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Title: Why I Don't Have Any Use for Truthers
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Published: Jul 9, 2010
Author: Turtle
Post Date: 2010-07-09 11:35:19 by Turtle
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Poster Comment: This woman had sulfuric acid thrown in her face by guess who? Someone engaging in Typical Negro Behavior. They do this out of envy. "I can't get this woman, so nobody can have her." He got life in prison. These are the real problems, not hallucinations abour remote-controlled airplanes and bombs in towers.
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#319. To: buckeroo (#318)
LOL!
Oh it is phunney as you suggest some sort of queer strategy about my comments and my personal dignity, 'eh lamer?
"we ought to lay off the criticism" -- Pinguinite, circa 2010-05-26 22:17:22 ET
I'm talking about WTC 7 ("an office building"), supposed to be your prime candidate as evidence for CD's. WTC 7 had more than 20,000 gallons feeding an uninterruped power supply with self-contained pumps continually pushing the diesel through a severed feed line until all tanks were totally empty.
------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ One of the major consequences of the 9/11 movement has been to draw enormous amounts of energy and effort away from activism directed to real and ongoing crimes of state, and their institutional background, crimes that are far more serious than blowing up the WTC would be, if there were any credibility to that thesis. That is, I suspect, why the 9/11 movement is treated far more tolerantly by centers of power than is the norm for serious critical and activist work. Noam Chomsky
LOL!
Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end. He (Gordon Duff) also implies that forcibly removing Obama, a Constitution-hating, on-the-down-low, crackhead Communist, is an attack on America, Mom, and apple pie. I swear these military people are worse than useless. Just look around at the condition of the country and tell me if they have fulfilled their oaths to protect the nation from all enemies foreign and domestic. No loser, your inflated numbers include a large percentage believing that the USG did not participate in the attacks, but also did not do enough to prevent or stop them. Go argue with Ohio University, they're the ones that did the survey. BTW, who performed YOUR survey, yourself Twofferk00ks infiltrate Bill Maher TV show, he kicks them out, audience applauds. To Twofferk00k in audience: Maher: "And you are a nut case, Building 7...Of all the things I've said...the one they protest about here is the people who think the World Trade Center was a controlled explosion. You see, in that instance I'm actually defending President Bush. I don't think President Bush brought down the World Trade Center." Audience: "Booooooo" Maher: "And cows disagree with me." Audience: Laughter and thunderous applause.
------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ One of the major consequences of the 9/11 movement has been to draw enormous amounts of energy and effort away from activism directed to real and ongoing crimes of state, and their institutional background, crimes that are far more serious than blowing up the WTC would be, if there were any credibility to that thesis. That is, I suspect, why the 9/11 movement is treated far more tolerantly by centers of power than is the norm for serious critical and activist work. Noam Chomsky
Are you thinking of calling "security" to "kick our asses" (out)? It won't work, trust me. :)
"The people in power will not disappear voluntarily, giving flowers to the cops just isn't going to work. This thinking is fostered by the establishment; they like nothing better than love and nonviolence. The only way I like to see cops given flowers is in a flower pot from a high window.” - William S Burroughs
persons who perpetuate a lie causing the death of an untold/unknowable number of people world wide calling it a war on terror have no personal dignity, that is you and your pals of the liar movement.
feel free to rub his nose in it the next time he goes spastic.
Yeah, twofer... you lost the little grain of respect I had for your posts as you consider issues far removed from the topic of thread. You attacked me for no reason while you have a personal problem of identifying yourself as a self-professed queer. [edit: in fact, goodbye forever until your next Internet handle.]
"we ought to lay off the criticism" -- Pinguinite, circa 2010-05-26 22:17:22 ET
Nothing of the sort. However when you emerge from your own "7th century caves" on the internet, and publicly go after the people you anonymously trash on your k00kblogs, expect an unwelcome reception by the great majority of the American population. Because you are a minority, and an irrelevant one at that.
