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Title: Why I Don't Have Any Use for Truthers
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Published: Jul 9, 2010
Author: Turtle
Post Date: 2010-07-09 11:35:19 by Turtle
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Views: 27738
Comments: 879
Poster Comment: This woman had sulfuric acid thrown in her face by guess who? Someone engaging in Typical Negro Behavior. They do this out of envy. "I can't get this woman, so nobody can have her." He got life in prison. These are the real problems, not hallucinations abour remote-controlled airplanes and bombs in towers.
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#14. To: Turdle, Turtle, christine, AllTheKingsHorses, all (#0)
So Turdle, are you and Hal Turner close friends? Any handlers in common? Isn't it amazing what some people will do for money? Oh, by the way I've seen the blonde's picture before in a different context. The other readily apparent difference is that the ears are not the same. Ears are a distinctive feature on a lot of people. Despite the damage to her face they should bear at least some resemblance, but the structure is not at all the same. I notice also that you did not provide a URL source. I'm calling Bullshit unless you can provide a source Got Agitprop?
I notice also that you did not provide a URL source. I'm calling Bullshit unless you can provide a source Got Agitprop? Typical denial mode of a classic CT windbag fuckwit. Harping on minutiae, using self-proclaimed expertise to allege the evidence isn't credible, then using prefab denials citing self as authoritative expert, to dismiss the subject out of hand. And throwing in a little scatological dig ("Turdle") in the process. Here's the link, maroon. Now what do you have to say?
I can recall news reports of similar events, they are rare, where the perp was white. All this proves is that there is at least one deranged ex-boyfriend in the world. It proves absolutely nothing else. I take it you guys are trying to divert from the other thread where you had your heads handed to you on that stupid conspiracy theory about "19ArabsWhoHateUsCuzWe'reFree" being directed by a mad mullah in a cave in the remote mountains of far Afghanistan with his Magic Cellphone© that were able to hijack 4 airliners, without one of them giving a 4 digit 2 second hijack code, with box cutters and then leisurely joyride in the most controlled and monitored airspace on the planet and then with the precision of Master Pilots (which is pretty slick since they were all known incompetents as pilots and had never flown anything larger than a single engine propeller driven Cessna 172) fly them around for two hours without being intercepted, then with precision fly them into major buildings {and even more miraculously they able to take down 3 Buildings with 2 planes in new york - and presumably the "Psychic Friends Network was on the phone to both CNN and BBC as both reported the collapse of building 7 before it happened, as well despite a minimum of 13 warnings from other foreign intelligence agencies the government had no clue that such an event could be considered or possibly happen (as per White House Spokesliar Ari Fourflusher at a White House News Conference, despite having two years earlier recovered a hard drive from the Phillipines which detailed this exact scenario)}. You conspiracy kooks are just too rich.
dang it OI now you went and made the resident shill for the liar movement cry.
I had no idea he was so sensitive over the Psychic Friends Network. Honest.
Hey internet CT pushers! Did ya happen to know that over 6 times as many Americans (50%) believe that UFO aliens have abducted humans, than believe it was "very likely" that the WTC Towers were brought down by "secretly planted explosives (6%)?" Of course you didn't!!!!!!! That suuure is a select group of people you're included in. BWAHAHAHAHHAHAHA!!!!! Poll: U.S. Hiding Knowledge of [UFO] Aliens The poll has a margin of error of plus or minus 3 percentage points. • 77% "unlikely"
I see you have received the coveted "PSY-OP" award, not just once but several times on this thread; you have even received warnings in black, bold hyper font from time to time! This is an honour that only a few of us esteemed patriots can sport about the 4um. You have made the BIG_TIME. BTW, you win the thread. Good job, that took a lot of perseverance and tenacity.
It takes a lot of ignorance to believe that Aggravator has "won" anything on this thread. He showed himself to be a pro-government stooge who swallows their lies if that is what you think of as a "winner."
Where has AGAviator taken a "pro-government" perspective?
Anyone who believes that stupid government conspiracy theory has a "pro-government" perspective. That is the wackiest theory of all. Ten thousand of the best clowns Ringing and Brothers has, has had, or will ever have, couldn't make up a story so stupid and lame. Yet nuts like Aggravator fell for it.
