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Title: Why I Don't Have Any Use for Truthers
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Published: Jul 9, 2010
Author: Turtle
Post Date: 2010-07-09 11:35:19 by Turtle
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Poster Comment: This woman had sulfuric acid thrown in her face by guess who? Someone engaging in Typical Negro Behavior. They do this out of envy. "I can't get this woman, so nobody can have her." He got life in prison. These are the real problems, not hallucinations abour remote-controlled airplanes and bombs in towers.
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#182. To: buckeroo (#181)
Why is the government covering up what happened on 9/11 if it isn't complicit?
Did mel_living have Jackalope Breeder murdered?
You take up for murdering scumbags and I'm the crazy one? Only in buckeroo world.
Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end. He (Gordon Duff) also implies that forcibly removing Obama, a Constitution-hating, on-the-down-low, crackhead Communist, is an attack on America, Mom, and apple pie. I swear these military people are worse than useless. Just look around at the condition of the country and tell me if they have fulfilled their oaths to protect the nation from all enemies foreign and domestic. I suspect the video may be fake or something is not right about it. Like the mysterious "and then the towers fell due to structural failure" guy who appeared on the spot on tv on 9/11. Or the fake Israeli flotilla videos. Etc., etc. We can't put anything past these people.
ag, you're the one pushing the conspiracy theory by repeating the lies of baalzabush and company and claiming them to be the truth, then you get all pissy because thinking rational people mock you and your ilk for being imbeciles.
First, the government has an average IQ of less than 85; it is an "equal opportunity" employer. The government goes by rigid processes and procedures for each and every qualified member with few exceptions; even those same exceptions are tempered by tradition and history based upon need; in fact, that is why you see 0bama's birth certificate and other publick records. Second, the government ALWAYS acts after the fact. You have never seen any government body ANYWHERE on the planet acting with actual capability and capacity of purpose unless some diabolical charmer was looking for a little power. True, it happens from time to time; Cambodia (PolPot) and popular book/movie, The Killing Fields represents how an entire nation can ensure their own destruction. Third, America has no capability (at the moment) for a tyrant to rise up and play the fiddle for cut-throats and slayers to wantonly kill innocent people. Fourth, and to get at the "meat of your question" .... there is no cover-up; all you see are legal/expert opinions by idiots having an IQ of 85 that could care less about America or you or me .... other than you paying your trumped-upped tax bill to support their ASS.
"we ought to lay off the criticism" -- Pinguinite, circa 2010-05-26 22:17:22 ET
What is an NYPD fireman? A New York Police Department fireman? No such animal, Kemo Sabe.
None of us have ever seen Obama's REAL birth certificate. Just one like Sun Yat Sen had. And he was born in China.
Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end. He (Gordon Duff) also implies that forcibly removing Obama, a Constitution-hating, on-the-down-low, crackhead Communist, is an attack on America, Mom, and apple pie. I swear these military people are worse than useless. Just look around at the condition of the country and tell me if they have fulfilled their oaths to protect the nation from all enemies foreign and domestic. ag must have been ass raped by a group of them there extra-tetesticles. that'll teach him to fish from docks on the mississippi after dark.
Bullshit. They like to pretend they're dumb, it gives them cover for all the things they do which they don't want people asking too many questions about. As far as the 9/11 coverup, it is going on to this day, and began minutes after, if not in fact during the actual attacks themselves. They announced the names of the "hijackers" the same day, and conveniently located the "hijackers" car in the parking garage in Boston within minutes after the attacks. They didn't even TRY to determine if the buildings were brought down with explosives, even though almost EVERY terrorist attack HAS involved explosives. Any mention of possible explosives within the towers was dubbed a "conspiracy theory" within days after the attacks, with no serious investigation of the crime scene at all, just a whitewash cursory analysis using "computer models". The victims' families had to pressure the Bush administration to even conduct an investigation, leading to the 9/11 Commission, whose very members called it a whitewash and a farce.
and it gives guys like bucky the belief they have a shot at one of those GS-9 slots.
