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Title: Why I Don't Have Any Use for Truthers
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Published: Jul 9, 2010
Author: Turtle
Post Date: 2010-07-09 11:35:19 by Turtle
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Poster Comment: This woman had sulfuric acid thrown in her face by guess who? Someone engaging in Typical Negro Behavior. They do this out of envy. "I can't get this woman, so nobody can have her." He got life in prison. These are the real problems, not hallucinations abour remote-controlled airplanes and bombs in towers.
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#1. To: Turtle (#0)
Any other nominations for the most stupid post of the year??
There is no long form.
Horrific tragedy, and I mean that sincerely having two daughters of my own, but it is unfortunate [or something else] that you can't see the forest for the trees.
"...as long as there..remain active enemies of the Christian church, we may hope to become Master of the World...the future Jewish King will never reign in the world before Christianity is overthrown - B'nai B'rith speech http://www.biblebelievers.org.au/luther.htm / http://bible.cc/psalms/83-4.htm
That's really some stupid $#it. How does either thing relate to the other? I see no connection. And it's interesting that you "have no use for truthers." You like liars? If you like liars you must worship at Bush's and now Obama's throne.
Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end. He (Gordon Duff) also implies that forcibly removing Obama, a Constitution-hating, on-the-down-low, crackhead Communist, is an attack on America, Mom, and apple pie. I swear these military people are worse than useless. Just look around at the condition of the country and tell me if they have fulfilled their oaths to protect the nation from all enemies foreign and domestic. While I am not a truther and believe it is a waste of time to argue back and forth an issue that cannot and will never be proven one way or the other, I do not pretend to assume that I have the right to dictate what is and what is not important to other people. It's not my place nor is it yours. No one really gives a damn why you don't have any use for truthers.
"The Central Intelligence Agency owns everyone of any significance in the major media." ~ William Colby, Director, CIA 1973–1976 Nothing in the State, everything outside the State, everything against the State - Jan Lester, Escape From Leviathan "When plunder becomes a way of life for a group of men living together in society, they create for themselves in the course of time a legal system that authorizes it and a moral code that justifies it." - Frederic Bastiat Good order results spontaneously when things are let alone. - Zhuangzi
The one on the left threw the acid in her face. It was caught on a street camera. The one on the right helped him. Life in prison. Small consolation for her.
St. Ausgustine on the State: "It was a criminal band that achieved legitimacy not by renouncing aggression, but rather by attaining impunity."
Possibly Turtle is demonstrating the time, energy and concern shown for one fact of life as compared to another. For instance, 9/11 concerned thousands of people as the result of a one day event. The young lady stands alone. Both tragic events as a result of hatred. The 9/11 event most likely was a one time affair, the haters turning to different people and places. No ONE person singled out. On the other hand the acid attack can and will be faced every day forward in this country all because of color, no other crime or personal slight. The odds of my being the victim of another 9/11 are very slim, the odds of an attack of some sort because of my color is much, much higher.
what does your title have to do with this story?
You're right. Arguing about 9/11 is a distraction. You say there were no bombs in the towers, I say there were, and so what? You have your opinions, I have mine. None of us have all the pertinent facts, including you. Some just think they do and don't like it when you argue with them. Niggers are more of an imminent threat. That is a fact, not an opinion. They are the real domestic terrorists. But we all know DHS doesn't care about real terrorism. .
Click for Privacy and Preparedness files Live free or They do it in Africa too; imported people, imported crime. If there's anything good about the truther stuff, it's getting people thinking about false flags. The "greatest generation" was too damn trusting. Otherwise, I agree. Total distraction. Yeah, it might well have been Mossad. Probably was, IMO. But then, I don't give a shit about NYC. It's an outpost of the turd world.
"Aba daba daba daba daba daba daba" said the chimp-y to the monk.
Fuck NYC. I'm sorry those people died, but it's the financial cesspool of the US and has been damaging the rest of the country for several decades.
St. Ausgustine on the State: "It was a criminal band that achieved legitimacy not by renouncing aggression, but rather by attaining impunity."
To say that one "has no use for truthers" (people who insist on being told the truth as opposed to people content to hear lies I guess) and superimposing one event on the other like that, when neither are related, makes no sense to me.
Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end. He (Gordon Duff) also implies that forcibly removing Obama, a Constitution-hating, on-the-down-low, crackhead Communist, is an attack on America, Mom, and apple pie. I swear these military people are worse than useless. Just look around at the condition of the country and tell me if they have fulfilled their oaths to protect the nation from all enemies foreign and domestic. Yes and yes. I don't believe all the "truther" stuff, but I DO believe that much of the truth "behind-the-scenes" is being witheld from the public. I'm more along the lines of a *Pearl Harbor Truther*: it's the events/politics leading up to a real attack that intrigue me.
__________________________________________________________ How so? I believe the Truthers are a government operation to distract people from the problems, such as what happened to this woman. I've said this before: I will give Truthers ten thousand years to prove their case. They'll never do ti. But attacks by subhumans...they're going to increase.
St. Ausgustine on the State: "It was a criminal band that achieved legitimacy not by renouncing aggression, but rather by attaining impunity."
So Turdle, are you and Hal Turner close friends? Any handlers in common? Isn't it amazing what some people will do for money? Oh, by the way I've seen the blonde's picture before in a different context. The other readily apparent difference is that the ears are not the same. Ears are a distinctive feature on a lot of people. Despite the damage to her face they should bear at least some resemblance, but the structure is not at all the same. I notice also that you did not provide a URL source. I'm calling Bullshit unless you can provide a source Got Agitprop?
"One of the least understood strategies of the world revolution now moving rapidly toward its goal is the use of mind control as a major means of obtaining the consent of the people who will be subjects of the New World Order." K.M. Heaton, The National Educator
I've said this before: I will give Truthers ten thousand years to prove their case. They'll never do ti. But attacks by subhumans...they're going to increase. Nice spin - a double back flip with a twist. Of course people, thousands of people, who have noticed all of the hundreds of outpoints in the government PsyOp called 911 work for the government. Tell us Turdle, just between us, do you think everybody but you works for the government? Got Martians?
"One of the least understood strategies of the world revolution now moving rapidly toward its goal is the use of mind control as a major means of obtaining the consent of the people who will be subjects of the New World Order." K.M. Heaton, The National Educator
Mr. Shellback, I'm going to go out on a limb here and suggest that you're feeling depressed, isolated, fearful and angry. I remember when Clinton actually kept a campaign promise and cut some welfare benefits. I was working in a field that took me to many hospitals and institutions, and every time I got on an elevator with or passed blacks in the halls they scowled with a burning hatred for my honky ass. And, you can bet that this economy has got poor (and dumb, and uninspired, and lazy, and the perpetual victim class) blacks feeling angry. This coupled with the message that "rich and popular black men can have pretty white wimmen but ewe kan't" results in these types of attacks. (if they're envious and angry they'll rape white women, but if they're especially hate-filled they commit unspeakable crimes against the very people they won't admit to objectifying) You seem to be boiling with a similar anger. Are you? You seem to want to convince us that you're better than the nigs who commit horrible crimes like this. And you seem to be trying to convince yourself that "If you ain't better than a nig then who are you better than?" And to maximize the reach of your lash you use a non sequitur headline that is aimed at another group you frequently target. I can only guess at the message you're unknowingly telegraphing, but I'm confident that even the pros would agree that it's a disturbing one.
I can understand that. Turtle is a rather complex rascal. He does not tolerate "truthers" to any degree which is inappropriate, however I understand that so much disinformation has been added to the cauldron that to accept it in totality is no longer feasible. For instance, one segment insists that an aircraft did NOT impact the Pentagon. Such nonsense clouds the whole picture, dilutes the real interest and serves to make all "truthers" look foolish. The people behind 9/11 love the confusion and wasted effort.
You any relation to a guy goes by the name of Newswatcher?
There is no long form.
Any handlers in common? Isn't it amazing what some people will do for money? I agree that there may be, probably is, people posting here who have handlers. And I'm sure if we all threw out some names there would be many in common. That said, I don't believe turtle is one of them. Course none of us really know the others on this forum even if we have spoken with them privately. I remember a well known poster here insisting that I was a government agent. Laughable at best. And in the same month on two different forums I was alternately accused of being an apologist for Israel and anti Semitic. Hmmm, can you be both?
"With respect to the words general welfare, I have always regarded them as qualified by the detail of powers connected with them. To take them in a literal and unlimited sense would be a metamorphosis of the Constitution into a character which there is a host of proofs was not contemplated by its creators." If the word "truther" is used to describe people who want to know the truth about what happened on 9/11 and not just accept the most insane conspiracy of all--the one the government pushes--I would have to accept that label. I guess I have two strikes against me, at least in the eyes of some. I am a "truther" and a "birther" because I want the truth about 9/11 and I want to see Obama's actual birth certificate (a real one that hasn't been doctored will probably prove he was born in Kenya just like his grandmother said).
Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end. He (Gordon Duff) also implies that forcibly removing Obama, a Constitution-hating, on-the-down-low, crackhead Communist, is an attack on America, Mom, and apple pie. I swear these military people are worse than useless. Just look around at the condition of the country and tell me if they have fulfilled their oaths to protect the nation from all enemies foreign and domestic. I notice also that you did not provide a URL source. I'm calling Bullshit unless you can provide a source Got Agitprop? Typical denial mode of a classic CT windbag fuckwit. Harping on minutiae, using self-proclaimed expertise to allege the evidence isn't credible, then using prefab denials citing self as authoritative expert, to dismiss the subject out of hand. And throwing in a little scatological dig ("Turdle") in the process. Here's the link, maroon. Now what do you have to say? ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ One of the major consequences of the 9/11 movement has been to draw enormous amounts of energy and effort away from activism directed to real and ongoing crimes of state, and their institutional background, crimes that are far more serious than blowing up the WTC would be, if there were any credibility to that thesis. That is, I suspect, why the 9/11 movement is treated far more tolerantly by centers of power than is the norm for serious critical and activist work. Noam Chomsky
Not at all. Seekers of the truth are always to be respected. The Turtle would deny and demean all of them, that is unacceptable. However, some refuse to discredit any portion of the theories projected by the truthers and that also is wrong. I tend to rely on this, did this government have prior knowledge of and or participate in 9/11??????? I would say the odds favor yes and I accept that. Argue about the nuts and bots involved in the crime???? NO, it only confuses the issue and enables the bad guys.
Having gotten to a stage in life where I have neither patience nor time for tact, I'll just leave it at "you're a fucking idiot".
I can recall news reports of similar events, they are rare, where the perp was white. All this proves is that there is at least one deranged ex-boyfriend in the world. It proves absolutely nothing else. I take it you guys are trying to divert from the other thread where you had your heads handed to you on that stupid conspiracy theory about "19ArabsWhoHateUsCuzWe'reFree" being directed by a mad mullah in a cave in the remote mountains of far Afghanistan with his Magic Cellphone© that were able to hijack 4 airliners, without one of them giving a 4 digit 2 second hijack code, with box cutters and then leisurely joyride in the most controlled and monitored airspace on the planet and then with the precision of Master Pilots (which is pretty slick since they were all known incompetents as pilots and had never flown anything larger than a single engine propeller driven Cessna 172) fly them around for two hours without being intercepted, then with precision fly them into major buildings {and even more miraculously they able to take down 3 Buildings with 2 planes in new york - and presumably the "Psychic Friends Network was on the phone to both CNN and BBC as both reported the collapse of building 7 before it happened, as well despite a minimum of 13 warnings from other foreign intelligence agencies the government had no clue that such an event could be considered or possibly happen (as per White House Spokesliar Ari Fourflusher at a White House News Conference, despite having two years earlier recovered a hard drive from the Phillipines which detailed this exact scenario)}. You conspiracy kooks are just too rich.
"One of the least understood strategies of the world revolution now moving rapidly toward its goal is the use of mind control as a major means of obtaining the consent of the people who will be subjects of the New World Order." K.M. Heaton, The National Educator
I suppose you shall be emailing me to provide a method and easy mechanisms to invade turtle's emails (and perhaps place a little non-preemptive ICON on his screen so as to provide a mechanism to monitor turtle's web activities.) This is going to be GREAT fun! Already, I have turtle's screen background: I will be digging deeper into his psyche; but don't hold your breath for me to get back to you in a jiffy.
"we ought to lay off the criticism" -- Pinguinite, circa 2010-05-26 22:17:22 ET
9/11 wasn't just about NYC and people are still dying and suffering over it. Do you even care how many or who or why? Thousands upon thousands and that's not horrific enough for people who also want to bury the dead in lies or couldn't care less if they are. We thought the Truth would stop it but people like you want to stand in the way. Why? So you can sweep all of the casualties and carnage since then from your mind as "justified" and "unavoidable" based on the imagery of one plane that day and a story told to us from "on high". You don't have any use for Truthers? lol Lots of supposed Truthers and their gurus don't either. They ordered a stand down so they could short sell the Truth in the interest of popular opinion and marketing values. People like me aren't blocking them from pursuing Justice and neither are people like you. They just don't because that wasn't really on their agenda. People like you work for the war drummers, whether you admit it to yourselves or not.
