezuela experienced a severe fire on October 17, 2004. The blaze began before midnight on the 34th floor, spread to more than 26 floors, and burned for more than 17 hours. Heat from the fires prevented firefighters from reaching the upper floors, and smoke injured 40 firefighters. Lax enforcement of fire codes in Venezuela was blamed for the malfunctioning of water pumps and a lack of fire extinguishers inside of the building. Because the building was empty when the fire broke out, no civilians were killed or injured. The Beijing Mandarin Oriental Hotel Fire The most recent example of a spectacular skyscraper fire was the burning of the Hotel Mandarin Oriental starting on February 9, 2009. The nearly completed 520-foot-tall skyscraper in Beijing caught fire around 8:00 pm, was engulfed within 20 minutes, and burned for at least 3 hours until midnight. Despite the fact that the fire extended across all of the floors for a period of time and burned out of control for hours, no large portion of the structure collapsed.... And then there was the obvious stand down by the Air Force that day. Despite normal intercept times of between 10 and 20 minutes for errant domestic flights, the airliners commandeered on 9/11/01 roamed the skies for over an hour without interference. And this in one of the busiest, if not the busiest, air traffic corridor in the world? Give me a break! 9/11 was either a MIHOP or a LIHOP. The government either made it happen on purpose or let it happen on purpose. No other explanation explains all the anomalies and the facts that are known. edited to remove footnote numbers since no footnotes are included here.
Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end. He (Gordon Duff) also implies that forcibly removing Obama, a Constitution-hating, on-the-down-low, crackhead Communist, is an attack on America, Mom, and apple pie. I swear these military people are worse than useless. Just look around at the condition of the country and tell me if they have fulfilled their oaths to protect the nation from all enemies foreign and domestic. Are you being paid to report this nonsense ? As far as being paid, again. No one pays good money to send a message to losers. The only places you're important are your own minds. As I've already said, you've had (1) Almost 9 years, (2) Thousands of websites, and (3) Billions of words, to make your case. Your results: Almost zero, with 6 times more people believing in UFO abductions, or Elvis sightings, than buy into the "USG controlled demolition" theories. You haven't persuaded anybody, and only serve the role of a freak circus sideshow from the existential questions the country needs to face.
------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ One of the major consequences of the 9/11 movement has been to draw enormous amounts of energy and effort away from activism directed to real and ongoing crimes of state, and their institutional background, crimes that are far more serious than blowing up the WTC would be, if there were any credibility to that thesis. That is, I suspect, why the 9/11 movement is treated far more tolerantly by centers of power than is the norm for serious critical and activist work. Noam Chomsky
Although the [WTC] buildings were designed to withstand a collision with a 200,000- pound Boeing 707, that theory obviously was never tested before. Nor did the designer claim to take into account that thousands of gallons of jet fuel might someday be spread throughout the floors of a crash area and down both elevator and other vertical shafts, according to Moore. He was also one of the few experts who was not surprised that the buildings collapsed. “I was more surprised the [WTC] buildings didn’t collapse immediately upon impact,” Moore says. “The buildings were designed so that the exterior 39-inch on-center, 14-inch square steel box columns produced a building resembling a steel tube. The center steel core carried gravity loads only. One of the videos shows the plane going in one side and coming out the other, thus compromising a major portion of the structural integrity of the building . We were very fortunate that the buildings didn’t fall horizontally and strike surrounding buildings.” “The structure was only designed to carry the weight of the contents, snow load, wind load, etc.,” Carter adds. “Once you add the momentum of the upper floors crashing down, the lower floors would collapse, as well.” Moore also remains unconvinced of the presence of explosives. “An analogy,” he says, “is the classic cheerleader-type pyramid of bodies: If the three people on top suddenly fall all at the same time, everybody on the bottom is probably going to fall as well and the pyramid crumbles. Also, when buildings are imploded, they place explosives on the lowest floor(s) and at least one more upper floor to start the momentum. If you just shot the first floor, the rest of the building might remain supported by the second floor and not completely fall.” ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ One of the major consequences of the 9/11 movement has been to draw enormous amounts of energy and effort away from activism directed to real and ongoing crimes of state, and their institutional background, crimes that are far more serious than blowing up the WTC would be, if there were any credibility to that thesis. That is, I suspect, why the 9/11 movement is treated far more tolerantly by centers of power than is the norm for serious critical and activist work. Noam Chomsky
Did you write this? If not, I want a hot link to the comment. Now, let me say this: WTC-7 was brought down because it was falling anyway. It was tremendously weakened from the earlier concussion from and about the twin towers.
