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Title: Why I Don't Have Any Use for Truthers
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Published: Jul 9, 2010
Author: Turtle
Post Date: 2010-07-09 11:35:19 by Turtle
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Views: 32139
Comments: 879


Poster Comment:

This woman had sulfuric acid thrown in her face by guess who? Someone engaging in Typical Negro Behavior.

They do this out of envy. "I can't get this woman, so nobody can have her."

He got life in prison.

These are the real problems, not hallucinations abour remote-controlled airplanes and bombs in towers. (1 image)

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#462. To: Flintlock (#459)

911 was clearly an inside job.

Oh c'mon, not you too. I can't believe some of the brightest here on 4um could actually suggest they believe that theory.

Now, I can understand sentiment about the government having indirect capability. But, that is because of ineptitude, blunders and too much political BS. But this is no reason to believe the government in any branch or level would commit an act of treason and tyranny and outright murder and destruction costing the US taxpayer trillions upon trillions of dollars.

Can you realistically cite one serious qualified witness about all this tragedy that government was complicit in a planning activity for 911?

"we ought to lay off the criticism" -- Pinguinite, circa 2010-05-26 22:17:22 ET

buckeroo  posted on  2010-07-12   1:14:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#463. To: AGAviator, FormerLurker (#461)

Holy Spamination.


“It has been said, 'time heals all wounds.' I do not agree. The wounds remain. In time, the mind, protecting its sanity, covers them with scar tissue and the pain lessens, but it is never gone.” ~ Rose F. Kennedy

wudidiz  posted on  2010-07-12   1:14:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#464. To: FormerLurker (#453)

Wrong asswipe. You stated that the towers were burning for hours with tens of thousands of (something, I assumed gallons) of diesel fuel, where there were only about 3500 gallons of JET fuel available for the fires

My reference to 20,000 gallons was to WTC 7, illiterate.

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One of the major consequences of the 9/11 movement has been to draw enormous amounts of energy and effort away from activism directed to real and ongoing crimes of state, and their institutional background, crimes that are far more serious than blowing up the WTC would be, if there were any credibility to that thesis. That is, I suspect, why the 9/11 movement is treated far more tolerantly by centers of power than is the norm for serious critical and activist work. Noam Chomsky

AGAviator  posted on  2010-07-12   1:14:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#465. To: buckeroo, Flintlock (#462)

911 was clearly an inside job.

Oh c'mon, not you too. I can't believe some of the brightest here on 4um could actually suggest they believe that theory.

Maybe if you spent less time trying to sound smart and more time thinking smart, you'd understand.


“It has been said, 'time heals all wounds.' I do not agree. The wounds remain. In time, the mind, protecting its sanity, covers them with scar tissue and the pain lessens, but it is never gone.” ~ Rose F. Kennedy

wudidiz  posted on  2010-07-12   1:16:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#466. To: wudidiz (#460)

Buck wants everybody to go to sleep because he's tired and wants the last word.

It was a nice pretty day in NYC on September 11, 2001. Not a chemtrail in the sky ..........

"we ought to lay off the criticism" -- Pinguinite, circa 2010-05-26 22:17:22 ET

buckeroo  posted on  2010-07-12   1:16:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#467. To: wudidiz (#463) (Edited)

Holy Spamination.

That's a real world NORAD transcript with inferences and commentary by knowledgeable subject matter experts.

Not a CT one paragraph puffball simple enough for k00ks to glom onto and parrot back and forth to each other in groupthink sessions.

Such is life.

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One of the major consequences of the 9/11 movement has been to draw enormous amounts of energy and effort away from activism directed to real and ongoing crimes of state, and their institutional background, crimes that are far more serious than blowing up the WTC would be, if there were any credibility to that thesis. That is, I suspect, why the 9/11 movement is treated far more tolerantly by centers of power than is the norm for serious critical and activist work. Noam Chomsky

AGAviator  posted on  2010-07-12   1:17:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#468. To: Flintlock, buckeroo (#459) (Edited)

The neocons would have done ANYTHING to get us involved in a land war in the ME and they did.

This is true. However they had some willing accomplices with the OBL movement, so he did exactly what both the USG and the jihadis wanted - for different reasons, each thinking they would come out on top.

Ever heard the saying "it takes two to fight?"

OBL had already destroyed 2 US Embassies in Africa, had issued many statements including fatwahs and press conferences in the 1990's on various media outlets, and ran training camps on the Afghan-Pakistan border to get visitors ready to take the jihad back to their home or residence countries. All these factors were known years before 911.

