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Title: Why I Don't Have Any Use for Truthers
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Published: Jul 9, 2010
Author: Turtle
Post Date: 2010-07-09 11:35:19 by Turtle
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Poster Comment: This woman had sulfuric acid thrown in her face by guess who? Someone engaging in Typical Negro Behavior. They do this out of envy. "I can't get this woman, so nobody can have her." He got life in prison. These are the real problems, not hallucinations abour remote-controlled airplanes and bombs in towers.
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#709. To: FormerLurker, buckeroo, turtle, X-15, critter (#698)
That's calling Ted Olson a liar, when it's clear that theologian-masquerading- as-a-scientist David Ray Griffin who consistently uses half-truths buttressed by out of context quotes is the biggest liar around. First of all the cell phones did work in 2001 although their coverage and call duration were spotty. They worked better above country sites than over cities. Also some passengers used seat phones installed on the aircraft which people generally lump into "mobile" or "cell" phones when classifying the type of calls they get. According to the 9/11 Commission Report, 13 passengers from Flight 93 made a total of over 30 calls to both family and emergency personnel (twenty-two confirmed air phone calls, two confirmed cell phone and eight not specified in the report). According to Debunk911myths.org, all but two calls from Flight 93 were made on air phones, not cell phones, and both calls lasted about a minute before being dropped.[119] Brenda Raney, Verizon Wireless spokesperson, said that Flight 93 was supported by several cell sites.[117] There were reportedly three phone calls from Flight 11, five from Flight 175, and three calls from Flight 77. Two calls from these flights were recorded, placed by flight attendants Madeleine Sweeney and Betty Ong on Flight 11. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Ok, they didn't say they saw a plane pass over the Pentagon, I may have gotten that part confused with some other report. They DID however say that the plane they both saw did NOT fly from the same direction as told by the "official story", which they were not even aware of.
More important than hitting Rumsfeld's office? Could they at least have cleared the construction material - that was hit, care to explain how it was damaged and knocked sideways if no wing clipped it - directly in front of the entry hole? And had their thingmabob hit the wall at 90 degrees straight on instead of an oblique 60-something degrees angle? Would have made a better collision. Was the oblique entry hole angle part of the preprogrammed attack too? And who scattered the aircraft parts both inside the building where they got scorched, and across the lawn? And the DNA evidence, which identified everybody listed who died except a baby, that's all faked and none of the relatives has ever found out? Beyond pathetic.
---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Seems like your friend Marvin Sirbu, has a few problems in the way of ethics... So how come those "hijackers" are still alive? Did they have super duper space suits on and ejected themselves up to a super secret AL-CIADA space ship waiting for them in orbit?
They both draw a flight path showing the plane taking the same path as depicted in the above videos I posted, hitting at an oblique angle. Do they say it was a cruise missile? That's all the CT's have? Where's the beef?
---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- As far as the odd coincidence that the plane just happened to hit a recently REINFORCED section of the Pentagon, I guess that just passes right through the air in your head, doesn't it...
Was the oblique entry hole angle part of the preprogrammed attack too? If it were 90 degrees straight on, it might have raised even further questions as to how an inept pilot could pull that off. It's pretty much impossible for an inept pilot to have done what occured that day as it is, but many people are too stupid to understand that.
19 out of 19 hijackers are dead, with Saudi acknowledging 15 of them and telling their families. Depends on who you say were the hijackers. False documents, common names with other people, different phonetic spellings, stolen ID's, etc. can explain any other discrepancies that aren't products of cut and picking half truths out of a complete body of evidence.
---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- WRONG! YOU and the government CT followers claim the aircraft approached from south of the Citgo station, whereas the two officers drew a line showing a flight path NORTH of the Citgo station. Lightpoles which you and your pals claim were knocked down, were NOT knocked down when the two officers investigated. The blue line in the image below depicts the two officer's testimony, the red line is the path YOU and your pals claim the plane took. I guess the fact that they're alive and well, going on TV, and explaining that they had nothing to do with 9/11, doesn't change your view on that, eh? Do you believe in the tooth faery too?
In the post above, you say "recently REINFORCED section" Now you're saying how "they" also didn't want to make too obvious of a straight on hole so their cover story could be more credible. So now your story is "they" sent a missile directly into a stronger than normal section, at a less than normal collision direction, making two factors reduce the impact force of "their" attack of whatever "they" wanted to hit. Do you understand how stupid this sounds, to work with your right hand against your left, so to speak? I'm starting to feel sorry for you needing to make all this stuff up to des·per·ate·ly make your CT hold up. I'm gonna not post for the rest of the day.