Beyond suspicion and doubt (which has been presented) where is there any direct proof and about government intervention concerning 9-11 other than after the devastating events? To pull off a mammoth tragedy like this would have taken hundreds if not thousands of personnel. And since 9-11, where are any of the whistle-blowers? To support a thesis based on reality requires not mere suspicion of a given phenomena. It requires supporting facts and a tragedy this large should have produced eye-witnesses by now. The events of 9-11 were pulled off by terrorists here in this country designed and planned in the ME, principally from Saudi Arabia. It was a carefully co-ordinated attack, timed to occur simultaneously at several destinations with a minimum of resources maximizing the devastation. The issues were about America's continuing support of and about Israel particularly as the US has aided and (indeed) orchestrated despair with the Palestinians. It was greatly influenced by the fall of the USSR's attempt to control Afghanistan while the US aided the "freedom fighters" there and then later vacated further assistance in the 1990s. There were other attempts in NYC in the 1990s that clearly show the contempt of the Taliban and the al-Qaida, as well. Now, I think the US government unintentionally received what is popularly referred to as "blowback; that is, the US government (particularly through the US state department and the CIA) created the sentiment of resentment based upon bungling and blundering our own official policies and procedures. But there was a strategic focus beyond anything mentioned which was the oil pipelines that were the REAL issues although never discussed from a formal US point of view. Those pipelines were worth far more than any war.... they were worth the sanctity of the US people to continue their unrelenting gluttony of sucking 25% of the world's oil supplies. So, it was really a sustaining mission and continues to this very day AND they is why you see politicians consistently flip-flop about their perspective of getting out. If America were truly attempting to modify it's methods of energy supplies (say adding nuclear power plants as China is performing) we could be out of the ME in no time at all. But, we don't do it. The politicians are controlled by powerful lobbyists that ensure ample rewards back to the politicians to continue sustaining America's oil gluttony. There is a threshold of pain that the American people require before we adopt alternative energy methods .... when that level of pain hits, it shall take years to develop and ensure ample distribution methods and through that period of time Americans are going to suffer BIG_TIME. But, we lack a need to modify our dependence on oil just yet. We have BP and deepwater technologies to thank for that.
There were millions of "eye witnesses" who saw the Salomon Brothers Building fall into its own footprint in about as close to free fall speed as you could imagine. For those who might not know that is in reference to WTC 7, the building which fell even though no plane hit it. And no other steel-framed skyscraper ever before or since has fallen due to fire damage, though some have burned much longer and hotter. One Meridian Plaza is a 38-floor skyscraper in Philadelphia that suffered a severe fire on February 23, 1991. The fire started on the 22nd floor and raged for 18 hours, gutting eight floors and causing an estimated $100 million in direct property loss. It was later described by Philadelphia officials as "the most significant fire in this century". The fire caused window breakage, cracking of granite, and failures of spandrel panel connections. Despite the severity and duration of the fire, as evidenced by the damage the building sustained, no part of the building collapsed. The First Interstate Bank Fire The First Interstate Bank Building is a 62-story skyscraper in Los Angeles that suffered the worst high-rise fire in the city's history. From the late evening of May 4, 1988 through the early morning of the next day, 64 fire companies battled the blaze, which lasted for 3 1/2 hours. The fire caused extensive window breakage, which complicated firefighting efforts. Large flames jutted out of the building during the blaze. Firefighting efforts resulted in massive water damage to floors below the fire, and the fire gutted offices from the 12th to the 16th floor, and caused extensive smoke damage to floors above. The fire caused an estimated $200 million in direct property loss. A report by Iklim Ltd. describes the structural damage from the fire: In spite of the total burnout of four and a half floors, there was no damage to the main structural members and only minor damage to one secondary beam and a small number of floor pans. The 1 New York Plaza Fire 1 New York Plaza is a 50-story office tower less than a mile from the World Trade Center site. It suffered a severe fire and explosion on August 5, 1970. The fire