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Title: Why I Don't Have Any Use for Truthers
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Published: Jul 9, 2010
Author: Turtle
Post Date: 2010-07-09 11:35:19 by Turtle
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Poster Comment: This woman had sulfuric acid thrown in her face by guess who? Someone engaging in Typical Negro Behavior. They do this out of envy. "I can't get this woman, so nobody can have her." He got life in prison. These are the real problems, not hallucinations abour remote-controlled airplanes and bombs in towers.
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#14. To: Turdle, Turtle, christine, AllTheKingsHorses, all (#0)
So Turdle, are you and Hal Turner close friends? Any handlers in common? Isn't it amazing what some people will do for money? Oh, by the way I've seen the blonde's picture before in a different context. The other readily apparent difference is that the ears are not the same. Ears are a distinctive feature on a lot of people. Despite the damage to her face they should bear at least some resemblance, but the structure is not at all the same. I notice also that you did not provide a URL source. I'm calling Bullshit unless you can provide a source Got Agitprop?
I notice also that you did not provide a URL source. I'm calling Bullshit unless you can provide a source Got Agitprop? Typical denial mode of a classic CT windbag fuckwit. Harping on minutiae, using self-proclaimed expertise to allege the evidence isn't credible, then using prefab denials citing self as authoritative expert, to dismiss the subject out of hand. And throwing in a little scatological dig ("Turdle") in the process. Here's the link, maroon. Now what do you have to say?
I can recall news reports of similar events, they are rare, where the perp was white. All this proves is that there is at least one deranged ex-boyfriend in the world. It proves absolutely nothing else. I take it you guys are trying to divert from the other thread where you had your heads handed to you on that stupid conspiracy theory about "19ArabsWhoHateUsCuzWe'reFree" being directed by a mad mullah in a cave in the remote mountains of far Afghanistan with his Magic Cellphone© that were able to hijack 4 airliners, without one of them giving a 4 digit 2 second hijack code, with box cutters and then leisurely joyride in the most controlled and monitored airspace on the planet and then with the precision of Master Pilots (which is pretty slick since they were all known incompetents as pilots and had never flown anything larger than a single engine propeller driven Cessna 172) fly them around for two hours without being intercepted, then with precision fly them into major buildings {and even more miraculously they able to take down 3 Buildings with 2 planes in new york - and presumably the "Psychic Friends Network was on the phone to both CNN and BBC as both reported the collapse of building 7 before it happened, as well despite a minimum of 13 warnings from other foreign intelligence agencies the government had no clue that such an event could be considered or possibly happen (as per White House Spokesliar Ari Fourflusher at a White House News Conference, despite having two years earlier recovered a hard drive from the Phillipines which detailed this exact scenario)}. You conspiracy kooks are just too rich.
Although off-point and a distraction, your claims of "19ArabsWhoHateUsCuzWe'reFree" will be rebutted herein just to show how defective your fact-finding and mental processing apparatus are. During October 2004, Bin Ladin himself appeared on al Al Qaeda TV broadcast addressing this issue and explicitly said that if this were the case, why did al Qaeda not attack Sweden? OBL then went on to explicitly say that US support of Israel was the cause of the 911 attacks, and no other factor. Your response? Deny that the speaker was OBL, citing your own self attributed pud-pulling analytical expertise, and instead attribute the interview to some vague amorphus gubmint "official story" conspiracy - even though the last thing any "official story" will say is that US support of Israel has caused 911. Typical, however. (2) Your OBL "mountain caves" were actually skillfully designed and engineered fighting emplacements and weapons storage sites, intended to protect Afghan guerilla supply routes from Pakistan from incessant Soviet bombing and spetsnaz Special Forces attacks. OBL spent millions of his own and family's money blasting these projects from solid granite, and they were rather successful making Societ air attacks useless, and Soviet Special Forces attacks quite costly. The effect of OBL's "caves" was similar to Hizbollah's "caves" on Israel's 2006 invasion of Southern Lebanon. The vaunted IDF took too many hits and was forced to rethink what it intended to do. Unfortunately for OBL, in 2001 the US was able to counter his cave advantages by repeatedly sending precision satellite bombs down the vents, one after another until a big enough hole was made, and also using precision thermobaric weapons which killed people inside through blast pressure and sucking oxygen from their lungs. The American technological developments in "cave-busting" are the only factors keeping OBL from living in his "caves" to this day. But far from being an ignorant 7th century madman, Bin Ladin was able to develop defensive techniques using modern construction and millions of dollars that worked in 1 war and required a major technological effort to overcome in another. So your "Straw Man offical story" projections begin and end only within your own limited brainspace. They have no relevance to what anybody else is saying or thinking outside your own empty noggin. (3) Far from being ignorant cave-dwellers, the 911 hijacker ringleaders were educated and the principal leader was cited by several instructors as excellent student. OBL did not direct or control them. He couldn't. They lived abroad in free Western societies. As OBL himself says in an interview that you yourself will deny ever happened, OBL gives his role as inspiring others, not directing them, and also providing any needed logistics to do those plans they come up with and attempt to carry out personally. So once again your "Straw Man offical story" projections become null and void once any space beyond your own head is considered. And a brain.
