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Title: Why I Don't Have Any Use for Truthers
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Published: Jul 9, 2010
Author: Turtle
Post Date: 2010-07-09 11:35:19 by Turtle
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Poster Comment: This woman had sulfuric acid thrown in her face by guess who? Someone engaging in Typical Negro Behavior. They do this out of envy. "I can't get this woman, so nobody can have her." He got life in prison. These are the real problems, not hallucinations abour remote-controlled airplanes and bombs in towers.
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#58. To: farmfriend (#47)
Of course, on this very thread: Believe whatever seems prudent to you. Your ignorance is irremediable. Avoid the question, engage in ad hominem attacks. Pwned. Now Turdle is using the misspelled malapropism. I guess he wants to demonstrate he ain't ignern't. Whatever. "One of the least understood strategies of the world revolution now moving rapidly toward its goal is the use of mind control as a major means of obtaining the consent of the people who will be subjects of the New World Order." K.M. Heaton, The National Educator Original_Intent posted on 2010-07-09 15:24:17 ET O_I is a complete fuckup: ATTACKING ANYONE THAT DEFIES HIS OPIN.
"we ought to lay off the criticism" -- Pinguinite, circa 2010-05-26 22:17:22 ET
Got links other than Alex Jones?
"we ought to lay off the criticism" -- Pinguinite, circa 2010-05-26 22:17:22 ET
I wasn't there, I didn't see it with my own eyes, therefore I don't have an informed opinion, let alone conviction, as to what may or may not have caused the demise of WT7.
__________________________________________________________ I don't argue with the retarded guy on Main street who sells the local paper and mumbles to himself about invisible things. Does that mean he "pwns" me? Hardly. Same with you. You've decided that the bulk of the world's evils can be laid at the feet of 'dem ebil darkies, lawdy mercy'. That gets as tiresome as 'the evil Jews/Zionists/Build-a-Burgers are responsible for my life turning to shit' stuff. Your vacation threads are mildly amusing. The rest of you, sad to say, is just dumb.
Report: Bin Laden Already Dead [FOX News] Earth to bucktard! Bin Laden video fake: Here in an analysis of the BIN LADEN VIDEO by Mike Rivero at WhatReallyHappened (it just so happens that is how he makes his living i.e., doing video special effects so he is an expert and knows what he is looking at). "One of the least understood strategies of the world revolution now moving rapidly toward its goal is the use of mind control as a major means of obtaining the consent of the people who will be subjects of the New World Order." K.M. Heaton, The National Educator
Real problems also include the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan, the wide open southern border and lack of enforcement of immigration laws, corruption, and police state ideology. What are YOU doing to deal with those things? Blaming people who care more about it all than you ever will? This is why I can't stand morons who would rather accept lies and launch ridicule upon those who don't, than open their eyes and accept reality.
Thank you. Of course buckie is not really interested in anything resembling the truth, but he cannot say it is not out there.
"One of the least understood strategies of the world revolution now moving rapidly toward its goal is the use of mind control as a major means of obtaining the consent of the people who will be subjects of the New World Order." K.M. Heaton, The National Educator
When have you offered anything other than mind_speak or conspiracy theories to suggest "truth" based upon fact? I can't think of anytime.... perhaps, you can suggest a time and a place wherein your egocentric mirrored persona was out of the way?
"we ought to lay off the criticism" -- Pinguinite, circa 2010-05-26 22:17:22 ET
Prove that the conspiracy theory of 19 arabs hating us for our freedoms actually pulled off the 9/11 attacks. Where's the evidence?
Uh, buck if you didn't insist on coming a'gunnin' fore' me I wouldn't shoot back. I know you might find that difficult to compehend, but I don't go out of my way to start flame wars. Although, as you can see, I can singe pretty good when provoked. So, you mess weeth thee bool you get thee horns.
"One of the least understood strategies of the world revolution now moving rapidly toward its goal is the use of mind control as a major means of obtaining the consent of the people who will be subjects of the New World Order." K.M. Heaton, The National Educator
Don't bring darts to a gunfight, to use a popular colloquial, cliché.
"we ought to lay off the criticism" -- Pinguinite, circa 2010-05-26 22:17:22 ET
Whatever. ;-)
"One of the least understood strategies of the world revolution now moving rapidly toward its goal is the use of mind control as a major means of obtaining the consent of the people who will be subjects of the New World Order." K.M. Heaton, The National Educator
I can't. The way you phrased the question ensures there is no response from me. Still, I question why you would phrase a question like that. You are using popular colloquial expressions assuming I will pong your ping in a way that you can play. Have you lost your mind?