started around 6 PM, and burned for more than 6 hours. Caracas Tower Fire The tallest skyscraper in Caracas, Venezuela experienced a severe fire on October 17, 2004. The blaze began before midnight on the 34th floor, spread to more than 26 floors, and burned for more than 17 hours. Heat from the fires prevented firefighters from reaching the upper floors, and smoke injured 40 firefighters. Lax enforcement of fire codes in Venezuela was blamed for the malfunctioning of water pumps and a lack of fire extinguishers inside of the building. Because the building was empty when the fire broke out, no civilians were killed or injured. The Beijing Mandarin Oriental Hotel Fire The most recent example of a spectacular skyscraper fire was the burning of the Hotel Mandarin Oriental starting on February 9, 2009. The nearly completed 520-foot-tall skyscraper in Beijing caught fire around 8:00 pm, was engulfed within 20 minutes, and burned for at least 3 hours until midnight. Despite the fact that the fire extended across all of the floors for a period of time and burned out of control for hours, no large portion of the structure collapsed.... And then there was the obvious stand down by the Air Force that day. Despite normal intercept times of between 10 and 20 minutes for errant domestic flights, the airliners commandeered on 9/11/01 roamed the skies for over an hour without interference. And this in one of the busiest, if not the busiest, air traffic corridor in the world? Give me a break! 9/11 was either a MIHOP or a LIHOP. The government either made it happen on purpose or let it happen on purpose. No other explanation explains all the anomalies and the facts that are known. edited to remove footnote numbers since no footnotes are included here.
Did you write this? If not, I want a hot link to the comment. Now, let me say this: WTC-7 was brought down because it was falling anyway. It was tremendously weakened from the earlier concussion from and about the twin towers.
Yes, I did write it and it's true. It was falling? Curious that, since none ever had before and none have since. Better get off that Sterno, buck. That $#it is gonna kill you.
Yes, Six Percenter, not only was it slowly leaning over and getting ready to fall, a NYFD fireman was interviewed at the time and said, on camera, QED pwned.
What is an NYPD fireman? A New York Police Department fireman? No such animal, Kemo Sabe.
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NYPFD The correct appellation is "FDNY" or Fire Department New York. I can see you've studied the issues closely. /sarcasm
I can see you've studied the issues closely. /sarcasm I can see you've been reduced to nit picking and pettifogging over spelling minutiae in place of issues, Six Percenter. I show an explicit video of a New York City fireman saying the WTC7 building is going down, and "There's no way to stop it...the structural integrity is not there," several hours before the building actually collapsed. Your reply is "You didn't post the name of the New York City Fire Department the way I want to see it, and you have a one letter typo" Now if you could only leverage that into raising your acceptance of "Controlled demolitions by the USG brought down by the WTC" population to maybe 10%, you'd be making some progress. BWAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!! You've been pwned by the New York City fireman video I posted explicitly prediciting collapse from serious damage and uncontrolled fires hours before WTC 7 actually went down. Now instead of being a man and acknowledging you've been wrong, you go into denial and spelling nit pick mode.
Not even close. I am reduced to pointing out that you are an idiot who has hissy fits over things he obviously hasn't spent much time studying. As for your childish rant to cover up your ignorance: Do have a nice day.
Is my explicit video of an NY City Fireman totally sending your k00k theories of controlled demolition of WTC 7 down the toilet a hissy fit, pettifogger? Just how much time do I need to ***study*** a fireman on scene saying "The building's going down. There's no way to stop it. The structural integrity is not there." Anything about those words you can't understand as quickly as they're spoken, contrary to the garbage dump of k00kclaims you've littered the entire internet with? The video message is where you get pwned. Not what I call a NY City fireman. BWAHAHAHAHA. Pettifogging loser.
You mean any of THESE NY City Firemen?
Try to stay on point, Six Percenter. Your k00k theory is about controlled demolitions bringing a building down, not "secondary explosions" caused by uncontrolled fires fed by tens of thousands of diesel fuel burning through an office building for several hours. And Kevin Ryan was a low level employee fired for incompetence, while Van Romero of New Mexico retracted his spur-of-the-moment comments made on 911 almost as quickly as he made them - after he had time to see more evidence.
