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Title: Hypothetical. Palin Wins The Republican Nomination. Do you vote for her
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Published: Jul 10, 2010
Author: A K A Stone
Post Date: 2010-07-10 20:40:24 by A K A Stone
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Comments: 121

Ok it is 2012. You aren't happy with Obama. Palin has won the republican nomination for president. It is election day. You are registered to vote. Do you pull the lever for Palin. Why or why not.

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#25. To: A K A Stone (#0)

No, because a pres Palin will be no different from Obama.

Pinguinite  posted on  2010-07-10   22:28:33 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

No different? Come on you can't be serious.

A K A Stone  posted on  2010-07-11   0:08:02 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

I am serious.

What is the difference between Obama and Bush?

I'll grant you Bush wouldn't have pushed through the health care disaster bill, but other than that...

And I'll guarantee you that under a pres Palin, the health care bill won't be repealed. That's not how it works. Dems always continue whatever the R's started, and the R's return the favor. Look at the Iraq war, for example.

I remember when Bill Clinton declared "The era of big government is over". That was in 1994 after the R's retook control of the House and Senate.

And the gov has done nothing but swell since then.

No, Stone, Palin is not the remedy for the very sick country of the USA. If there's any medicine out there, Ron Paul is it.

Pinguinite  posted on  2010-07-11   10:35:22 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

No, Stone, Palin is not the remedy for the very sick country of the USA. If there's any medicine out there, Ron Paul is it.

My hypothetical was Palin wins the nomination. If she wins she would be the best chance for a tilt in the right direction.

I have no delusion that she will do everything right or that I wouldn't be disappointed with some of what she does. But there are so many things she is better then Obama on.

Obama is better then her or any previous president on NOTHING!

A K A Stone  posted on  2010-07-11   11:39:05 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

My hypothetical was Palin wins the nomination. If she wins she would be the best chance for a tilt in the right direction.

"Best chance"?

And if you had to bet on whether a pig or a cow would fly first, you might say the pig has the best chance since it's lighter.

You have to recognize that the system is very disfunctional. Any positive, meaningful change is going to require something severely different, and that's not Palin. In fact, what the country might need most of all is something that makes it clear to the masses that the system IS busted, and perpetually giving people hope of positive change is one way to delay the reckoning that must ultimately come. In that way, the more "hopeful" a candidate may appear, the worse it could be in the long run.

And the long run is what you should think about. As one libertarian talk show host once said, we should hope for the worst possible candidate to get elected to bring about the inevitable fall as soon as possible, so we can restart with people wiser for the experience.

Pinguinite  posted on  2010-07-11   12:39:13 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

we should hope for the worst possible candidate to get elected to bring about the inevitable fall as soon as possible, so we can restart with people wiser for the experience.

That is more hope.... and pie in the sky thinking. There is only one way to fix the situations that are presented today: restore the US Constitution by eliminating the many socialist bureaucratic organizations and revamp the USC while mandating Congress to ensure a balanced budget based on fact and not seat of the pants projections.

[edit: And install a Constitutional Amendment that requires each voter to prove capability (voter read/write minimum requirements) of performing a vote at the ballot]

buckeroo  posted on  2010-07-11   12:48:44 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

That is more hope.... and pie in the sky thinking. There is only one way to fix the situations that are presented today: restore the US Constitution by eliminating the many socialist bureaucratic organizations and revamp the USC while mandating Congress to ensure a balanced budget based on fact and not seat of the pants projections.

I pretty much agree with you Buck. I will add that you are usually right on most issues. But I would add one thing. Limit congresses ability to spend to the term they are elected to. Maybe their laws should also automatically expire when their terms end.

A K A Stone  posted on  2010-07-11   12:50:53 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

See my edit in the same post.

buckeroo  posted on  2010-07-11   12:54:50 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

#75. To: buckeroo (#74)

Your add at the bottom about a test. I'm not sure to be honest. But it seems reasonable that you should have to be able to understand the ballot.

Just so it doesn't turn into a "poll tax" that is meant to keep good people from voting.

A K A Stone  posted on  2010-07-11 12:58:12 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

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