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Title: Why I Don't Have Any Use for Truthers
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Published: Jul 9, 2010
Author: Turtle
Post Date: 2010-07-09 11:35:19 by Turtle
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Views: 33130
Comments: 879
Poster Comment: This woman had sulfuric acid thrown in her face by guess who? Someone engaging in Typical Negro Behavior. They do this out of envy. "I can't get this woman, so nobody can have her." He got life in prison. These are the real problems, not hallucinations abour remote-controlled airplanes and bombs in towers.
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#521. To: wudidiz (#515)
I bet they know what each other's spit tastes like...
Am I gonna get in trouble for posting that? Remember that one gif thread OLD Friend started way back? With the moving snapper? christine pulled it pretty quick.... lol
Everywhere. We have confirmed that the "leadership" of the American Independent Party, the one instrumental in our destruction, has ties to the Republican Party leadership, the destruction of the Reform Party and the Southern Poverty Law Center. We suspect he is ADL too but haven't proven that yet.
Name calling is juvenile.
Gross.
The fundamental problem with YOUR post is that there is an assumption of guilt or conspiracy about the activities to scramble a few jet fighters in the face of an actual terror exposition. All you are doing is showing bumbling and ineptitude from the top down and the bottom up from an attack in America. You have not shown any indication of any planning, execution, logistics, funding and later cover-ups by the many people it would take to within the government to create this issue. Not even one INSIDER witness that should have come forward by now. You fail, dude.
"we ought to lay off the criticism" -- Pinguinite, circa 2010-05-26 22:17:22 ET
You just need to tie the picture into terrorism.
Name calling is juvenile.
You fail, dude. Not true.
As always ... you don't dig deep enough to enough life and the bounty of pleasure.
"we ought to lay off the criticism" -- Pinguinite, circa 2010-05-26 22:17:22 ET
You're gonna get banned and you're gonna get me banned too for starting it.
Not really. Those jets are scrabbled routinely yet on the one day they are needed they are ordered to stand down. Why?
Name calling is juvenile.
You are fucking up this thread... KNOCK IT OFF.
"we ought to lay off the criticism" -- Pinguinite, circa 2010-05-26 22:17:22 ET
LOL no one pays attention to my posts anyway so I doubt it. It might get pulled and probably should be.
Name calling is juvenile.
Maybe you should have. You would have found out from your own link that at 9:30 the fighters took off heading 60 miles due east into the Atlantic Defense Zone, because they were not told the purpose of their flight so they followed standard procedure to repel threats from outside the country. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ One of the major consequences of the 9/11 movement has been to draw enormous amounts of energy and effort away from activism directed to real and ongoing crimes of state, and their institutional background, crimes that are far more serious than blowing up the WTC would be, if there were any credibility to that thesis. That is, I suspect, why the 9/11 movement is treated far more tolerantly by centers of power than is the norm for serious critical and activist work. Noam Chomsky
LOL Shut up.
I can't believe you deleted that art. You're such a pussy..... ;-D
I am simply showing the CLAIMED NORAD response, not even MENTIONING the case of misguided radar blips, war games were in play, and the foreknowledge that morning that jets had already impacted the WTC. Washington was ALREADY on alert, yet some half assed smoke and mirrors show was staged from Langley AFB, rather than the WASHINGTON DC AFB ie, ANDREWS, where they had TWO FUCKING SQUADRONS of alert aircraft ready for immediate launch, yet DIDN'T even though they KNEW a rogue airliner was on it's way from Ohio. And yet we were once able to knock down waves of Soviet bombers at a moments notice. Either they spent every penny in the way of tax dollars up their noses, or they are SERIOUSLY playing us as true suckers, in more ways than one.
You're such a pussy..... LOL yes I am! My husband has a picture of this t-shirt that says I lost my virginity but I still have the box it came in. I need to get a copy.
Name calling is juvenile.
Did you ignore the part that states they launched at 9:24, and their purpose was to intercept Flight 77?
OK .. from your personal perspective that is well researched, you think 911 was caused by the government because of the chemtrails, cropcricles, aliens from outer space or AlGore?