Which has been shown repeatedly to be a fraudulent tape of some actor, who does not even look like a close resemblance to the real Bin Laden, hired to make a bad PsyOps video to justify government actions in murdering millions of people. Since most of the rest of your drivel depends on that phony tape it is not worthy of any further comment.
Typical whack-job denial. The explicit messages on the tape are as follows Your mental miasma needs treatment. Get off the internet and clean out your garbage with some form of a mental laxative.
It doesn't matter what the messages on the tape are. It's not Bin Laden on the tape.
Warning, 2 Different NYFD Fireman Say Building 7 Will Collapse From Existing Damage.
This video I've never seen before. Strange. Something seems fake about it. Why would the firefighter say, "See the way it's leaning over like that? It's definitely gonna fall. There's no way to stop it..." Have you seen it before?
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And why wouldn't just that side of the building fall instead of the whole thing which was clearly, oh most clearly, fallen like a planned demolition? Even the "official" rejects that did the charade 9/11 commission report have no answers. Either way, it's comical how the neocons don't trust the government, but when it comes to "national security" they trust them hook, line, and sinker to the extent that they're afraid of even looking at the actual facts. Yeah, nothing troubling there with their behavior. LOL It's after thoughts like that that I think to myself how 90% of this nation deserves what's coming whether it be serfdom, apocalyptic destruction, or whatever. Exactly, if building 7 were a natural collapse, a catastrophic failure, you would see it slump and tumble over not neatly pancake into its own footprint at a near freefall rate*. What was observed carries all of the signatures of a controlled demolition. The collapse was initiated simultaneously at all 4 corners 360 degrees (which only happens in a controlled demolition) and if you slow the film down and watch the collapse in slow motion you'll notice that two cracks form very early in the collapse - those are located at the left and right perimeter of the central core of the building which, like the twin towers, was an immensely strong structure of heavy steel beams and cross bracing and, based on the film, that is what collapses first the central load bearing structure for the building and then it collapses symmetrically inward with all 4 corners collapsing in the same instant of time - just as one would expect in a controlled demolition. Another thing the shills avoid like the plague is the fact that the central core of the building had been beefed up and hardened so that Bldg. 7 (23rd Floor) could serve as the city's central command center in a catastrophe such as a hurricane or earthquake. So, the structure was actually stronger than the very strong structure that was originally built. Yet at 11 O'clock in the morning Rudy Ghouliani already knew it was going to collapse and the command center was evacuated. He was actually captured in news footage saying so. Rudy has been very disingenuous in that at one of his news conferences about the day of 911 he stated that they had evacuated by 11 A.M. or so because of the risk of the building collapsing, and yet no one at that time was talking about collapse. That was barely 2 hours after the initial event. When confronted later on he tried saying that he did not say that but when confronted with a recording of what he said he didn't have much to say other than to sputter and run. 1. The collapse initiated simultaneously symmetrically in 360 degrees. At time zero, immediately prior to the initiation of collapse, telltale "squibs" of dust/smoke can be seen erupting at the levels coincident with the floors of the building. These are most reasonably explained as the demolition charges going off to turn the structural support to nothing.
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#21. To: turtle, Original_Intent, buckeroo (#14)
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The other readily apparent difference is that the ears are not the same. Ears are a distinctive feature on a lot of people. Despite the damage to her face they should bear at least some resemblance, but the structure is not at all the same.
