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Title: Why I Don't Have Any Use for Truthers
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Published: Jul 9, 2010
Author: Turtle
Post Date: 2010-07-09 11:35:19 by Turtle
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Poster Comment: This woman had sulfuric acid thrown in her face by guess who? Someone engaging in Typical Negro Behavior. They do this out of envy. "I can't get this woman, so nobody can have her." He got life in prison. These are the real problems, not hallucinations abour remote-controlled airplanes and bombs in towers.
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#391. To: AGAviator, *9-11* (#385)
If the hijackers had 60, the Airforce had 60. Fighters should have been up there following those planes within 15 minutes. They weren't because they weren't ordered to.
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We could start a music thread.
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Someone who's given you sufficient amounts of information you can't rebut to start on your tactics in the first place.
------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ One of the major consequences of the 9/11 movement has been to draw enormous amounts of energy and effort away from activism directed to real and ongoing crimes of state, and their institutional background, crimes that are far more serious than blowing up the WTC would be, if there were any credibility to that thesis. That is, I suspect, why the 9/11 movement is treated far more tolerantly by centers of power than is the norm for serious critical and activist work. Noam Chomsky
Fighters should have been up there following those planes within 15 minutes. They weren't because they weren't ordered to. 911 Myths: 67 NORAD Intercepts With passengers and crew unconscious from cabin decompression, the plane lost radio contact but remained in transponder contact until it crashed. Even so, it took an F-16 1 hour and 22 minutes to reach the stricken jet. Rules in effect back then, and on 9/11, prohibited supersonic flight on intercepts. Prior to 9/11, all other NORAD interceptions were limited to offshore Air Defense Identification Zones (ADIZ). "Until 9/11 there was no domestic ADIZ," ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ One of the major consequences of the 9/11 movement has been to draw enormous amounts of energy and effort away from activism directed to real and ongoing crimes of state, and their institutional background, crimes that are far more serious than blowing up the WTC would be, if there were any credibility to that thesis. That is, I suspect, why the 9/11 movement is treated far more tolerantly by centers of power than is the norm for serious critical and activist work. Noam Chomsky
You don't give information, you give BS and use already discredited claims as your "proof". You ignore anything that doesn't suit your world view, and tap dance around hoping to impress the easily amused. The only "rebut" you have is what you get from your boyfriend "Re" each evening.
Once again, little faggot, bring your own shit and psycodramas onto the thread. Origially you challenged me to produce a link about 20,000 gallons of fuel feeding uncontrolled WTC 7 fires for hours. Then you tried to protect your pathetic little bottom by saying "Even if true" at the end. I told you do your own research. You posed the question over 10 hours ago. Instead of getting your own answer you continued on the personal attack the speaker level even though the information is freely available all over the sections of the internet that are not dominated by k00ks. I say again. The WTC 7 building fires were fed by over 20,000 gallons of fuel for emergency power supplies. So prove me wrong, little faggot, and stop your blithering about anybody else but you and your fellow k00ks being liars and discredited claims. And keep your fagtalk to your fellow circlejerks.
------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ One of the major consequences of the 9/11 movement has been to draw enormous amounts of energy and effort away from activism directed to real and ongoing crimes of state, and their institutional background, crimes that are far more serious than blowing up the WTC would be, if there were any credibility to that thesis. That is, I suspect, why the 9/11 movement is treated far more tolerantly by centers of power than is the norm for serious critical and activist work. Noam Chomsky
As opposed to chiming in with sarcasm on occasion, why not add some facts to support your doubts and suspicions? It will make you feel like an accomplished poster!
"we ought to lay off the criticism" -- Pinguinite, circa 2010-05-26 22:17:22 ET
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....oh the irony....
Bullshit. Andrews AFB is right next to DC, and they ALWAYS have jets on standby in case there's an urgent need. They had TWO sqaudrons on alert that morning. But no, instead, they had jets sitting on the tarmac at at Langley, which is 130 miles away, going to battle stations at 9:09 shortly after the 2nd jet hits the WTC, and a good 15 minutes after jets are scrambled out of OTIS AFB in Massachusetts. They then launched them at 9:24, flew them over the ocean for a bit, then decidedto mosy them over towards DC at about 410 mph, whereas they can fly at 1500+ mph. Flight 77 didn't impact the Pentagon till 9:43 that morning. the jets from Langley get there at 9:49. If they had flown straight to DC at top speed, they could have been there before it was too late. THAT, or if they had launched out of Andrews, they would have already been in position to do something.
