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Title: Hypothetical. Palin Wins The Republican Nomination. Do you vote for her
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Published: Jul 10, 2010
Author: A K A Stone
Post Date: 2010-07-10 20:40:24 by A K A Stone
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Ok it is 2012. You aren't happy with Obama. Palin has won the republican nomination for president. It is election day. You are registered to vote. Do you pull the lever for Palin. Why or why not.
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#1. To: JethroTull, christine, flintlock, ricky j (#0)
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No. Voting anyone into office is legitimizing this government. There will be 130 million voters doing their "patriotic duty", marching to the polls. There are over 80 million that do not vote.
Ok 80 million don't vote. What did they accomplish?
Would you vote for Palin if William Kristol was the Dem nominee?
"The people in power will not disappear voluntarily, giving flowers to the cops just isn't going to work. This thinking is fostered by the establishment; they like nothing better than love and nonviolence. The only way I like to see cops given flowers is in a flower pot from a high window.” - William S Burroughs
Why vote? We'll only have about a month left to live.
Click for Privacy and Preparedness files Live free or Yes. I despise Kristol. Even if he says he likes Palin.
can I take that claim to the bank?
What do those who do vote accomplish? They get a wonderful "choice" between scumsucker A or scumsucker B, both of whom are guaranteed to violate their oath of office about the same minute their butt hits the chair in the big house if not sooner. They will be choosing between owned and controlled puppets if we can be guided at all by what has happened up until now. Going to the polls, absent an actual American to vote for, is a waste of time and resources.
Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end. He (Gordon Duff) also implies that forcibly removing Obama, a Constitution-hating, on-the-down-low, crackhead Communist, is an attack on America, Mom, and apple pie. I swear these military people are worse than useless. Just look around at the condition of the country and tell me if they have fulfilled their oaths to protect the nation from all enemies foreign and domestic. U.S. Constitution - Article IV, Section 4: NO BORDERS + NO LAWS = NO COUNTRY
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U.S. Constitution - Article IV, Section 4: NO BORDERS + NO LAWS = NO COUNTRY
As a rule I don't vote for rapture monkeys but I would vote for her on the condition that I could burn you at the stake in a sacrifice to ODIN!!! on election day. deal?
WWGPD? - (What Would General Pinochet Do?)
Not just no, but HELL NO! She's an open borders globalist, liberal, anti-American, POS. In order for this country to have a shot at survival, peaceful like, the GOP must die. The sooner everyone realizes that they're losers, the sooner we have a shot at saving America. It's a long shot... the real answer is, watering the tree of liberty with the blood of patriots and tyrants. Jefferson had it figured out a couple of centuries ago.
No. I refuse to vote for a Zionist or a member of the CFR, Bilderbergers or Skull and Bones.
The Truth of 911 Shall Set You Free From The Lie
not a chance as the RNCFR and the DNCFR play for the same team and the only way she'd make the pratt house list of sanctioned candidates is if they fully controlled her which would make a vote for her nothing more than a vote for mammyjammyobammy.
That isn't true.
Are you kidding us? She's for israel, not US. What a dopey question here.
What a dopey question here. Yep.
Some questions don't take an entire thesis to answer. Good grief.
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The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one.
So is the current infestation. The difference a president makes is in domestic policy, not foreign policy. I'd swap out *anyone* in place of the Kenyan and Biden the Zionist (then pray for the JFK assassination team to come out of retirement)
but, but, she is the queen of the tundra, the master of the mooses, the conqueror of salmon, madam mukluk even.
It's entirely true. Which term do you object to? Look at the O'Reily clip on your site, at 3:30 she shills for AMNESTY! Letting illegal alien invaders stay, thus encouraging a new wave of the same. That's anti-American to the extreme. "Country First" must mean Mexico. Or Panama, China, Israel? It sure as hell ain't America!
No. I would vote the same way I have since 1988 - third party, either Libertarian or Constitution.
"The Central Intelligence Agency owns everyone of any significance in the major media." ~ William Colby, Director, CIA 1973–1976 Nothing in the State, everything outside the State, everything against the State - Jan Lester, Escape From Leviathan "When plunder becomes a way of life for a group of men living together in society, they create for themselves in the course of time a legal system that authorizes it and a moral code that justifies it." - Frederic Bastiat Good order results spontaneously when things are let alone. - Zhuangzi
No, because a pres Palin will be no different from Obama.
Who has been no different from baby Bush. Hmmm. I'm detecting a pattern here.
"The Central Intelligence Agency owns everyone of any significance in the major media." ~ William Colby, Director, CIA 1973–1976 Nothing in the State, everything outside the State, everything against the State - Jan Lester, Escape From Leviathan "When plunder becomes a way of life for a group of men living together in society, they create for themselves in the course of time a legal system that authorizes it and a moral code that justifies it." - Frederic Bastiat Good order results spontaneously when things are let alone. - Zhuangzi
Read it and weep, 3:30 AMNESTY!
I would still like to go hunting bare with Sarah. What a way to go.
