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Title: Why I Don't Have Any Use for Truthers
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Published: Jul 9, 2010
Author: Turtle
Post Date: 2010-07-09 11:35:19 by Turtle
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Poster Comment: This woman had sulfuric acid thrown in her face by guess who? Someone engaging in Typical Negro Behavior. They do this out of envy. "I can't get this woman, so nobody can have her." He got life in prison. These are the real problems, not hallucinations abour remote-controlled airplanes and bombs in towers.
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#282. To: Dakmar (#276)
and whatever rhymes with eloquent... :) Malignant? "One of the least understood strategies of the world revolution now moving rapidly toward its goal is the use of mind control as a major means of obtaining the consent of the people who will be subjects of the New World Order." K.M. Heaton, The National Educator
So, I guess that leaves you out. Yes, Indent, I suppose that's why you addressed the post to me. ROTFLAMO
------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ One of the major consequences of the 9/11 movement has been to draw enormous amounts of energy and effort away from activism directed to real and ongoing crimes of state, and their institutional background, crimes that are far more serious than blowing up the WTC would be, if there were any credibility to that thesis. That is, I suspect, why the 9/11 movement is treated far more tolerantly by centers of power than is the norm for serious critical and activist work. Noam Chomsky
Sprinkle some 50 cent words to try to show you're "erudite" instead of "Keep It Simple Stupid." This from the goober that has used "pettifoggery" "The people in power will not disappear voluntarily, giving flowers to the cops just isn't going to work. This thinking is fostered by the establishment; they like nothing better than love and nonviolence. The only way I like to see cops given flowers is in a flower pot from a high window.” - William S Burroughs
Not about secondary blasts fed by uncontrolled fires, or explosion-like sounds caused by load shiftings or major structural failures. Translation: He didn't read the references. Facts make his head hurt.
"One of the least understood strategies of the world revolution now moving rapidly toward its goal is the use of mind control as a major means of obtaining the consent of the people who will be subjects of the New World Order." K.M. Heaton, The National Educator
The North Tower collapsed at 10:28, after being struck at 8:46. It burned for 102 minutes, still short of the "several hours" you claim. Which makes your claims of the crashes not playing any factor in the subsequent collapses even less supportable. Nice job of rebutting yourself.
------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ One of the major consequences of the 9/11 movement has been to draw enormous amounts of energy and effort away from activism directed to real and ongoing crimes of state, and their institutional background, crimes that are far more serious than blowing up the WTC would be, if there were any credibility to that thesis. That is, I suspect, why the 9/11 movement is treated far more tolerantly by centers of power than is the norm for serious critical and activist work. Noam Chomsky
So according to you, all of those deceased NYFD firemen on those tapes were low level incompetent idiots, eh?
Nice job of rebutting yourself. I just proved you were full of shit, yet you claim I "rebutted myself"? Are you on drugs?
Are you on drugs? You're now stating that the crashes and subsequent building collapses happened within under a couple hours but are totally unrelated. What are you on, Six Percenter?
------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ One of the major consequences of the 9/11 movement has been to draw enormous amounts of energy and effort away from activism directed to real and ongoing crimes of state, and their institutional background, crimes that are far more serious than blowing up the WTC would be, if there were any credibility to that thesis. That is, I suspect, why the 9/11 movement is treated far more tolerantly by centers of power than is the norm for serious critical and activist work. Noam Chomsky
Sprinkle some 50 cent words to try to show you're "erudite" instead of "Keep It Simple Stupid." This from the goober that has used "pettifoggery" twice thrice on the same thread. Oh, that's OK he makes up for it by not knowing what it means.
"One of the least understood strategies of the world revolution now moving rapidly toward its goal is the use of mind control as a major means of obtaining the consent of the people who will be subjects of the New World Order." K.M. Heaton, The National Educator
Pointless to talk to that asshat !
Resolve to serve no more, and you are at once freed. I do not ask that you place hands upon the tyrant to topple him over, but simply that you support him no longer; then you will behold him, like a great Colossus whose pedestal has been pulled away, fall of his own weight and break in pieces
Nice job of rebutting yourself. I just proved you were full of shit, yet you claim I "rebutted myself"? Are you on drugs? Nah, CENTCOM tests their posters for drugs all the time. To Aggravator: RIGHT PRIVATE!?
"One of the least understood strategies of the world revolution now moving rapidly toward its goal is the use of mind control as a major means of obtaining the consent of the people who will be subjects of the New World Order." K.M. Heaton, The National Educator
I think their heads explode after a few months.
