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Title: Why I Don't Have Any Use for Truthers
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Published: Jul 9, 2010
Author: Turtle
Post Date: 2010-07-09 11:35:19 by Turtle
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Poster Comment: This woman had sulfuric acid thrown in her face by guess who? Someone engaging in Typical Negro Behavior. They do this out of envy. "I can't get this woman, so nobody can have her." He got life in prison. These are the real problems, not hallucinations abour remote-controlled airplanes and bombs in towers.
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#221. To: buckeroo (#216)
ROTFL..... the conjecture, the spontaneity, the "off-the-top" .... it just doesn't get better than this. No wonder I don't watch television anymore. Of course it's conjecture. It is simply one attempt to set the facts into a framework that makes sense. It is simply one possible hypothesis and I did not, and do not, label it as a dead certainty. However, we are dealing with people who are NEVER on the up an up and so it requires a little old fashioned skull sweat to try and figure out what they are really up to.
"One of the least understood strategies of the world revolution now moving rapidly toward its goal is the use of mind control as a major means of obtaining the consent of the people who will be subjects of the New World Order." K.M. Heaton, The National Educator
What facts?
"we ought to lay off the criticism" -- Pinguinite, circa 2010-05-26 22:17:22 ET
Go stick it where the Sun don't shine. The very night that fucking bitch placed my personal data on the Internet, my home was shot at, not once but several times. She is a harbinger of animosity and despair; a little Hitler. Testy, testy. I got it. I'm not saying she is a saint or that you are not right in your conclusion. I simply pointed out that there was no hard evidence beyond your dislike and distrust. I have no idea as to what has gone betwixt you. I simply made a logical statement based on the available, at that time, evidence. Oh, and I'm not that kind of boy.
"One of the least understood strategies of the world revolution now moving rapidly toward its goal is the use of mind control as a major means of obtaining the consent of the people who will be subjects of the New World Order." K.M. Heaton, The National Educator
GO AWAY JEW TURTLE!
God is always good!
wouldn't that place be elpee for the most part?
If THEY didn't do it, then WHO did? Never heard of false ID's by people planning to do a criminal acts, stolen passports, similar Arabic names analogous to "John Smith" which thousands of people have, and confusion within bureaucracies? 911 Myths: Hijackers Still Alive 2002: After Investigation, Saudi Arabia Acknowledges 15 of 19 Hijackers were Saudi Citizens Previously, Saudi Arabia had said the citizenship of 15 of the 19 hijackers was in doubt despite U.S. insistence they were Saudis. But Interior Minister Prince Nayef told The Associated Press that Saudi leaders were shocked to learn 15 of the hijackers were from Saudi Arabia. "The names that we got confirmed that," Nayef said in an interview. "Their families have been notified." http://www.usatoday.com/news/world/2002/02/06/saudi.htm ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ One of the major consequences of the 9/11 movement has been to draw enormous amounts of energy and effort away from activism directed to real and ongoing crimes of state, and their institutional background, crimes that are far more serious than blowing up the WTC would be, if there were any credibility to that thesis. That is, I suspect, why the 9/11 movement is treated far more tolerantly by centers of power than is the norm for serious critical and activist work. Noam Chomsky
Or framed another way, it's been proven that the 'official' 911 narrative contains contradictory information. It cannot possibly be entirely true, therefor the only reasonable course would be to investigate those discrepancies. In other words, Bob, why are your panties in such a bunch over this?
"The people in power will not disappear voluntarily, giving flowers to the cops just isn't going to work. This thinking is fostered by the establishment; they like nothing better than love and nonviolence. The only way I like to see cops given flowers is in a flower pot from a high window.” - William S Burroughs
most folks know that at the time Jackalope and I (besides hundreds of other American loving patriots) went to the AZ border... as a result of Chris Simcox's many pleas through a number of networks. That bitch sat on her ass and scoffed at us. She drove a stake in the heart of the Minuteman movement as she is some sort of board member in the "Americanborderpatrol." That jealous bitch, fucked a lot of people up with her lies and slanderous BS besides scurrilousness, clandestine activities. BTW, why are you so interested? Don't you have a garden to attend to?
"we ought to lay off the criticism" -- Pinguinite, circa 2010-05-26 22:17:22 ET
Thoughtful post, IMHO.
