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Title: Why I Don't Have Any Use for Truthers
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Published: Jul 9, 2010
Author: Turtle
Post Date: 2010-07-09 11:35:19 by Turtle
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Views: 27950
Comments: 879
Poster Comment: This woman had sulfuric acid thrown in her face by guess who? Someone engaging in Typical Negro Behavior. They do this out of envy. "I can't get this woman, so nobody can have her." He got life in prison. These are the real problems, not hallucinations abour remote-controlled airplanes and bombs in towers.
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#91. To: buckeroo (#90)
If he died 9 years ago, don't hold your breath for late breaking news on the matter. As far as the Daily Mail link which I posted, it delves into the analysis of various newer videos, and what various experts have suggested and/or concluded.
Typical whack-job denial. The explicit messages on the tape are as follows Your mental miasma needs treatment. Get off the internet and clean out your garbage with some form of a mental laxative.
------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ One of the major consequences of the 9/11 movement has been to draw enormous amounts of energy and effort away from activism directed to real and ongoing crimes of state, and their institutional background, crimes that are far more serious than blowing up the WTC would be, if there were any credibility to that thesis. That is, I suspect, why the 9/11 movement is treated far more tolerantly by centers of power than is the norm for serious critical and activist work. Noam Chomsky
You are most amusing. The tape IS a fraud. The man who is allegedly Osama Ben Forgotten has too wide of a nose, is too fat, and in too good of health. In the one autheticated audio tape of Bin Laden addressing 911 he denies having anything to do with it. The reality is that Jorge Arbusto and Fiends needed a boogey man to justify invading Pipelinestan. That was the reason for 911 and it was the reason for this phony video. You are welcome to believe the PsyOps if you wish after all that's what quislings are paid to do. However, your fatuousity is exceeded only by your gullibility. More Kool-Aid?
"One of the least understood strategies of the world revolution now moving rapidly toward its goal is the use of mind control as a major means of obtaining the consent of the people who will be subjects of the New World Order." K.M. Heaton, The National Educator
It doesn't matter what the messages on the tape are. It's not Bin Laden on the tape.
It's not Bin Laden on the tape. Exactly. They could have him reciting the Athanasian Creed and it would still be meaningless. If it is not Bin Laden on the tape, which it is not, then whatever he is alleged to have said on the tape is irrelevant because he never said it.
"One of the least understood strategies of the world revolution now moving rapidly toward its goal is the use of mind control as a major means of obtaining the consent of the people who will be subjects of the New World Order." K.M. Heaton, The National Educator
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The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one.
heck. when was the semi blacks name changed to barack h. obama?
dang it OI now you went and made the resident shill for the liar movement cry.
It's not Bin Laden on the tape. Exactly. They could have him reciting the Athanasian Creed and it would still be meaningless Meaningless only to idiots who don't know how to listen and process information to make decisions on. You claim the 2004 OBL tape is a gubmint fabrication. Based on internet amateur self-taught forensics. The fact is, the message of the tape is for American people to wake up, understand their government and military-industrial complex are working against them, and to insure their own security by having a country which respects the security of other people in other parts of the world. The message along with who that message is from is what's important about the tape. It's not about Elvis sightings to any people with brains. For you to ignore and trash this OBL anti-American government/military complex message as being part of the conspiracy and therefore irrelevant, shows it is you who are the real "false flag operatives." You pretend to be at the forefront of people desiring change, but you actually impede any meaningful progress by dismissing key and critical messages, diverting event discussions into preprogrammed strident fringe nostrums, and by making just enough background noise to make people considering new perspectives dismiss the whole subject out of hand to return to their comfort zones. Another key point of who is a "disinfo agent" or "false flag operative" is to look at what side is continuously screaming that label. "Agent provocateurs" who continually scream how their adversaries are false flags are historically the ones who have been the most compromised themselves. So deal with it, gubmint shills. You're phonies and frauds, accusing other people of your own shortcomings.