They actually need an "eebil gubmint" to premise all their arguments on. Without it they offer no facts and inferences to base any sensible conclusions on. And also, the "eebil gubmint" needs to be able to point to gaggles of k00ks and say "Look at our opposition!" In psychology, this condition is called "co-dependency." ROTFL!
------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ One of the major consequences of the 9/11 movement has been to draw enormous amounts of energy and effort away from activism directed to real and ongoing crimes of state, and their institutional background, crimes that are far more serious than blowing up the WTC would be, if there were any credibility to that thesis. That is, I suspect, why the 9/11 movement is treated far more tolerantly by centers of power than is the norm for serious critical and activist work. Noam Chomsky
Isn't irony ironic?
Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end. He (Gordon Duff) also implies that forcibly removing Obama, a Constitution-hating, on-the-down-low, crackhead Communist, is an attack on America, Mom, and apple pie. I swear these military people are worse than useless. Just look around at the condition of the country and tell me if they have fulfilled their oaths to protect the nation from all enemies foreign and domestic. More bullshit. The fact is, not only they were PRACTICING that very scenario that morning, injecting false radar blips on FAA screens to indicate hijacked aircraft, but the NRO had an evacuation planned that morning as part of a drill on how to respond to a hijacked aircraft BEING USED AS A MISSLE.
Osama bin Laden himself was DEAD in DEC. 2001.
There are radio transcripts of fighters being instructed en route to get there and "I don't care how many windows you break," i.e. fly supersonic which was a complete departure from previous regulations. They were still too late even with that instruction.
------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ One of the major consequences of the 9/11 movement has been to draw enormous amounts of energy and effort away from activism directed to real and ongoing crimes of state, and their institutional background, crimes that are far more serious than blowing up the WTC would be, if there were any credibility to that thesis. That is, I suspect, why the 9/11 movement is treated far more tolerantly by centers of power than is the norm for serious critical and activist work. Noam Chomsky
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WT-7 was falling from the concussion of the twin towers. Why do you think that was made up?
"we ought to lay off the criticism" -- Pinguinite, circa 2010-05-26 22:17:22 ET
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Prove it. The October 2004 message is entirely consistent with Bin Laden interviews and fatwahs given throughout the 1990's, including statements he made after the twin bombings of US Embassies in Africa, and an attack on a US base in Saudi Arabia. Its statement that US policies and military industrial complex are the culprits can in no way be called a USG official government story. The OBL image is also very similar and consistent, with only cherry-picked selective editing by CT's being claimed to not be the same person. And they offer no voice analysis either. Just the usual grabbing for any pretext to deny information any reasonable person will consider settled.
------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ One of the major consequences of the 9/11 movement has been to draw enormous amounts of energy and effort away from activism directed to real and ongoing crimes of state, and their institutional background, crimes that are far more serious than blowing up the WTC would be, if there were any credibility to that thesis. That is, I suspect, why the 9/11 movement is treated far more tolerantly by centers of power than is the norm for serious critical and activist work. Noam Chomsky
it looks to be a don't feed the troll warning
How many intercepts in US airspace prior to 911? How many supersonic intercepts in US airspace prior to 911? How long over 15 minutes did it take USAF fighters to intercept Payne Stewart's out of control, but on autopilot and prefiled IFR route, with transponder on, Gulfstream prior to 911?
------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ One of the major consequences of the 9/11 movement has been to draw enormous amounts of energy and effort away from activism directed to real and ongoing crimes of state, and their institutional background, crimes that are far more serious than blowing up the WTC would be, if there were any credibility to that thesis. That is, I suspect, why the 9/11 movement is treated far more tolerantly by centers of power than is the norm for serious critical and activist work. Noam Chomsky
Everyone knows government on all levels is inefficient and creates absurd power out of majickal pixie dust from a silly majority opinion. And this has lead to a lot of sarcasm and distrust about government. I certainly know this is true and I wager you do too. However, American government is not performing a method to murder innocent women and children; nor has it ever done so. The argument is silly.
