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Title: Why I Don't Have Any Use for Truthers
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Published: Jul 9, 2010
Author: Turtle
Post Date: 2010-07-09 11:35:19 by Turtle
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Views: 28026
Comments: 879
Poster Comment: This woman had sulfuric acid thrown in her face by guess who? Someone engaging in Typical Negro Behavior. They do this out of envy. "I can't get this woman, so nobody can have her." He got life in prison. These are the real problems, not hallucinations abour remote-controlled airplanes and bombs in towers.
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#382. To: AGAviator (#379)
Tell me how many hours you have as a pilot. My Father was a fighter pilot and airline pilot. I was around the Military for 20 years. If the U.S. Airforce wanted those planes removed from the sky, they would be removed from the sky. Period.
So if I'm a little faggot, what's that make you? Projection appears to be your forte here, perhaps your ass is a bit sore today?
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The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one.
I've said that at the time the 911 hijackings happened, All had to have taken place within 20-40 minutes for "first time" occurrences. Ridiculous.
------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ One of the major consequences of the 9/11 movement has been to draw enormous amounts of energy and effort away from activism directed to real and ongoing crimes of state, and their institutional background, crimes that are far more serious than blowing up the WTC would be, if there were any credibility to that thesis. That is, I suspect, why the 9/11 movement is treated far more tolerantly by centers of power than is the norm for serious critical and activist work. Noam Chomsky
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Arguing with them is perhaps pointless as far as getting them to change their minds. Then when they get angry due to "getting their wires crossed" or WhateverTF it is that's going on, they project. Hence the name calling. Personally I find the circular arguments and the intellectual dishonesty tiresome and boring.
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If the hijackers had 60, the Airforce had 60. Fighters should have been up there following those planes within 15 minutes. They weren't because they weren't ordered to.
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We could start a music thread.
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Someone who's given you sufficient amounts of information you can't rebut to start on your tactics in the first place.
------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ One of the major consequences of the 9/11 movement has been to draw enormous amounts of energy and effort away from activism directed to real and ongoing crimes of state, and their institutional background, crimes that are far more serious than blowing up the WTC would be, if there were any credibility to that thesis. That is, I suspect, why the 9/11 movement is treated far more tolerantly by centers of power than is the norm for serious critical and activist work. Noam Chomsky
Fighters should have been up there following those planes within 15 minutes. They weren't because they weren't ordered to. 911 Myths: 67 NORAD Intercepts With passengers and crew unconscious from cabin decompression, the plane lost radio contact but remained in transponder contact until it crashed. Even so, it took an F-16 1 hour and 22 minutes to reach the stricken jet. Rules in effect back then, and on 9/11, prohibited supersonic flight on intercepts. Prior to 9/11, all other NORAD interceptions were limited to offshore Air Defense Identification Zones (ADIZ). "Until 9/11 there was no domestic ADIZ," ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ One of the major consequences of the 9/11 movement has been to draw enormous amounts of energy and effort away from activism directed to real and ongoing crimes of state, and their institutional background, crimes that are far more serious than blowing up the WTC would be, if there were any credibility to that thesis. That is, I suspect, why the 9/11 movement is treated far more tolerantly by centers of power than is the norm for serious critical and activist work. Noam Chomsky
You don't give information, you give BS and use already discredited claims as your "proof". You ignore anything that doesn't suit your world view, and tap dance around hoping to impress the easily amused. The only "rebut" you have is what you get from your boyfriend "Re" each evening.
Once again, little faggot, bring your own shit and psycodramas onto the thread. Origially you challenged me to produce a link about 20,000 gallons of fuel feeding uncontrolled WTC 7 fires for hours. Then you tried to protect your pathetic little bottom by saying "Even if true" at the end. I told you do your own research. You posed the question over 10 hours ago. Instead of getting your own answer you continued on the personal attack the speaker level even though the information is freely available all over the sections of the internet that are not dominated by k00ks. I say again. The WTC 7 building fires were fed by over 20,000 gallons of fuel for emergency power supplies. So prove me wrong, little faggot, and stop your blithering about anybody else but you and your fellow k00ks being liars and discredited claims. And keep your fagtalk to your fellow circlejerks.