"we ought to lay off the criticism" -- Pinguinite, circa 2010-05-26 22:17:22 ET
Oh, I made a little grammer mistake, sorry I was in a rush. Here, can you answer this modified version? Prove that the conspiracy theory of 19 arabs who hated us for our freedoms actually pulled off the 9/11 attacks. Where's the evidence?
I pray you don't take issue with my posts such that you lose sight of my regard for you. I think you are an awesome poster; perhaps one of the best that I have met on any forum under the Sun; you are very persuasive and capable of intelligent, deliberate opinion. The difference between you and me is that you don't add any facts to support or otherwise substantiate your posts; you add hearsay and innuendo to support your perspective. And that same issue is your very own Achilles tendon.
"we ought to lay off the criticism" -- Pinguinite, circa 2010-05-26 22:17:22 ET
Thank you for the kind words. And point granted on not documenting. In part it is because I read so much, and am blessed with a good memory, that often I write on the fly without stopping to nail down references which I'll admit is a bad habit, and as well when I was posting on El Pee I learned that a lot of the people who attacked me were simply attacking and could care less about documentation which they would not read even when I did post it. As well, all modesty aside, a lot of times when I post an analysis it was one I did myself and so the reference IS me. Not to give myself airs but I have a large vocabulary thanks to having a sesquipedalian mother with a love of word play and people sometimes mistake my polysyllabic preferences for snobbery when it's just the way I talk and write all the time. They gave me hell in the service over it.
"One of the least understood strategies of the world revolution now moving rapidly toward its goal is the use of mind control as a major means of obtaining the consent of the people who will be subjects of the New World Order." K.M. Heaton, The National Educator
Osama bin Laden did HATE US foreign intervention policy. He initiated al-Qaida after the Taliban in Afghanistan. Why? US foreign intervention policy during the 80's with the esteemed Ronny Reagan calling the Afghani's 'freedom fighters' against USSR intrusion. And afterward, that is, after the WIN, the US stopped support. America does not have a coherent international set of policies and procedures concerning methods of ANYTHING. An empire can not be made based on democracy; it is a total lie and fabrication from little purple faeries whispering in one your ears that understand America is as GREAT as it once was. America is all about political knee-jerk reactions anymore; meanwhile the rest of the world is winning a better life style while we are stuck with enormous debt and a failing economy.
"we ought to lay off the criticism" -- Pinguinite, circa 2010-05-26 22:17:22 ET
A LOT of people hate US foreign policy. Thing is, none of them had anything to do with the 9/11 attacks. Bin Laden denounced those attacks, and did NOT accept responsibilty for them, except in videos created AFTER the time he is said to have passed away. It's pretty obvious those later videos utilized imposters.
Got link? Please no Alex Jones and conspiracy web sites.
"we ought to lay off the criticism" -- Pinguinite, circa 2010-05-26 22:17:22 ET
Just a few of the twit's posts directing some harangue towards and about me. Hmmm, you think I just made this crap up? Mind you I think all are guilty. Even me on occasion.
"With respect to the words general welfare, I have always regarded them as qualified by the detail of powers connected with them. To take them in a literal and unlimited sense would be a metamorphosis of the Constitution into a character which there is a host of proofs was not contemplated by its creators." sounds good to me.
"With respect to the words general welfare, I have always regarded them as qualified by the detail of powers connected with them. To take them in a literal and unlimited sense would be a metamorphosis of the Constitution into a character which there is a host of proofs was not contemplated by its creators." Pot meet kettle.
"With respect to the words general welfare, I have always regarded them as qualified by the detail of powers connected with them. To take them in a literal and unlimited sense would be a metamorphosis of the Constitution into a character which there is a host of proofs was not contemplated by its creators." You are never guilty. You are too factually based to be part of some GRAND conspiracy theory.
"we ought to lay off the criticism" -- Pinguinite, circa 2010-05-26 22:17:22 ET
I agree - these are two different people.
"Satan / Cheney in "08" LOL love your sarcasm.
Name calling is juvenile.
Already posted in post 62.
Including a lot of Americans. Our government's foreign policy is foreign to the best interests of the United States. They would have done well to heed the words of wisdom of the founders about entangling alliances. "It is our true policy to steer clear of permanent alliance with any portion of the foreign world": it was George Washington's Farewell Address to us. The inaugural pledge of Thomas Jefferson was no less clear: "Peace, commerce, and honest friendship with all nations-entangling alliances with none." How much clearer could they have made it?
Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end. He (Gordon Duff) also implies that forcibly removing Obama, a Constitution-hating, on-the-down-low, crackhead Communist, is an attack on America, Mom, and apple pie. I swear these military people are worse than useless. Just look around at the condition of the country and tell me if they have fulfilled their oaths to protect the nation from all enemies foreign and domestic. The attack on this woman is a terrible, sad tragedy. To associate this crime with people who care enough about their world that they will devote themselves to exposing a State crime (that is, 9/11) is just wrong and quite sad as well. Your self hatred for your inability to see the truth about 9/11 is quite sickening and obvious to most posters here.