"Satan / Cheney in "08" You are privy to the public record as much as I. However, It took his illustrious Obamessiahship 3 weeks to even notice the Oilcano beyond sending SWAT teams out to all the rigs in the area (I don't know what to make of that other than it is a counterintuitive response to an oil disaster). The Coast Guard has been Bee Pee's "boy". Oh'bummer turned down at least 13 separate offers of aid. We have been lied to repeatedly. All Air Monitoring in the Gulf has ceased public reporting. The EPA is doing nothing about the use of Corexit even though it is 4 to 5 times more toxic than the oil. Last I heard they had used somewhere in the vicinity of 1.5 million gallons of the shit in order to keep the majority of the oil erupting out of BP's hole from hitting the ocean surface.
"One of the least understood strategies of the world revolution now moving rapidly toward its goal is the use of mind control as a major means of obtaining the consent of the people who will be subjects of the New World Order." K.M. Heaton, The National Educator
I'm not going to dispute that but to have someone killed takes a pull she doesn't possess. She is not the mob, she is not someone with money or power. She is not a gang member. It is just not that easy to have someone killed.
Name calling is juvenile.
They wouldn't let the states build sand berms to protect the marshes but they'll let them use this toxic stuff. Sure puts the lie to the idea that they are protecting the environment.
Name calling is juvenile.
the devil in the details, ag wanted to be the smoking hot dog turd but alas all he is is a cold kernel of corn in said turd.
I can see you've studied the issues closely. /sarcasm I can see you've been reduced to nit picking and pettifogging over spelling minutiae in place of issues, Six Percenter. I show an explicit video of a New York City fireman saying the WTC7 building is going down, and "There's no way to stop it...the structural integrity is not there," several hours before the building actually collapsed. Your reply is "You didn't post the name of the New York City Fire Department the way I want to see it, and you have a one letter typo" Now if you could only leverage that into raising your acceptance of "Controlled demolitions by the USG brought down by the WTC" population to maybe 10%, you'd be making some progress. BWAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!! You've been pwned by the New York City fireman video I posted explicitly prediciting collapse from serious damage and uncontrolled fires hours before WTC 7 actually went down. Now instead of being a man and acknowledging you've been wrong, you go into denial and spelling nit pick mode.
------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ One of the major consequences of the 9/11 movement has been to draw enormous amounts of energy and effort away from activism directed to real and ongoing crimes of state, and their institutional background, crimes that are far more serious than blowing up the WTC would be, if there were any credibility to that thesis. That is, I suspect, why the 9/11 movement is treated far more tolerantly by centers of power than is the norm for serious critical and activist work. Noam Chomsky
I'm chronically curious. I've heard you talk about it before and remember you having words with melissa when she was posting here. As for the garden it is doing wonderful. Despite a cool wet spring I should be getting my first Cherry Tomatoes withing the next couple of weeks. The bigger ones will start following that along with the summer squash and then the melons. I'm harvesting Snap Peas and Broccoli now.
"One of the least understood strategies of the world revolution now moving rapidly toward its goal is the use of mind control as a major means of obtaining the consent of the people who will be subjects of the New World Order." K.M. Heaton, The National Educator
cry with your straw-man argument, it is all you will ever have.
What about the video itself, spelling pettifogger?
------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ One of the major consequences of the 9/11 movement has been to draw enormous amounts of energy and effort away from activism directed to real and ongoing crimes of state, and their institutional background, crimes that are far more serious than blowing up the WTC would be, if there were any credibility to that thesis. That is, I suspect, why the 9/11 movement is treated far more tolerantly by centers of power than is the norm for serious critical and activist work. Noam Chomsky
Thanks Tom. Always good to see you. American government (irrespective of level) may have created all sorts of laws and taxes restraining energy mining in America but the shift for energy need went to where the oil was and is. As a nation, we did not address the fundamental issues. And as a result we have parlayed the roles and responsibilities for our needs into the US military guarding OUR oil under their sand.
"we ought to lay off the criticism" -- Pinguinite, circa 2010-05-26 22:17:22 ET
Not even close. I am reduced to pointing out that you are an idiot who has hissy fits over things he obviously hasn't spent much time studying. As for your childish rant to cover up your ignorance: Do have a nice day.
"One of the least understood strategies of the world revolution now moving rapidly toward its goal is the use of mind control as a major means of obtaining the consent of the people who will be subjects of the New World Order." K.M. Heaton, The National Educator
I was thinking more like DU but it could apply equally to some faction of posters at LP and most certainly to FR.
Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end. He (Gordon Duff) also implies that forcibly removing Obama, a Constitution-hating, on-the-down-low, crackhead Communist, is an attack on America, Mom, and apple pie. I swear these military people are worse than useless. Just look around at the condition of the country and tell me if they have fulfilled their oaths to protect the nation from all enemies foreign and domestic. Me cry, Six Percenter? Who are the pinheads who live in a population that has many time more believers UFO abductions and Elvis sightings than in, "USG controlled demolitions brought down the WTC Buildings," and who have failed in nearly nine years to elect a single public official stating the 911 CT's are true? Or get a single Obama BC lawsuit to proceed to discovery and interrogatories, let alone trial. Or say "They're paying aggravator to post to us six percent losers?" No pinheads. I post to you because you attack me for trying to show you the truth. And for the lot of you being a circus freakshow taking attention from serious issues. The only ***crying*** you're ever gonna see from me is laughing so hard that tears come to my eyes.
------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ One of the major consequences of the 9/11 movement has been to draw enormous amounts of energy and effort away from activism directed to real and ongoing crimes of state, and their institutional background, crimes that are far more serious than blowing up the WTC would be, if there were any credibility to that thesis. That is, I suspect, why the 9/11 movement is treated far more tolerantly by centers of power than is the norm for serious critical and activist work. Noam Chomsky
Or framed another way, it's been proven that the 'official' 911 narrative contains contradictory information. It cannot possibly be entirely true, therefor the only reasonable course would be to investigate those discrepancies. In other words, Bob, why are your panties in such a bunch over this? Excellent points, but alas the Kool-Aid Drinkers are incapable of admitting even the most egregious and obvious errors and misrepresentations. And every time the "Offcial Conspiracy Theory™" changes it is like Orwell time: "Oceana has always been at war with Eurasia". So, whenever the story is changed to paper over one of the flaws it becomes retroactively "the way its always been".
"One of the least understood strategies of the world revolution now moving rapidly toward its goal is the use of mind control as a major means of obtaining the consent of the people who will be subjects of the New World Order." K.M. Heaton, The National Educator
"we ought to lay off the criticism" -- Pinguinite, circa 2010-05-26 22:17:22 ET buckeroo posted on 2010-07-10 18:12:12 ET Reply Trace Private Reply What..........???????
"Satan / Cheney in "08" Which is exactly where the $#it needs to go so that the skimmer boats can get it! And breaking it up into smaller and smaller blobs, what a brain dead idea that is.
Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end. He (Gordon Duff) also implies that forcibly removing Obama, a Constitution-hating, on-the-down-low, crackhead Communist, is an attack on America, Mom, and apple pie. I swear these military people are worse than useless. Just look around at the condition of the country and tell me if they have fulfilled their oaths to protect the nation from all enemies foreign and domestic. That's what Crap-n-Raid is for - to save the planet (or what's left of it when Bee Pee is done).
"One of the least understood strategies of the world revolution now moving rapidly toward its goal is the use of mind control as a major means of obtaining the consent of the people who will be subjects of the New World Order." K.M. Heaton, The National Educator
Which is exactly where the $#it needs to go so that the skimmer boats can get it! And breaking it up into smaller and smaller blobs, what a brain dead idea that is. It's called controlling the public, and destroying the environment. Purely intentional I do believe.
"One of the least understood strategies of the world revolution now moving rapidly toward its goal is the use of mind control as a major means of obtaining the consent of the people who will be subjects of the New World Order." K.M. Heaton, The National Educator
Soil and Water Assesment Teams (or Tools, I have heard both).
"Satan / Cheney in "08" all you've done is cry like a little school girl, you've got nothing.
Is my explicit video of an NY City Fireman totally sending your k00k theories of controlled demolition of WTC 7 down the toilet a hissy fit, pettifogger? Just how much time do I need to ***study*** a fireman on scene saying "The building's going down. There's no way to stop it. The structural integrity is not there." Anything about those words you can't understand as quickly as they're spoken, contrary to the garbage dump of k00kclaims you've littered the entire internet with? The video message is where you get pwned. Not what I call a NY City fireman. BWAHAHAHAHA. Pettifogging loser.