------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ One of the major consequences of the 9/11 movement has been to draw enormous amounts of energy and effort away from activism directed to real and ongoing crimes of state, and their institutional background, crimes that are far more serious than blowing up the WTC would be, if there were any credibility to that thesis. That is, I suspect, why the 9/11 movement is treated far more tolerantly by centers of power than is the norm for serious critical and activist work. Noam Chomsky
Irrelevant? :) That bring back memories from LP. I suggest you save us both some time and call me an anti-Semite and then insist the discussion is over and stalk off all in a huffy-huff..
"The people in power will not disappear voluntarily, giving flowers to the cops just isn't going to work. This thinking is fostered by the establishment; they like nothing better than love and nonviolence. The only way I like to see cops given flowers is in a flower pot from a high window.” - William S Burroughs
Get your head out of your ASS. At LP, the issue was about GWBush going into Iraq. Don't squirm out of this, pal.
"we ought to lay off the criticism" -- Pinguinite, circa 2010-05-26 22:17:22 ET
the audience must have been filled with members of the liar movement, they hate free speech that questions the sacraments of the official fairy tale.
wow like the respect from one of the liar movement is a thing of value and as for "no reason" dementia fills your little world with askew lights.
Are you sure? Because I remember a lot of posters throwing out the term. In fact, it seemed to be more of a cheap stunt than an effective debating tactic, seemed sort of "boiler room", even.
"The people in power will not disappear voluntarily, giving flowers to the cops just isn't going to work. This thinking is fostered by the establishment; they like nothing better than love and nonviolence. The only way I like to see cops given flowers is in a flower pot from a high window.” - William S Burroughs
Just a regular TV audience, I think.
"The people in power will not disappear voluntarily, giving flowers to the cops just isn't going to work. This thinking is fostered by the establishment; they like nothing better than love and nonviolence. The only way I like to see cops given flowers is in a flower pot from a high window.” - William S Burroughs
LQQK back in time and personally reflect on the war issues. Afghanistan was rarely brought up; the focus was a US government mission without a declaration of war by Congress in Iraq.
"we ought to lay off the criticism" -- Pinguinite, circa 2010-05-26 22:17:22 ET
First I'll buy some beads How to get to Haight Street I will go to a house "The people in power will not disappear voluntarily, giving flowers to the cops just isn't going to work. This thinking is fostered by the establishment; they like nothing better than love and nonviolence. The only way I like to see cops given flowers is in a flower pot from a high window.” - William S Burroughs
Beyond the dope, there are always some fine chicks.
"we ought to lay off the criticism" -- Pinguinite, circa 2010-05-26 22:17:22 ET
Because you are a minority, and an irrelevant one at that Irrelevant? :) What would you prefer to call it? Zogby America Likely Voters 8/23/07 thru 8/27/07 MOE +/- 3.1 percentage points Pages 5 - 8 The first theory is the official story, and maintains that 19 Arab fundamentalists executed a surprise attack which caught US intelligence and military forces off guard. The second theory known as Let It Happen argues that certain elements in the US government knew the attacks were coming but consciously let them proceed for various political, military and economic motives; and The third theory Made It Happen contends that certain US government elements actively planned or assisted some aspects of the attacks. Based upon your knowledge of 9/11 events and their aftermath, which theory are you more likely to agree with? Official story........................ 639..... 63.6% ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ One of the major consequences of the 9/11 movement has been to draw enormous amounts of energy and effort away from activism directed to real and ongoing crimes of state, and their institutional background, crimes that are far more serious than blowing up the WTC would be, if there were any credibility to that thesis. That is, I suspect, why the 9/11 movement is treated far more tolerantly by centers of power than is the norm for serious critical and activist work. Noam Chomsky
I see. You don't understand the difference between popular sentiment and rational thought. Are you planning to vote for Obama in 2012 or are you still waiting to see what everyone else is doing?