------- "They're on our left, they're on our right, they're in front of us, they're behind us...they can't get away this time." -- Col. Puller, USMC
No, pathological lying fuckwit, on this thread you just stepped into a pile of your own making by claiming "I call bullshit, give me a link." Now that I've given you a link, your story changes to "All this proves is that there is at least one deranged ex-boyfriend in the world. It proves absolutely nothing else" and then a segue to your usual word dump, of off-topic irrelevant side issues. If your "all this proves" dismissal applies, you shouldn't have made your baseless accusation, and demanded proof you wouldn't accept once it was given. Your constantly shifting pompous tailored dissertations to feebly try to make yourself look better are on full display. Clue to the clueless: The less you say, and the more on topic you stay, the better you will look.
------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ One of the major consequences of the 9/11 movement has been to draw enormous amounts of energy and effort away from activism directed to real and ongoing crimes of state, and their institutional background, crimes that are far more serious than blowing up the WTC would be, if there were any credibility to that thesis. That is, I suspect, why the 9/11 movement is treated far more tolerantly by centers of power than is the norm for serious critical and activist work. Noam Chomsky
Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end. He (Gordon Duff) also implies that forcibly removing Obama, a Constitution-hating, on-the-down-low, crackhead Communist, is an attack on America, Mom, and apple pie. I swear these military people are worse than useless. Just look around at the condition of the country and tell me if they have fulfilled their oaths to protect the nation from all enemies foreign and domestic. deleted
The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one.
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The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one.
Other than your having a nasty habit of speaking when not spoken to, I'm ambivalent about you either way, buck. As lunatics go, you're an affable enough one. Turtle, I give less than a fuck about, he just posts douchey, ill-informed shit I have to wade through during my sojourns here. Besides, why would I ask you anyway? You've proven damn near worthless in turning up anything on my two pet project idiots, yukdouche and Mad Dog. I'm writing performance reviews for my staff right now. If I was evaluating you on your cybersleuthing, you'd get a "Needs Improvement", which pisses me off, because now I have to write up a development plan and coach you, etc. Only two things get my attention in any tangible way: payday or pussy, to put it bluntly. Anything else is just idle diversions with which I amuse myself.
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The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one.
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On the contrary, I'm not angry at all. Annoyed, yes However, I can see what is happening to this country. It is not the same country I grew up in. I never in my life thought I'd had to point a pistol at a bunch of niggers attacking me in the street, which I had to do once. Or chase one around a parking lot in my car, which I also did once. What is this, Grand Torino? What exactly do you think of some monkey who throws sulfuric acid in a beautful woman's face because he can't have her and makes to make sure no one
St. Ausgustine on the State: "It was a criminal band that achieved legitimacy not by renouncing aggression, but rather by attaining impunity."
OMG! A beautiful woman and TWO pugs!
St. Ausgustine on the State: "It was a criminal band that achieved legitimacy not by renouncing aggression, but rather by attaining impunity."
I admire O_I's continuing stamina of being beaten to a bloody pulp, time after time. At the very least, you have to give the guy some credit.
"we ought to lay off the criticism" -- Pinguinite, circa 2010-05-26 22:17:22 ET
Having gotten to a stage in life where I have neither patience nor time for tact, I'll just leave it at "you're a fucking idiot". Do you by any chance live in a all-white town?
St. Ausgustine on the State: "It was a criminal band that achieved legitimacy not by renouncing aggression, but rather by attaining impunity."
I live near a major PhD granting university in a town of about 200,000 in a middle class neighborhood. One neighbor is black, another is Pakistani, most are white. The guy who sells donuts down the street (and owns six or eight convenience stores) is Indian. My barber is an 86 year old ex-Marine and two of my colleagues are naturalized citizens born in Africa (Malawi and Ghana, I believe). I'm somewhat absent minded at times and forget to lock doors, or will just throw my truck key in the seat or floorboard (there's two in little magnetic boxes in the wheel wells anyway). I'm on a first name basis with the family who runs the Greek restaurant, the Indian spice shop and the Armenian/Italian guy who makes the best pizza on the planet. Ditto for the black former NFL player who opened a barbecue joint on Main. It also used to be a 'sundown town', as well. What's your point (and I only idly ask because it's pouring rain and my afternoon plans of blackberry picking are delayed)?