Very good. She cuts a much finer picture than Michelle, that's for certain.
Good heavens, what an error on my part, I was THINKING BEAR HUNTING, yes I was, pay no heed to Lod. He would lie about this. hhehehehehe I must edit my post right away.
What a way to go. Yes. Once we strip politics away, we can get down to the meat of the matter.
Is there a translation there somewhere????? One negative about this 4um is the propensity of so many posters to display a dislike for the fairer sex. Even Hillary at times does rouse an interest. I do however draw the line at Kagan and Thomas, they should be arrested and jailed for being so ugly they insult the tender gender. I will edit my Palin post anytime soon.
Huh? I find nothing but the most healthy horn-dog interest in the opposite sex here. Within certain parameters, of course. (No wookies, shrills, helens, et al.)
No. Israeli firster, doesn't know the meaning of a balanced budget, warmonger, all for amnesty, her proximity to Russia doesn't equate to foreign policy experience, she's a quitter, she left Alaska in massive debt, questionable ethics, hypocrite...........I could go on and on, but this quote from Sarah speaks volumes: "Perhaps so." --Sarah Palin, when asked if we may need to go to war with Russia because of the Georgia crisis, ABC News interview, Sept. 11, 2008
"The conscious and intelligent manipulation of the organized habits and opinions of the masses is an important element in democratic society. Those who manipulate this unseen mechanism of society constitute an invisible government which is the true ruling power of our country. ... We are governed, our minds are molded, our tastes formed, our ideas suggested, largely by men we have never heard of." Edward Bernays, Father of Public Relations
Excellent take-down of St.Sarah. The fealty to israel is # 1 with me, and everything else you so well enumerated is just more lead on the sinker for her.
How can so many Americans look at Sarah and even think or care about politics? Where have the red blooded American boys gone? When you get olde enuff that they put a bib on you before dinner, you will understand. hehehehehehe
Thanks Loddy!! : ) So many reasons why Sarah isn't worthy of consideration for POTUS.
"The conscious and intelligent manipulation of the organized habits and opinions of the masses is an important element in democratic society. Those who manipulate this unseen mechanism of society constitute an invisible government which is the true ruling power of our country. ... We are governed, our minds are molded, our tastes formed, our ideas suggested, largely by men we have never heard of." Edward Bernays, Father of Public Relations
No different? Come on you can't be serious.
Looks like there are a bunch of folks here that are willing to stick with Obama. I don't get it Jethro. They might as well be voting for him and stop complaining about him if they aren't willing to vote him out.
If you're pushing that LOSER Palin, you're the one shilling for hObama. Globalist neo-cons are so 2004!
You can bump your gums all day long amigo but neither you nor the party you are here shilling for have any credibility. Your party lost all credibility first by turning their back on their entire party platform, then by spending the entire time they had complete control of the government stabbing small government conservatives in the back and lastly by running one of the top liberals in the entire Republican party as a candidate for president. A man who, with the help of the Republicans and Democrats as a whole, sold out American POW's in Vietnam. Now you are here shilling for a woman whose character is so low that she actually agreed to run as the running mate of a known liberal and traitor. A woman who not only came out and endorsed everything about John McCain during the presidential campaign but who to this day calls him a great man and endorses him and his policies/politics. A woman who heartily embraces the American warfare state and indeed wants to grow it even more, while at the same time advocating amnesty for illegal aliens. A woman for all intent and purposes would give us another George Bush-type administration. I will be voting Obama out. I will be voting him out by voting for a third party candidate. I will not vote for a person whose small government claims are questionable at best or a party whose past actions have shown them to be liars and charlatans. Especially when the overwhelming majority of those in charge of the Republican party were the very same ones who stabbed conservatives in the back for so long. You and the rest of your faux conservative ilk are part of the problem. You are no better than the Democrats you pretend to hate. You bitch moan and groan and cry your crocodile tears about big government and then turn around and reward the very same people giving you big government with your vote. As I said, you have zero credibility with anyone except other Republican sycophants.
"The Central Intelligence Agency owns everyone of any significance in the major media." ~ William Colby, Director, CIA 1973–1976 Nothing in the State, everything outside the State, everything against the State - Jan Lester, Escape From Leviathan "When plunder becomes a way of life for a group of men living together in society, they create for themselves in the course of time a legal system that authorizes it and a moral code that justifies it." - Frederic Bastiat Good order results spontaneously when things are let alone. - Zhuangzi
As I said, you have zero credibility with anyone except other Republican sycophants. Does that apply to Jethro Tull too? He has also seen the light that voting third party (when they have no chance) is the same as a vote for Obama. You bitch about Obama but wont vote against him. yap yap yap. That is all you do.