"The people in power will not disappear voluntarily, giving flowers to the cops just isn't going to work. This thinking is fostered by the establishment; they like nothing better than love and nonviolence. The only way I like to see cops given flowers is in a flower pot from a high window.” - William S Burroughs
Ther's nothing rational about your own unsubstantiated assertions the collapses happened because of activities done directly by the US govenment. You've had nearly 9 years to make your case, and as time goes on more and more people are advocating the US get out of Middle East wars, but less and less of them are saying the original attacks were done by the US. There is a much more substantial minority - also cited in the polls - who believes certain elements within the USG didn't do enough to head off the attacks, which I also subscribe to. But not did it themselves, because they're not cunning or smart enough to pull something of this scale off without it blowing up in their faces and being discovered.
------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ One of the major consequences of the 9/11 movement has been to draw enormous amounts of energy and effort away from activism directed to real and ongoing crimes of state, and their institutional background, crimes that are far more serious than blowing up the WTC would be, if there were any credibility to that thesis. That is, I suspect, why the 9/11 movement is treated far more tolerantly by centers of power than is the norm for serious critical and activist work. Noam Chomsky
I've asserted no such thing, but why let facts stand in the way of a good lie?
"The people in power will not disappear voluntarily, giving flowers to the cops just isn't going to work. This thinking is fostered by the establishment; they like nothing better than love and nonviolence. The only way I like to see cops given flowers is in a flower pot from a high window.” - William S Burroughs
So what are YOU, a LIARKOOK? BTW, are you a huge disciple of Bill Maher? I bet you're a huge fan of Obama too, aren't you...
Really? Post a link. Or is that something else you made up and/or pulled out of your ass? Incidently, even IF true, how's that explain the sudden symetrical collapse and free fall?
Post a link. Or is that something else you made up and/or pulled out of your ass? Incidently, even IF true What a little faggot you are. You're ignorant of facts, you want to challenge and insult me, but you're worried I'll bitch slap you with incontrovertible facts like I've done to so many other kooks already, so you line up your final smokescreen of "even if true." You're pathetic, Six Percenter. Or make that 4.6 percenter if you want to go by the 2007 Zogby results. And do your own research instead of demanding I do it for you. Nobody needs to convince you idiots of anything, because you're irrelevant.
------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ One of the major consequences of the 9/11 movement has been to draw enormous amounts of energy and effort away from activism directed to real and ongoing crimes of state, and their institutional background, crimes that are far more serious than blowing up the WTC would be, if there were any credibility to that thesis. That is, I suspect, why the 9/11 movement is treated far more tolerantly by centers of power than is the norm for serious critical and activist work. Noam Chomsky
I'm somebody who hates liars, k00ks, and groupthink. As far as Obama, I've already said elsewhere he's 50% brain dead in a government with most people 99% brain dead. So no I'm not a fan, but on his worst day he's better than the likes of you.
------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ One of the major consequences of the 9/11 movement has been to draw enormous amounts of energy and effort away from activism directed to real and ongoing crimes of state, and their institutional background, crimes that are far more serious than blowing up the WTC would be, if there were any credibility to that thesis. That is, I suspect, why the 9/11 movement is treated far more tolerantly by centers of power than is the norm for serious critical and activist work. Noam Chomsky
O-o-o-b-a-a-a-a-aaamaa.
"One of the least understood strategies of the world revolution now moving rapidly toward its goal is the use of mind control as a major means of obtaining the consent of the people who will be subjects of the New World Order." K.M. Heaton, The National Educator
So, where do you place people who believe in preposterous government conspiracy theories who sycophantically suspend whatever faculties they may have to repeat ad nauseam spin line after spin line?
"One of the least understood strategies of the world revolution now moving rapidly toward its goal is the use of mind control as a major means of obtaining the consent of the people who will be subjects of the New World Order." K.M. Heaton, The National Educator
Ad homs are all you got and all you'll ever have. ;-) Then if the viewpoint is irrelevant why have you run two threads into the three hundreds pontificating about the "Official Conspiracy Theory™" and how all of the anomalies and contradictory information can be carefully The reality is that it is true and it is you who is out of step with the picture the evidence paints. Sorry about using words of more than one syllable, but you have to learn how to use a dictionary some day.
