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Title: Why I Don't Have Any Use for Truthers
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Published: Jul 9, 2010
Author: Turtle
Post Date: 2010-07-09 11:35:19 by Turtle
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Poster Comment: This woman had sulfuric acid thrown in her face by guess who? Someone engaging in Typical Negro Behavior. They do this out of envy. "I can't get this woman, so nobody can have her." He got life in prison. These are the real problems, not hallucinations abour remote-controlled airplanes and bombs in towers.
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#541. To: buckeroo, all (#539)
OK .. from your personal perspective that is well researched, you think 911 was caused by the government because of the chemtrails, cropcricles, aliens from outer space or AlGore? Could Reach Washington before Pentagon Attack - F-16s have a maximum speed of 1,500 mph at high altitude, or 915 mph at sea level, so the three fighters could plausibly travel the 130 miles from Langley Air Force Base to Washington in just minutes. [Chant, 1987, pp. 404; Associated Press, 6/16/2000; USA Today, 9/16/2001; Washington Post, 9/16/2001 ; US Air Force, 10/2007] Major General Larry Arnold, the commanding general of NORAD’s Continental US Region, will tell the 9/11 Commission, “I think if those aircraft had gotten airborne immediately, if we were operating under something other than peacetime rules, where they could have turned immediately toward Washington, DC, and gone into burner, it is physically possible that they could have gotten over Washington” before 9:37, when the Pentagon is hit. [9/11 Commission, 5/23/2003] Yet according to the 9/11 Commission, the jets are redirected east over the Atlantic Ocean and will be 150 miles from the Pentagon when it is hit (see 9:30 a.m.-9:37 a.m. September 11, 2001). [9/11 Commission, 7/24/2004, pp. 27] Conflicting Times - Some early news reports after 9/11 will say the Langley jets take off at the later time of 9:35 a.m. [Washington Post, 9/12/2001; CNN, 9/14/2001; Washington Post, 9/15/2001; CNN, 9/17/2001] But according to Colonel Alan Scott, the former vice commander of the Continental US NORAD Region, though the jets are airborne at 9:30, the report of this does not come down until 9:35, so this fact may account for the conflicting times. [9/11 Commission, 5/23/2003]
Mere BUMBLING based upon a surprise attack from illegal aliens. IF the government (any branch of service, level of government or payment to a contractor) had some connection you would see it by now; nine years later. In fact, IF the US government had intended to create a war in the ME such as Iraq based upon 911 (which is often suggested) you would have seen MASSIVE AMOUNTS OF WMD FOUND, IDENTIFIED AND SUBMITTED PUBLICKLY to not just the US taxpayers but the whole world. Instead, the scenario in Iraq was ... America fucked upped. You see, America doesn't have the capability to plan and execute these plans. All America can do is perform knee-jerk reactions.
"we ought to lay off the criticism" -- Pinguinite, circa 2010-05-26 22:17:22 ET
They weren't ilegal, they had visas and all that. In fact, it wasn't even the ones they claim, since more than a few of them are still FUCKING ALIVE.
Yet we are still there, aren't we. It's like, so what, we lied, what are you going to do about it....
BTW buck, the war in Iraq is just an afterthought, in that it wasn't the PRIMARY target. Afghanistan was the primary target, and Iraq was just gravy.
Everyone of the 19 terrorists identified by the State Department and the FBI were in the USA based upon fraudulent documents. Not one of them were here legally. There was no research by the US government... NONE, ZERO, ZILCH, NADA.... it was all rubber stamped by sleepy US government workers not executing their responsibilities correctly according to process and procedure.
"we ought to lay off the criticism" -- Pinguinite, circa 2010-05-26 22:17:22 ET
More from your link But, according to author Lynn Spencer, in spite of this, the jets are delayed. As Eckmann is approaching the runway, he calls the control tower for clearance to take off, but the tower controller tells him, 60;Hold for an air traffic delay.61; Air traffic controllers at the FAA57;s Washington Center 60;have not had time to clear airliners After having to wait two minutes, Eckmann complains: 60;We57;re an active air scramble. We need to go now!61; Finally, the tower controller tells him, 60;Roger, Quit flight is cleared for takeoff, 090 for 60,61 meaning the fighters are to fly due east for 60 miles; (see (9:30 a.m.) September 11, 2001). ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ One of the major consequences of the 9/11 movement has been to draw enormous amounts of energy and effort away from activism directed to real and ongoing crimes of state, and their institutional background, crimes that are far more serious than blowing up the WTC would be, if there were any credibility to that thesis. That is, I suspect, why the 9/11 movement is treated far more tolerantly by centers of power than is the norm for serious critical and activist work. Noam Chomsky
As Colin Powell confided ... "if you go in, you own it." Of course, the shithead president booted his ass out.
"we ought to lay off the criticism" -- Pinguinite, circa 2010-05-26 22:17:22 ET
How much of the Mossad/ISI/CIA connection are you aware of? How much contact do you think they have with the military, and/or how many military assets do you think they have at their disposal?