"we ought to lay off the criticism" -- Pinguinite, circa 2010-05-26 22:17:22 ET
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The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one.
Perfect example of the conspiracist mindset. Calls Buzz such words to his face, and he doesn't expect to get punched?
St. Ausgustine on the State: "It was a criminal band that achieved legitimacy not by renouncing aggression, but rather by attaining impunity."
Yeah, get with the program, James, quit thinking about things Bucky doesn't want you thinking. It's for the good of America. You don't hate America, do you?
"The people in power will not disappear voluntarily, giving flowers to the cops just isn't going to work. This thinking is fostered by the establishment; they like nothing better than love and nonviolence. The only way I like to see cops given flowers is in a flower pot from a high window.” - William S Burroughs
No, I sure don't. I love America and that is why I hate to see it being ruined.
Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end. He (Gordon Duff) also implies that forcibly removing Obama, a Constitution-hating, on-the-down-low, crackhead Communist, is an attack on America, Mom, and apple pie. I swear these military people are worse than useless. Just look around at the condition of the country and tell me if they have fulfilled their oaths to protect the nation from all enemies foreign and domestic. And why wouldn't just that side of the building fall instead of the whole thing which was clearly, oh most clearly, fallen like a planned demolition? Even the "official" rejects that did the charade 9/11 commission report have no answers. Either way, it's comical how the neocons don't trust the government, but when it comes to "national security" they trust them hook, line, and sinker to the extent that they're afraid of even looking at the actual facts. Yeah, nothing troubling there with their behavior. LOL It's after thoughts like that that I think to myself how 90% of this nation deserves what's coming whether it be serfdom, apocalyptic destruction, or whatever. Exactly, if building 7 were a natural collapse, a catastrophic failure, you would see it slump and tumble over not neatly pancake into its own footprint at a near freefall rate*. What was observed carries all of the signatures of a controlled demolition. The collapse was initiated simultaneously at all 4 corners 360 degrees (which only happens in a controlled demolition) and if you slow the film down and watch the collapse in slow motion you'll notice that two cracks form very early in the collapse - those are located at the left and right perimeter of the central core of the building which, like the twin towers, was an immensely strong structure of heavy steel beams and cross bracing and, based on the film, that is what collapses first the central load bearing structure for the building and then it collapses symmetrically inward with all 4 corners collapsing in the same instant of time - just as one would expect in a controlled demolition. Another thing the shills avoid like the plague is the fact that the central core of the building had been beefed up and hardened so that Bldg. 7 (23rd Floor) could serve as the city's central command center in a catastrophe such as a hurricane or earthquake. So, the structure was actually stronger than the very strong structure that was originally built. Yet at 11 O'clock in the morning Rudy Ghouliani already knew it was going to collapse and the command center was evacuated. He was actually captured in news footage saying so. Rudy has been very disingenuous in that at one of his news conferences about the day of 911 he stated that they had evacuated by 11 A.M. or so because of the risk of the building collapsing, and yet no one at that time was talking about collapse. That was barely 2 hours after the initial event. When confronted later on he tried saying that he did not say that but when confronted with a recording of what he said he didn't have much to say other than to sputter and run. 1. The collapse initiated simultaneously symmetrically in 360 degrees. At time zero, immediately prior to the initiation of collapse, telltale "squibs" of dust/smoke can be seen erupting at the levels coincident with the floors of the building. These are most reasonably explained as the demolition charges going off to turn the structural support to nothing. "One of the least understood strategies of the world revolution now moving rapidly toward its goal is the use of mind control as a major means of obtaining the consent of the people who will be subjects of the New World Order." K.M. Heaton, The National Educator
Why do you believe that to be so? And here I'm serious; I would like to know what reasoning and evidence you base that assessment on. I know the government, particularly CIA, almost routinely whacks people who are "inconvenient" (Witness the murder of Deborah Jean Palfrey - the "D.C. Madam").