"One of the least understood strategies of the world revolution now moving rapidly toward its goal is the use of mind control as a major means of obtaining the consent of the people who will be subjects of the New World Order." K.M. Heaton, The National Educator
Tell me how the 2004 Obama video interview with al Jazeera, where he says that he and Bush are working together to bankrupt the US, albeit for different motives, is a "preposterous government conspiracy theory." And don't get started on your ***preposterous*** "it wasn't OBL in the video" claim, either. That's been debunked too. 911 Myths.com: Why Does Osama Have 2 Different Noses? Pages 1-3 This is like one of those “before and after” cosmetic surgery ads in which the “before” photo is deliberately unflattering, with harsh directional lighting. True, the quality of the “confession” video is very poor, as is the quality of this reproduction, but did the “truth-seekers” really use a representative video still? For example, at right is another video still of Bin Laden. It’s also from a poor-quality video with bad lighting, but I think we can agree that he looks like the “long nose” Bin Laden in the photo on the above right, yes? But if I had chosen the worst still from that video, bin Laden might look more like me or like Fidel Castro Well guess what? The still at right is also from the confession video. It’s the same man, in the same setting, as the “short nose” Bin Laden. My, how deceiving people can be when they cherry-pick information! So, “truth seekers,” what do you have to say for yourselves? How interested are you in finding the truth? I await your answer. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ One of the major consequences of the 9/11 movement has been to draw enormous amounts of energy and effort away from activism directed to real and ongoing crimes of state, and their institutional background, crimes that are far more serious than blowing up the WTC would be, if there were any credibility to that thesis. That is, I suspect, why the 9/11 movement is treated far more tolerantly by centers of power than is the norm for serious critical and activist work. Noam Chomsky
"One of the least understood strategies of the world revolution now moving rapidly toward its goal is the use of mind control as a major means of obtaining the consent of the people who will be subjects of the New World Order." K.M. Heaton, The National Educator
How many of your k00kflock members have addressed posts to me, complete with your denials, personal attacks usually your containing scatological and obscene projections like this one Tell me what proportion of the posts and word content on any thread is mine vs. you people. You are the ones dragging these things out because you can't stay on topic and you can't stop trying to defend the unsupportable.
------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ One of the major consequences of the 9/11 movement has been to draw enormous amounts of energy and effort away from activism directed to real and ongoing crimes of state, and their institutional background, crimes that are far more serious than blowing up the WTC would be, if there were any credibility to that thesis. That is, I suspect, why the 9/11 movement is treated far more tolerantly by centers of power than is the norm for serious critical and activist work. Noam Chomsky
------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ One of the major consequences of the 9/11 movement has been to draw enormous amounts of energy and effort away from activism directed to real and ongoing crimes of state, and their institutional background, crimes that are far more serious than blowing up the WTC would be, if there were any credibility to that thesis. That is, I suspect, why the 9/11 movement is treated far more tolerantly by centers of power than is the norm for serious critical and activist work. Noam Chomsky
Please tell me who fucking invited a homosexual twerp like you to violate the normal harmony shared by others here that aren't government informant TWERPS. (Twerp = one that farts in the bath tub and then bites the bubble to sniff it. Most TWERPS are also kikes. This mental disorder appears to be genetic).
Resolve to serve no more, and you are at once freed. I do not ask that you place hands upon the tyrant to topple him over, but simply that you support him no longer; then you will behold him, like a great Colossus whose pedestal has been pulled away, fall of his own weight and break in pieces
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The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one.
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The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one.