"we ought to lay off the criticism" -- Pinguinite, circa 2010-05-26 22:17:22 ET
OK .. from your personal perspective that is well researched, you think 911 was caused by the government because of the chemtrails, cropcricles, aliens from outer space or AlGore? Could Reach Washington before Pentagon Attack - F-16s have a maximum speed of 1,500 mph at high altitude, or 915 mph at sea level, so the three fighters could plausibly travel the 130 miles from Langley Air Force Base to Washington in just minutes. [Chant, 1987, pp. 404; Associated Press, 6/16/2000; USA Today, 9/16/2001; Washington Post, 9/16/2001 ; US Air Force, 10/2007] Major General Larry Arnold, the commanding general of NORAD’s Continental US Region, will tell the 9/11 Commission, “I think if those aircraft had gotten airborne immediately, if we were operating under something other than peacetime rules, where they could have turned immediately toward Washington, DC, and gone into burner, it is physically possible that they could have gotten over Washington” before 9:37, when the Pentagon is hit. [9/11 Commission, 5/23/2003] Yet according to the 9/11 Commission, the jets are redirected east over the Atlantic Ocean and will be 150 miles from the Pentagon when it is hit (see 9:30 a.m.-9:37 a.m. September 11, 2001). [9/11 Commission, 7/24/2004, pp. 27] Conflicting Times - Some early news reports after 9/11 will say the Langley jets take off at the later time of 9:35 a.m. [Washington Post, 9/12/2001; CNN, 9/14/2001; Washington Post, 9/15/2001; CNN, 9/17/2001] But according to Colonel Alan Scott, the former vice commander of the Continental US NORAD Region, though the jets are airborne at 9:30, the report of this does not come down until 9:35, so this fact may account for the conflicting times. [9/11 Commission, 5/23/2003]
Mere BUMBLING based upon a surprise attack from illegal aliens. IF the government (any branch of service, level of government or payment to a contractor) had some connection you would see it by now; nine years later. In fact, IF the US government had intended to create a war in the ME such as Iraq based upon 911 (which is often suggested) you would have seen MASSIVE AMOUNTS OF WMD FOUND, IDENTIFIED AND SUBMITTED PUBLICKLY to not just the US taxpayers but the whole world. Instead, the scenario in Iraq was ... America fucked upped. You see, America doesn't have the capability to plan and execute these plans. All America can do is perform knee-jerk reactions.
"we ought to lay off the criticism" -- Pinguinite, circa 2010-05-26 22:17:22 ET
They weren't ilegal, they had visas and all that. In fact, it wasn't even the ones they claim, since more than a few of them are still FUCKING ALIVE.
Yet we are still there, aren't we. It's like, so what, we lied, what are you going to do about it....
BTW buck, the war in Iraq is just an afterthought, in that it wasn't the PRIMARY target. Afghanistan was the primary target, and Iraq was just gravy.
Everyone of the 19 terrorists identified by the State Department and the FBI were in the USA based upon fraudulent documents. Not one of them were here legally. There was no research by the US government... NONE, ZERO, ZILCH, NADA.... it was all rubber stamped by sleepy US government workers not executing their responsibilities correctly according to process and procedure.
"we ought to lay off the criticism" -- Pinguinite, circa 2010-05-26 22:17:22 ET
More from your link But, according to author Lynn Spencer, in spite of this, the jets are delayed. As Eckmann is approaching the runway, he calls the control tower for clearance to take off, but the tower controller tells him, 60;Hold for an air traffic delay.61; Air traffic controllers at the FAA57;s Washington Center 60;have not had time to clear airliners After having to wait two minutes, Eckmann complains: 60;We57;re an active air scramble. We need to go now!61; Finally, the tower controller tells him, 60;Roger, Quit flight is cleared for takeoff, 090 for 60,61 meaning the fighters are to fly due east for 60 miles; (see (9:30 a.m.) September 11, 2001). ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ One of the major consequences of the 9/11 movement has been to draw enormous amounts of energy and effort away from activism directed to real and ongoing crimes of state, and their institutional background, crimes that are far more serious than blowing up the WTC would be, if there were any credibility to that thesis. That is, I suspect, why the 9/11 movement is treated far more tolerantly by centers of power than is the norm for serious critical and activist work. Noam Chomsky
As Colin Powell confided ... "if you go in, you own it." Of course, the shithead president booted his ass out.