"The people in power will not disappear voluntarily, giving flowers to the cops just isn't going to work. This thinking is fostered by the establishment; they like nothing better than love and nonviolence. The only way I like to see cops given flowers is in a flower pot from a high window.” - William S Burroughs
So, I guess that leaves you out. Yes, Indent, I suppose that's why you addressed the post to me. Noblesse Oblige.
"One of the least understood strategies of the world revolution now moving rapidly toward its goal is the use of mind control as a major means of obtaining the consent of the people who will be subjects of the New World Order." K.M. Heaton, The National Educator
Sprinkle some 50 cent words to try to show you're "erudite" instead of "Keep It Simple Stupid." O_I is great fun and fan fare, isn't he?
"we ought to lay off the criticism" -- Pinguinite, circa 2010-05-26 22:17:22 ET
You stated that there were "uncontrolled fires fed by tens of thousands of diesel fuel burning through an office building for several hours" What I've shown is not only have you lied, but that you can't even admit when you're wrong and then claim that you've somehow "proven" something.
It's fun to practice my shill slapping skills every now and then... :)
There are a LOT of REAL experts who strongly disagree with what you're selling there pal... Here's a small sample of them from Patriots for 9/11 Truth Daniel B. Barnum, FAIA David Paul Helpern, FAIA What is your background to make a claim like this? Have you been in any military organization existing in the past century or for that matter, this century that ensures you can make a viable statement like that? Answer the question without going off topic. You can click on my Internet handle to see I have background.
"we ought to lay off the criticism" -- Pinguinite, circa 2010-05-26 22:17:22 ET
Ah, but they HAVE given them LSD in the past...
he can't he and his pals of the liar movement get fined for straying off the authorized list of official government fairy tale "fact" sheet.
You know, sometimes there are assholes that don't know nada from time to time. And the more I see your attempt to make a publick post ... IT IS YOU!
"we ought to lay off the criticism" -- Pinguinite, circa 2010-05-26 22:17:22 ET
What is your background to make a claim like this? Have you been in any military organization existing in the past century or for that matter, this century that ensures you can make a viable statement like that? Answer the question without going off topic. You can click on my Internet handle to see I have background. Uh, buck? I'm a Vet. I know from first hand experience. Random drug testing is the rule for everyone. Of course when certain senior officers get caught the test is declared invalid, but that's the military for you.
"One of the least understood strategies of the world revolution now moving rapidly toward its goal is the use of mind control as a major means of obtaining the consent of the people who will be subjects of the New World Order." K.M. Heaton, The National Educator
he has proven one thing; that he is happy to perpetuate a lie that has caused the deaths of an untold/unknowable number of people and will continue to spread the lie until the nation collapses from the weight of the scum he and his ilk lift up praise.
More than likely. I imagine you've noticed the same as I have i.e., that if you are dealing with a real shill they will never, never, never, never, never, admit that any particular of the "Official Fairy Tale©" could even conceivably be incorrect no matter what evidence is presented. Which is why I don't bother citing references for them most of the time unless it serves my point. They won't read them, but the lurkers might.
"One of the least understood strategies of the world revolution now moving rapidly toward its goal is the use of mind control as a major means of obtaining the consent of the people who will be subjects of the New World Order." K.M. Heaton, The National Educator
Ah, but they HAVE given them LSD in the past... Among other things. Thankfully, as near as I know, the only thing I ever had used on me was Tear Gas during boot camp, and that was just to prove to us that the Gas Masks did work.
"One of the least understood strategies of the world revolution now moving rapidly toward its goal is the use of mind control as a major means of obtaining the consent of the people who will be subjects of the New World Order." K.M. Heaton, The National Educator
strike a nerve did I bucky?
Oh BS... during Vietnam there was no drug testing. Let me see your "vet experience" .. describe it to me and the channel, pal'; I want your military experience detail ... AND you are awesome about using poly-syllables on a mere chit chat channel describing your personal feelings. During Vietnam, there was no such thing about consistent methods within the military to perform random drug testing. NONE.
"we ought to lay off the criticism" -- Pinguinite, circa 2010-05-26 22:17:22 ET
Not at all. You are distracting the thread from the main topic banner.
"we ought to lay off the criticism" -- Pinguinite, circa 2010-05-26 22:17:22 ET
CENTCOM wasn't established until 1983, well after US involvement in Vietnam.
"The people in power will not disappear voluntarily, giving flowers to the cops just isn't going to work. This thinking is fostered by the establishment; they like nothing better than love and nonviolence. The only way I like to see cops given flowers is in a flower pot from a high window.” - William S Burroughs
the main topic being you and the rest of the liar movement must defend the official fairy tale at all costs.