"we ought to lay off the criticism" -- Pinguinite, circa 2010-05-26 22:17:22 ET
Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end. He (Gordon Duff) also implies that forcibly removing Obama, a Constitution-hating, on-the-down-low, crackhead Communist, is an attack on America, Mom, and apple pie. I swear these military people are worse than useless. Just look around at the condition of the country and tell me if they have fulfilled their oaths to protect the nation from all enemies foreign and domestic. Prove it.
"we ought to lay off the criticism" -- Pinguinite, circa 2010-05-26 22:17:22 ET
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You work for them, enjoy!
WWGPD? - (What Would General Pinochet Do?)
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I am happy you have a laff a minute. Now, isn't a bit late for you to be up at this hour? Scurry along and have a nice hot cup of cocoa before beddy-bye. Sweet-dreams.
"we ought to lay off the criticism" -- Pinguinite, circa 2010-05-26 22:17:22 ET
From 9/11 coincidences and oddities page! "Matt Rosenberg was down on Corridor 8, a medic at the health clinic in the massive military headquarters, grateful for an uninterrupted hour in which he could study a new medical emergency disaster plan based on the unlikely scenario of an airplane crashing into the place." - Washington Post (09/16/01) "Matt Rosenberg was down on Corridor 8, a medic at the health clinic in the massive military headquarters, grateful for an uninterrupted hour in which he could study a new medical emergency disaster plan based on the unlikely scenario of an airplane crashing into the place. Medic Describes 9/11 Response Excerpts from an interview with Sergeant Matthew Rosenberg, a medic at the DiLorenzo TRICARE Health Clinic. (See also: September 10, 2001 - Pentagon medic Matt Rosenberg is on the phone with the FBI talking about who has command of the MASCAL plane crash plan if a plane hits the Pentagon; 9/11 - Emergency equipment for the MASCAL plane crash plan was already out of their storage areas for an inventory check before the Pentagon was hit) Excerpts from an interview with Major Lorie A. Brown, who was Chief Nurse of DiLorenzo TRICARE Health Clinic. (See also: 9/11 - Pentagon medic Matt Rosenberg was studying the MASCAL plane crash plan right before the Pentagon was hit; 9/11 - A Pentagon rescuer mentions how "eerie" it was that the MASCAL plane crash plan that he had twice trained for was "very similar to what actually happened") • 9/11 - A "garrison control exercise" was being conducted at Fort Belvoir, less than 20 miles from the Pentagon, to "test the security at the base in case of a terrorist attack" and a team there was conducting classes about rescue techniques and then were one of the first responders to the Pentagon. An Engineer's Expertise Joins a Firefighter's Nightmare "Two groups rushing to the Pentagon that fateful morning were the firefighters from the Fort Belvoir Fire Department and a contingent of engineers from Headquarters Battalion, USAG Fort Belvoir, Military District of Washington. AS FATE WOULD have it, that is exactly were the office of Fort Belvoir's new commanding officer, Col. Thomas Williams, who took command on July 11, 2002, had been just moments before. Col. Williams was not in the area of his office at the moment of impact. But two who were paid the ultimate price, and another suffered severe burns, from which he is still recovering. Lt. Col. Mark R. Lindon, Commander, Headquarters Battalion at Belvoir, was conducting a garrison control exercise. The object was to test the security at the base in case of a terrorist attack. That training exercise went operational that morning. - Ft Belvoir to the Pentagon = approx 18 miles - Yahoo Maps (See also: June 29, 2001 - MASCAL exercise about a terrorist incident involving an explosion is conducted at Fort Belvoir to test first team's "external response") Belvoir firefighter among first responders at Pentagon "A training exercise in airport emergency operations at Fort Myer brought an assistant fire chief from Fort Belvoir to the Pentagon shortly after an aircraft crashed into its west wall. As training officer for the Fort Belvoir Fire Department, Dodge has acquired an expertise on airport emergency operations because of the Belvoir department's responsibilities at Davison Army Airfield. The morning of Sept. 11 the 28-year veteran was conducting training for the Fort Myer crew on precisely that topic. He and the class participants had heard during the first break in the training schedule about the first plane crash into one of the towers at the World Trade Center. Dodge said at that point everyone in the class just got up and left to get on the fire trucks. He jumped into a vehicle with Fort Myer's acting