I've been down the 3rd party path for 20 years. It's brought me to this point in history where a Marxist, black nationalist is in power. I haven't read one thing in terms of foreign policy where they're different, so that's a draw. I do believe domestically *I* will be better off (taxes, guns, speech). Since either the Kenyan or his opponent will become president in '12 (I'm not at all certain Palin will be his opponent, and it's a joke to think a 3rd party candidate will ever be selected) I'll choose the less damaging in hopes of delaying the destruction of America. As I said previously this represents a fundamental change in how I felt before, but Obama is far more dangerous to whites & American Nationals than his previous counterparts.
I personally hope Rand Paul runs. I think Ron Paul is viewed as to old by most Americans.
uh huh. I know daz rat!
Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end. He (Gordon Duff) also implies that forcibly removing Obama, a Constitution-hating, on-the-down-low, crackhead Communist, is an attack on America, Mom, and apple pie. I swear these military people are worse than useless. Just look around at the condition of the country and tell me if they have fulfilled their oaths to protect the nation from all enemies foreign and domestic. James... Sometimes my spelling is very bad. hehehehehe
I understand. It can happen when we are thinking about other things. Not that anyone could blame you.
Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end. He (Gordon Duff) also implies that forcibly removing Obama, a Constitution-hating, on-the-down-low, crackhead Communist, is an attack on America, Mom, and apple pie. I swear these military people are worse than useless. Just look around at the condition of the country and tell me if they have fulfilled their oaths to protect the nation from all enemies foreign and domestic. I think it's too soon for Rand, and he doesn't pass the Political Purity test for some, but his nomination - and Angle in Nevada - are signaling a changing landscape. Turning this around politically is like trying to do figure eights with an aircraft carrier. It's going to be a slow slog ahead, and I'm not sure we can back off from the edge of the cliff we're on, but I haven't a better idea as to how to remove this pack of racists & radicals from the White House. I just spent a few days in NJ and judging from the noise the hissing unions are emitting and their counter parts in the MSM, Gov Christie must be doing something right. As you recall the choice was between him, Corzine or a smorgasbord of 3rd party folk who got nowhere (as per usual). Christie was the best choice for those in the Garden State IMO. PS: Far more dangerous than Obama are the people that voted & support Him. Long after He's gone, they will remain. Show them no quarter.
Zero credibility just like your party.
"The Central Intelligence Agency owns everyone of any significance in the major media." ~ William Colby, Director, CIA 1973–1976 Nothing in the State, everything outside the State, everything against the State - Jan Lester, Escape From Leviathan "When plunder becomes a way of life for a group of men living together in society, they create for themselves in the course of time a legal system that authorizes it and a moral code that justifies it." - Frederic Bastiat Good order results spontaneously when things are let alone. - Zhuangzi
I am serious. What is the difference between Obama and Bush? I'll grant you Bush wouldn't have pushed through the health care disaster bill, but other than that... And I'll guarantee you that under a pres Palin, the health care bill won't be repealed. That's not how it works. Dems always continue whatever the R's started, and the R's return the favor. Look at the Iraq war, for example. I remember when Bill Clinton declared "The era of big government is over". That was in 1994 after the R's retook control of the House and Senate. And the gov has done nothing but swell since then. No, Stone, Palin is not the remedy for the very sick country of the USA. If there's any medicine out there, Ron Paul is it.
Obama is going to allow the Bush tax decreases to expire & I'm certain there would be no Eric Holder in a position of power to allow the New Black Panther Party to intimidate voters and openly espouse their anti-white racism with impunity. So on the scale of suck, some suck harder than others & that's the deal. We can bitch, moan, and vote for statistically insignificant people, but the truth be known, come Nov. '12, this nation will either reinstall O or his probably less odorous R counterpart.
Hillary aint playing the part of second banana for nothing. Obumski was created for a purpose.
Trials and rope!
Only the slope of the downhill grade will change. And you still don't have any brakes. They are nothing but a long stream of odorous smoke behind you. You're just along for the ride. If that's "the deal", count me out. AFA chimp and Holder goes, imo they are doing us a big favor. He and chimp are showing the white world what they are all about. The smart ones know what they are about. The dumb ones will find out only after it is too late, because they don't believe us. White guilt DEMANDS that they not rock the boat, and not just that but also aid in their own destruction. Sucks to be them. They think it's all about mere skin color. It's not. It has nothing to do with skin color. It has everything to do with their actions. THe sooner the destruction comes the sooner we can rebuild. And the destruction is imo inevitable. It's just a matter of time. No one can save it. .
Click for Privacy and Preparedness files Live free or My hypothetical was Palin wins the nomination. If she wins she would be the best chance for a tilt in the right direction. I have no delusion that she will do everything right or that I wouldn't be disappointed with some of what she does. But there are so many things she is better then Obama on. Obama is better then her or any previous president on NOTHING!
If Ron Paul wins the nomination. I wouldn't hesitate to vote for him.
You are delusional aren't ya? She's still one of them and an Isral Firster. There has to be millions who believe the same crap that you do. It will take blood to take back this country and kicking the jews out and back to Israhell.
You'd vote for Obama if he won the nomination. Not only would you vote for him, you would be here telling us how much better he is than the Democrat he's running against. You're a partisan hack. It's what you do.