Yep. He should have a bumper sticker on his car that says "traitors for 9/11 lies"...
while going through A school Oct. '80 to Mar '81 the policy then was only persons under 25 years of age were in the "hat" for random selection for operation golden flow with full on everybody is in the mix for random testing started in late '82. from '99 up until I retired in '03 I'd bug the piss coordinator if I could give a sample due to the plethora of drugs I'd been prescribed for a couple crushed disc at L4 and L5.
Learn to spell. You believe in little purple faeries. Who knows how you consider placing your overly used false chompers under a pillow awaiting a faerie to alight you with a single coin for tomorrow's promises you don't believe in your self. It is your problem.
"we ought to lay off the criticism" -- Pinguinite, circa 2010-05-26 22:17:22 ET
even without a bumper sticker anyone with a shred of common sense can see him and his fellow travelers of the liar movement coming from miles. bucky seems upset no one will acknowledge his status as a paid shill for the official fairy tale.
Yeah. I like that shapeshifting factoid. There was no squabble about CONUS or OCONUS was there despite the recently or relatively changed command posts.
"we ought to lay off the criticism" -- Pinguinite, circa 2010-05-26 22:17:22 ET
is that why you wake up with a quarter in your teeth and jiz dripping from your bung?
How the FUCK would you know?
"we ought to lay off the criticism" -- Pinguinite, circa 2010-05-26 22:17:22 ET
LOL!
Oh it is phunney as you suggest some sort of queer strategy about my comments and my personal dignity, 'eh lamer?
"we ought to lay off the criticism" -- Pinguinite, circa 2010-05-26 22:17:22 ET
I'm talking about WTC 7 ("an office building"), supposed to be your prime candidate as evidence for CD's. WTC 7 had more than 20,000 gallons feeding an uninterruped power supply with self-contained pumps continually pushing the diesel through a severed feed line until all tanks were totally empty.
------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ One of the major consequences of the 9/11 movement has been to draw enormous amounts of energy and effort away from activism directed to real and ongoing crimes of state, and their institutional background, crimes that are far more serious than blowing up the WTC would be, if there were any credibility to that thesis. That is, I suspect, why the 9/11 movement is treated far more tolerantly by centers of power than is the norm for serious critical and activist work. Noam Chomsky
LOL!
Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end. He (Gordon Duff) also implies that forcibly removing Obama, a Constitution-hating, on-the-down-low, crackhead Communist, is an attack on America, Mom, and apple pie. I swear these military people are worse than useless. Just look around at the condition of the country and tell me if they have fulfilled their oaths to protect the nation from all enemies foreign and domestic.
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#283. To: Original_Intent (#280)
I'm not writing for the stupid.
#284. To: AGAviator, Original_Intent (#277)
Ah yes, here comes Original_Indent Tactic #2.
twice thrice on the same thread.
#285. To: AGAviator, all (#281)
Unfortunately for you the discussion is supposed to be about controlled demolitions explosions immediately bringing the buildings down.
#286. To: FormerLurker (#274)
Besides, the South Tower collapsed at 9:59, and was struck at 9:03, so the fires in that building only burned for 56 minutes, not even an hour, far short of the "several hours" you toss around as if it were fact.
#287. To: AGAviator (#265)
And Kevin Ryan was a low level employee fired for incompetence
"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
#288. To: AGAviator (#286)
Which makes your claims of the crashes not playing any factor in the subsequent collapses even less supportable.
"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
#289. To: FormerLurker (#288)
I just proved you were full of shit, yet you claim I "rebutted myself"?
#290. To: Dakmar, AGAviator, a.k.a. Tailspin Charley (#284)
Ah yes, here comes Original_Indent Tactic #2.
#291. To: FormerLurker (#288)
AGAviator
#292. To: FormerLurker (#288)
Which makes your claims of the crashes not playing any factor in the subsequent collapses even less supportable.
#293. To: noone222 (#291)
Pointless to talk to that asshat !
#294. To: AGAviator (#283)
I'm not writing for the stupid.
#295. To: AGAviator, Original_Intent (#277)
Ah yes, here comes Original_Indent Tactic #2.
#296. To: AGAviator (#289)
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You're now stating that the crashes and subsequent building collapses happened within under a couple hours but are totally unrelated.
"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
#297. To: noone222 (#291)
Pointless to talk to that asshat !
"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
#298. To: AGAviator (#289)
Daniel B. Barnum, B.Arch, FAIA – Fellow, American Institute of Architects. Over forty years experience in the practice of architecture. Experience covers all aspects of planning, design, construction technology and project management for a wide range of commercial, institutional, religious and residential projects. His projects have been widely published and have received design awards from AIA. Member and former Vice President of AIA Houston and Founder and Chair of the Houston AIA Residential Architecture Committee, Chair of the Urban Design Committee, and Director for Urban Issues.