---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- BTW AGAv, where are all those video tapes showing the aircraft approach and impact? Oh that's right, the FBI confiscated them and never released them, except for one from inside the Citgo station that doesn't show anything.
So now your story is "they" sent a missile directly into a stronger than normal section, at a less than normal collision direction, making two factors reduce the impact force of "their" attack of whatever "they" wanted to hit. Do you understand how stupid this sounds, to work with your right hand against your left, so to speak? Let me explain it to you in simple terms, since you appear to have some serious issues with comprehension. Those behind the attacks didn't want to destroy the Pentagon, they wanted to do something spectacular for the TV cameras. By hitting the strongest section, they caused minimal damage yet had some spectacular footage. THAT and they ALSO eliminated any pesky evidence on those computers that were destroyed in that section of the building.
BTW, where is the tail section of the aircraft? Where are the wings?
Just as luck would have it, the impact was centered amongst the bean counters who, as luck would have it, lost all the data that could determine where that $2.3 trillion missing per news accounts on 9-10 went. But, it's all just coincidence. I bet those hijackers had a fatwa out on the heads of bean counters in the Pentegaon.
"The conscious and intelligent manipulation of the organized habits and opinions of the masses is an important element in democratic society. Those who manipulate this unseen mechanism of society constitute an invisible government which is the true ruling power of our country. ... We are governed, our minds are molded, our tastes formed, our ideas suggested, largely by men we have never heard of." Edward Bernays, Father of Public Relations
Where's all the "wreakage"? Yeah, bin Laden felt bad for Rumsfeld, so he thought he'd help him out a bit...
The tail section is hiding, along with the indestructible black boxes from all air craft involved in 911 events. The evil doers are very good at hiding little things like tail sections and black boxes. Yet, indestructible passports belonging to the hijackers could easily slip from the jet fuel explosion and land on the sidewalk for easy finding.
"The conscious and intelligent manipulation of the organized habits and opinions of the masses is an important element in democratic society. Those who manipulate this unseen mechanism of society constitute an invisible government which is the true ruling power of our country. ... We are governed, our minds are molded, our tastes formed, our ideas suggested, largely by men we have never heard of." Edward Bernays, Father of Public Relations
Of course to sell the suckers Osama, Tim Osman/Emmanuel Goldstein/Farmer Jones, Bin Laden
Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end. He (Gordon Duff) also implies that forcibly removing Obama, a Constitution-hating, on-the-down-low, crackhead Communist, is an attack on America, Mom, and apple pie. I swear these military people are worse than useless. Just look around at the condition of the country and tell me if they have fulfilled their oaths to protect the nation from all enemies foreign and domestic. The fact is, there were apparently TWO aircraft, one seen by some coming from south of the Citgo station, and one coming from north of the Citgo station. One would have had to pull up and fly away, with the smoke caused by the other aircraft impacting the building obscuring the 1st plane's departure. One was possibly the real Flight 93, the other was something else. The timing was impeccible if that is actually what happened.
I had nothing to do with the scum bags that messed up some innocent girl's face. If I had witness it, they'd be dead. You useful idiots have everything to do with thousands of blown up kids. Go fuck yourself. I have no use for you or your kind. that
If a woman says no to me, from now on I'm going to look down and say, "My pecker is sad." Usually if they laugh they change their minds!
St. Ausgustine on the State: "It was a criminal band that achieved legitimacy not by renouncing aggression, but rather by attaining impunity."
Maybe turdle listens to michael reagan ??? Reagan simply called for and wants '911 truthers' to be murdered. Is reagan still on the airwaves ? Anyone covering for the 911 official false flag (and thereby the subsequent rapidly advancing new world we live in) imo should not be taken as a prisoner when escalation truly DOES begin inside Occupied America / ameriKa...
Without even a scratch or singed page.
You strike me as the repubican type...but you probably like REALLY young boys, yeah ?
I guess you're in trouble with your bosses, eh?
AGitprop
Seems like your friend Marvin Sirbu, has a few problems in the way of ethics... Marvin Sirbu's Moral Mazes As I suggested earlier, but didn't follow up the "worthy" Professor is a "Rent-a-Prof" looking for more of dems nice gubbermint grants n shit. The Professors statements are impeached.