"The Central Intelligence Agency owns everyone of any significance in the major media." ~ William Colby, Director, CIA 1973–1976 Nothing in the State, everything outside the State, everything against the State - Jan Lester, Escape From Leviathan "When plunder becomes a way of life for a group of men living together in society, they create for themselves in the course of time a legal system that authorizes it and a moral code that justifies it." - Frederic Bastiat Good order results spontaneously when things are let alone. - Zhuangzi
Only for those who believe that World War 3 is the "right" direction........
"The conscious and intelligent manipulation of the organized habits and opinions of the masses is an important element in democratic society. Those who manipulate this unseen mechanism of society constitute an invisible government which is the true ruling power of our country. ... We are governed, our minds are molded, our tastes formed, our ideas suggested, largely by men we have never heard of." Edward Bernays, Father of Public Relations
There is no such thing as an israeli firster. Saying she is is ridiculous. You are a pedophile firster. You support the worshippers of a pedhophile Ok pedophile firster.
I don't want or support the concept of a ww3. Palin is superior to Obama on a whole host of issues. Taxes, she isn't for murdering babies in the womb, she isn't pushing amnesty and uspports the Arizona law. She isn't a pedophile worshipper like Obama is. And here is a really good reason. You don't support her and you are not a good example of what an American should be. Are there better candidates out there. Sure there always are and will be. But the fact is it will be Obama or the Republican nominee. Now if the R's nominated someone like Specter then I would share your sentiments.
All your statement does is confirm that you are a liar, you make stuff up, and you don't know what you are talking about. It didn't need confirmed but thanks just the same. Is Tull a party hack? I don't think he is.
"Best chance"? And if you had to bet on whether a pig or a cow would fly first, you might say the pig has the best chance since it's lighter. You have to recognize that the system is very disfunctional. Any positive, meaningful change is going to require something severely different, and that's not Palin. In fact, what the country might need most of all is something that makes it clear to the masses that the system IS busted, and perpetually giving people hope of positive change is one way to delay the reckoning that must ultimately come. In that way, the more "hopeful" a candidate may appear, the worse it could be in the long run. And the long run is what you should think about. As one libertarian talk show host once said, we should hope for the worst possible candidate to get elected to bring about the inevitable fall as soon as possible, so we can restart with people wiser for the experience.
They did nominate someone like Specter - John McCain. And his loyal sidekick was Sarah Palin. Did you vote for them?
"The Central Intelligence Agency owns everyone of any significance in the major media." ~ William Colby, Director, CIA 1973–1976 Nothing in the State, everything outside the State, everything against the State - Jan Lester, Escape From Leviathan "When plunder becomes a way of life for a group of men living together in society, they create for themselves in the course of time a legal system that authorizes it and a moral code that justifies it." - Frederic Bastiat Good order results spontaneously when things are let alone. - Zhuangzi
That is what happened in 2008. Now is the time to pick up the pieces and rebuild. Also the supreme court. I didn't approve of Bushes nominees at the time. But in hindsight they turned out to be better then the dykes Owebama is offering up. Palins picks to the court would be better. Another reason is that a President becomes less accountable in a second term (no election to worry about) so they become more entrenched in their positions. You wouldn't have that problem with Palin as she would want to be reelected. We know for a fact that Obama sucks the big one. Palin or for that matter most any Republican nominee will have a chance to be better. And on domestic issues it isn't even close.
Liar? Yeah right. You would be here shilling for the Republican candidate regardless of who is running. It's what you hacks do and have been doing online every single election cycle since the days of the BBS. Every single election cycle it's exactly the same. You flatter yourself by thinking you are doing anything original. LOL!
"The Central Intelligence Agency owns everyone of any significance in the major media." ~ William Colby, Director, CIA 1973–1976 Nothing in the State, everything outside the State, everything against the State - Jan Lester, Escape From Leviathan "When plunder becomes a way of life for a group of men living together in society, they create for themselves in the course of time a legal system that authorizes it and a moral code that justifies it." - Frederic Bastiat Good order results spontaneously when things are let alone. - Zhuangzi
Did you vote for them? Yeah I did. But McCain isn't as liberal as Specter. I don' like McCain and never did. My hope was to stop Obama and maybe Palin would turn out to be good if McCain died. If McCain had won we would have no healthcare bill. Cap and tax would be gone. We wouldn't have two know nothing dykes on the supreme court. We wouldn't have a pedophile worshipper in the white house.
You are a liar. You said I would support Obama. That is a made up lie. You are a confirmed deceiver and liar. No ifs ands or butts.
That is more hope.... and pie in the sky thinking. There is only one way to fix the situations that are presented today: restore the US Constitution by eliminating the many socialist bureaucratic organizations and revamp the USC while mandating Congress to ensure a balanced budget based on fact and not seat of the pants projections. [edit: And install a Constitutional Amendment that requires each voter to prove capability (voter read/write minimum requirements) of performing a vote at the ballot]
"we ought to lay off the criticism" -- Pinguinite, circa 2010-05-26 22:17:22 ET
Like I said you are a confirmed liar and you make stuff up. I voted Perot in 92 and Peroutka in 2004. Another confirmation (not that it is needed) that you lie and make stuff up.