"I have "known" from day-one that the buildings were imploded and that they could not and would not have collapsed from the damage caused by the airplanes that ran into them." http://www.ae911truth.org
"On Behalf of the People of the United States of America, the undersigned Architects and Engineers for 9/11 Truth and affiliates hereby petition for, and demand, a truly independent investigation with subpoena power in order to uncover the full truth surrounding the events of 9/11/01 - specifically the collapse of the World Trade Center Towers and Building 7. We believe that there is sufficient doubt about the official story and therefore that the 9/11 investigation must be re-opened and must include a full inquiry into the possible use of explosives that may have been the actual cause behind the destruction of the World Trade Center Towers and WTC Building 7." http://www.ae911truth.org/joinus.php 
David Paul Helpern, M.Arch, FAIA – Fellow, American Institute of Architects. Founder, Helpern Architects, a leading-edge architectural design firm for educational institutions at all levels, from elementary schools to universities. Clients include a long list of prominent cultural and faith-based organizations, as well as corporate and hospitality-industry clients.
"The speed and symmetry of the collapses is not consistent with the damage. A new investigation is needed." http://www.ae911truth.org
"On Behalf of the People of the United States of America, the undersigned Architects and Engineers for 9/11 Truth and affiliates hereby petition for, and demand, a truly independent investigation with subpoena power in order to uncover the full truth surrounding the events of 9/11/01 - specifically the collapse of the World Trade Center Towers and Building 7. We believe that there is sufficient doubt about the official story and therefore that the 9/11 investigation must be re-opened and must include a full inquiry into the possible use of explosives that may have been the actual cause behind the destruction of the World Trade Center Towers and WTC Building 7." http://www.ae911truth.org/joinus.php
"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
#299. To: Original_Intent (#292)
Nah, CENTCOM tests their posters for drugs all the time.
#300. To: Original_Intent (#292)
Nah, CENTCOM tests their posters for drugs all the time.
"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
#301. To: Original_Intent (#285)
computer counted ballots are ballots that have been counted in secret, and with all probability not the way one voted.
#302. To: IRTorqued (#301)
#303. To: buckeroo (#299)
Nah, CENTCOM tests their posters for drugs all the time.
#304. To: FormerLurker (#296)
What I've shown is not only have you lied, but that you can't even admit when you're wrong and then claim that you've somehow "proven" something.
computer counted ballots are ballots that have been counted in secret, and with all probability not the way one voted.
#305. To: IRTorqued (#301)
he can't he and his pals of the liar movement get fined for straying off the authorized list of official government fairy tale "fact" sheet.
#306. To: FormerLurker (#300)
Nah, CENTCOM tests their posters for drugs all the time.
#307. To: buckeroo (#302)
computer counted ballots are ballots that have been counted in secret, and with all probability not the way one voted.
#308. To: Original_Intent (#303)
I'm a Vet. I know from first hand experience. Random drug testing is the rule for everyone. Of course when certain senior officers get caught the test is declared invalid, but that's the military for you.
#309. To: IRTorqued (#307)
#310. To: buckeroo (#308)
#311. To: buckeroo (#309)
computer counted ballots are ballots that have been counted in secret, and with all probability not the way one voted.
#312. To: IRTorqued (#304)
he has proven one thing; that he is happy to perpetuate a lie that has caused the deaths of an untold/unknowable number of people and will continue to spread the lie until the nation collapses from the weight of the scum he and his ilk lift up praise.
"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
#313. To: Dakmar (#310)
computer counted ballots are ballots that have been counted in secret, and with all probability not the way one voted.
#314. To: IRTorqued (#311)
the main topic being you and the rest of the liar movement must defend the official fairy[sp: faerie] tale at all costs.
#315. To: FormerLurker (#312)
computer counted ballots are ballots that have been counted in secret, and with all probability not the way one voted.
#316. To: Dakmar (#310)
CENTCOM wasn't established until 1983, well after US involvement in Vietnam.
#317. To: buckeroo (#314)
computer counted ballots are ballots that have been counted in secret, and with all probability not the way one voted.
#318. To: IRTorqued (#317)
#319. To: buckeroo (#318)
computer counted ballots are ballots that have been counted in secret, and with all probability not the way one voted.
#320. To: IRTorqued (#319)
#321. To: FormerLurker, buckeroo, turtle, critter (#296)
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You stated that there were "uncontrolled fires fed by tens of thousands of diesel fuel burning through an office building for several hours"
#322. To: IRTorqued (#317)
Lord Acton
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