"One of the least understood strategies of the world revolution now moving rapidly toward its goal is the use of mind control as a major means of obtaining the consent of the people who will be subjects of the New World Order." K.M. Heaton, The National Educator
I think buck, aggravator and the turtle need to try their "gubmint wouldn't do such a thing" out on someone else, some other site. Maybe they can find a site where only mental patients with IQ's of 38 or lower are allowed to play with the computers. They might be able to make them believe such twaddle.
Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end. He (Gordon Duff) also implies that forcibly removing Obama, a Constitution-hating, on-the-down-low, crackhead Communist, is an attack on America, Mom, and apple pie. I swear these military people are worse than useless. Just look around at the condition of the country and tell me if they have fulfilled their oaths to protect the nation from all enemies foreign and domestic. True. And it may be that they are aware of that and have another motive - like diverting us from discussing the Oilcano in the Gulf and the Epic Fail of the Oh'bummer maladministration to deal with it. And in fact the apparent intentionally not dealing with it, along with the shut down of air monitoring in the Gulf, the blocking out of reporters or overflights of the area, etc., ...
"One of the least understood strategies of the world revolution now moving rapidly toward its goal is the use of mind control as a major means of obtaining the consent of the people who will be subjects of the New World Order." K.M. Heaton, The National Educator
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The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one.
Yes, that's a possibility too.
Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end. He (Gordon Duff) also implies that forcibly removing Obama, a Constitution-hating, on-the-down-low, crackhead Communist, is an attack on America, Mom, and apple pie. I swear these military people are worse than useless. Just look around at the condition of the country and tell me if they have fulfilled their oaths to protect the nation from all enemies foreign and domestic. At the top of the thread, Turtle introduced the concept of HATE. Mel hated Jackalope as he time and time and time again kicked her teeth in for being a fucked-upped pundit. She lived not too far away, either.... and probably had one of her illegal friends do her dirty deed. And she tried to have me murdered as well.
"we ought to lay off the criticism" -- Pinguinite, circa 2010-05-26 22:17:22 ET
I don't think Mel has that kind of pull.
Name calling is juvenile.
You don't [know] what goes on in the mind of a deranged animal; mel_giving was a devious, nasty bitch fucking around anyone that confronted her. I hope she rots in HELL.
"we ought to lay off the criticism" -- Pinguinite, circa 2010-05-26 22:17:22 ET
Yes, that's a possibility too. Another thought that occurred to me while I was looking at your reply which ties the two together is the following: If they do not continue to prop up the false "Official Conspiracy Theory™" then it leads people toward considering that the Oilcano in the Gulf was not quite as accidental as is maintained. And of course once one is accepted the other possibility becomes more real in that person's mind. In other words it still all ties back to 911. They MUST continue to support the lie of "19ArabsWithBoxCuttersWhoHateUsCuzWe'reFree", because to do otherwise leads to everything else beginning to unravel. After that comes "Peasants with Pitchforks".
"One of the least understood strategies of the world revolution now moving rapidly toward its goal is the use of mind control as a major means of obtaining the consent of the people who will be subjects of the New World Order." K.M. Heaton, The National Educator
NY ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ One of the major consequences of the 9/11 movement has been to draw enormous amounts of energy and effort away from activism directed to real and ongoing crimes of state, and their institutional background, crimes that are far more serious than blowing up the WTC would be, if there were any credibility to that thesis. That is, I suspect, why the 9/11 movement is treated far more tolerantly by centers of power than is the norm for serious critical and activist work. Noam Chomsky
At the top of the thread, Turtle introduced the concept of HATE. Mel hated Jackalope as he time and time and time again kicked her teeth in for being a fucked-upped pundit. She lived not too far away, either.... and probably had one of her illegal friends do her dirty deed. And she tried to have me murdered as well. In other words it is based on your dislike and distrust of her, but no hard evidence. That of course raises the possibility that it wasn't her. So, without something firm I would not fix on her as the only possibility as that blinds you to looking for other clues or evidence.