Really? They had passports and visas. Post a link proving what you say.
Gotta keep those drugs flowing.
Name calling is juvenile.
Like I said, they sent them over the sea for a bit, then had them mosy over to DC when it was too late to do anything.
At least a few are still alive and were here for legitimate flight training, since they actually WERE pilots, and are currently flying the skies for Saudi Airlines.
At Least 7 of the 9/11 Hijackers are Still Alive Tracking the 19 Hijackers What are they up to now? At least 9 of them survived 9/11
Even the FBI made reports to the shithead in chief about clandestine terrorists planning a method of sabotage towards America. Your crap confirms the same filtered blah, blah blah. The US government is asleep at the wheel waiting for a command decision from the president through the chain of command. Why? The burden of any president can not be filtered.... and the president can't handle the job.
"we ought to lay off the criticism" -- Pinguinite, circa 2010-05-26 22:17:22 ET
Thank you for carrying the torch for the Truth, FL.
And that natural gas... Yeah I've heard it was all about the pipeline before but when you look at things like Iran Contra etc it is always about the drugs. Nine months after the Taliban cut off the drugs we go in. Now we have bumper crops. Processed in Turkey, another US ally. Distributed by another ally. No it was about the drugs.
Name calling is juvenile.
"we ought to lay off the criticism" -- Pinguinite, circa 2010-05-26 22:17:22 ET
Got any more soft porn to share?
"we ought to lay off the criticism" -- Pinguinite, circa 2010-05-26 22:17:22 ET
Name calling is juvenile.
Thing is, at least 9 of them DIDN'T attack the US, and their identities were stolen. In fact, the supposed ring leader, Mohammed Atta, was training at a US MILITARY INSTALLATION as an officer.
If I post some, will you finally go to sleep?
For a black op the size of 9/11, there has to be MULTIPLE goals, and MULTIPLE HUGE payoffs.
No doubt.
Name calling is juvenile.
1 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/nation/specials/attacked/A38270- 2001Sep15.html Washington Post - 9/16/01 - 2nd Witness Arrested; 25 Held for Questioning Two of 19 suspects named by the FBI, Saeed Alghamdi and Ahmed Alghamdi, have the same names as men listed at a housing facility for foreign military trainees at Pensacola. Two others, Hamza Alghamdi and Ahmed Alnami, have names similar to individuals listed in public records as using the same address inside the base. In addition, a man named Saeed Alghamdi graduated from the Defense Language Institute at Lackland Air Force Base in San Antonio, while men with the same names as two other hijackers, Mohamed Atta and Abdulaziz Alomari, appear as graduates of the U.S. International Officers School at Maxwell Air Force Base, Ala., and the Aerospace Medical School at Brooks Air Force Base in San Antonio, respectively.
Mixed names, even the State Department CANT GET IT RIGHT .. everyone of the terrorists went down... with thousands of innocent people.
"we ought to lay off the criticism" -- Pinguinite, circa 2010-05-26 22:17:22 ET
I want to see your soft-porn here on 4um while you bang some Canadian bacon. Got a pic?
"we ought to lay off the criticism" -- Pinguinite, circa 2010-05-26 22:17:22 ET
Prove that ANY of those "hijackers" actually were on board those planes. I'd really like to see you pin the blame on the ones that are still alive and kicking.
You're a sick, sick man buckeroo.
Kinda tuff, if you don't mind the expression. I wasn't either involved with US operations to understand the issue(s) OR the illegal alien terrorists. I will say this, however: I watched those US Passenger Jets in the morning here on the West Coast drive into the towers; millions of Americans saw that same set of videos. You can't buy a real American to die like that for the USA.
"we ought to lay off the criticism" -- Pinguinite, circa 2010-05-26 22:17:22 ET
You can't buy a real American to die like that for the USA. Not hard to retrofit the fumigation tanks (look up pesticides in aircraft) with some nerve gas, and remote control the aircraft afterwards...
Ever watch the video of Bush saying he saw the first jet hit the tower even though he was supposedly reading books to children when he "heard" about the first jet? Ever see the news footage of the pods under the jet wings shooting stuff into the tower? Then of course there are the news reports that tower 7 fell before it did.
Name calling is juvenile.
I knew the chemtrail stuff was ultimately going to infest this thread... just ask wud.
"we ought to lay off the criticism" -- Pinguinite, circa 2010-05-26 22:17:22 ET
Ever see the news footage of the pods under the jet wings shooting stuff into the tower? Then of course there are the news reports that tower 7 fell before it did. Are you saying that perhaps there was a..... conspiracy involved? You radical, you...
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“It has been said, 'time heals all wounds.' I do not agree. The wounds remain. In time, the mind, protecting its sanity, covers them with scar tissue and the pain lessens, but it is never gone.” ~ Rose F. Kennedy
#542. To: AGAviator (#533)
"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
#543. To: FormerLurker (#536)
I am simply showing the CLAIMED NORAD response,
#544. To: buckeroo (#543)
Mere BUMBLING based upon a surprise attack from illegal aliens.