LOL!!!!!! If supporting Palin is what it takes to be a "good example of what an American should be" then color me a bad example. I nominate you for the dumbest comment of the day award. Ping one and all to vote for AKA Stupid Comment of the Day. : )
"The conscious and intelligent manipulation of the organized habits and opinions of the masses is an important element in democratic society. Those who manipulate this unseen mechanism of society constitute an invisible government which is the true ruling power of our country. ... We are governed, our minds are molded, our tastes formed, our ideas suggested, largely by men we have never heard of." Edward Bernays, Father of Public Relations
I pretty much agree with you Buck. I will add that you are usually right on most issues. But I would add one thing. Limit congresses ability to spend to the term they are elected to. Maybe their laws should also automatically expire when their terms end.
I nominate you for the dumbest comment of the day award. Ping one and all to vote for AKA Stupid Comment of the Day. : ) I never said that supporting Palin is good example of what an American should be. Good Americans can support other worthy candidates. What I did say is that YOU ARE NOT a good example of what it is to be and American. That you oppose Palin makes her look better.
See my edit in the same post.
"we ought to lay off the criticism" -- Pinguinite, circa 2010-05-26 22:17:22 ET
Your add at the bottom about a test. I'm not sure to be honest. But it seems reasonable that you should have to be able to understand the ballot. Just so it doesn't turn into a "poll tax" that is meant to keep good people from voting.
And Specter isn't as liberal as Obama, so you would be here saying the same things that you are saying now. Be honest with yourself even if you won't be with anyone else. If McCain had won we would have no healthcare bill. Cap and tax would be gone. We wouldn't have two know nothing dykes on the supreme court. We wouldn't have a pedophile worshipper in the white house. Whether or not we would have had a health care bill is debatable. It was the Republicans who gave us free meds for geezers. Neither McCain nor anyone else in the leadership of the Republican Party are leaders. They bend with the polls and the media would have continued beating the government health care drum by showing continuous sad sack stories. I beli9eve they would have given us some sort of government health care. I agree that we likely would not have a cap and trade bill, but it hasn't passed yet. And in lieu of cap and trade we would have had more security state bills passed. Being a liberal, McCain's USSC picks would have been as bad as Obama's. I don't know what you are talking about as it pertains to pedophile worshiping, so I cannot comment.
"The Central Intelligence Agency owns everyone of any significance in the major media." ~ William Colby, Director, CIA 1973–1976 Nothing in the State, everything outside the State, everything against the State - Jan Lester, Escape From Leviathan "When plunder becomes a way of life for a group of men living together in society, they create for themselves in the course of time a legal system that authorizes it and a moral code that justifies it." - Frederic Bastiat Good order results spontaneously when things are let alone. - Zhuangzi
Look your last comments have some merit. Just don't paint me as someone would EVER under any circumstances support Obama.
Nope. If Obama was running as a Republican, you would be here shilling for him. That's a fact. Replace Obama's name everywhere you have used Palin and that's what you would be saying about Obama.
"The Central Intelligence Agency owns everyone of any significance in the major media." ~ William Colby, Director, CIA 1973–1976 Nothing in the State, everything outside the State, everything against the State - Jan Lester, Escape From Leviathan "When plunder becomes a way of life for a group of men living together in society, they create for themselves in the course of time a legal system that authorizes it and a moral code that justifies it." - Frederic Bastiat Good order results spontaneously when things are let alone. - Zhuangzi
Say you are sorry and I will forgive your error.
Oh, pull-ease. Let me tell you, things need to get a LOT worse before people wise up. As an example, the "great" depression in the 30's didn't do it. In fact it made the ignorant sheeple make the government that was ultimately responsible for it bigger! Maybe with the internet sharing info, that wouldn't happen again, but things need to get really bad first. Sorry, but Obama isn't bad enough. At least not that anyone can see yet. Maybe after the new tax reporting laws kick in making just about every $600 transaction reportable.
I'm sorry but I disagree. You have it set in your mind that under no circumstances can you allow a Democrat to either get elected or reelected. No matter who the Republican Party ran as president, even Obama, you would have it in your mind that he would be better than the Democrat nominee. And chances are he would be better even though both are bad for the country.
"The Central Intelligence Agency owns everyone of any significance in the major media." ~ William Colby, Director, CIA 1973–1976 Nothing in the State, everything outside the State, everything against the State - Jan Lester, Escape From Leviathan "When plunder becomes a way of life for a group of men living together in society, they create for themselves in the course of time a legal system that authorizes it and a moral code that justifies it." - Frederic Bastiat Good order results spontaneously when things are let alone. - Zhuangzi
I'm not going to argue with you. I respect you and your views seem to be thought out most or all of the time. I'm just saying that Palin would be an improvement over Obama. No doubt in my mind at all.