"One of the least understood strategies of the world revolution now moving rapidly toward its goal is the use of mind control as a major means of obtaining the consent of the people who will be subjects of the New World Order." K.M. Heaton, The National Educator
You would think that it would only take one event like 9/11 to wake folks up but maybe one is not enough. I really do worry though about the long-term effects of this thing in the Gulf. And I wonder if BP hates us cuz we beze free too.
Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end. He (Gordon Duff) also implies that forcibly removing Obama, a Constitution-hating, on-the-down-low, crackhead Communist, is an attack on America, Mom, and apple pie. I swear these military people are worse than useless. Just look around at the condition of the country and tell me if they have fulfilled their oaths to protect the nation from all enemies foreign and domestic. It's my understanding that NYC's fire department is officially FDNY, which I thought a bit odd, but why didn't you know that?
"The people in power will not disappear voluntarily, giving flowers to the cops just isn't going to work. This thinking is fostered by the establishment; they like nothing better than love and nonviolence. The only way I like to see cops given flowers is in a flower pot from a high window.” - William S Burroughs
NYPFD The correct appellation is "FDNY" or Fire Department New York. I can see you've studied the issues closely. /sarcasm
"One of the least understood strategies of the world revolution now moving rapidly toward its goal is the use of mind control as a major means of obtaining the consent of the people who will be subjects of the New World Order." K.M. Heaton, The National Educator
Bastard! You beat me. ;-)
"One of the least understood strategies of the world revolution now moving rapidly toward its goal is the use of mind control as a major means of obtaining the consent of the people who will be subjects of the New World Order." K.M. Heaton, The National Educator
Sheesh, even I caught that and I'm drunk most of the time.
"The people in power will not disappear voluntarily, giving flowers to the cops just isn't going to work. This thinking is fostered by the establishment; they like nothing better than love and nonviolence. The only way I like to see cops given flowers is in a flower pot from a high window.” - William S Burroughs
No doubt. We're the "little people" and we have no business putting on "airs" like we're free or some such nonsense.
"One of the least understood strategies of the world revolution now moving rapidly toward its goal is the use of mind control as a major means of obtaining the consent of the people who will be subjects of the New World Order." K.M. Heaton, The National Educator
ROTFL..... the conjecture, the spontaneity, the "off-the-top" .... it just doesn't get better than this. No wonder I don't watch television anymore.
"we ought to lay off the criticism" -- Pinguinite, circa 2010-05-26 22:17:22 ET
LOL!
Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end. He (Gordon Duff) also implies that forcibly removing Obama, a Constitution-hating, on-the-down-low, crackhead Communist, is an attack on America, Mom, and apple pie. I swear these military people are worse than useless. Just look around at the condition of the country and tell me if they have fulfilled their oaths to protect the nation from all enemies foreign and domestic. I'm a wizard with low-hanging fruit.
"The people in power will not disappear voluntarily, giving flowers to the cops just isn't going to work. This thinking is fostered by the establishment; they like nothing better than love and nonviolence. The only way I like to see cops given flowers is in a flower pot from a high window.” - William S Burroughs
No little faggot bitch, it's you Six Percenters that are gonna get ass raped when your incessant blathering makes people sick and tired of you all. Just like 72-year old astrounaut Buzz Aldrin cold cocking a 36-year old Six Percenter twit who walked up to him demanding he swear on a Bible he walked on the moon, then ignored Aldrin's telling him to get out of his face, then called Aldrin a coward, liar, and thief. Better make sure your k00kblather stays on the Internet, that's all I've got to say.