"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
#545. To: buckeroo (#543)
In fact, IF the US government had intended to create a war in the ME such as Iraq based upon 911 (which is often suggested) you would have seen MASSIVE AMOUNTS OF WMD FOUND, IDENTIFIED AND SUBMITTED PUBLICKLY to not just the US taxpayers but the whole world.
"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
#546. To: buckeroo (#543)
"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
#547. To: FormerLurker (#544)
They weren't ilegal, they had visas and all that.
#548. To: FormerLurker, buckeroo, turtle, critter (#542)
According to the 1st Air Force57;s book about 9/11, the three fighters are 60;given highest priority over all other air traffic at Langley Air Force Base61; as they are launching. [Filson, 2003, pp. 63]
#549. To: FormerLurker (#545)
Yet we are still there, aren't we. It's like, so what, we lied, what are you going to do about it....
#550. To: buckeroo (#543)
IF the government (any branch of service, level of government or payment to a contractor) had some connection you would see it by now; nine years later.
"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
#551. To: buckeroo (#547)
Everyone of the 19 terrorists identified by the State Department and the FBI were in the USA based upon fraudulent documents. Not one of them were here legally.
"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
#552. To: FormerLurker (#546)
Afghanistan was the primary target, and Iraq was just gravy.
#553. To: AGAviator (#548)
"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
#554. To: buckeroo (#547)
Everyone of the 19 terrorists identified by the State Department and the FBI were in the USA based upon fraudulent documents. Not one of them were here legally.
"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
#555. To: buckeroo (#547)
"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
#556. To: buckeroo (#547)
"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
#557. To: FormerLurker (#550)
How much of the Mossad/ISI/CIA connection are you aware of?
#558. To: FormerLurker (#556)
“It has been said, 'time heals all wounds.' I do not agree. The wounds remain. In time, the mind, protecting its sanity, covers them with scar tissue and the pain lessens, but it is never gone.” ~ Rose F. Kennedy
#559. To: farmfriend (#552)
Gotta keep those drugs flowing.
"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
#560. To: FormerLurker (#559)
#561. To: FormerLurker (#554)
At least a few are still alive
Tell them FUCK YOU. They fucked America going after their imaginary virgins for ALLAH.
#562. To: wudidiz (#558)
Thank you for carrying the torch for the Truth, FL.
#563. To: buckeroo, wudidiz (#562)
#564. To: buckeroo (#561)
Tell them FUCK YOU. They fucked America going after their imaginary virgins for ALLAH.
"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
#565. To: buckeroo (#562)
“It has been said, 'time heals all wounds.' I do not agree. The wounds remain. In time, the mind, protecting its sanity, covers them with scar tissue and the pain lessens, but it is never gone.” ~ Rose F. Kennedy
#566. To: farmfriend (#560)
Yeah I've heard it was all about the pipeline before but when you look at things like Iran Contra etc it is always about the drugs.
"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
#567. To: FormerLurker (#566)
there has to be MULTIPLE goals, and MULTIPLE HUGE payoffs.
#568. To: buckeroo (#561)
"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
#569. To: FormerLurker (#564)
#570. To: wudidiz (#565)
If I post some
#571. To: buckeroo (#569)
Mixed names, even the State Department CANT GET IT RIGHT .. everyone of the terrorists went down... with thousands of innocent people.
"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
#572. To: buckeroo (#570)
I want to see your soft-porn here on 4um while you bang some Canadian bacon. Got a pic?
“It has been said, 'time heals all wounds.' I do not agree. The wounds remain. In time, the mind, protecting its sanity, covers them with scar tissue and the pain lessens, but it is never gone.” ~ Rose F. Kennedy
#573. To: buckeroo (#569)
"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
#574. To: FormerLurker (#571)
Prove that ANY of those "hijackers" actually were on board those planes.
#575. To: buckeroo (#574)
I will say this, however: I watched those US Passenger Jets in the morning here on the West Coast drive into the towers; millions of Americans saw that same set of videos.
"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
#576. To: buckeroo, FormerLurker (#574)
I will say this, however: I watched those US Passenger Jets in the morning here on the West Coast drive into the towers; millions of Americans saw that same set of videos.
#577. To: FormerLurker (#575)
Not hard to retrofit the fumigation tanks (look up pesticides in aircraft) with some nerve gas, and remote control the aircraft afterwards...
#578. To: buckeroo (#574)
"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
#579. To: farmfriend, buckeroo, FormerLurker (#576)
Ever watch the video of Bush saying he saw the first jet hit the tower even though he was supposedly reading books to children when he "heard" about the first jet?
“It has been said, 'time heals all wounds.' I do not agree. The wounds remain. In time, the mind, protecting its sanity, covers them with scar tissue and the pain lessens, but it is never gone.” ~ Rose F. Kennedy
#580. To: buckeroo (#577)
"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
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