------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ One of the major consequences of the 9/11 movement has been to draw enormous amounts of energy and effort away from activism directed to real and ongoing crimes of state, and their institutional background, crimes that are far more serious than blowing up the WTC would be, if there were any credibility to that thesis. That is, I suspect, why the 9/11 movement is treated far more tolerantly by centers of power than is the norm for serious critical and activist work. Noam Chomsky
As opposed to chiming in with sarcasm on occasion, why not add some facts to support your doubts and suspicions? It will make you feel like an accomplished poster!
"we ought to lay off the criticism" -- Pinguinite, circa 2010-05-26 22:17:22 ET
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....oh the irony....
Bullshit. Andrews AFB is right next to DC, and they ALWAYS have jets on standby in case there's an urgent need. They had TWO sqaudrons on alert that morning. But no, instead, they had jets sitting on the tarmac at at Langley, which is 130 miles away, going to battle stations at 9:09 shortly after the 2nd jet hits the WTC, and a good 15 minutes after jets are scrambled out of OTIS AFB in Massachusetts. They then launched them at 9:24, flew them over the ocean for a bit, then decidedto mosy them over towards DC at about 410 mph, whereas they can fly at 1500+ mph. Flight 77 didn't impact the Pentagon till 9:43 that morning. the jets from Langley get there at 9:49. If they had flown straight to DC at top speed, they could have been there before it was too late. THAT, or if they had launched out of Andrews, they would have already been in position to do something.
They actually need an "eebil gubmint" to premise all their arguments on. Without it they offer no facts and inferences to base any sensible conclusions on. And also, the "eebil gubmint" needs to be able to point to gaggles of k00ks and say "Look at our opposition!" In psychology, this condition is called "co-dependency." ROTFL!
------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ One of the major consequences of the 9/11 movement has been to draw enormous amounts of energy and effort away from activism directed to real and ongoing crimes of state, and their institutional background, crimes that are far more serious than blowing up the WTC would be, if there were any credibility to that thesis. That is, I suspect, why the 9/11 movement is treated far more tolerantly by centers of power than is the norm for serious critical and activist work. Noam Chomsky
Isn't irony ironic?
Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end. He (Gordon Duff) also implies that forcibly removing Obama, a Constitution-hating, on-the-down-low, crackhead Communist, is an attack on America, Mom, and apple pie. I swear these military people are worse than useless. Just look around at the condition of the country and tell me if they have fulfilled their oaths to protect the nation from all enemies foreign and domestic. More bullshit. The fact is, not only they were PRACTICING that very scenario that morning, injecting false radar blips on FAA screens to indicate hijacked aircraft, but the NRO had an evacuation planned that morning as part of a drill on how to respond to a hijacked aircraft BEING USED AS A MISSLE.
Osama bin Laden himself was DEAD in DEC. 2001.
There are radio transcripts of fighters being instructed en route to get there and "I don't care how many windows you break," i.e. fly supersonic which was a complete departure from previous regulations. They were still too late even with that instruction.
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WT-7 was falling from the concussion of the twin towers. Why do you think that was made up?
"we ought to lay off the criticism" -- Pinguinite, circa 2010-05-26 22:17:22 ET
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Prove it. The October 2004 message is entirely consistent with Bin Laden interviews and fatwahs given throughout the 1990's, including statements he made after the twin bombings of US Embassies in Africa, and an attack on a US base in Saudi Arabia. Its statement that US policies and military industrial complex are the culprits can in no way be called a USG official government story. The OBL image is also very similar and consistent, with only cherry-picked selective editing by CT's being claimed to not be the same person. And they offer no voice analysis either. Just the usual grabbing for any pretext to deny information any reasonable person will consider settled.