You have no use for people into the truth for what reason? This is a dumb thread. You would make more sense saying you hate France because it is sort of shaped like a hexigon.
This is what lies yield: Lies get kids blown up by the thousand. People who support lies are responsible for this shit. That means you. I had nothing to do with the scum bags that messed up some innocent girl's face. If I had witness it, they'd be dead. You useful idiots have everything to do with thousands of blown up kids. Go fuck yourself. I have no use for you or your kind.
Of all those that call names on this forum, O_I is the least offensive.
#56. To: Samuel Gray, Turdle, Turtle (#54)
#59. To: Original_Intent (#55)
Which has been shown repeatedly to be a fraudulent tape of some actor, who does not even look like a close resemblance to the real Bin Laden, hired to make a bad PsyOps video to justify government actions in murdering millions of people.
#60. To: Eric Stratton (#30)
So you think that WT7 fell all by itself and that the "early" mention of it in the media prior to it actually falling was pure coincidence, eh?
Obama is the miscegenated bastard of a white communist whore. True story.
-Schweizerische Schuetzenzeitung (Swiss Shooting Federation) April, 1941
#61. To: Turtle (#54)
#62. To: buckeroo, Original_Intent (#59)
Got links other than Alex Jones?
"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
#63. To: buckeroo, Buckmonster Fullofit, abraxas, Samuel Gray, James Deffenbach, Turdle, FormerLurker, all (#59)
Earth to bucktard!
Do you read me bucktard?
There is such a thing as a SEARCH ENGINE if you were really interested in the truth or learning anything - which you are not. However, here is one link out of the 6,149,797 responses to my search terms. 47 unique top-ten pages selected from at least matching results
#64. To: Turtle (#0)
These are the real problems, not hallucinations abour remote-controlled airplanes and bombs in towers.
"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
#65. To: FormerLurker, buckeroo, all (#62)
#66. To: Original_Intent (#65)
#67. To: buckeroo (#66)
When have you offered anything other than mind_speak or conspiracy theories to suggest "truth" based upon fact?
"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
#68. To: buckeroo (#66)
#69. To: Original_Intent (#68)
Uh, buck if you didn't insist on coming a'gunnin' fore' me I wouldn't
shoot play darts, back.
#70. To: buckeroo (#69)
#71. To: FormerLurker (#67)
Prove that the conspiracy theory of 19 arabs hating us for our freedoms actually pulled off the 9/11 attacks. Where's the evidence?
#72. To: buckeroo (#71)
"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
#73. To: Original_Intent (#70)
#74. To: buckeroo (#73)
#75. To: FormerLurker (#72)
#76. To: buckeroo (#75)
Osama bin Laden did HATE US foreign intervention policy.
"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
#77. To: FormerLurker (#76)
#78. To: buckeroo (#52)
Have I ever called O_I other than his preferred Internet handle?
James Madison, Letter to James Robertson, April 20, 1831
#79. To: Original_Intent (#53)
but the kooks cannot allow their fantasies and myths to be questioned rationally without going into neurotic hyperventilation. And facts drive them even more berserk.
James Madison, Letter to James Robertson, April 20, 1831
#80. To: buckeroo (#58)
O_I is a complete fuckup: ATTACKING ANYONE THAT DEFIES HIS OPIN.
James Madison, Letter to James Robertson, April 20, 1831
#81. To: farmfriend (#78)
Hmmm ....
#82. To: Original_Intent (#14)
The other readily apparent difference is that the ears are not the same. Ears are a distinctive feature on a lot of people. Despite the damage to her face they should bear at least some resemblance, but the structure is not at all the same.
#83. To: buckeroo (#81)
You are too factually based to be part of some GRAND conspiracy theory.
#84. To: buckeroo (#77)
Got link? Please no Alex Jones and conspiracy web sites.
"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
#85. To: FormerLurker (#76)
A LOT of people hate US foreign policy.
Lord Acton
OsamaBinGoldstein posted on 2010-05-25 9:39:59 ET (2 images) Reply Trace
#86. To: Turtle, Original_Intent, christine, all (#0)
“It has been said, 'time heals all wounds.' I do not agree. The wounds remain. In time, the mind, protecting its sanity, covers them with scar tissue and the pain lessens, but it is never gone.” ~ Rose F. Kennedy
#87. To: Turtle (#0)
#88. To: Turtle (#0)
Waiting too late to oppose tyranny has always led to bloodshed.
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#89. To: X-15 (#60)
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The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one.
#90. To: FormerLurker (#84)
OK... how about a recent glimpse other than 9 year old data?