Hey cheeseball, I used to know another poster who loved to toss the word KOOK around. His name was BeAChooser. Are you him? BTW you brain-damaged moron, even the NIST and FEMA reports indicate that not only did the majority of the fuel burn up OUTSIDE of the towers when the jets impacted, but that the fuel only burned for several minutes in each tower. The fires that burned were regular OFFICE FIRES, consisting of furniture, paper, and office equipment. Besides, the South Tower collapsed at 9:59, and was struck at 9:03, so the fires in that building only burned for 56 minutes, not even an hour, far short of the "several hours" you toss around as if it were fact. The North Tower collapsed at 10:28, after being struck at 8:46. It burned for 102 minutes, still short of the "several hours" you claim. You are grasping at straws here to paint this as something other than what it was. I wonder why that is...
The North Tower collapsed at 10:28, after being struck at 8:46. It burned for 102 minutes, still short of the "several hours" you claim. Which makes your claims of the crashes not playing any factor in the subsequent collapses even less supportable. Nice job of rebutting yourself.
Nice job of rebutting yourself. I just proved you were full of shit, yet you claim I "rebutted myself"? Are you on drugs?
Are you on drugs? You're now stating that the crashes and subsequent building collapses happened within under a couple hours but are totally unrelated. What are you on, Six Percenter?
You stated that there were "uncontrolled fires fed by tens of thousands of diesel fuel burning through an office building for several hours" What I've shown is not only have you lied, but that you can't even admit when you're wrong and then claim that you've somehow "proven" something.
I'm talking about WTC 7 ("an office building"), supposed to be your prime candidate as evidence for CD's. WTC 7 had more than 20,000 gallons feeding an uninterruped power supply with self-contained pumps continually pushing the diesel through a severed feed line until all tanks were totally empty.
Really? Post a link. Or is that something else you made up and/or pulled out of your ass? Incidently, even IF true, how's that explain the sudden symetrical collapse and free fall?
Post a link. Or is that something else you made up and/or pulled out of your ass? Incidently, even IF true What a little faggot you are. You're ignorant of facts, you want to challenge and insult me, but you're worried I'll bitch slap you with incontrovertible facts like I've done to so many other kooks already, so you line up your final smokescreen of "even if true." You're pathetic, Six Percenter. Or make that 4.6 percenter if you want to go by the 2007 Zogby results. And do your own research instead of demanding I do it for you. Nobody needs to convince you idiots of anything, because you're irrelevant.
#348. To: AGAviator, FormerLurker, Original_Intent, Critter, Dakmar, Jethro Tull, christine, Rotara, Artisan, abraxas, IRTorqued, Eric Stratton, Flintlock, noone222, AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt, HighLairEon, bluegrass, James Deffenbach, *9-11*, all (#344)
Ad homs are all you got and all you'll ever have. ;-)
Then if the viewpoint is irrelevant why have you run two threads into the three hundreds pontificating about the "Official Conspiracy Theory™" and how all of the anomalies and contradictory information can be carefully The reality is that it is true and it is you who is out of step with the picture the evidence paints. Sorry about using words of more than one syllable, but you have to learn how to use a dictionary some day.
So if I'm a little faggot, what's that make you? Projection appears to be your forte here, perhaps your ass is a bit sore today?
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#21. To: turtle, Original_Intent, buckeroo (#14)
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The other readily apparent difference is that the ears are not the same. Ears are a distinctive feature on a lot of people. Despite the damage to her face they should bear at least some resemblance, but the structure is not at all the same.
#24. To: AGAviator, FormerLurker, X-15, wudidiz, James Deffenbach, buckeroo, turdle, christine, all (#21)
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......
#100. To: Original_Intent (#24)
#121. To: IRTorqued (#100)
dang it OI now you went and made the resident shill for the liar movement cry.
#129. To: Original_Intent, IRTorqued, critter, buckeroo, turtle (#121)
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so sensitive over the Psychic Friends Network. Honest.