battalion commander, Dennis Gilroy. "The word was that the unit on the ground [the helipad firefighters who are part of the Fort Myer Fire Department] were involved," Dodge said. "That didn't sound too good. When they say involved, it meant they were a part of the crash. "We were one of the very first ones there," Dodge said, "aside from the crew that was already positioned at the Pentagon. He said at that point, something caught his attention. Local heroes: FMMC fire department reflects on attacks "The Fort Myer Military Community Fire Department had three men on the scene at the Pentagon when the attack occurred. In a matter of minutes, the rest of the team from Fort Myer joined the three men. The FMMC fire department is responsible for the landings and take-offs at the Pentagon heliport. The department sends three men to the Pentagon each day to cover the flights, according to FMMC Fire Chief Charles Campbell. While the three men were at the Pentagon, the majority of the men from the department were in an airport rescue firefighters class in the Education Center at Fort Myer. Immediately, the firemen got their equipment and went to the Pentagon to aid the victims. The ride to the Pentagon took about four minutes, William Harris, a Fort Myer fire department sergeant, said. Harris was the driver of Engine 161." - DC Military (11/02/01) FMMC firefighters respond to terrorist action at Pentagon "Fort Myer, located approximately a mile from the Pentagon..." - DC Military (09/14/01) (See also: April 23, 2001 - Fort Myer conducts a "Force Protection Exercise"; September 5, 2001 - Fort Myer and McNair implement "full access control") Posted the links already. Prove that the imposters were really him.
Can you counter the perspective with FACTS as opposed to emotional trauma and silly accusations pointed at me?
"we ought to lay off the criticism" -- Pinguinite, circa 2010-05-26 22:17:22 ET
Bullshit. Each of the four announcements from him after the 9/11 attacks, up till the end of 2001, denounced the attacks and he stressed that he did not have anything to do with them.
Sure, I had a LAUGH (not a "laff"). That, along with some of your other utterances about how the government wouldn't murder innocent people, is some of the dumbest stuff I have ever seen posted. Comical but for the fact that people actually have been murdered by the government you seem to believe is incapable of such.
Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end. He (Gordon Duff) also implies that forcibly removing Obama, a Constitution-hating, on-the-down-low, crackhead Communist, is an attack on America, Mom, and apple pie. I swear these military people are worse than useless. Just look around at the condition of the country and tell me if they have fulfilled their oaths to protect the nation from all enemies foreign and domestic. it was for the members of the liar movement that packages of tooth picks have instructions printed on them.
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Top • Page Up • Full Thread • Page Down • Bottom/Latestthe hijackers had 60 minutes and not 20 to complete their tasks
“It has been said, 'time heals all wounds.' I do not agree. The wounds remain. In time, the mind, protecting its sanity, covers them with scar tissue and the pain lessens, but it is never gone.” ~ Rose F. Kennedy
#392. To: wudidiz (#391)
#393. To: Eric Stratton (#392)
“It has been said, 'time heals all wounds.' I do not agree. The wounds remain. In time, the mind, protecting its sanity, covers them with scar tissue and the pain lessens, but it is never gone.” ~ Rose F. Kennedy
#394. To: wudidiz (#393)
#395. To: FormerLurker (#383)
So if I'm a little faggot, what's that make you?
#396. To: wudidiz (#391)
If the hijackers had 60, the Airforce had 60.
In the decade before 9/11, NORAD intercepted only one civilian plane over North America: golfer Payne Stewart's Learjet, in October 1999.
#397. To: AGAviator (#395)
Someone who's given you sufficient amounts of information you can't rebut to start on your tactics in the first place.
"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
#398. To: FormerLurker, turtle, buckeroo, critter (#397)
#399. To: Eric Stratton, AGAviator (#384)
Otherwise, fine, have it your way, there was no coverup, no hurry to dispense with evidence, all of the firefighters and police on video were obviously delusional all day long, and our Government can be fully trusted.
#400. To: Original_Intent, *9-11* (#399)
“It has been said, 'time heals all wounds.' I do not agree. The wounds remain. In time, the mind, protecting its sanity, covers them with scar tissue and the pain lessens, but it is never gone.” ~ Rose F. Kennedy
#401. To: buckeroo, Eric Stratton (#399)
As opposed to chiming in with sarcasm on occasion, why not add some facts.....