"One of the least understood strategies of the world revolution now moving rapidly toward its goal is the use of mind control as a major means of obtaining the consent of the people who will be subjects of the New World Order." K.M. Heaton, The National Educator
shhhhh...you don't want Farmer Jones to come back, do you?
Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end. He (Gordon Duff) also implies that forcibly removing Obama, a Constitution-hating, on-the-down-low, crackhead Communist, is an attack on America, Mom, and apple pie. I swear these military people are worse than useless. Just look around at the condition of the country and tell me if they have fulfilled their oaths to protect the nation from all enemies foreign and domestic. But Look at that Pentalawn 2000! It took an impact from a screaming 757 and is still intact. That's some tough grass.
"One of the least understood strategies of the world revolution now moving rapidly toward its goal is the use of mind control as a major means of obtaining the consent of the people who will be subjects of the New World Order." K.M. Heaton, The National Educator
That's almost ALWAYS the case with these "experts" who back the government story.
The need for prescise timing may be why the one jet had to pull off that tight spiral in a turn that was at, or possibly just beyond, the theoretical limits of the airframe to withstand the G forces involved in the spiral descent. Certainly that was not a maneuver pulled off by an incompetent pilot who had never flown anything larger than a single engine propeller driven Cessna 172 (with a top speed of 220 knots in a dive).
"One of the least understood strategies of the world revolution now moving rapidly toward its goal is the use of mind control as a major means of obtaining the consent of the people who will be subjects of the New World Order." K.M. Heaton, The National Educator
One was possibly the real Flight 93, the other was something else. The timing was impeccible if that is actually what happened. Are there witnesses who saw both? My reason for posting the two pictures in post 728 is that the second picture seems to show that the missile or whatever it was traveled along the blue line in the first picture.
That and every little piece of the plane just vaporized, except for a tiny clean yet twisted piece of scrap that the government CT'ers hold up as "proof" that Flight 77 impacted the Pentagon. Strange how that piece of scrap isn't there in the original images though... Oh yeah, there's some aircraft parts in pictures from inside the buiding, but where is the tail, and where are the wings? With an angled impact such as the trajectory of the aircraft, a least the left wing should have torn off and slid across the front of the building. AND, the tail section should have broken off upon entry to the building.
Especially not one who couldn't center a Cessna onto a runway in order to land it.
Who are we gonna argue with then? Buck and Turtle?
Snopes=full of $#it.
Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end. He (Gordon Duff) also implies that forcibly removing Obama, a Constitution-hating, on-the-down-low, crackhead Communist, is an attack on America, Mom, and apple pie. I swear these military people are worse than useless. Just look around at the condition of the country and tell me if they have fulfilled their oaths to protect the nation from all enemies foreign and domestic. I don't know of any who saw both, but from the witness reports, there were two different flight paths.
That's almost ALWAYS the case with these "experts" who back the government story. There does seem to be a pattern. And reputable Professors who know their stuff and disagree with the "Official Conspiracy Theory™" are bought off, as the Professor at U. of NM who looked at the film early on and said it was clearly a controlled demolition, but then he went to D.C. the next week, got a big fat grant, and changed his tune. Those who maintain their integrity are attacked such as Professor Jones of BYU (who I think, financially, had the last laugh as they had to give him a golden handshake when BYU forced him out to protect all that good gubbermint grant money they get). Thomas, living on government grants, Eggar of M.I.T. (the father of the laughable sagging truss theory that has been so thoroughly discredited) will no longer even talk to reporters or independent investigators. He's holed up in his office and playing clam. Not a normal behavior for an attention seeking professor who wants to maintain his "reputation". I am rather fond of Professor Jones because despite the attempts to shut him up he's still standing, and none of the attempts to discredit him or his work have stuck because he is very careful with the facts and they are all on his side.