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One of the major consequences of the 9/11 movement has been to draw enormous amounts of energy and effort away from activism directed to real and ongoing crimes of state, and their institutional background, crimes that are far more serious than blowing up the WTC would be, if there were any credibility to that thesis. That is, I suspect, why the 9/11 movement is treated far more tolerantly by centers of power than is the norm for serious critical and activist work. Noam Chomsky

AGAviator  posted on  2010-07-12   1:23:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#469. To: AGAviator (#467)

Fine, but it's kinda long, you could've just linked to it.

Like anyone's gonna read that.

:-) lol


“It has been said, 'time heals all wounds.' I do not agree. The wounds remain. In time, the mind, protecting its sanity, covers them with scar tissue and the pain lessens, but it is never gone.” ~ Rose F. Kennedy

wudidiz  posted on  2010-07-12   1:25:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#470. To: AGAviator (#468)

OBL had already destroyed 2 US Embassies in Africa, had issued many statements includingfatwahs and press conferences in the 1990's on various media outlets, and ran training camps on the Afghan-Pakistan border to get visitors ready to take the jihad back to their home or residence countries. All these factors were known years before 911.

Yeah, and all Bill Clinton got was an aspirin tablet factory and a school/church in two separate incidents.

America paid dearly for both of these failed missions.

"we ought to lay off the criticism" -- Pinguinite, circa 2010-05-26 22:17:22 ET

buckeroo  posted on  2010-07-12   1:32:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#471. To: wudidiz (#469)

Fine, but it's kinda long, you could've just linked to it.

Seriously, how many people would wade through that off-site? Anyway it's done.

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One of the major consequences of the 9/11 movement has been to draw enormous amounts of energy and effort away from activism directed to real and ongoing crimes of state, and their institutional background, crimes that are far more serious than blowing up the WTC would be, if there were any credibility to that thesis. That is, I suspect, why the 9/11 movement is treated far more tolerantly by centers of power than is the norm for serious critical and activist work. Noam Chomsky

AGAviator  posted on  2010-07-12   1:32:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#472. To: wudidiz (#469)

Like anyone's gonna read that.

Why don't you go out right now .... lay down on the grass facing up to the sky and blow the chemtrails away?

"we ought to lay off the criticism" -- Pinguinite, circa 2010-05-26 22:17:22 ET

buckeroo  posted on  2010-07-12   1:34:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#473. To: buckeroo (#462)

Can you realistically cite one serious qualified witness about all this tragedy that government was complicit in a planning activity for 911?

Witness or investigator? Yeah, Jesse Ventura

But not now or on this thread. Gov shill boy has spammed it up and nobody is ever going to read it.

Lets just say they couldn't find the "black boxes" (Ventura did) but they COULD find some patsy's passport (ink still wet no doubt). LOL, yeah, right.

Some guy with only flight simulator time executes a perfect 30+ degree (aerobatic) turn after finding the building, then scores a bulls-eye?. Yeah, right, LOL

There's a lot more but I hate wasting my time on this thread.

WWGPD? - (What Would General Pinochet Do?)

Flintlock  posted on  2010-07-12   1:37:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#474. To: buckeroo (#472)

Why don't you go out and buy a big crack toke, come home, do it and tell us if it made you any cleverer?


“It has been said, 'time heals all wounds.' I do not agree. The wounds remain. In time, the mind, protecting its sanity, covers them with scar tissue and the pain lessens, but it is never gone.” ~ Rose F. Kennedy

wudidiz  posted on  2010-07-12   1:38:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#475. To: AGAviator (#468)

Ever heard the saying "it takes two to fight?"

Ever heard the saying you're a gov plant and stooge?

WARNING: AGAviator is a paid government agent who is here to spread disinformation. BEWARE!

WWGPD? - (What Would General Pinochet Do?)

Flintlock  posted on  2010-07-12   1:40:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#476. To: Flintlock (#473)

Witness or investigator? Yeah, Jesse Ventura

Oh ... just GREAT! A has-been wrestler, failed Governor ...

He wasn't in NYC on the government planning to destroy ANYTHING. I wager he was getting his face make-up creating some political statement for and about himself that day.

He has no inside knowledge. If he did, he would have admitted his sources.

"we ought to lay off the criticism" -- Pinguinite, circa 2010-05-26 22:17:22 ET

buckeroo  posted on  2010-07-12   1:42:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#477. To: wudidiz (#474)

Why don't you go out and buy a big crack toke, come home, do it and tell us if it made you any cleverer?

Is that what you do in Canada?

"we ought to lay off the criticism" -- Pinguinite, circa 2010-05-26 22:17:22 ET

buckeroo  posted on  2010-07-12   1:44:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#478. To: buckeroo, Flintlock (#473)

Spammed it up and nobody is ever going to read it.