------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ One of the major consequences of the 9/11 movement has been to draw enormous amounts of energy and effort away from activism directed to real and ongoing crimes of state, and their institutional background, crimes that are far more serious than blowing up the WTC would be, if there were any credibility to that thesis. That is, I suspect, why the 9/11 movement is treated far more tolerantly by centers of power than is the norm for serious critical and activist work. Noam Chomsky
Go stick it where the Sun don't shine. The very night that fucking bitch placed my personal data on the Internet, my home was shot at, not once but several times. She is a harbinger of animosity and despair; a little Hitler.
"we ought to lay off the criticism" -- Pinguinite, circa 2010-05-26 22:17:22 ET
ROTFL..... the conjecture, the spontaneity, the "off-the-top" .... it just doesn't get better than this. No wonder I don't watch television anymore. Of course it's conjecture. It is simply one attempt to set the facts into a framework that makes sense. It is simply one possible hypothesis and I did not, and do not, label it as a dead certainty. However, we are dealing with people who are NEVER on the up an up and so it requires a little old fashioned skull sweat to try and figure out what they are really up to.
"One of the least understood strategies of the world revolution now moving rapidly toward its goal is the use of mind control as a major means of obtaining the consent of the people who will be subjects of the New World Order." K.M. Heaton, The National Educator
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"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
#183. To: buckeroo (#181)
#184. To: buckeroo (#181)
You are quickly becoming a "KOO-KOO for Coca Puffs candidate" if you keep this silly equation up.
Lord Acton
OsamaBinGoldstein posted on 2010-05-25 9:39:59 ET (2 images) Reply Trace
#185. To: Eric Stratton (#132)
“It has been said, 'time heals all wounds.' I do not agree. The wounds remain. In time, the mind, protecting its sanity, covers them with scar tissue and the pain lessens, but it is never gone.” ~ Rose F. Kennedy
#186. To: AGAviator, Original_Intent, critter, (#129)
computer counted ballots are ballots that have been counted in secret, and with all probability not the way one voted.
#187. To: FormerLurker (#182)
Why is the government covering up what happened on 9/11 if it isn't complicit?
#188. To: AGAviator (#155)
a NYPD fireman
#189. To: buckeroo (#187)
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that is why you see 0bama's birth certificate and other publick records.
Lord Acton
OsamaBinGoldstein posted on 2010-05-25 9:39:59 ET (2 images) Reply Trace
#190. To: noone222 (#164)
computer counted ballots are ballots that have been counted in secret, and with all probability not the way one voted.
#191. To: buckeroo (#187)
First, the government has an average IQ of less than 85
"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
#192. To: FormerLurker (#191)
First, the government has an average IQ of less than 85
Bullshit. They like to pretend they're dumb, it gives them cover for all the things they do which they don't want people asking too many questions about.
computer counted ballots are ballots that have been counted in secret, and with all probability not the way one voted.
#193. To: 2big2fail (#183)
Did mel_living have Jackalope Breeder murdered?
#194. To: wudidiz (#185)
#195. To: AGAviator (#160)
#196. To: buckeroo, James Deffenbach (#181)
But this has nothing to do with wanton government destruction in 2001 based on the 9/11 tragedy. You are quickly becoming a "KOO-KOO for Coca Puffs candidate" if you keep this silly equation up.
#197. To: Dakmar (#196)
You don't hate America, do you?
Lord Acton
OsamaBinGoldstein posted on 2010-05-25 9:39:59 ET (2 images) Reply Trace
#198. To: Eric Stratton, wudidiz, James Deffenbach, IRTorqued, Flintlock, X-15, FormerLurker, all (#132)
Why would the firefighter say, "See the way it's leaning over like that? It's definitely gonna fall. There's no way to stop it..."
*Freefall from the top of the building was 6 seconds, and the structure itself collapsed in about 6.5 to 6.6 seconds. There were a few precursor signs a few seconds earlier looking down from the top, but the actual pancake collapse went in 6.6 seconds - less than a seconds difference between freefall and what was observed and recorded. The only way that could conceivably happen is if the central core structure was removed, and the only way to remove it fast enough to allow for all of the characteristics of the collapse is explosive demolition. The key signatures of which were:
2. The simultaneous cracking of the facade two equidistant locations corresponding to interior location of the building's steel beam core.