------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ One of the major consequences of the 9/11 movement has been to draw enormous amounts of energy and effort away from activism directed to real and ongoing crimes of state, and their institutional background, crimes that are far more serious than blowing up the WTC would be, if there were any credibility to that thesis. That is, I suspect, why the 9/11 movement is treated far more tolerantly by centers of power than is the norm for serious critical and activist work. Noam Chomsky
now the factaphobic is really in a tizzy.
For you to ignore and trash this anti-American government/military complex message as being part of a conspiracy and irrelevant, shows it is you who are the real "false flag operatives." You pretend to be at the forefront of people desiring change, but you actually impede any meaningful progress by dismissing key and critical messages, diverting event discussions into preprogrammed strident fringe nostrums, and by making just enough background noise to make people considering new perspectives dismiss the whole subject out of hand to return to their comfort zones. Another key point of who is a "disinfo agent" or "false flag operative" is to look at what side is continuously screaming that label. "Agent provocateurs" who continually scream how their adversaries are historically the ones who have been the most compromised themselves. So deal with it, gubmint shills. You're phonies and frauds, accusing other people of your own shortcomings. Oh this is rich....
Hahahahaha
Another idiotic statement from a non-qualified internet imbecile. This time on aviation. Anybody with more than a couple hours of flight instruction will tell you the most difficult aspects of flying an aircraft are landings, followed by takeoffs. Keeping a plane going straight and on course even at high speed is maybe 5% of the total knowledge and capability needed. The above holds especially true in clear and smooth weather with extended visual ability, an autopilot, and a preprogrammed route. There have even been instances where aircrews have been disciplined for not having anyone at the controls for several minutes, and the planes still traveled safely. The hijackers did not take the planes off themselves, and waited until the planes were at their assigned altitudes before taking over and changing courses on routes that had already been surveyed and plotted. There was nothing to it. Even so, 2 out of the 4 hijacked planes had problems with their attacks due to unexpected events and inexperienced pilots. The 270/330 degreee Pentagon hit on the rear of the building, instead of the front where the top officials had their offices. In a descending power turn, the Pentagon attack pilot failed to compensate for increased lift and needed to salvage any hit at all on the building by coming in from the back, and hitting at a less than straight on 90 degree angle. In the crash in Pennsylvania, the aircraft failed to hit any target because some brave and athletic passengers decided to swarm the attackers and able to overpower them. As recorded by telephone calls at the time they did it. The New York planes were able to hit their targets. That's 50% success completed missions, maybe give Pentagon another 10%-15% for hitting the Pentagon in a different location than planned, and 0% for the Pennsylvania crash. So you actually have your "inexperienced pilot" scenario. But since that doesn't mesh with your own mythology you accuse the gubmint of, you dismiss and ignore the facts, as usual.
------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ One of the major consequences of the 9/11 movement has been to draw enormous amounts of energy and effort away from activism directed to real and ongoing crimes of state, and their institutional background, crimes that are far more serious than blowing up the WTC would be, if there were any credibility to that thesis. That is, I suspect, why the 9/11 movement is treated far more tolerantly by centers of power than is the norm for serious critical and activist work. Noam Chomsky
You wish, pud puller.
------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ One of the major consequences of the 9/11 movement has been to draw enormous amounts of energy and effort away from activism directed to real and ongoing crimes of state, and their institutional background, crimes that are far more serious than blowing up the WTC would be, if there were any credibility to that thesis. That is, I suspect, why the 9/11 movement is treated far more tolerantly by centers of power than is the norm for serious critical and activist work. Noam Chomsky
the goofenheimer must have graduated with top honors from the eweconic school of debate and applied logic .
I see you're still spreading your slime, you worm.
WWGPD? - (What Would General Pinochet Do?)
How the hell does he type so fast and WhyTF does he keep pinging buckeroo and Turtle?
oh, poor ag crying like a school girl.