Six Percenter now saying that NORAD transcripts contradicting back of the envelope NORAD airspeed k00kulations are spam.

Surprise!

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One of the major consequences of the 9/11 movement has been to draw enormous amounts of energy and effort away from activism directed to real and ongoing crimes of state, and their institutional background, crimes that are far more serious than blowing up the WTC would be, if there were any credibility to that thesis. That is, I suspect, why the 9/11 movement is treated far more tolerantly by centers of power than is the norm for serious critical and activist work. Noam Chomsky

AGAviator  posted on  2010-07-12   1:44:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#479. To: buckeroo (#476)

Watch the show

Here's part #1

WWGPD? - (What Would General Pinochet Do?)

Flintlock  posted on  2010-07-12   1:45:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#480. To: Flintlock (#475)

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One of the major consequences of the 9/11 movement has been to draw enormous amounts of energy and effort away from activism directed to real and ongoing crimes of state, and their institutional background, crimes that are far more serious than blowing up the WTC would be, if there were any credibility to that thesis. That is, I suspect, why the 9/11 movement is treated far more tolerantly by centers of power than is the norm for serious critical and activist work. Noam Chomsky

AGAviator  posted on  2010-07-12   1:48:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#481. To: Flintlock (#473)

Some guy with only flight simulator time executes a perfect 30+ degree (aerobatic) turn after finding the building, then scores a bulls-eye?. Yeah, right, LOL

The illegal alien terrorists had plenty of actual flight training... in fact, several were in US flight schools receiving American taxpayer support for that same training.

You should feel cheated and defiled and lied to. I do. But that is not a direct connection towards government complicity about 9-11.

"we ought to lay off the criticism" -- Pinguinite, circa 2010-05-26 22:17:22 ET

buckeroo  posted on  2010-07-12   1:49:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#482. To: Flintlock (#473)

There's a lot more but I hate wasting my time on this thread.


“It has been said, 'time heals all wounds.' I do not agree. The wounds remain. In time, the mind, protecting its sanity, covers them with scar tissue and the pain lessens, but it is never gone.” ~ Rose F. Kennedy

wudidiz  posted on  2010-07-12   1:50:05 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#483. To: AGAviator (#478)

Hey kOOKaNuTTer, if you travel 130 miles, and the travel time is 25 minutes, how fast are you going?


"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen

FormerLurker  posted on  2010-07-12   1:51:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#484. To: All (#482)

Soft Porn Break.....


“It has been said, 'time heals all wounds.' I do not agree. The wounds remain. In time, the mind, protecting its sanity, covers them with scar tissue and the pain lessens, but it is never gone.” ~ Rose F. Kennedy

wudidiz  posted on  2010-07-12   1:52:59 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#485. To: All (#479) (Edited)

>

WWGPD? - (What Would General Pinochet Do?)

Flintlock  posted on  2010-07-12   1:53:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#486. To: AGAviator (#478)

Surprise!

Nothing surprises me on the Internet. I have been here way too long ... with very thick skin, BTW.

I will say this, you are a breath of fresh aire on 4um. Some of your posts are well researched and take quite a bit of time to find, authenticate and format. Thank you, AG.

"we ought to lay off the criticism" -- Pinguinite, circa 2010-05-26 22:17:22 ET

buckeroo  posted on  2010-07-12   1:53:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#487. To: AGAviator (#480)

If you're typing, you're lying

WARNING: AGAviator is a paid government agent who is here to spread disinformation. BEWARE!

WWGPD? - (What Would General Pinochet Do?)

Flintlock  posted on  2010-07-12   1:54:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#488. To: buckeroo (#481)

The illegal alien terrorists had plenty of actual flight training... in fact, several were in US flight schools receiving American taxpayer support for that same training.

Only 2 out of the 4 hijacked planes on 911 hit their targets fully successful, so you can say there was not complete hijacker competence.

The Pentagon hit was an attempt to get a plane in a diving power turn to hit the building at all - it got too much lift going down to hit the north side, and ended up going in from the back at an oblique angle, not straight on, into a section that was being renovated and not Rumsfeld's offices facing the Potomac.

The Pennsylvania crash was a complete failure to hit the target, leaving the 2 NY hits as the only completely successful attacks, with extra bonus from WTC 7 going down and serious damage to other buildings from the Twin Tower consequences .