------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ One of the major consequences of the 9/11 movement has been to draw enormous amounts of energy and effort away from activism directed to real and ongoing crimes of state, and their institutional background, crimes that are far more serious than blowing up the WTC would be, if there were any credibility to that thesis. That is, I suspect, why the 9/11 movement is treated far more tolerantly by centers of power than is the norm for serious critical and activist work. Noam Chomsky
it looks to be a don't feed the troll warning
How many intercepts in US airspace prior to 911? How many supersonic intercepts in US airspace prior to 911? How long over 15 minutes did it take USAF fighters to intercept Payne Stewart's out of control, but on autopilot and prefiled IFR route, with transponder on, Gulfstream prior to 911?
------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ One of the major consequences of the 9/11 movement has been to draw enormous amounts of energy and effort away from activism directed to real and ongoing crimes of state, and their institutional background, crimes that are far more serious than blowing up the WTC would be, if there were any credibility to that thesis. That is, I suspect, why the 9/11 movement is treated far more tolerantly by centers of power than is the norm for serious critical and activist work. Noam Chomsky
Everyone knows government on all levels is inefficient and creates absurd power out of majickal pixie dust from a silly majority opinion. And this has lead to a lot of sarcasm and distrust about government. I certainly know this is true and I wager you do too. However, American government is not performing a method to murder innocent women and children; nor has it ever done so. The argument is silly.
"we ought to lay off the criticism" -- Pinguinite, circa 2010-05-26 22:17:22 ET
Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end. He (Gordon Duff) also implies that forcibly removing Obama, a Constitution-hating, on-the-down-low, crackhead Communist, is an attack on America, Mom, and apple pie. I swear these military people are worse than useless. Just look around at the condition of the country and tell me if they have fulfilled their oaths to protect the nation from all enemies foreign and domestic. Prove it.
"we ought to lay off the criticism" -- Pinguinite, circa 2010-05-26 22:17:22 ET
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You work for them, enjoy!
WWGPD? - (What Would General Pinochet Do?)
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Top • Page Up • Full Thread • Page Down • Bottom/LatestYou clearly know nothing about aviation procedures or the facts on the ground on that day, before, during, and after the hijackings.
“It has been said, 'time heals all wounds.' I do not agree. The wounds remain. In time, the mind, protecting its sanity, covers them with scar tissue and the pain lessens, but it is never gone.” ~ Rose F. Kennedy
#383. To: AGAviator (#344)
What a little faggot you are.
"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
#384. To: AGAviator, All (#379)
#385. To: FormerLurker, wududiz, buckeroo, turtle, critter (#381)
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So you're saying that there is no air defense in this nation capable of protecting the national capital, eh?
(1) The USAF was principally charged with protecting the country from external threats,
So the USAF had 20-60 minutes to figure out a hijacking took place, figure out it was dangerous new type of suicide mission, clear thousands of regular craft from the sky, scramble jets, get vectors on hijacked planes flying with transponders off, guess destinations, and intercept the hijacked aircraft.
(2) All civilian USA air traffic is controlled by the FAA, not the USAF, so any USAF actions would have to be done in conjunction with the FAA,
(3) The existing hijacking scenarios presumed the aircraft transponders would be secretly squawked to 7500 and not turned off causing the signatures to completely disappear from the screen,
(4) The existing hijacking scenarios presumed hijacked planes would land somewhere, not be turned into suicide bombs traveling at 450- 500 knots to crash into targets, and
(5) OBL himself says in his October 2004 interview the hijackers were trained to finish their missions within 20 minutes, but due to Bush being more concerned with a goat butting story than airplanes butting the WTC, the hijackers had 60 minutes and not 20 to complete their tasks. Which they didn't comletely need though they did take more than 20
#386. To: AGAviator, All (#378)
#387. To: wudidiz (#380)
#388. To: wudidiz (#380)
#389. To: Eric Stratton, FormerLurker (#388)
“It has been said, 'time heals all wounds.' I do not agree. The wounds remain. In time, the mind, protecting its sanity, covers them with scar tissue and the pain lessens, but it is never gone.” ~ Rose F. Kennedy
#390. To: wudidiz (#389)
#391. To: AGAviator, *9-11* (#385)
the hijackers had 60 minutes and not 20 to complete their tasks
“It has been said, 'time heals all wounds.' I do not agree. The wounds remain. In time, the mind, protecting its sanity, covers them with scar tissue and the pain lessens, but it is never gone.” ~ Rose F. Kennedy
#392. To: wudidiz (#391)
#393. To: Eric Stratton (#392)
“It has been said, 'time heals all wounds.' I do not agree. The wounds remain. In time, the mind, protecting its sanity, covers them with scar tissue and the pain lessens, but it is never gone.” ~ Rose F. Kennedy
#394. To: wudidiz (#393)
#395. To: FormerLurker (#383)
So if I'm a little faggot, what's that make you?