"we ought to lay off the criticism" -- Pinguinite, circa 2010-05-26 22:17:22 ET
How much of the Mossad/ISI/CIA connection are you aware of? How much contact do you think they have with the military, and/or how many military assets do you think they have at their disposal?
Really? They had passports and visas. Post a link proving what you say.
Gotta keep those drugs flowing.
Name calling is juvenile.
Like I said, they sent them over the sea for a bit, then had them mosy over to DC when it was too late to do anything.
At least a few are still alive and were here for legitimate flight training, since they actually WERE pilots, and are currently flying the skies for Saudi Airlines.
At Least 7 of the 9/11 Hijackers are Still Alive Tracking the 19 Hijackers What are they up to now? At least 9 of them survived 9/11
Even the FBI made reports to the shithead in chief about clandestine terrorists planning a method of sabotage towards America. Your crap confirms the same filtered blah, blah blah. The US government is asleep at the wheel waiting for a command decision from the president through the chain of command. Why? The burden of any president can not be filtered.... and the president can't handle the job.
"we ought to lay off the criticism" -- Pinguinite, circa 2010-05-26 22:17:22 ET
Thank you for carrying the torch for the Truth, FL.
And that natural gas... Yeah I've heard it was all about the pipeline before but when you look at things like Iran Contra etc it is always about the drugs. Nine months after the Taliban cut off the drugs we go in. Now we have bumper crops. Processed in Turkey, another US ally. Distributed by another ally. No it was about the drugs.
Name calling is juvenile.
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"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
#522. To: FormerLurker (#520)
“It has been said, 'time heals all wounds.' I do not agree. The wounds remain. In time, the mind, protecting its sanity, covers them with scar tissue and the pain lessens, but it is never gone.” ~ Rose F. Kennedy
#523. To: wudidiz, buckeroo (#513)
You mean on 4 or where you are too?
#524. To: FormerLurker (#521)
“It has been said, 'time heals all wounds.' I do not agree. The wounds remain. In time, the mind, protecting its sanity, covers them with scar tissue and the pain lessens, but it is never gone.” ~ Rose F. Kennedy
#525. To: FormerLurker (#514)
#526. To: wudidiz (#522)
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#527. To: buckeroo, FormerLurker (#525)
All you are doing is showing bumbling and ineptitude from the top down and the bottom up from an attack in America. You have not shown any indication of any planning, execution, logistics, funding and later cover-ups by the many people it would take to within the government to create this issue. Not even one INSIDER witness that should have come forward by now.
“It has been said, 'time heals all wounds.' I do not agree. The wounds remain. In time, the mind, protecting its sanity, covers them with scar tissue and the pain lessens, but it is never gone.” ~ Rose F. Kennedy
#528. To: wudidiz (#518)
#529. To: farmfriend (#526)
“It has been said, 'time heals all wounds.' I do not agree. The wounds remain. In time, the mind, protecting its sanity, covers them with scar tissue and the pain lessens, but it is never gone.” ~ Rose F. Kennedy
#530. To: buckeroo (#525)
All you are doing is showing bumbling and ineptitude from the top down and the bottom up from an attack in America.
#531. To: wudidiz (#527)
Not true.
#532. To: wudidiz (#529)
You're gonna get banned and you're gonna get me banned too for starting it.
#533. To: FormerLurker, turtle, buckeroo, critter (#517)
Didn't have time to pretty up the HTML for you. Anybody who wants to know what happened can follow the voluminous links.
Finally, the tower controller tells him, 60;Roger, Quit flight is cleared for takeoff, 090 for 60,61; meaning the fighters are to fly due east for 60 miles (see (9:30 a.m.) September 11, 2001).