“It has been said, 'time heals all wounds.' I do not agree. The wounds remain. In time, the mind, protecting its sanity, covers them with scar tissue and the pain lessens, but it is never gone.” ~ Rose F. Kennedy
#402. To: AGAviator (#385)
So the USAF had 20-60 minutes to figure out a hijacking took place, figure out it was dangerous new type of suicide mission, clear thousands of regular craft from the sky, scramble jets, get vectors on hijacked planes flying with transponders off, guess destinations, and intercept the hijacked aircraft. All had to have taken place within 20-40 minutes for "first time" occurrences.
"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
#403. To: buckeroo (#399)
As opposed to chiming in with sarcasm on occasion, why not add some facts to support your doubts and suspicions?
#404. To: wudidiz (#401)
Lord Acton
OsamaBinGoldstein posted on 2010-05-25 9:39:59 ET (2 images) Reply Trace
#405. To: AGAviator (#385)
The existing hijacking scenarios presumed hijacked planes would land somewhere, not be turned into suicide bombs traveling at 450- 500 knots to crash into targets, and
"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
#406. To: AGAviator (#385)
OBL himself says in his October 2004 interview
"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
#407. To: FormerLurker (#402)
If they had flown straight to DC at top speed, they could have been there before it was too late
#408. To: buckeroo, All (#399)
#409. To: wudidiz (#401)
#410. To: wudidiz (#401)
#411. To: Eric Stratton (#408)
#412. To: FormerLurker (#402)
#413. To: FormerLurker (#406)
Osama bin Laden himself was DEAD in DEC. 2001.
#414. To: Eric Stratton (#356)
computer counted ballots are ballots that have been counted in secret, and with all probability not the way one voted.
#415. To: Eric Stratton (#412)
This charade is just more mental masturbation bullshit for the weakminded blue pillers.
#416. To: AGAviator (#403)
They actually need an "eebil gubmint" to premise all their arguments on.
#417. To: buckeroo (#411)
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Lord Acton
OsamaBinGoldstein posted on 2010-05-25 9:39:59 ET (2 images) Reply Trace
#418. To: AGAviator (#413)
Osama bin Laden himself was DEAD in DEC. 2001.
#419. To: buckeroo (#411)
#420. To: IRTorqued (#414)
#421. To: AGAviator (#403)
"eebil gubmint"
#422. To: AGAviator (#415)
#423. To: James Deffenbach (#417)
#424. To: AGAviator (#385)
(4) The existing hijacking scenarios presumed hijacked planes would land somewhere, not be turned into suicide bombs traveling at 450- 500 knots to crash into targets, and
• 9/11 - Before the Pentagon was hit, Pentagon medic Matt Rosenberg was studying a new MASCAL emergency disaster plan which is based on the unlikely scenario of an airplane crashing into the Pentagon.
Into the Pentagon's health clinic rushed a man screaming, "Evacuate now! Evacuate now!" This was not part of the disaster drill Matt Rosenberg had studied earlier that morning. He stopped a procedure on a patient in Minor Surgery Treatment Room 2 and started evacuating patients.
A naval officer rushed in and said a patient was in the courtyard where some people, confused and scared, had rushed to escape the collapsing inferno inside Corridor 5. Rosenberg, 26, dashed down a hallway, pushing through hundreds of people escaping the opposite direction, until he reached the courtyard, where he saw smoke billowing and people staggering out from the area that had been hit. He grabbed his radio and called back to the clinic. "You need to initiate MASCAL [the disaster plan] right now! We have mass casualties! I need medical assets to the courtyard!" - Star Tribune/Washington Post (09/21/01) [Printer version]
"Excerpts from an interview with Sgt. Matthew Rosenberg regarding Sept. 11, 2001. Sgt. Rosenberg is an Army medic assigned to the DiLorenzo TRICARE Health Clinic, the Pentagon. He also serves as the noncommissioned officer in charge of mass casualty events. He was awarded the Soldiers Medal for his actions on Sept. 11.
The day started out pretty much like any other day. We were doing … minor procedures that day, when we found out that the World Trade Center had been hit. … Somebody came in and said, "The World Trade Center got hit," and we're like, "Yeah, we know. It's horrible." They're like, "No, it got hit again." And that's when we realized it was a terrorist thing.