#24. To: AGAviator, FormerLurker, X-15, wudidiz, James Deffenbach, buckeroo, turdle, christine, all (#21)
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#49. To: Original_Intent, buckeroo, turtle (#24)
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I take it you guys are trying to divert from the other thread where you had your heads handed to you on that stupid conspiracy theory about "19ArabsWhoHateUsCuzWe'reFree" being directed by a mad mullah in a cave in the remote mountains of far Afghanistan with his Magic Cellphone© that were able to hijack 4 airliners
(1) Your "Arabs hate us for our freedoms" mythology is a perfect example of how you project your own mental limitations and ***Straw Man Arguemnts*** onto others who dispute you.
Get a life.
#55. To: AGAviator, all (#49)
During October 2004, Bin Ladin himself appeared on al Al Qaeda TV broadcast addressing this issue and explicitly said that if this were the case, why did al Qaeda not attack Sweden? OBL then went on to explicitly say that US support of Israel was the cause of the 911 attacks, and no other factor.
#92. To: Original_Intent, buckeroo, turtle (#55)
Which has been shown repeatedly to be a fraudulent tape of some actor, who does not even look like a close resemblance to the real Bin Laden, hired to make a bad PsyOps video to justify government actions in murdering millions of people.
(1) America was attacked for its support of Israel, not because of its freedoms, which is why America and not Sweden was attacked,
To allege that statements like this are a product of US government conspiracies, when the actually clearly describe the US government taking a path to its own destruction, shows a wilful denial of reality and lack of cognitive skills too inferior to even be described by words.
(2) America's military-industrial complex is not working in the best interests of the American people,
(3) The al Qaida plan is to bankrupt America through constant worldwide guerilla warfare, said in 2004 when it appeared the US was in a "no quagmire" and "world economic leader" mindset,
(4) By his eagerness to take the al Qaida bait anywhere on the planet, Obama and Bush are both working together for this same goal of US bankruptcy, albeit for different reasons,
(5) "All that we have to do is to send two Mujahideen to the furthest point East to raise a piece of cloth on which is written al-Qaida, in order to make the generals race there to cause America to suffer human, economic, and political losses without their achieving for it anything of note other than some benefits for their private companies,"
(6) "It never occurred to us that the commander-in-chief of the American armed forces would abandon 50 000 of his citizens in the twin towers to face those great horrors alone, the time when they most needed him. But because it seemed to him that occupying himself by talking to the little girl about the goat and its butting was more important than occupying himself with the planes and their butting of the skyscrapers. We were given three times the period required,"
(7) "Your security is not in the hands of Kerry, nor Bush, nor al-Qaida. No. Your security is in your own hands."
#94. To: AGAviator, Original_Intent (#92)
#95. To: All (#94)
#124. To: wudidiz, critter, budkeroo, turtle (#95)
WARNING: AGAviator is a paid government agent who is here to spread disinformation. BEWARE!
#126. To: Original_Intent, FormerLurker, Eric Stratton, IRTorqued, AGAviator, Flintlock, *9-11* (#124)
#132. To: wudidiz (#126)
#198. To: Eric Stratton, wudidiz, James Deffenbach, IRTorqued, Flintlock, X-15, FormerLurker, all (#132)
Why would the firefighter say, "See the way it's leaning over like that? It's definitely gonna fall. There's no way to stop it..."
*Freefall from the top of the building was 6 seconds, and the structure itself collapsed in about 6.5 to 6.6 seconds. There were a few precursor signs a few seconds earlier looking down from the top, but the actual pancake collapse went in 6.6 seconds - less than a seconds difference between freefall and what was observed and recorded. The only way that could conceivably happen is if the central core structure was removed, and the only way to remove it fast enough to allow for all of the characteristics of the collapse is explosive demolition. The key signatures of which were:
2. The simultaneous cracking of the facade two equidistant locations corresponding to interior location of the building's steel beam core.
3. A neat, tidy, symmetrical collapse into its own footprint with NO outward slumping i.e., the building imploded.
4. The complete collapse of the reinforced steel girder core of the building (which was the main load bearing structure).
5. The collapse was complete in barely a half second more than pure freefall with no resistance, other than friction, and the only way that can occur is to remove the heavily reinforced steel girder core, and the only way to do that fast enough to account for the other signatures is explosive demolition.
#202. To: Original_Intent (#198)
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