#534. To: buckeroo (#531)
KNOCK IT OFF
“It has been said, 'time heals all wounds.' I do not agree. The wounds remain. In time, the mind, protecting its sanity, covers them with scar tissue and the pain lessens, but it is never gone.” ~ Rose F. Kennedy
#535. To: farmfriend (#526)
“It has been said, 'time heals all wounds.' I do not agree. The wounds remain. In time, the mind, protecting its sanity, covers them with scar tissue and the pain lessens, but it is never gone.” ~ Rose F. Kennedy
#536. To: buckeroo (#525)
All you are doing is showing bumbling and ineptitude from the top down and the bottom up from an attack in America. You have not shown any indication of any planning, execution, logistics, funding and later cover-ups by the many people it would take to within the government to create this issue. Not even one INSIDER witness that should have come forward by now.
"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
#537. To: wudidiz (#535)
I can't believe you deleted that art.
#538. To: AGAviator (#533)
Finally, the tower controller tells him, 60;Roger, Quit flight is cleared for takeoff, 090 for 60,61; meaning the fighters are to fly due east for 60 miles (see (9:30 a.m.) September 11, 2001).
"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
#539. To: wudidiz (#534)
Shut up.
#540. To: farmfriend (#537)
“It has been said, 'time heals all wounds.' I do not agree. The wounds remain. In time, the mind, protecting its sanity, covers them with scar tissue and the pain lessens, but it is never gone.” ~ Rose F. Kennedy
#541. To: buckeroo, all (#539)
Shut up.
“It has been said, 'time heals all wounds.' I do not agree. The wounds remain. In time, the mind, protecting its sanity, covers them with scar tissue and the pain lessens, but it is never gone.” ~ Rose F. Kennedy
#542. To: AGAviator (#533)
"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
#543. To: FormerLurker (#536)
I am simply showing the CLAIMED NORAD response,
#544. To: buckeroo (#543)
Mere BUMBLING based upon a surprise attack from illegal aliens.
"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
#545. To: buckeroo (#543)
In fact, IF the US government had intended to create a war in the ME such as Iraq based upon 911 (which is often suggested) you would have seen MASSIVE AMOUNTS OF WMD FOUND, IDENTIFIED AND SUBMITTED PUBLICKLY to not just the US taxpayers but the whole world.
"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
#546. To: buckeroo (#543)
"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
#547. To: FormerLurker (#544)
They weren't ilegal, they had visas and all that.
#548. To: FormerLurker, buckeroo, turtle, critter (#542)
According to the 1st Air Force57;s book about 9/11, the three fighters are 60;given highest priority over all other air traffic at Langley Air Force Base61; as they are launching. [Filson, 2003, pp. 63]
#549. To: FormerLurker (#545)
Yet we are still there, aren't we. It's like, so what, we lied, what are you going to do about it....
#550. To: buckeroo (#543)
IF the government (any branch of service, level of government or payment to a contractor) had some connection you would see it by now; nine years later.
"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
#551. To: buckeroo (#547)
Everyone of the 19 terrorists identified by the State Department and the FBI were in the USA based upon fraudulent documents. Not one of them were here legally.
"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
#552. To: FormerLurker (#546)
Afghanistan was the primary target, and Iraq was just gravy.
#553. To: AGAviator (#548)
"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
#554. To: buckeroo (#547)
Everyone of the 19 terrorists identified by the State Department and the FBI were in the USA based upon fraudulent documents. Not one of them were here legally.
"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
#555. To: buckeroo (#547)
"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
#556. To: buckeroo (#547)
"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
#557. To: FormerLurker (#550)
How much of the Mossad/ISI/CIA connection are you aware of?
#558. To: FormerLurker (#556)
“It has been said, 'time heals all wounds.' I do not agree. The wounds remain. In time, the mind, protecting its sanity, covers them with scar tissue and the pain lessens, but it is never gone.” ~ Rose F. Kennedy
#559. To: farmfriend (#552)
Gotta keep those drugs flowing.
"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
#560. To: FormerLurker (#559)
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