How can you disagree with my mind. My mind is mine not yours. I was prepared to let Kerry beat Bush when I voted Peroutaka. So your theory is incorrect.
I am sorry if I upset you but I am telling you how I see it. It's the same every election cycle. No matter how bad (Dole)or to the left (Bush, McCain) the Republican nominee is, it always comes down to "we have to vote for the Republican because the Democrat is worse."
"The Central Intelligence Agency owns everyone of any significance in the major media." ~ William Colby, Director, CIA 1973–1976 Nothing in the State, everything outside the State, everything against the State - Jan Lester, Escape From Leviathan "When plunder becomes a way of life for a group of men living together in society, they create for themselves in the course of time a legal system that authorizes it and a moral code that justifies it." - Frederic Bastiat Good order results spontaneously when things are let alone. - Zhuangzi
If that is the case then I withdraw my statement about you and only you, not my generalized theory of the Republican faithful.
"The Central Intelligence Agency owns everyone of any significance in the major media." ~ William Colby, Director, CIA 1973–1976 Nothing in the State, everything outside the State, everything against the State - Jan Lester, Escape From Leviathan "When plunder becomes a way of life for a group of men living together in society, they create for themselves in the course of time a legal system that authorizes it and a moral code that justifies it." - Frederic Bastiat Good order results spontaneously when things are let alone. - Zhuangzi
Here let me confirm it for you. To: CAPPSMADNESS I voted Peroutka and whoever his runningmate was in 2004. 5 Posted 2005-08-26 19:33:02 by A K A Stone http://www.freedomunderground.org/oldskin/view.php?v=3&t=3&aid=19199
I wasn't questioning your truthfulness. I withdraw my statement about you.
"The Central Intelligence Agency owns everyone of any significance in the major media." ~ William Colby, Director, CIA 1973–1976 Nothing in the State, everything outside the State, everything against the State - Jan Lester, Escape From Leviathan "When plunder becomes a way of life for a group of men living together in society, they create for themselves in the course of time a legal system that authorizes it and a moral code that justifies it." - Frederic Bastiat Good order results spontaneously when things are let alone. - Zhuangzi
I do understand what you were saying AKA, no need to pontificate. Coming from you, that right there is a compliment. : ) Here's more Palin idiocy: "But ultimately what the bailout does is help those who are concerned about the healthcare reform that is needed to help shore up our economy." --Sarah Palin, explaining the $700 billion government bailout of Wall Street to Karie Couric, CBS News interview, Sept. 24, 2008 And THIS is the idiot you are promoting......one for banker bail-outs to "shore up" the economy. Yeah, that's your gal, AKA. Supporting BAILOUTS to "shore up" this economy is a real "change" in policy for the last two idiot POTUS's. Oh and let's review some experience.....with dictatorship: "I'm the mayor, I can do whatever I want until the courts tell me I can't.'" -- Sarah Palin, as quoted by former City Council Member Nick Carney, after he raised objections about the $50,000 she spent renovating the mayor's office without approval of the city council. Wasting money and goin' rogue.........we've had enough of that in this nation already. Only an idiot would want more to go along with WWIII.
"The conscious and intelligent manipulation of the organized habits and opinions of the masses is an important element in democratic society. Those who manipulate this unseen mechanism of society constitute an invisible government which is the true ruling power of our country. ... We are governed, our minds are molded, our tastes formed, our ideas suggested, largely by men we have never heard of." Edward Bernays, Father of Public Relations
I know. I just wanted to verify it as best I could. Peace.
Vice presidnets always support the nominee. Just a fact. Judge her by what she does when she is the head and not the tail.
Like when she was elected gov. of Alaska and she QUIT on her constituents after creating massive debts for the taxpayers to pay? Yes, let's judge her by what she does. Especially since you completely IGNORE what she SAYS. Yes, she creates an environment conducive to ETHICS challenges and then QUITS when she faces ethics challenges under the laws she enacted. Now the next gov. has to come in to office and clean up the stinking pile of crap left by Palin. Yes, let's judge her promotion of abstinence in lieu of her teenage daughter getting knocked up while the baby daddy was having sleep overs in HER home. I could go on and on, but you ignore what she says and I'm sure you will ignore what she does. Apparently, you're a true believer in Juan McAmnesty's stalking horse. Don't expect the rest of us to be THAT naive.
"The conscious and intelligent manipulation of the organized habits and opinions of the masses is an important element in democratic society. Those who manipulate this unseen mechanism of society constitute an invisible government which is the true ruling power of our country. ... We are governed, our minds are molded, our tastes formed, our ideas suggested, largely by men we have never heard of." Edward Bernays, Father of Public Relations
lol......according to Palin, here's what Obama needs to do to get reelected: Palin said Obama would be reelected if "he played the war card. Say he decided to declare war on Iran or decided really come out and do whatever he could to support Israel, which I would like him to do." Come on now, if Saint Sarah says it is so, then it MUST be so and all Obama needs to do is bring on war with Iran and support Israel. Then, you and Sarah could vote for Obama in 2012.