#396. To: wudidiz (#391)
If the hijackers had 60, the Airforce had 60.
In the decade before 9/11, NORAD intercepted only one civilian plane over North America: golfer Payne Stewart's Learjet, in October 1999.
#397. To: AGAviator (#395)
Someone who's given you sufficient amounts of information you can't rebut to start on your tactics in the first place.
"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
#398. To: FormerLurker, turtle, buckeroo, critter (#397)
#399. To: Eric Stratton, AGAviator (#384)
Otherwise, fine, have it your way, there was no coverup, no hurry to dispense with evidence, all of the firefighters and police on video were obviously delusional all day long, and our Government can be fully trusted.
#400. To: Original_Intent, *9-11* (#399)
“It has been said, 'time heals all wounds.' I do not agree. The wounds remain. In time, the mind, protecting its sanity, covers them with scar tissue and the pain lessens, but it is never gone.” ~ Rose F. Kennedy
#401. To: buckeroo, Eric Stratton (#399)
As opposed to chiming in with sarcasm on occasion, why not add some facts.....
“It has been said, 'time heals all wounds.' I do not agree. The wounds remain. In time, the mind, protecting its sanity, covers them with scar tissue and the pain lessens, but it is never gone.” ~ Rose F. Kennedy
#402. To: AGAviator (#385)
So the USAF had 20-60 minutes to figure out a hijacking took place, figure out it was dangerous new type of suicide mission, clear thousands of regular craft from the sky, scramble jets, get vectors on hijacked planes flying with transponders off, guess destinations, and intercept the hijacked aircraft. All had to have taken place within 20-40 minutes for "first time" occurrences.
"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
#403. To: buckeroo (#399)
As opposed to chiming in with sarcasm on occasion, why not add some facts to support your doubts and suspicions?
#404. To: wudidiz (#401)
Lord Acton
OsamaBinGoldstein posted on 2010-05-25 9:39:59 ET (2 images) Reply Trace
#405. To: AGAviator (#385)
The existing hijacking scenarios presumed hijacked planes would land somewhere, not be turned into suicide bombs traveling at 450- 500 knots to crash into targets, and
"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
#406. To: AGAviator (#385)
OBL himself says in his October 2004 interview
"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
#407. To: FormerLurker (#402)
If they had flown straight to DC at top speed, they could have been there before it was too late
#408. To: buckeroo, All (#399)
#409. To: wudidiz (#401)
#410. To: wudidiz (#401)
#411. To: Eric Stratton (#408)
#412. To: FormerLurker (#402)
#413. To: FormerLurker (#406)
Osama bin Laden himself was DEAD in DEC. 2001.
#414. To: Eric Stratton (#356)
computer counted ballots are ballots that have been counted in secret, and with all probability not the way one voted.
#415. To: Eric Stratton (#412)
This charade is just more mental masturbation bullshit for the weakminded blue pillers.
#416. To: AGAviator (#403)
They actually need an "eebil gubmint" to premise all their arguments on.
#417. To: buckeroo (#411)
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Lord Acton
OsamaBinGoldstein posted on 2010-05-25 9:39:59 ET (2 images) Reply Trace
#418. To: AGAviator (#413)
Osama bin Laden himself was DEAD in DEC. 2001.
#419. To: buckeroo (#411)
#420. To: IRTorqued (#414)
#421. To: AGAviator (#403)
"eebil gubmint"
#422. To: AGAviator (#415)
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