"we ought to lay off the criticism" -- Pinguinite, circa 2010-05-26 22:17:22 ET
It takes a lot of ignorance to believe that Aggravator has "won" anything on this thread. He showed himself to be a pro-government stooge who swallows their lies if that is what you think of as a "winner." Hey Six Percenters! Did ya happen to know that over 6 times as many Americans (50%) believe that UFO aliens have abducted humans, than believe it was "very likely" that the WTC Towers were brought down by "secretly planted explosives (6%)?" Of course you didn't!!!!!!! That suuure is a select group of people you're included in. BWAHAHAHAHHAHAHA!!!!! Poll: U.S. Hiding Knowledge of [UFO] Aliens The poll has a margin of error of plus or minus 3 percentage points. • 77% "unlikely" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ One of the major consequences of the 9/11 movement has been to draw enormous amounts of energy and effort away from activism directed to real and ongoing crimes of state, and their institutional background, crimes that are far more serious than blowing up the WTC would be, if there were any credibility to that thesis. That is, I suspect, why the 9/11 movement is treated far more tolerantly by centers of power than is the norm for serious critical and activist work. Noam Chomsky
Yes, I did write it and it's true. It was falling? Curious that, since none ever had before and none have since. Better get off that Sterno, buck. That $#it is gonna kill you.
Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end. He (Gordon Duff) also implies that forcibly removing Obama, a Constitution-hating, on-the-down-low, crackhead Communist, is an attack on America, Mom, and apple pie. I swear these military people are worse than useless. Just look around at the condition of the country and tell me if they have fulfilled their oaths to protect the nation from all enemies foreign and domestic. Yes, Six Percenter, not only was it slowly leaning over and getting ready to fall, a NYFD fireman was interviewed at the time and said, on camera, QED pwned.
------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ One of the major consequences of the 9/11 movement has been to draw enormous amounts of energy and effort away from activism directed to real and ongoing crimes of state, and their institutional background, crimes that are far more serious than blowing up the WTC would be, if there were any credibility to that thesis. That is, I suspect, why the 9/11 movement is treated far more tolerantly by centers of power than is the norm for serious critical and activist work. Noam Chomsky
Yes. It was planned anyway and was largely vacated other than a few management offices.
"we ought to lay off the criticism" -- Pinguinite, circa 2010-05-26 22:17:22 ET
Good post @155 by yourself.
"we ought to lay off the criticism" -- Pinguinite, circa 2010-05-26 22:17:22 ET
Apparently they were all planned since no other steel-framed skyscraper has ever fallen due to fire either before or since. And they were designed to withstand the impact of the planes so that is a non starter.
Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end. He (Gordon Duff) also implies that forcibly removing Obama, a Constitution-hating, on-the-down-low, crackhead Communist, is an attack on America, Mom, and apple pie. I swear these military people are worse than useless. Just look around at the condition of the country and tell me if they have fulfilled their oaths to protect the nation from all enemies foreign and domestic. I have to simply GIVE_UP on this discussion. You remind me of a washing machine going through a spin-cycle.
"we ought to lay off the criticism" -- Pinguinite, circa 2010-05-26 22:17:22 ET
Thanks. I'm really getting tired of the Six Percenters throwing their ad hominem stink bombs whenever they get defeated on argument. Here's video of another class of Six Percenter - the kind who denies a moon landing took place - getting clocked by 72-year old astronaut Buzz Aldrin after the k00k walked up and pestered Aldrin, demanding he swear on a Bible he walked on the moon, then calling him a coward, a liar and a thief.