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One of the major consequences of the 9/11 movement has been to draw enormous amounts of energy and effort away from activism directed to real and ongoing crimes of state, and their institutional background, crimes that are far more serious than blowing up the WTC would be, if there were any credibility to that thesis. That is, I suspect, why the 9/11 movement is treated far more tolerantly by centers of power than is the norm for serious critical and activist work. Noam Chomsky

AGAviator  posted on  2010-07-12   1:55:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#489. To: buckeroo (#486)

I will say this, you are a breath of fresh aire on 4um

Buck, are you down to one brain cell?

You're acting like it

WWGPD? - (What Would General Pinochet Do?)

Flintlock  posted on  2010-07-12   1:55:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#490. To: buckeroo (#486)

with very thick skin

I think you're confusing your skin with your head.


“It has been said, 'time heals all wounds.' I do not agree. The wounds remain. In time, the mind, protecting its sanity, covers them with scar tissue and the pain lessens, but it is never gone.” ~ Rose F. Kennedy

wudidiz  posted on  2010-07-12   1:56:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#491. To: FormerLurker (#483) (Edited)

Hey kOOKaNuTTer, if you travel 130 miles, and the travel time is 25 minutes, how fast are you going?

I already gave you timetable saying the max time between notification and crashes was 8 minutes, not 25, and the fighters were over the Atlantic and unable to get precise vectors to what or where they were supposed to be intercepting, due to transponders not transmitting IFF's.

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One of the major consequences of the 9/11 movement has been to draw enormous amounts of energy and effort away from activism directed to real and ongoing crimes of state, and their institutional background, crimes that are far more serious than blowing up the WTC would be, if there were any credibility to that thesis. That is, I suspect, why the 9/11 movement is treated far more tolerantly by centers of power than is the norm for serious critical and activist work. Noam Chomsky

AGAviator  posted on  2010-07-12   1:58:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#492. To: All (#484)

I found her while searching for "This thread sucks" and thought she belonged here.

Is that wrong?


“It has been said, 'time heals all wounds.' I do not agree. The wounds remain. In time, the mind, protecting its sanity, covers them with scar tissue and the pain lessens, but it is never gone.” ~ Rose F. Kennedy

wudidiz  posted on  2010-07-12   1:58:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#493. To: AGAviator (#488)

Only 2 out of the 4 hijacked planes on 911 hit their targets fully successful, so you can say there was not complete hijacker competence.

They were too nervous ... they were about to receive their 78 virgins in heaven, remember? They were probably coming in their pants commanding airships out of their training.

"we ought to lay off the criticism" -- Pinguinite, circa 2010-05-26 22:17:22 ET

buckeroo  posted on  2010-07-12   1:58:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#494. To: wudidiz (#484)

LOL


Name calling is juvenile.

farmfriend  posted on  2010-07-12   1:59:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#495. To: farmfriend (#494)

If loving her is wrong, I don't wanna be right!!


“It has been said, 'time heals all wounds.' I do not agree. The wounds remain. In time, the mind, protecting its sanity, covers them with scar tissue and the pain lessens, but it is never gone.” ~ Rose F. Kennedy

wudidiz  posted on  2010-07-12   2:00:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#496. To: Flintlock (#489)

Buck, are you down to one brain cell?

You're acting like it

Thanks for the one vote of confidence.

"we ought to lay off the criticism" -- Pinguinite, circa 2010-05-26 22:17:22 ET

buckeroo  posted on  2010-07-12   2:00:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#497. To: farmfriend, All (#495)

02:00:00

Oh lookit that.

Don't see that too often.


“It has been said, 'time heals all wounds.' I do not agree. The wounds remain. In time, the mind, protecting its sanity, covers them with scar tissue and the pain lessens, but it is never gone.” ~ Rose F. Kennedy

wudidiz  posted on  2010-07-12   2:01:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#498. To: Turtle (#497)


“It has been said, 'time heals all wounds.' I do not agree. The wounds remain. In time, the mind, protecting its sanity, covers them with scar tissue and the pain lessens, but it is never gone.” ~ Rose F. Kennedy

wudidiz  posted on  2010-07-12   2:03:19 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#499. To: wudidiz (#495)

If loving her is wrong, I don't wanna be right!!

again you make me laugh.


Name calling is juvenile.

farmfriend  posted on  2010-07-12   2:11:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#500. To: wudidiz (#497)

It's a gift. Or should I say something like 200ert.


Name calling is juvenile.

farmfriend  posted on  2010-07-12   2:12:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#501. To: farmfriend, Original_Intent (#500)

500

Wow, look at that.


“It has been said, 'time heals all wounds.' I do not agree. The wounds remain. In time, the mind, protecting its sanity, covers them with scar tissue and the pain lessens, but it is never gone.” ~ Rose F. Kennedy

wudidiz  posted on  2010-07-12   2:14:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  



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