With all your thousands of internet sites, billions of words, and nearly 9 years you $hitbrains have had to get your 911 k00kology together, tell me exactly how how many people up for election this November will be quoted on your 911 whodunits? Oh, and how are the BC lawsuits going? BVWAHAHAHAHAHAA!!!!!!! Now that's what's rich, losers.
------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ One of the major consequences of the 9/11 movement has been to draw enormous amounts of energy and effort away from activism directed to real and ongoing crimes of state, and their institutional background, crimes that are far more serious than blowing up the WTC would be, if there were any credibility to that thesis. That is, I suspect, why the 9/11 movement is treated far more tolerantly by centers of power than is the norm for serious critical and activist work. Noam Chomsky
peas of pod, queers in a condo, the other two ids residing in his brain ( it's a studio apartment kinda thing) what little there is?.? he keeps posting the same crap because those are the current ideas bouncing around like a pong graphic in his mostly empty cranium.
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------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ One of the major consequences of the 9/11 movement has been to draw enormous amounts of energy and effort away from activism directed to real and ongoing crimes of state, and their institutional background, crimes that are far more serious than blowing up the WTC would be, if there were any credibility to that thesis. That is, I suspect, why the 9/11 movement is treated far more tolerantly by centers of power than is the norm for serious critical and activist work. Noam Chomsky
LOL!!
Crying about many k00ks -zero - you're getting elected? Crying about how many Obama BC lawsuits -zero - are proceeding in court? Crying about how you have reached the mindless state where all you can do is repeat the same old insults and look for strokes from each other? BWAHAHAHAHAAH! Losers. Nobody pays good money for communications to losers. You're irrelevant.
------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ One of the major consequences of the 9/11 movement has been to draw enormous amounts of energy and effort away from activism directed to real and ongoing crimes of state, and their institutional background, crimes that are far more serious than blowing up the WTC would be, if there were any credibility to that thesis. That is, I suspect, why the 9/11 movement is treated far more tolerantly by centers of power than is the norm for serious critical and activist work. Noam Chomsky
Noam Chomsky's Jewish, of course he's gonna say that.
I suppose this wasn't Saddam either. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ One of the major consequences of the 9/11 movement has been to draw enormous amounts of energy and effort away from activism directed to real and ongoing crimes of state, and their institutional background, crimes that are far more serious than blowing up the WTC would be, if there were any credibility to that thesis. That is, I suspect, why the 9/11 movement is treated far more tolerantly by centers of power than is the norm for serious critical and activist work. Noam Chomsky
That looks very much like the same person. Different hair length and one has a beard while the other doesn't. Not really a fair comparison because of the different angles.
Yeah, here.
You should be aware at one time there were a lot of postings that it wasn't Saddam who got actually captured, both because Saddam used doubles, and also because some amateur internet forensicists nit picked over picture details, just like they're doing with the OBL 2004 shots.
------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ One of the major consequences of the 9/11 movement has been to draw enormous amounts of energy and effort away from activism directed to real and ongoing crimes of state, and their institutional background, crimes that are far more serious than blowing up the WTC would be, if there were any credibility to that thesis. That is, I suspect, why the 9/11 movement is treated far more tolerantly by centers of power than is the norm for serious critical and activist work. Noam Chomsky
I had no idea he was so sensitive over the Psychic Friends Network. Honest.
"One of the least understood strategies of the world revolution now moving rapidly toward its goal is the use of mind control as a major means of obtaining the consent of the people who will be subjects of the New World Order." K.M. Heaton, The National Educator
I'm aware of that.
Warning, 2 Different NYFD Fireman Say Building 7 Will Collapse From Existing Damage.
------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ One of the major consequences of the 9/11 movement has been to draw enormous amounts of energy and effort away from activism directed to real and ongoing crimes of state, and their institutional background, crimes that are far more serious than blowing up the WTC would be, if there were any credibility to that thesis. That is, I suspect, why the 9/11 movement is treated far more tolerantly by centers of power than is the norm for serious critical and activist work. Noam Chomsky
I don't know that you're a paid government agent, but I do know you're spreading disinformation. Building 7 fell from controlled demolition.