Sixty- four percent of the respondents said that aliens have contacted humans,
Half said they've abducted humans, and
37 percent said they have contacted the U.S. government. The collapse of the twin towers in New York was aided by explosives secretly planted in the two buildings"
• 10% "somewhat likely"
• 6% "very likely"[13]
#133. To: AGAviator (#129)
#142. To: buckeroo (#133)
BTW, you win the thread. Good job, that took a lot of perseverance and tenacity.
#143. To: James Deffenbach, AGAviator (#142)
He showed himself to be a pro-government stooge who swallows their lies
#145. To: buckeroo (#143)
#147. To: James Deffenbach (#145)
#149. To: buckeroo (#147)
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To support a thesis based on reality requires not mere suspicion of a given phenomena. It requires supporting facts and a tragedy this large should have produced eye-witnesses by now.
#152. To: James Deffenbach (#149)
There were millions of "eye witnesses" who saw the Salomon Brothers Building fall into its own footprint in about as close to free fall speed as you could imagine. For those who might not know that is in reference to WTC 7, the building which fell even though no plane hit it. And no other steel-framed skyscraper ever before or since has fallen due to fire damage, though some have burned much longer and hotter.
#154. To: buckeroo (#152)
Did you write this? If not, I want a hot link to the comment.
#155. To: James Deffenbach, turtle, critter, buckeroo (#154)
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Yes, I did write it and it's true. It was falling?
"See the way it's leaning over like that? It's definitely gonna fall. There's no way to stop it...You have to go up in there to put it out..but the structural integrity is not there."
#188. To: AGAviator (#155)
a NYPD fireman
#208. To: 2big2fail (#188)
a NYPD fireman What is an NYPD fireman?
PFD
#212. To: AGAviator, 2big2fail (#208)
a NYPD fireman What is an NYPD fireman?
#234. To: Original_Intent, buckeroo, turtle, critter (#212)
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The correct appellation is "FDNY" or Fire Department New York.
#239. To: AGAviator (#234)
I can see you've been reduced to nit picking and pettifogging over spelling minutiae in place of issues, Six Percenter.
#249. To: Original_Intent, buckeroo, turtle (#239)
I am reduced to pointing out that you are an idiot who has hissy fits over things he obviously hasn't spent much time studying.
#258. To: AGAviator (#249)
Is my explicit video of an NY City Fireman totally sending your k00k theories of controlled demolition of WTC 7 down the toilet a hissy fit, pettifogger?
#265. To: FormerLurker (#258)
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You mean any of THESE NY City Firemen?
#274. To: AGAviator, ALL (#265)
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Your k00k theory is about controlled demolitions bringing a building down, not "secondary explosions" caused by uncontrolled fires fed by tens of thousands of diesel fuel burning through an office building for several hours.
#286. To: FormerLurker (#274)
Besides, the South Tower collapsed at 9:59, and was struck at 9:03, so the fires in that building only burned for 56 minutes, not even an hour, far short of the "several hours" you toss around as if it were fact.
#288. To: AGAviator (#286)
Which makes your claims of the crashes not playing any factor in the subsequent collapses even less supportable.
#289. To: FormerLurker (#288)
I just proved you were full of shit, yet you claim I "rebutted myself"?
#296. To: AGAviator (#289)
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You're now stating that the crashes and subsequent building collapses happened within under a couple hours but are totally unrelated.
#321. To: FormerLurker, buckeroo, turtle, critter (#296)
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You stated that there were "uncontrolled fires fed by tens of thousands of diesel fuel burning through an office building for several hours"
#343. To: AGAviator (#321)
WTC 7 had more than 20,000 gallons feeding an uninterruped power supply with self-contained pumps continually pushing the diesel through a severed feed line until all tanks were totally empty.
#344. To: FormerLurker, buckeroo, (#343)
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Really?
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#349. To: AGAviator, FormerLurker, Dakmar, all (#344)
And do your own research instead of demanding I do it for you. Nobody needs to convince you idiots of anything, because you're irrelevant.
spun explained away by using the tips and tricks of the "Less than Amazing Randi"?
#383. To: AGAviator (#344)
What a little faggot you are.
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