------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ One of the major consequences of the 9/11 movement has been to draw enormous amounts of energy and effort away from activism directed to real and ongoing crimes of state, and their institutional background, crimes that are far more serious than blowing up the WTC would be, if there were any credibility to that thesis. That is, I suspect, why the 9/11 movement is treated far more tolerantly by centers of power than is the norm for serious critical and activist work. Noam Chomsky
If you have a few moments and can tolerate a few spelling errors, take a peek at my post @147. It outlines my comprehensive opinion.
"we ought to lay off the criticism" -- Pinguinite, circa 2010-05-26 22:17:22 ET
Anyone who believes that stupid $#it the government put out might as well give up. Sane people don't believe that 19 ragheads sitting around in a cave somewhere in Bum-ef-I-stan outsmarted the best air defenses in the world, had incompetent "pilots" fly commercial jets into two big landmark buildings and the heart of the nation's military complex, all because they "hate our freedom." Complete and total bs!
Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end. He (Gordon Duff) also implies that forcibly removing Obama, a Constitution-hating, on-the-down-low, crackhead Communist, is an attack on America, Mom, and apple pie. I swear these military people are worse than useless. Just look around at the condition of the country and tell me if they have fulfilled their oaths to protect the nation from all enemies foreign and domestic. Where are the government whistle blowers? Don't you believe that there are a few patriots working in government that would have come forth and denied the BS, assuming there was some? No ..... you got it wrong. No one in our government would create the havoc that created this sort of devastation against innocent people. And, even if there were some with a shadow of evil intent, they would have eventually brought forth the 1) planning, logistics, execution, leadership and chain of command to initiate the order. The punk GWBush was reading about goats to a kindergarten class in Florida that same time and day. He didn't have a fucking clue.
"we ought to lay off the criticism" -- Pinguinite, circa 2010-05-26 22:17:22 ET
OK, you win. Now I believe in UFOs. (NOT !)
Resolve to serve no more, and you are at once freed. I do not ask that you place hands upon the tyrant to topple him over, but simply that you support him no longer; then you will behold him, like a great Colossus whose pedestal has been pulled away, fall of his own weight and break in pieces
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#125. To: AGAviator (#124)
WARNING: AGAviator is a paid government agent who is here to spread disinformation. BEWARE!
“It has been said, 'time heals all wounds.' I do not agree. The wounds remain. In time, the mind, protecting its sanity, covers them with scar tissue and the pain lessens, but it is never gone.” ~ Rose F. Kennedy
#126. To: Original_Intent, FormerLurker, Eric Stratton, IRTorqued, AGAviator, Flintlock, *9-11* (#124)
“It has been said, 'time heals all wounds.' I do not agree. The wounds remain. In time, the mind, protecting its sanity, covers them with scar tissue and the pain lessens, but it is never gone.” ~ Rose F. Kennedy
#127. To: wudidiz (#125)
Building 7 fell from controlled demolition
#128. To: wudidiz, buckero, criter, turtle. (#126)
(Edited)
Why would the firefighter say, "See the way it's leaning over like that? It's definitely gonna fall. There's no way to stop it..."
#129. To: Original_Intent, IRTorqued, critter, buckeroo, turtle (#121)
(Edited)
so sensitive over the Psychic Friends Network. Honest.
Sixty- four percent of the respondents said that aliens have contacted humans,
Half said they've abducted humans, and
37 percent said they have contacted the U.S. government. The collapse of the twin towers in New York was aided by explosives secretly planted in the two buildings"
• 10% "somewhat likely"
• 6% "very likely"[13]
#130. To: AGAviator (#129)
Did ya happen to know that over 6 times as many Americans (50%) believe that UFO aliens have abducted humans, than believe it was "very likely" that the WTC Towers were brought down by "secretly planted explosives (6%)?"
#131. To: IRTorqued (#99)
heck. when was the semi blacks name changed to barack h. obama?
Lord Acton
OsamaBinGoldstein posted on 2010-05-25 9:39:59 ET (2 images) Reply Trace
#132. To: wudidiz (#126)
#133. To: AGAviator (#129)
#134. To: AGAviator (#111)
and nearly 9 years
#135. To: AGAviator (#111)
#136. To: Turtle (#134)
(Edited)
#137. To: christine (#136)
for someone with a big brain, it sure the hell is narrow.