------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ One of the major consequences of the 9/11 movement has been to draw enormous amounts of energy and effort away from activism directed to real and ongoing crimes of state, and their institutional background, crimes that are far more serious than blowing up the WTC would be, if there were any credibility to that thesis. That is, I suspect, why the 9/11 movement is treated far more tolerantly by centers of power than is the norm for serious critical and activist work. Noam Chomsky
The only ***crying*** you're ever gonna see from me is laughing so hard at you Six Percenters that tears come to my eyes.
------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ One of the major consequences of the 9/11 movement has been to draw enormous amounts of energy and effort away from activism directed to real and ongoing crimes of state, and their institutional background, crimes that are far more serious than blowing up the WTC would be, if there were any credibility to that thesis. That is, I suspect, why the 9/11 movement is treated far more tolerantly by centers of power than is the norm for serious critical and activist work. Noam Chomsky
I think Simcox did that himself with his lies. He showed himself to be nothing other than a Jackson style con artist.
Name calling is juvenile.
And you came to possess this specialized knowledge how?
"Satan / Cheney in "08" You do have a way with words.
Name calling is juvenile.
your retort much like yourself is pointless
You'll have to be a little more specific, and much less precocious.
"The people in power will not disappear voluntarily, giving flowers to the cops just isn't going to work. This thinking is fostered by the establishment; they like nothing better than love and nonviolence. The only way I like to see cops given flowers is in a flower pot from a high window.” - William S Burroughs
I'm relying on common sense. Why? Do you have evidence to dispute it?
Name calling is juvenile.
You seem to have a habit of replying to posts you deem ***pointles*** doncha, Six Percenter?
------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ One of the major consequences of the 9/11 movement has been to draw enormous amounts of energy and effort away from activism directed to real and ongoing crimes of state, and their institutional background, crimes that are far more serious than blowing up the WTC would be, if there were any credibility to that thesis. That is, I suspect, why the 9/11 movement is treated far more tolerantly by centers of power than is the norm for serious critical and activist work. Noam Chomsky
You mean any of THESE NY City Firemen?
Didn't Jackelope die of a major stroke or some massive cancer attack?
------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ One of the major consequences of the 9/11 movement has been to draw enormous amounts of energy and effort away from activism directed to real and ongoing crimes of state, and their institutional background, crimes that are far more serious than blowing up the WTC would be, if there were any credibility to that thesis. That is, I suspect, why the 9/11 movement is treated far more tolerantly by centers of power than is the norm for serious critical and activist work. Noam Chomsky
I am pretty sure that the actual policy was something along the line of, - let's use their oil while it's cheap, and now we have a entire society that has to use petro everyday. Or they will soon panic and starve. And we have learned in Tehran in 1954 that's it's easy to manipulate the ME tribes into economic colonization.
"Satan / Cheney in "08"
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#222. To: Original_Intent (#221)
It is simply one attempt to set the facts into a framework that makes sense.
#223. To: buckeroo (#220)
.. but no hard evidence.
#224. To: Turtle (#0)
#225. To: James Deffenbach (#200)
I think buck, aggravator and the turtle need to try their "gubmint wouldn't do such a thing" out on someone else, some other site. Maybe they can find a site where only mental patients with IQ's of 38 or lower are allowed to play with the computers. They might be able to make them believe such twaddle.
computer counted ballots are ballots that have been counted in secret, and with all probability not the way one voted.
#226. To: FormerLurker (#179)
Hey genius, explain something to me. Why are some of these so-called "9/11 hijackers" still alive and well?
The "still alive" claim has a powerful list of supporters, then, and so you might expect it to be supported with a substantial amount of evidence. But then you'd be disappointed, because there is nothing of the kind. In fact the claim is only sustainable because not a single one of its proponents actually tells you all the details you need to know.
Saudi Arabia acknowledged for the first time that 15 of the Sept. 11 suicide hijackers were Saudi citizens...
#227. To: Original_Intent, Turtle (#221)
Of course it's conjecture. It is simply one attempt to set the facts into a framework that makes sense. It is simply one possible hypothesis and I did not, and do not, label it as a dead certainty.
#228. To: Original_Intent (#223)
I have no idea as to what has gone betwixt you.
#229. To: buckeroo (#147)
But, we lack a need to modify our dependence on oil just yet. We have BP and deepwater technologies to thank for that.