It wouldn't. Never forget, they are talking about KEROSENE. It takes many gallons of it to burn a brush pile if it is wet or the stuff in it is green. No joke, I burned a brush pile about a year ago and I had a barrel of kerosene--good-sized barrel, probably half full. I thought I was going to have to use all of it on that brush pile! I finally got it burned by using my leaf blower like a bellows in a blacksmith shop. And that 20,000 gallons he is on about was not that Magickal Jet Fuel™. I think it may have been a few drops of that that hit building 7. /s
Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end. He (Gordon Duff) also implies that forcibly removing Obama, a Constitution-hating, on-the-down-low, crackhead Communist, is an attack on America, Mom, and apple pie. I swear these military people are worse than useless. Just look around at the condition of the country and tell me if they have fulfilled their oaths to protect the nation from all enemies foreign and domestic. That is the correct story. It unfortunately leaves a lot of us with a sense that all the tax dollars pissed away on intelligence and military and associated services were absolutlely flushed down the toilet. And when you couple the FACT that all of the 19 terrorists were here illegally, you wonder who is asleep at the wheel or is anyone really there. Of course, immediately afterwards, the US government creates the US Patriot Act permitting eavesdrops on US citizens without court orders and other domestic spying activities and called "new tools" which clearly violate our individual rights and liberties ..... and there is even more .... create two war efforts (although Iraq was illegal) that later shows even more absurd blunders by the US military /intelligence when not one WMD was discovered .... and then leads to a consolidation of the intelligence services within a new umbrella organization tucked under "Homeland security." Meanwhile, all this wasted money has done nothing with the singular exception of expanding the US government .... pissing away more dollars. The American government is a laff a minute. It is reminiscent of the old slap-stick comedy team, "the Three Stooges."
"we ought to lay off the criticism" -- Pinguinite, circa 2010-05-26 22:17:22 ET
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computer counted ballots are ballots that have been counted in secret, and with all probability not the way one voted.
#320. To: IRTorqued (#319)
#321. To: FormerLurker, buckeroo, turtle, critter (#296)
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You stated that there were "uncontrolled fires fed by tens of thousands of diesel fuel burning through an office building for several hours"
#322. To: IRTorqued (#317)
Lord Acton
OsamaBinGoldstein posted on 2010-05-25 9:39:59 ET (2 images) Reply Trace
#323. To: FormerLurker, buckeroo, turtle, critter (#278)
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#324. To: AGAviator (#323)
#325. To: buckeroo (#320)
computer counted ballots are ballots that have been counted in secret, and with all probability not the way one voted.
#326. To: James Deffenbach (#322)
computer counted ballots are ballots that have been counted in secret, and with all probability not the way one voted.
#327. To: IRTorqued (#325)
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#328. To: Dakmar (#324)
Are you thinking of calling "security" to "kick our asses" (out)? It won't work, trust me. :)
#329. To: AGAviator (#328)
Because you are a minority, and an irrelevant one at that
#330. To: Dakmar (#329)
That bring back memories from LP.
#331. To: Dakmar (#324)
computer counted ballots are ballots that have been counted in secret, and with all probability not the way one voted.
#332. To: buckeroo (#327)
computer counted ballots are ballots that have been counted in secret, and with all probability not the way one voted.
#333. To: buckeroo (#330)
At LP, the issue was about GWBush going into Iraq.
#334. To: IRTorqued (#331)
the audience must have been filled with members of the liar movement, they hate free speech that questions the sacraments of the official fairy tale.
#335. To: Dakmar (#333)
#336. To: buckeroo (#335)
LQQK back in time and personally reflect on the war issues.
And then perhaps a leather band
To go around my head
Some feathers and bells
And a book of Indian lore
I will ask the Chamber Of Commerce
And smoke an awful lot of dope
I will wander around barefoot
I will have a psychedelic gleam in my eye at all times
I will love everyone
I will love the police as they kick the shit out of me on the street
I will sleep . . .
I will, I will go to a house
That's, that's what I will do
Where there's a rock & roll band
'Cause the groups all live together
And I will join a rock & roll band
I will be their road manager
#337. To: Dakmar (#336)
#338. To: Dakmar (#329)
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402. There are three main schools of thought regarding the 9/11 attacks.