3. A neat, tidy, symmetrical collapse into its own footprint with NO outward slumping i.e., the building imploded.
4. The complete collapse of the reinforced steel girder core of the building (which was the main load bearing structure).
5. The collapse was complete in barely a half second more than pure freefall with no resistance, other than friction, and the only way that can occur is to remove the heavily reinforced steel girder core, and the only way to do that fast enough to account for the other signatures is explosive demolition.
#199. To: buckeroo, 2big2fail (#193)
Did mel_living have Jackalope Breeder murdered?
#200. To: Original_Intent, buckeroo, aggravator, Turtle (#198)
Lord Acton
OsamaBinGoldstein posted on 2010-05-25 9:39:59 ET (2 images) Reply Trace
#201. To: James Deffenbach (#200)
Maybe they can find a site where only mental patients with IQ's of 38 or lower are allowed to play with the computers. They might be able to make them believe such twaddle.
#202. To: Original_Intent (#198)
#203. To: Original_Intent (#201)
True. And it may be that they are aware of that and have another motive - like diverting us from discussing the Oilcano in the Gulf and the Epic Fail of the Oh'bummer maladministration to deal with it. And in fact the apparent intentionally not dealing with it, along with the shut down of air monitoring in the Gulf, the blocking out of reporters or overflights of the area, etc., ...
Lord Acton
OsamaBinGoldstein posted on 2010-05-25 9:39:59 ET (2 images) Reply Trace
#204. To: Original_Intent, Turtle (#199)
Why do you believe that to be so? And here I'm serious; I would like to know what reasoning and evidence you base that assessment on.
#205. To: buckeroo (#204)
#206. To: farmfriend (#205)
(Edited)
#207. To: James Deffenbach (#203)
True. And it may be that they are aware of that and have another motive - like diverting us from discussing the Oilcano in the Gulf and the Epic Fail of the Oh'bummer maladministration to deal with it. And in fact the apparent intentionally not dealing with it, along with the shut down of air monitoring in the Gulf, the blocking out of reporters or overflights of the area, etc., ...
#208. To: 2big2fail (#188)
a NYPD fireman What is an NYPD fireman?
PFD
#209. To: buckeroo, farmfriend (#204)
Why do you believe that to be so? And here I'm serious; I would like to know what reasoning and evidence you base that assessment on.
#210. To: Original_Intent (#207)
Lord Acton
OsamaBinGoldstein posted on 2010-05-25 9:39:59 ET (2 images) Reply Trace
#211. To: AGAviator (#208)
#212. To: AGAviator, 2big2fail (#208)
a NYPD fireman What is an NYPD fireman?
#213. To: Dakmar (#211)
#214. To: Original_Intent (#212)
FDNY
#215. To: James Deffenbach (#210)
And I wonder if BP hates us cuz we beze free too.
#216. To: Original_Intent (#207)
If they do not continue to prop up the false "Official Conspiracy Theory™" then it leads people toward considering that the Oilcano in the Gulf was not quite as accidental as is maintained.
#217. To: Dakmar (#214)
Sheesh, even I caught that and I'm drunk most of the time.
Lord Acton
OsamaBinGoldstein posted on 2010-05-25 9:39:59 ET (2 images) Reply Trace
#218. To: Original_Intent (#213)
Bastard! You beat me.
#219. To: IRTorqued (#190)
ag must have been ass raped by a group of them there extra-tetesticles. that'll teach him to fish from docks on the mississippi after dark.
#220. To: Original_Intent (#209)
.. but no hard evidence.
#221. To: buckeroo (#216)
If they do not continue to prop up the false "Official Conspiracy Theory™" then it leads people toward considering that the Oilcano in the Gulf was not quite as accidental as is maintained.
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