"The conscious and intelligent manipulation of the organized habits and opinions of the masses is an important element in democratic society. Those who manipulate this unseen mechanism of society constitute an invisible government which is the true ruling power of our country. ... We are governed, our minds are molded, our tastes formed, our ideas suggested, largely by men we have never heard of." Edward Bernays, Father of Public Relations
Yes, then Jerimiah Wright and David Duke could have a beer sumit at the WH. Bottoms up on those fo-ohhs of Ol' English 800!
lol......bottoms up!!
"The conscious and intelligent manipulation of the organized habits and opinions of the masses is an important element in democratic society. Those who manipulate this unseen mechanism of society constitute an invisible government which is the true ruling power of our country. ... We are governed, our minds are molded, our tastes formed, our ideas suggested, largely by men we have never heard of." Edward Bernays, Father of Public Relations
I will not vote for anyone who supports Israel.
St. Ausgustine on the State: "It was a criminal band that achieved legitimacy not by renouncing aggression, but rather by attaining impunity."
Boy you really are dumb as well. That Palin bitch had an Israhelli flag in her office when she was gov of Alaska. They are using her as an infiltrator in the Tea Party movement. She loves those jews! She has been compromised by the jews and would continue things doing their bidding and fighting their wars. By the way, didn't christine ban your sorry ass for a spell? Seems like you have been pretty scarce on here for some time. Of course no one really missed you.
She left because liberals like yourself were hounding her. Wise move on her part. She is still the talk of the town and enrages you ostriches.
No Tull banned me. And he agrees with me not you. Your hatred of Jews outweighs everything in your life. You sound like you are probably a muslim (pedophile worshipper)
Actually, I believe that elected officials should serve the full term that they agreed to when they asked for the votes to do the job. A rather conservative take........doing the job you agreed to do for the term in which you agreed to do it. Oh yes, Palin is such a pussy that ol' Katie Couric even gave her a "tough" interview. lol.....mean ol' Katie Couric. This woman can't even hold her own against a few whining liberals and you want her to be POTUS? If she can't take the hounding of a few Alaskan liberals, she has no place seeking any higher office. Enrage? Belly button lint is more significant than Palin. Yawn.
"The conscious and intelligent manipulation of the organized habits and opinions of the masses is an important element in democratic society. Those who manipulate this unseen mechanism of society constitute an invisible government which is the true ruling power of our country. ... We are governed, our minds are molded, our tastes formed, our ideas suggested, largely by men we have never heard of." Edward Bernays, Father of Public Relations
Then why are you so obsessed with her. You're jealous that you are a nobody and she isn't. What positions that she takes do you disagree with. I'm not talking about you're schizophrenia about jews.
You probably hate it that she supports the Arizona law. Isn't for the tax cut expiring. Was against the health care bill. Against cap and trade. Against baby murder. Against queers getting married. Yeah you should just stick with Obama. You have a whole lot more in common with him.
If you really want to defeat Obama and Palin wins the nomination. You have quite a few potential people to convert right here. Good luck.
Obsessed? I merely responded to YOUR THREAD on this topic. Gee, might you be the one who is obsessed? I don't post or create polls or ask questions on forums about Palin......that's your gig. Not in the least jealous, nor am I a "nobody" as you claim. I gave you a plethora of positions that I disagree with on your thread in answer to why I wouldn't drop a vote for her. Once is enough. What is this schizophrenia about Jews you speak of? Provide some posts to substantiate your bovine excrement, AKA. Why do you lie so much?
"The conscious and intelligent manipulation of the organized habits and opinions of the masses is an important element in democratic society. Those who manipulate this unseen mechanism of society constitute an invisible government which is the true ruling power of our country. ... We are governed, our minds are molded, our tastes formed, our ideas suggested, largely by men we have never heard of." Edward Bernays, Father of Public Relations
I support the Arizona law. What's the point of keeping tax cuts alive when SPENDING is the problem? Not happy until we are 20 trillion in debt, eh? I'm against the health care bill and cap and trade and baby murder, not that you bother to read or comprehend this information that has been posted for you ad nauseum. Palin says all Obama needs to do is go to war and support Israel to get reelected........don't you agree completely? She doesn't seem to give a rats ass about the issues you claim to be so near and dear to her, at least according to her own quotes.
"The conscious and intelligent manipulation of the organized habits and opinions of the masses is an important element in democratic society. Those who manipulate this unseen mechanism of society constitute an invisible government which is the true ruling power of our country. ... We are governed, our minds are molded, our tastes formed, our ideas suggested, largely by men we have never heard of." Edward Bernays, Father of Public Relations
and you my friend are a jew penis sucker when they do circumcisions. A baby bone smoker. There are some decent jews, but you my friend are not one of them. You make Bernie madoff look like a saint. Have you killed any Palestinian women and children lately?