#138. To: Samuel Gray (#137)
#139. To: christine (#138)
note my edit
#140. To: TooConservative (#57)
Turtle, you were that kid who was always throwing rocks at the beehive, weren't you?
#141. To: Samuel Gray (#61)
You've decided that the bulk of the world's evils can be laid at the feet of 'dem ebil darkies, lawdy mercy'.
#142. To: buckeroo (#133)
BTW, you win the thread. Good job, that took a lot of perseverance and tenacity.
Lord Acton
OsamaBinGoldstein posted on 2010-05-25 9:39:59 ET (2 images) Reply Trace
#143. To: James Deffenbach, AGAviator (#142)
He showed himself to be a pro-government stooge who swallows their lies
#144. To: Turtle (#141)
#145. To: buckeroo (#143)
Lord Acton
OsamaBinGoldstein posted on 2010-05-25 9:39:59 ET (2 images) Reply Trace
#146. To: Samuel Gray (#144)
You must hang out in some shit neighborhoods.
#147. To: James Deffenbach (#145)
#148. To: buckeroo (#147)
To pull off a mammoth tragedy like this would have taken hundreds if not thousands of personnel.
#149. To: buckeroo (#147)
(Edited)
To support a thesis based on reality requires not mere suspicion of a given phenomena. It requires supporting facts and a tragedy this large should have produced eye-witnesses by now.
Lord Acton
OsamaBinGoldstein posted on 2010-05-25 9:39:59 ET (2 images) Reply Trace
#150. To: noone222, buckeroo, turtle, critter (#130)
The masses are usually mistaken ... as demonstrated by your post.
#151. To: critter, buckeroo, turtle (#149)
(Edited)
And no other steel-framed skyscraper ever before or since has fallen due to fire damage, though some have burned much longer and hotter.
As an example of the damaging effect of fire on steel, in 1967, the original heavy steel-constructed McCormick Place exhibition hall in Chicago collapsed only 30 minutes after the start of a small electrical fire.”
#152. To: James Deffenbach (#149)
There were millions of "eye witnesses" who saw the Salomon Brothers Building fall into its own footprint in about as close to free fall speed as you could imagine. For those who might not know that is in reference to WTC 7, the building which fell even though no plane hit it. And no other steel-framed skyscraper ever before or since has fallen due to fire damage, though some have burned much longer and hotter.
#153. To: James Deffenbach, FormerLurker, IRTorqued, Flintlock, Original_Intent, farmfriend, buckeroo, turtle, critter (#142)
Sixty- four percent of the respondents said that aliens have contacted humans,
Half said they've abducted humans, and
37 percent said they have contacted the U.S. government. The collapse of the twin towers in New York was aided by explosives secretly planted in the two buildings"
• 10% "somewhat likely"
• 6% "very likely"[13]
#154. To: buckeroo (#152)
Did you write this? If not, I want a hot link to the comment.
Lord Acton
OsamaBinGoldstein posted on 2010-05-25 9:39:59 ET (2 images) Reply Trace
#155. To: James Deffenbach, turtle, critter, buckeroo (#154)
(Edited)
Yes, I did write it and it's true. It was falling?
"See the way it's leaning over like that? It's definitely gonna fall. There's no way to stop it...You have to go up in there to put it out..but the structural integrity is not there."
#156. To: James Deffenbach (#154)
It was falling?
#157. To: AGAviator (#155)
#158. To: buckeroo (#156)
Yes. It was planned anyway and was largely vacated other than a few management offices.
Lord Acton
OsamaBinGoldstein posted on 2010-05-25 9:39:59 ET (2 images) Reply Trace
#159. To: James Deffenbach (#158)
And they were designed to withstand the impact of the planes so that is a non starter.
#160. To: buckeroo (#157)
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Good post @155 by yourself.
#161. To: AGAviator (#160)
#162. To: buckeroo (#159)
Lord Acton
OsamaBinGoldstein posted on 2010-05-25 9:39:59 ET (2 images) Reply Trace
#163. To: James Deffenbach (#162)
Anyone who believes that stupid $#it the government put out might as well give up.
#164. To: AGAviator (#150)
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