"One of the least understood strategies of the world revolution now moving rapidly toward its goal is the use of mind control as a major means of obtaining the consent of the people who will be subjects of the New World Order." K.M. Heaton, The National Educator
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Phone calls After 9/11, cellular experts said that calls were able to be placed from the hijacked planes, and that they were surprised that they lasted as long as they did. They said that the only reason that the calls went through in the first place is that the aircraft were flying so close to the ground.[116] Alexa Graf, an AT&T spokesperson said it was almost a fluke that the calls reached their destinations.[117] Other industry experts said that it is possible to use cell phones with varying degrees of success during the ascent and descent of commercial airline flights.[118] Marvin Sirbu, professor of engineering and public policy at Carnegie Mellon University said on September 14, 2001, that "The fact of the matter is that cell phones can work in almost all phases of a commercial flight."[118]
One of the major consequences of the 9/11 movement has been to draw enormous amounts of energy and effort away from activism directed to real and ongoing crimes of state, and their institutional background, crimes that are far more serious than blowing up the WTC would be, if there were any credibility to that thesis. That is, I suspect, why the 9/11 movement is treated far more tolerantly by centers of power than is the norm for serious critical and activist work....Noam Chomsky
#710. To: AGAviator (#701)
I find it likely that the police officers, if they made this statement at all, are being quoted out of context in typical CT fashion.
"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
#711. To: FormerLurker, buckeroo, turtle, X-15, critteer (#707)
Odd that the accounting office was hit, since just the day before Rumsfeld announced the Pentagon couldn't account for 2.3 TRILLION dollars.
One of the major consequences of the 9/11 movement has been to draw enormous amounts of energy and effort away from activism directed to real and ongoing crimes of state, and their institutional background, crimes that are far more serious than blowing up the WTC would be, if there were any credibility to that thesis. That is, I suspect, why the 9/11 movement is treated far more tolerantly by centers of power than is the norm for serious critical and activist work....Noam Chomsky
#712. To: AGAviator (#709)
Marvin Sirbu, professor of engineering and public policy at Carnegie Mellon University said on September 14, 2001, that "The fact of the matter is that cell phones can work in almost all phases of a commercial flight."[118]
"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
#713. To: AGAviator (#711)
And the DNA evidence, which identified everybody listed who died except a baby, that's all faked and none of the relatives has ever found out?
"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
#714. To: FormerLurker (#710)
They DID however say that the plane they both saw did NOT fly from the same direction
One of the major consequences of the 9/11 movement has been to draw enormous amounts of energy and effort away from activism directed to real and ongoing crimes of state, and their institutional background, crimes that are far more serious than blowing up the WTC would be, if there were any credibility to that thesis. That is, I suspect, why the 9/11 movement is treated far more tolerantly by centers of power than is the norm for serious critical and activist work....Noam Chomsky
#715. To: AGAviator (#711)
"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
#716. To: AGAviator (#711)
And had their thingmabob hit the wall at 90 degrees straight on instead of an oblique 60-something degrees angle? Would have made a better collision.
"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
#717. To: FormerLurker (#713)
So how come those "hijackers" are still alive?
One of the major consequences of the 9/11 movement has been to draw enormous amounts of energy and effort away from activism directed to real and ongoing crimes of state, and their institutional background, crimes that are far more serious than blowing up the WTC would be, if there were any credibility to that thesis. That is, I suspect, why the 9/11 movement is treated far more tolerantly by centers of power than is the norm for serious critical and activist work....Noam Chomsky
#718. To: AGAviator (#714)
They both draw a flight path showing the plane taking the same path as depicted in the above videos I posted, hitting at an oblique angle.
"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
#719. To: AGAviator (#717)
19 out of 19 hijackers are dead, with Saudi acknowledging 15 of them and telling their families.
"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
#720. To: FormerLurker, buckeroo, turtle, (#716)
(Edited)
If it were 90 degrees straight on, it might have raised even further questions as to how an inept pilot could pull that off
One of the major consequences of the 9/11 movement has been to draw enormous amounts of energy and effort away from activism directed to real and ongoing crimes of state, and their institutional background, crimes that are far more serious than blowing up the WTC would be, if there were any credibility to that thesis. That is, I suspect, why the 9/11 movement is treated far more tolerantly by centers of power than is the norm for serious critical and activist work....Noam Chomsky
#721. To: AGAviator (#717)
"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
#722. To: AGAviator (#720)
Now you're saying how "they" also didn't want to make too obvious of a straight on hole so their cover story could be more credible.
"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
#723. To: AGAviator (#720)
"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
#724. To: FormerLurker (#722)
Those behind the attacks didn't want to destroy the Pentagon, they wanted to do something spectacular for the TV cameras. By hitting the strongest section, they caused minimal damage yet had some spectacular footage.