#230. To: buckeroo (#222)
#231. To: buckeroo, Original_Intent (#206)
mel_giving was a devious, nasty bitch fucking around anyone that confronted her.
#232. To: Original_Intent (#230)
The EPA is doing nothing about the use of Corexit even though it is 4 to 5 times more toxic than the oil. Last I heard they had used somewhere in the vicinity of 1.5 million gallons of the shit in order to keep the majority of the oil erupting out of BP's hole from hitting the ocean surface.
#233. To: Dakmar (#211)
computer counted ballots are ballots that have been counted in secret, and with all probability not the way one voted.
#234. To: Original_Intent, buckeroo, turtle, critter (#212)
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The correct appellation is "FDNY" or Fire Department New York.
#235. To: buckeroo (#228)
BTW, why are you so interested? Don't you have a garden to attend to?
#236. To: AGAviator (#219)
computer counted ballots are ballots that have been counted in secret, and with all probability not the way one voted.
#237. To: Dakmar (#211)
It's my understanding that NYC's fire department is officially FDNY, which I thought a bit odd, but why didn't you know that?
#238. To: tom007 (#229)
#239. To: AGAviator (#234)
I can see you've been reduced to nit picking and pettifogging over spelling minutiae in place of issues, Six Percenter.
#240. To: IRTorqued (#225)
wouldn't that place be elpee for the most part?
Lord Acton
OsamaBinGoldstein posted on 2010-05-25 9:39:59 ET (2 images) Reply Trace
#241. To: IRTorqued, turtle, buckeroo (#236)
cry with your straw-man argument
#242. To: Dakmar, Turdle, all (#227)
Of course it's conjecture. It is simply one attempt to set the facts into a framework that makes sense. It is simply one possible hypothesis and I did not, and do not, label it as a dead certainty.
#243. To: buckeroo (#204)
She lived not too far away, either.... and probably had one of her illegal friends do her dirty deed. And she tried to have me murdered as well.
#244. To: Original_Intent (#230)
The EPA is doing nothing about the use of Corexit even though it is 4 to 5 times more toxic than the oil. Last I heard they had used somewhere in the vicinity of 1.5 million gallons of the shit in order to keep the majority of the oil erupting out of BP's hole from hitting the ocean surface.
Lord Acton
OsamaBinGoldstein posted on 2010-05-25 9:39:59 ET (2 images) Reply Trace
#245. To: farmfriend (#232)
They wouldn't let the states build sand berms to protect the marshes but they'll let them use this toxic stuff. Sure puts the lie to the idea that they are protecting the environment.
#246. To: James Deffenbach (#244)
The EPA is doing nothing about the use of Corexit even though it is 4 to 5 times more toxic than the oil. Last I heard they had used somewhere in the vicinity of 1.5 million gallons of the shit in order to keep the majority of the oil erupting out of BP's hole from hitting the ocean surface.
#247. To: Original_Intent (#230)
eyond sending SWAT teams
#248. To: AGAviator (#241)
computer counted ballots are ballots that have been counted in secret, and with all probability not the way one voted.
#249. To: Original_Intent, buckeroo, turtle (#239)
I am reduced to pointing out that you are an idiot who has hissy fits over things he obviously hasn't spent much time studying.
#250. To: IRTorqued (#248)
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#251. To: buckeroo, Original_Intent (#228)
She drove a stake in the heart of the Minuteman movement
#252. To: farmfriend (#231)
She is not a gang member. It is just not that easy to have someone killed.
#253. To: Original_Intent (#245)
That's what Crap-n-Raid is for - to save the planet
#254. To: AGAviator (#250)
computer counted ballots are ballots that have been counted in secret, and with all probability not the way one voted.
#255. To: AGAviator (#237)
What about the video itself, spelling pettifogger?
#256. To: tom007 (#252)
And you came to possess this specialized knowledge how?
#257. To: IRTorqued (#254)
your retort much like yourself is pointless
#258. To: AGAviator (#249)
Is my explicit video of an NY City Fireman totally sending your k00k theories of controlled demolition of WTC 7 down the toilet a hissy fit, pettifogger?
"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
#259. To: Dakmar (#255)
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pettifogger
#260. To: buckeroo (#204)
Mel hated Jackalope as he time and time and time again kicked her teeth in for being a fucked-upped pundit.
#261. To: buckeroo (#238)
As a nation, we did not address the fundamental issues.
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