Let it happen....................... 266...... 26.4%
Made it happen..................... 46....... 4.6%
NS....................................... 54........ 5.4%
Total..................................1006... 100.0%
#339. To: AGAviator (#338)
#340. To: Dakmar, buckeroo, turtle, critter, Dakmar (#339)
You don't understand the difference between popular sentiment and rational thought.
#341. To: AGAviator (#340)
Ther's nothing rational about your own unsubstantiated assertions the collapses happened because of activities done directly by the US govenment.
#342. To: AGAviator (#323)
Twofferk00ks infiltrate Bill Maher TV show, he kicks them out, audience applauds.
"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
#343. To: AGAviator (#321)
WTC 7 had more than 20,000 gallons feeding an uninterruped power supply with self-contained pumps continually pushing the diesel through a severed feed line until all tanks were totally empty.
"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
#344. To: FormerLurker, buckeroo, (#343)
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Really?
#345. To: FormerLurker (#342)
So what are YOU, a LIARKOOK? BTW, are you a huge disciple of Bill Maher? I bet you're a huge fan of Obama too
#346. To: Dakmar, AGAviator, a.k.a. Tailspin Charley (#339)
You don't understand the difference between popular sentiment and rational thought. Are you planning to vote for Obama in 2012 or are you still waiting to see what everyone else is doing?
#347. To: AGAviator, FormerLurker, Dakmar, all (#345)
As far as Obama, I've already said elsewhere he's 50% brain dead in a government with most people 99% brain dead. So no I'm not a fan, but on his worst day he's better than the likes of you.
#348. To: AGAviator, FormerLurker, Original_Intent, Critter, Dakmar, Jethro Tull, christine, Rotara, Artisan, abraxas, IRTorqued, Eric Stratton, Flintlock, noone222, AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt, HighLairEon, bluegrass, James Deffenbach, *9-11*, all (#344)
“It has been said, 'time heals all wounds.' I do not agree. The wounds remain. In time, the mind, protecting its sanity, covers them with scar tissue and the pain lessens, but it is never gone.” ~ Rose F. Kennedy
#349. To: AGAviator, FormerLurker, Dakmar, all (#344)
And do your own research instead of demanding I do it for you. Nobody needs to convince you idiots of anything, because you're irrelevant.
spun explained away by using the tips and tricks of the "Less than Amazing Randi"?
#350. To: Dakmar, Original_Intent, christine, FormerLurker, all, *Post Of The Day* (#339)
I see. You don't understand the difference between popular sentiment and rational thought. Are you planning to vote for Obama in 2012 or are you still waiting to see what everyone else is doing?
“It has been said, 'time heals all wounds.' I do not agree. The wounds remain. In time, the mind, protecting its sanity, covers them with scar tissue and the pain lessens, but it is never gone.” ~ Rose F. Kennedy
#351. To: Original_Intent (#347)
So, where do you place people who believe in preposterous government conspiracy theories who sycophantically suspend whatever faculties they may have to repeat ad nauseam spin line after spin line?
#352. To: AGAviator (#351)
#353. To: Original_Intent, buckeroo, turtle, critter (#349)
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Then if the viewpoint is irrelevant why have you run two threads into the three hundreds
, never- ending bizarre theories of alternate reality, and truckoads of beside the point, off-topic, preprogrammed word dumps.
#354. To: wudidiz (#348)
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#355. To: AGAviator (#353)
#356. To: wudidiz (#348)
#357. To: AGAviator, All (#338)
#358. To: FormerLurker (#343)
Really? Post a link. Or is that something else you made up and/or pulled out of your ass? Incidently, even IF true, how's that explain the sudden symetrical collapse and free fall?
Lord Acton
OsamaBinGoldstein posted on 2010-05-25 9:39:59 ET (2 images) Reply Trace
#359. To: AGAviator (#338)
The first theory is the official story, and maintains that 19 Arab fundamentalists executed a surprise attack which caught US intelligence and military forces off guard.
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