I got about 20 feet into the center courtyard, and that's when I saw the smoke rising out of the side of the building. Then I started seeing patients coming out, and I picked up my radio: "This is Sergeant Rosenberg. You need to initiate the MASCAL [mass casualty] plan now. We have multiple patients in the center courtyard, and I need medical assets in the center courtyard immediately." - Office of Medical History, OTSG (09/06/02)
"We had virtually completed our MASCAL plan. I was setting up training for medics, I was in the process of ordering new supplies, and trying to reinvent what we would do, how we would go about it. We still had the old MASCAL kits in place, and everything under the old guidance, and we were trying to take that a step beyond. Believe it or not, the day prior to the incident, I was just on the phone with the FBI, and we were talking ‘so who has command should this happen, who has the medical jurisdiction, who does this, who does that,’ and we talked about it and talked about it, and he helped me out a lot. And then the next day, during the incident, I actually found him. He was out there on the incident that day, and I made the joke, “You know, I used to have questions about all this, about who would have the command.” He would say, “You got any more questions?” I went, “Nope, not anymore.”
When I started seeing patients coming out of the building, I picked up my radio, and I called in, “This is Sergeant Rosenberg. You need to initiate the MASCAL plan now. We have multiple patients in the center courtyard, and I need medical assets in the courtyard immediately.”
"Because the crash site was on the west side of the building the clinic was almost directly opposite, our corridor was a clear avenue for people to escape. As soon as I saw that, we initiated the MASCAL, [mass casualty plan] started galvanizing all of our assets and put our plan in action.
We actually had our MASCAL equipment out of the storage areas because we were doing an inventory. So there were many pieces that just fell into place and worked so well on that day. It was just fortuitous. It was just amazing that way that things kind of happened the way they did. But like I said our planning truly made such a huge difference on that day. Our Commander had the foresight to focus on MASCAL prep and gave us the time and budget to really revamp our old MASCAL plan. I can’t say enough about how critical this was to our success."
"Ironically, we were conducting classes about rescue techniques when we were told of the planes hitting the World Trade Center," said Staff Sgt. Mark Williams. "My team was one of the initial response groups and one of the first to enter the building upon our arrival at the site.
"I was out checking on the exercise and heard about the World Trade Center on my car radio. As soon as it was established that this was no accident, we went to a complete security mode. Some people waited up to three hours to get on base that day," Lindon recalled.
"Throughout the next 10 days, I was operating security either here or at the Pentagon." - Connection Newspapers (09/05/02)
"We didn't have access to a TV or anything," he said. "So we just kept on going with the training program. All of a sudden we heard this BOOM! And we felt the building shake. Everyone just looked at each other like, 'what was that?' Then one of the fire units from Arlington came over the radio and said they saw an aircraft go down in the vicinity of the Pentagon."
Once inside the truck, the fire teams received the news an aircraft had crashed into the Pentagon.
"I saw one the guys from Fort Myer was trying to get as much equipment as possible off the crash truck parked at the helipad area," said Dodge, whose father retired from the Air Force following his last assignment at the Pentagon.
"The crash truck [stationed at the Pentagon] was engulfed in flames, and they were trying to save what they could." - MDW (10/04/01)
"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
#425. To: buckeroo (#418)
Prove it.
"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
#426. To: Eric Stratton (#419)
You're a fool if you believe that, an honest to goodness fucking rube!
#427. To: AGAviator (#413)
The October 2004 message is entirely consistent with Bin Laden interviews and fatwahs given throughout the 1990's, including statements he made after the twin bombings of US Embassies in Africa, and an attack on a US base in Saudi Arabia.
"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
#428. To: buckeroo (#423)
I am happy you have a laff a minute. Now, isn't a bit late for you to be up at this hour? Scurry along and have a nice hot cup of cocoa before beddy-bye. Sweet-dreams.
Lord Acton
OsamaBinGoldstein posted on 2010-05-25 9:39:59 ET (2 images) Reply Trace
#429. To: Eric Stratton (#390)
computer counted ballots are ballots that have been counted in secret, and with all probability not the way one voted.
#430. To: buckeroo (#426)
#431. To: IRTorqued (#429)
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