This video I've never seen before. Strange. Something seems fake about it. Why would the firefighter say, "See the way it's leaning over like that? It's definitely gonna fall. There's no way to stop it..." Have you seen it before?
Tell it to a fireman.
------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ One of the major consequences of the 9/11 movement has been to draw enormous amounts of energy and effort away from activism directed to real and ongoing crimes of state, and their institutional background, crimes that are far more serious than blowing up the WTC would be, if there were any credibility to that thesis. That is, I suspect, why the 9/11 movement is treated far more tolerantly by centers of power than is the norm for serious critical and activist work. Noam Chomsky
Have you seen it before? He had already put a transit on the building several hours previously, and over that time observed a gradual leaning of critical components, as the building mass got re-distributed from damaged columns to more intact ones. Which columns themselves were subject to stresses from their own damages, from uncontrolled fires fed by tens of thousands of gallons of diesel fuel, and misdirected forces. Like he said, "There's no way to stop it."
------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ One of the major consequences of the 9/11 movement has been to draw enormous amounts of energy and effort away from activism directed to real and ongoing crimes of state, and their institutional background, crimes that are far more serious than blowing up the WTC would be, if there were any credibility to that thesis. That is, I suspect, why the 9/11 movement is treated far more tolerantly by centers of power than is the norm for serious critical and activist work. Noam Chomsky
Hey internet CT pushers! Did ya happen to know that over 6 times as many Americans (50%) believe that UFO aliens have abducted humans, than believe it was "very likely" that the WTC Towers were brought down by "secretly planted explosives (6%)?" Of course you didn't!!!!!!! That suuure is a select group of people you're included in. BWAHAHAHAHHAHAHA!!!!! Poll: U.S. Hiding Knowledge of [UFO] Aliens The poll has a margin of error of plus or minus 3 percentage points. • 77% "unlikely" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ One of the major consequences of the 9/11 movement has been to draw enormous amounts of energy and effort away from activism directed to real and ongoing crimes of state, and their institutional background, crimes that are far more serious than blowing up the WTC would be, if there were any credibility to that thesis. That is, I suspect, why the 9/11 movement is treated far more tolerantly by centers of power than is the norm for serious critical and activist work. Noam Chomsky
Of course you didn't!!!!!!! That suuure is a select group of people you're included in. BWAHAHAHAHHAHAHA!!!!! The masses are usually mistaken ... as demonstrated by your post. Are you being paid to report this nonsense ?
Resolve to serve no more, and you are at once freed. I do not ask that you place hands upon the tyrant to topple him over, but simply that you support him no longer; then you will behold him, like a great Colossus whose pedestal has been pulled away, fall of his own weight and break in pieces
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"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
#92. To: Original_Intent, buckeroo, turtle (#55)
Which has been shown repeatedly to be a fraudulent tape of some actor, who does not even look like a close resemblance to the real Bin Laden, hired to make a bad PsyOps video to justify government actions in murdering millions of people.
(1) America was attacked for its support of Israel, not because of its freedoms, which is why America and not Sweden was attacked,
To allege that statements like this are a product of US government conspiracies, when the actually clearly describe the US government taking a path to its own destruction, shows a wilful denial of reality and lack of cognitive skills too inferior to even be described by words.
(2) America's military-industrial complex is not working in the best interests of the American people,
(3) The al Qaida plan is to bankrupt America through constant worldwide guerilla warfare, said in 2004 when it appeared the US was in a "no quagmire" and "world economic leader" mindset,
(4) By his eagerness to take the al Qaida bait anywhere on the planet, Obama and Bush are both working together for this same goal of US bankruptcy, albeit for different reasons,
(5) "All that we have to do is to send two Mujahideen to the furthest point East to raise a piece of cloth on which is written al-Qaida, in order to make the generals race there to cause America to suffer human, economic, and political losses without their achieving for it anything of note other than some benefits for their private companies,"
(6) "It never occurred to us that the commander-in-chief of the American armed forces would abandon 50 000 of his citizens in the twin towers to face those great horrors alone, the time when they most needed him. But because it seemed to him that occupying himself by talking to the little girl about the goat and its butting was more important than occupying himself with the planes and their butting of the skyscrapers. We were given three times the period required,"
(7) "Your security is not in the hands of Kerry, nor Bush, nor al-Qaida. No. Your security is in your own hands."