Having gotten to a stage in life where I have neither patience nor time for tact, I'll just leave it at "you're a fucking idiot". Do you by any chance live in a all-white town? Do you live in an all-white Trailer Park?
"One of the least understood strategies of the world revolution now moving rapidly toward its goal is the use of mind control as a major means of obtaining the consent of the people who will be subjects of the New World Order." K.M. Heaton, The National Educator
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#2. To: Turtle (#0)
#3. To: Turtle (#0)
Lord Acton
OsamaBinGoldstein posted on 2010-05-25 9:39:59 ET (2 images) Reply Trace
#4. To: Turtle (#0)
#5. To: All (#0)
#6. To: James Deffenbach, randge (#3)
That's really some stupid $#it. How does either thing relate to the other?
#7. To: Turtle (#0)
#8. To: Turtle (#0)
These are the real problems, not hallucinations abour remote-controlled airplanes and bombs in towers.
CHIMPOUT!
die kill ~~ Me
God is a separatist. That's good enough for me.
#9. To: Turtle (#0)
#10. To: Prefrontal Vortex (#9)
Yeah, it might well have been Mossad. Probably was, IMO. But then, I don't give a shit about NYC. It's an outpost of the turd world.
#11. To: Cynicom (#6)
Lord Acton
OsamaBinGoldstein posted on 2010-05-25 9:39:59 ET (2 images) Reply Trace
#12. To: Prefrontal Vortex, Turtle (#9)
Obama is the miscegenated bastard of a white communist whore. True story.
-Schweizerische Schuetzenzeitung (Swiss Shooting Federation) April, 1941
#13. To: randge (#1)
Any other nominations for the most stupid post of the year??
#14. To: Turdle, Turtle, christine, AllTheKingsHorses, all (#0)
#15. To: Turtle, randge, all (#13)
I believe the Truthers are a government operation to distract people from the problems, such as what happened to this woman.
#16. To: Turtle (#0)
#17. To: James Deffenbach (#11)
, makes no sense to me.
#18. To: Turtle (#13)
#19. To: Original_Intent, Turtle, christine, AllTheKingsHorses, flintlock (#14)
So Turdle, are you and Hal Turner close friends?
James Madison, Letter to James Robertson, April 20, 1831
#20. To: Cynicom (#17)
Lord Acton
OsamaBinGoldstein posted on 2010-05-25 9:39:59 ET (2 images) Reply Trace
#21. To: turtle, Original_Intent, buckeroo (#14)
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The other readily apparent difference is that the ears are not the same. Ears are a distinctive feature on a lot of people. Despite the damage to her face they should bear at least some resemblance, but the structure is not at all the same.
#22. To: James Deffenbach (#20)
. I guess I have two strikes against me,
#23. To: Turtle (#0)
Someone engaging in Typical Negro Behavior.
#24. To: AGAviator, FormerLurker, X-15, wudidiz, James Deffenbach, buckeroo, turdle, christine, all (#21)
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#25. To: Samuel Gray (#23)
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To turtle: Having gotten to a stage in life where I have neither patience nor time for tact, I'll just leave it at "you're a fucking idiot".
#26. To: Turtle (#10)
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#27. To: Original_Intent, turtle, buckeroo (#24)
I take it you guys are trying to divert from the other thread where you had your heads handed to you on that stupid conspiracy theory about "19ArabsWhoHateUsCuzWe'reFree" being directed by a mad mullah in a cave
#28. To: Original_Intent, Turtle (#14)
Lord Acton
OsamaBinGoldstein posted on 2010-05-25 9:39:59 ET (2 images) Reply Trace
#29. To: randge (#1)
#30. To: X-15 (#12)
#31. To: Original_Intent (#15)
#32. To: Cynicom, All (#22)
#33. To: buckeroo (#25)
#34. To: Original_Intent (#24)
#35. To: Samuel Gray (#33)
#36. To: HOUNDDAWG (#16)
You seem to be boiling with a similar anger.
#37. To: buckeroo (#25)
#38. To: AGAviator, Original_Intent (#27)
Now that I've given you a link, your story changes to "All this proves is that there is at least one deranged ex-boyfriend in the world. It proves absolutely nothing else" and then a segue to your usual word dump, of off-topic irrelevant side issues.
#39. To: Samuel Gray (#23)
Someone engaging in Typical Negro Behavior.
#40. To: Turtle (#39)
#41. To: Turtle, Samuel Gray (#39)
Someone engaging in Typical Negro Behavior.
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