#725. To: AGAviator (#711)
And who scattered the aircraft parts both inside the building where they got scorched, and across the lawn?
"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
#726. To: abraxas (#724)
I bet those hijackers had a fatwa out on the heads of bean counters in the Pentegaon.
"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
#727. To: FormerLurker (#723)
#728. To: FormerLurker, AGAviator, all (#718)
“It has been said, 'time heals all wounds.' I do not agree. The wounds remain. In time, the mind, protecting its sanity, covers them with scar tissue and the pain lessens, but it is never gone.” ~ Rose F. Kennedy
#729. To: Original_Intent (#656)
Of course to sell the suckers Osama, Tim Osman, Bin Laden has to be built up as this mythical figure on par with Sax Rohmer's "Villainous Dr. Fu Manchu".
Lord Acton
OsamaBinGoldstein posted on 2010-05-25 9:39:59 ET (2 images) Reply Trace
#730. To: wudidiz (#728)
"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
#731. To: Critter (#88)
Lies get kids blown up by the thousand. People who support lies are responsible for this shit. That means you.
"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams 
#732. To: HOUNDDAWG, farmfriend (#694)
that make their little peckers "sad".
#733. To: James Deffenbach, Original_Intent, wudidiz, All (#729)
"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams
#734. To: abraxas (#727)
The tail section is hiding, along with the indestructible black boxes from all air craft involved in 911 events. The evil doers are very good at hiding little things like tail sections and black boxes. Yet, indestructible passports belonging to the hijackers could easily slip from the jet fuel explosion and land on the sidewalk for easy finding.
"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
#735. To: Turtle (#732)
"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams
#736. To: AGAviator (#720)
I'm gonna not post for the rest of the day.
"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
#737. To: FormerLurker (#736)
"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams
#738. To: FormerLurker, AGAviator, all (#712)
Marvin Sirbu, professor of engineering and public policy at Carnegie Mellon University said on September 14, 2001, that "The fact of the matter is that cell phones can work in almost all phases of a commercial flight."[118]
#739. To: IRTorqued (#680)
the members of the liar movement will believe anything the government tells them and for a small fee shout those lies from the roof tops if they also supply the talking points.
Lord Acton
OsamaBinGoldstein posted on 2010-05-25 9:39:59 ET (2 images) Reply Trace
#740. To: FormerLurker, AGAviator, all (#725)
#741. To: Original_Intent (#738)
As I suggested earlier, but didn't follow up the "worthy" Professor is a "Rent-a-Prof" looking for more of dems nice gubbermint grants n shit.
"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
#742. To: FormerLurker (#730)
#743. To: FormerLurker (#730)
The fact is, there were apparently TWO aircraft, one seen by some coming from south of the Citgo station, and one coming from north of the Citgo station. One would have had to pull up and fly away, with the smoke caused by the other aircraft impacting the building obscuring the 1st plane's departure.
“It has been said, 'time heals all wounds.' I do not agree. The wounds remain. In time, the mind, protecting its sanity, covers them with scar tissue and the pain lessens, but it is never gone.” ~ Rose F. Kennedy
#744. To: Original_Intent (#740)
But Look at that Pentalawn 2000! It took an impact from a screaming 757 and is still intact. That's some tough grass.
"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
#745. To: Original_Intent (#742)
Certainly that was not a maneuver pulled off by an incompetent pilot who had never flown anything larger than a single engine propeller driven Cessna 172 (with a top speed of 220 knots in a dive).
"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
#746. To: FormerLurker, AGAviator, Original_Intent, James Deffenbach, abraxas, buckeroo, Turtle, all (#736)
I'm gonna not post for the rest of the day.
“It has been said, 'time heals all wounds.' I do not agree. The wounds remain. In time, the mind, protecting its sanity, covers them with scar tissue and the pain lessens, but it is never gone.” ~ Rose F. Kennedy
#747. To: HAPPY2BME-4UM (#696)
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Snopes says eyewitnesses describe and photos demonstrate that the 757 hit the ground first
Lord Acton
OsamaBinGoldstein posted on 2010-05-25 9:39:59 ET (2 images) Reply Trace
#748. To: wudidiz (#743)
Are there witnesses who saw both?
"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
#749. To: FormerLurker (#741)
As I suggested earlier, but didn't follow up the "worthy" Professor is a "Rent-a-Prof" looking for more of dems nice gubbermint grants n shit.
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