#93. To: AGAviator (#92)
#94. To: AGAviator, Original_Intent (#92)
“It has been said, 'time heals all wounds.' I do not agree. The wounds remain. In time, the mind, protecting its sanity, covers them with scar tissue and the pain lessens, but it is never gone.” ~ Rose F. Kennedy
#95. To: All (#94)
“It has been said, 'time heals all wounds.' I do not agree. The wounds remain. In time, the mind, protecting its sanity, covers them with scar tissue and the pain lessens, but it is never gone.” ~ Rose F. Kennedy
#96. To: wudidiz, AGAviator (#94)
It doesn't matter what the messages on the tape are.
#97. To: Original_Intent, AGAviator, *9-11* (#96)
“It has been said, 'time heals all wounds.' I do not agree. The wounds remain. In time, the mind, protecting its sanity, covers them with scar tissue and the pain lessens, but it is never gone.” ~ Rose F. Kennedy
#98. To: wudidiz (#97)
#99. To: James Deffenbach (#20)
and I want to see Obama's actual birth certificate (a real one that hasn't been doctored will probably prove he was born in Kenya just like his grandmother said).
computer counted ballots are ballots that have been counted in secret, and with all probability not the way one voted.
#100. To: Original_Intent (#24)
computer counted ballots are ballots that have been counted in secret, and with all probability not the way one voted.
#101. To: Original_Intent, wudidiz, buckeroo, turtle (#96)
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It doesn't matter what the messages on the tape are.
#102. To: Original_Intent, wudidiz (#101)
computer counted ballots are ballots that have been counted in secret, and with all probability not the way one voted.
#103. To: AGAviator, *9-11*, *Escape From ElPee*, *Humor-Weird News*, buckeroo, Turtle, all (#101)
#101. To: Original_Intent, wudidiz, buckeroo, turtle (#96)
“It has been said, 'time heals all wounds.' I do not agree. The wounds remain. In time, the mind, protecting its sanity, covers them with scar tissue and the pain lessens, but it is never gone.” ~ Rose F. Kennedy
#104. To: IRTorqued, Eric Stratton, Original_Intent (#102)
now the factaphobic is really in a tizzy.
“It has been said, 'time heals all wounds.' I do not agree. The wounds remain. In time, the mind, protecting its sanity, covers them with scar tissue and the pain lessens, but it is never gone.” ~ Rose F. Kennedy
#105. To: Original_Intent, buckeroo, turtle (#44)
"19ArabsWhoHateUsCuzWe'reFree" who can't fly competently a single engine Cessna can suddenly fly a Jumbo Jet Airliner like a Master Pilot and remain invisible to the most advanced air defense system.
#106. To: IRTorqued (#102)
#107. To: wudidiz (#104)
computer counted ballots are ballots that have been counted in secret, and with all probability not the way one voted.
#108. To: AGAviator (#105)
#109. To: Original_Intent, AGAviator (#105)
“It has been said, 'time heals all wounds.' I do not agree. The wounds remain. In time, the mind, protecting its sanity, covers them with scar tissue and the pain lessens, but it is never gone.” ~ Rose F. Kennedy
#110. To: AGAviator (#106)
computer counted ballots are ballots that have been counted in secret, and with all probability not the way one voted.
#111. To: wudidiz, buckeroo, turtle (#103)
Oh this is rich....
#112. To: wudidiz (#109)
computer counted ballots are ballots that have been counted in secret, and with all probability not the way one voted.