"we ought to lay off the criticism" -- Pinguinite, circa 2010-05-26 22:17:22 ET
#91. To: buckeroo (#90)
If he died 9 years ago, don't hold your breath for late breaking news on the matter. As far as the Daily Mail link which I posted, it delves into the analysis of various newer videos, and what various experts have suggested and/or concluded.
OK... how about a recent glimpse other than 9 year old data?
"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
#92. To: Original_Intent, buckeroo, turtle (#55)
Typical whack-job denial. The explicit messages on the tape are as follows Your mental miasma needs treatment. Get off the internet and clean out your garbage with some form of a mental laxative.
Which has been shown repeatedly to be a fraudulent tape of some actor, who does not even look like a close resemblance to the real Bin Laden, hired to make a bad PsyOps video to justify government actions in murdering millions of people.
(1) America was attacked for its support of Israel, not because of its freedoms, which is why America and not Sweden was attacked,
To allege that statements like this are a product of US government conspiracies, when the actually clearly describe the US government taking a path to its own destruction, shows a wilful denial of reality and lack of cognitive skills too inferior to even be described by words.
(2) America's military-industrial complex is not working in the best interests of the American people,
(3) The al Qaida plan is to bankrupt America through constant worldwide guerilla warfare, said in 2004 when it appeared the US was in a "no quagmire" and "world economic leader" mindset,
(4) By his eagerness to take the al Qaida bait anywhere on the planet, Obama and Bush are both working together for this same goal of US bankruptcy, albeit for different reasons,
(5) "All that we have to do is to send two Mujahideen to the furthest point East to raise a piece of cloth on which is written al-Qaida, in order to make the generals race there to cause America to suffer human, economic, and political losses without their achieving for it anything of note other than some benefits for their private companies,"
(6) "It never occurred to us that the commander-in-chief of the American armed forces would abandon 50 000 of his citizens in the twin towers to face those great horrors alone, the time when they most needed him. But because it seemed to him that occupying himself by talking to the little girl about the goat and its butting was more important than occupying himself with the planes and their butting of the skyscrapers. We were given three times the period required,"
(7) "Your security is not in the hands of Kerry, nor Bush, nor al-Qaida. No. Your security is in your own hands."
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One of the major consequences of the 9/11 movement has been to draw enormous amounts of energy and effort away from activism directed to real and ongoing crimes of state, and their institutional background, crimes that are far more serious than blowing up the WTC would be, if there were any credibility to that thesis. That is, I suspect, why the 9/11 movement is treated far more tolerantly by centers of power than is the norm for serious critical and activist work. Noam Chomsky
#93. To: AGAviator (#92)
You are most amusing. The tape IS a fraud. The man who is allegedly Osama Ben Forgotten has too wide of a nose, is too fat, and in too good of health. In the one autheticated audio tape of Bin Laden addressing 911 he denies having anything to do with it. The reality is that Jorge Arbusto and Fiends needed a boogey man to justify invading Pipelinestan. That was the reason for 911 and it was the reason for this phony video. You are welcome to believe the PsyOps if you wish after all that's what quislings are paid to do. However, your fatuousity is exceeded only by your gullibility. More Kool-Aid?
"One of the least understood strategies of the world revolution now moving rapidly toward its goal is the use of mind control as a major means of obtaining the consent of the people who will be subjects of the New World Order." K.M. Heaton, The National Educator
#94. To: AGAviator, Original_Intent (#92)
It doesn't matter what the messages on the tape are. It's not Bin Laden on the tape.
“It has been said, 'time heals all wounds.' I do not agree. The wounds remain. In time, the mind, protecting its sanity, covers them with scar tissue and the pain lessens, but it is never gone.” ~ Rose F. Kennedy
#95. To: All (#94)
“It has been said, 'time heals all wounds.' I do not agree. The wounds remain. In time, the mind, protecting its sanity, covers them with scar tissue and the pain lessens, but it is never gone.” ~ Rose F. Kennedy
#96. To: wudidiz, AGAviator (#94)
It's not Bin Laden on the tape. Exactly. They could have him reciting the Athanasian Creed and it would still be meaningless. If it is not Bin Laden on the tape, which it is not, then whatever he is alleged to have said on the tape is irrelevant because he never said it.
It doesn't matter what the messages on the tape are.
"One of the least understood strategies of the world revolution now moving rapidly toward its goal is the use of mind control as a major means of obtaining the consent of the people who will be subjects of the New World Order." K.M. Heaton, The National Educator
#97. To: Original_Intent, AGAviator, *9-11* (#96)
“It has been said, 'time heals all wounds.' I do not agree. The wounds remain. In time, the mind, protecting its sanity, covers them with scar tissue and the pain lessens, but it is never gone.” ~ Rose F. Kennedy
#98. To: wudidiz (#97)
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The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one.
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