#113. To: Flintlock (#108)
#114. To: IRTorqued (#112)
a pong graphic
“It has been said, 'time heals all wounds.' I do not agree. The wounds remain. In time, the mind, protecting its sanity, covers them with scar tissue and the pain lessens, but it is never gone.” ~ Rose F. Kennedy
#115. To: IRTorqued, buckeroo, turtle, cynicom (#110)
oh, poor ag crying like a school girl.
#116. To: AGAviator (#113)
“It has been said, 'time heals all wounds.' I do not agree. The wounds remain. In time, the mind, protecting its sanity, covers them with scar tissue and the pain lessens, but it is never gone.” ~ Rose F. Kennedy
#117. To: wudidiz, turtle, buckeroo, cynicom (#97)
#118. To: AGAviator (#117)
“It has been said, 'time heals all wounds.' I do not agree. The wounds remain. In time, the mind, protecting its sanity, covers them with scar tissue and the pain lessens, but it is never gone.” ~ Rose F. Kennedy
#119. To: randge (#1)
Any other nominations for the most stupid post of the year??
“It has been said, 'time heals all wounds.' I do not agree. The wounds remain. In time, the mind, protecting its sanity, covers them with scar tissue and the pain lessens, but it is never gone.” ~ Rose F. Kennedy
#120. To: wudidiz (#118)
That looks very much like the same person.
#121. To: IRTorqued (#100)
dang it OI now you went and made the resident shill for the liar movement cry.
#122. To: AGAviator (#120)
You should be aware at one time there were a lot of postings that it wasn't Saddam who got actually captured, both because Saddam used doubles, and also because some amateur internet forensicists nit picked over picture details, just like they're doing with the OBL 2004 shots.
“It has been said, 'time heals all wounds.' I do not agree. The wounds remain. In time, the mind, protecting its sanity, covers them with scar tissue and the pain lessens, but it is never gone.” ~ Rose F. Kennedy
#123. To: AGAviator (#120)
“It has been said, 'time heals all wounds.' I do not agree. The wounds remain. In time, the mind, protecting its sanity, covers them with scar tissue and the pain lessens, but it is never gone.” ~ Rose F. Kennedy
#124. To: wudidiz, critter, budkeroo, turtle (#95)
WARNING: AGAviator is a paid government agent who is here to spread disinformation. BEWARE!
#125. To: AGAviator (#124)
WARNING: AGAviator is a paid government agent who is here to spread disinformation. BEWARE!
“It has been said, 'time heals all wounds.' I do not agree. The wounds remain. In time, the mind, protecting its sanity, covers them with scar tissue and the pain lessens, but it is never gone.” ~ Rose F. Kennedy
#126. To: Original_Intent, FormerLurker, Eric Stratton, IRTorqued, AGAviator, Flintlock, *9-11* (#124)
“It has been said, 'time heals all wounds.' I do not agree. The wounds remain. In time, the mind, protecting its sanity, covers them with scar tissue and the pain lessens, but it is never gone.” ~ Rose F. Kennedy
#127. To: wudidiz (#125)
Building 7 fell from controlled demolition
#128. To: wudidiz, buckero, criter, turtle. (#126)
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Why would the firefighter say, "See the way it's leaning over like that? It's definitely gonna fall. There's no way to stop it..."
#129. To: Original_Intent, IRTorqued, critter, buckeroo, turtle (#121)
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so sensitive over the Psychic Friends Network. Honest.
Sixty- four percent of the respondents said that aliens have contacted humans,
Half said they've abducted humans, and
37 percent said they have contacted the U.S. government. The collapse of the twin towers in New York was aided by explosives secretly planted in the two buildings"
• 10% "somewhat likely"
• 6% "very likely"[13]
#130. To: AGAviator (#129)
Did ya happen to know that over 6 times as many Americans (50%) believe that UFO aliens have abducted humans, than believe it was "very likely" that the WTC Towers were brought down by "secretly planted explosives (6%)?"
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