I'm not in the converting business. What others do
is their business. I know how they arrived where they are because I have been
standing there myself for 20 years. Obama changed me. He's that bad.
Sure. Why not?
"Aba daba daba daba daba daba daba" said the chimp-y to the monk.
Fuck No. I wouldn't vote for either head of the same hydra. Only fucking retards do that, and we've seen what direction our country has been going in, at the hands of retards.
It is better to be hated for what you are, than loved for what you are not. - Tommy The Mad Artist.
Consider yourself counted out. Nothing personal, but to those that want to "get it on" I suggest that will happen if Obama is fired. You like riots? Would you like to see the Mother of all Riots? Would you enjoy seeing this nation split down the middle? If yes, oust Obama and you, my friend, will see the shit hit the fan.
Indeed. The major cities will burn. This will be an excuse to bring in the military with orders to shoot to kill, and they will.
Yes, they will kill those on the street. I'm good with that :P
As a result, the Constitution will be discarded and this country will have reached the end of the freedom road.
As was mentioned above, my remedy would be for those who are weary of the slippery slope. An Obama rejection would be a sure fire rapid slide into hell, one which, BTW, can't be discounted should Obama be empowered with a 2nd term. The choice comes down to black or white, with blacks choosing black 99.9% of the time. Since both selections are S on a stick, I'm choosing white.
I just don't see national (s)elections being legit. The FEC is a joke. A sick joke. But you make a good point. If chimp is kicked out, it will be shtf, finally. Sometimes I get so disgusted with this planet that I don't care what happens to the idiots. I might have to reconsider. Let the white guilter pussies see what it's all about. And when it comes to the martial law nonsense, there are niggers and real humans in the services. They will fight their own race war. I'd just love to know what their contingency plans are for this. .
Click for Privacy and Preparedness files Live free or We'll never know what is or isn't counted legitimately, but in the event that at least some votes are, should this POS be replaced by a white, it will be Katy bar the door. I can't think of a faster way to shatter the Homeland, and guess which side will be prepared?
Yes, and it doesn't take much time to vote in the off-chance that it might bring the desired results. If I can take the time to do other silly pointless things, I can take the time to vote one more time. I just hope that it's for someone better than McNutcase. And in the meantime, there is no guarantee that things will carry on until 2012. For example: if the republipukes take CONgress this November and trash what's left of the chimps administration, that could cause shtf too. .
Click for Privacy and Preparedness files Live free or All that is ever needed is the slightest spark with those people and you will have a conflagration within minutes. Fires to destroy and distract and looting is off to the races. This time around, just perhaps most likely, we may add rape and murder of whitey, any whitey. It is all there just waiting for the spark. Then and only then will the white guilters see the real ugly face of racism.
The pure beauty of your comment is that the WG'ers will be the first to receive a Reginald Denny Tango. I can hear them now as they're being kicked in the teeth; but I voted for Obama!
That racist hate has always been there. It was stoked and fed by Johnson and the great society. Take the lid off and this time around they will make the last city riots look like sunday school picnics. The order, shoot to kill, must be issued at the opening bell, there is no alternative, as the white masses will defend themselves.
If by lever you mean the Lever on my escare hatch then yes. If Obama can not incite the revolution then Palin darn sure can...and I don't wanna be in a nation under going political revolution with a woman at the helm. I ask for all womens forgives for this point of view. I grew up in a woman dominated house hold with mother and sisters. We have all talked politics both privately and with each other and all the women in my family have told me they would not trust a female president..... They all have their own various reason but if it is the consensus of their opinion I am of the opinion to follow their lead. If Palin wins I shall be activating my bug out plan and getting the hell out of dodge while the pink elephant decides how to handle a job that nobody can do right according everybody.
Yes indeed. Witness enormous jump in gun and ammo sales since His coronation. These weren't purchased for deer season.
#2. To: A K A Stone (#0)
#3. To: Cynicom (#2)
#4. To: A K A Stone (#0)
#5. To: A K A Stone (#0)
Ok it is 2012. You aren't happy with Obama. Palin has won the republican nomination for president. It is election day. You are registered to vote. Do you pull the lever for Palin. Why or why not.
CHIMPOUT!
die kill ~~ Me
God is a separatist. That's good enough for me.
#6. To: Dakmar (#4)
#7. To: PSUSA (#5)
Why vote? We'll only have about a month left to live.
#8. To: A K A Stone (#3)
(Edited)
Ok 80 million don't vote. What did they accomplish?
Lord Acton
OsamaBinGoldstein posted on 2010-05-25 9:39:59 ET (2 images) Reply Trace
#9. To: A K A Stone (#0)
Sloppy SECONDS, anyone?
#10. To: JethroTull, christine, flintlock, ricky j (#9)
#11. To: A K A Stone (#1)
well
#12. To: A K A Stone (#0)
My joy over McCain's defeat, is offset by my disappointment over hObama's victory.
#13. To: A K A Stone (#0)
#14. To: A K A Stone (#0)
computer counted ballots are ballots that have been counted in secret, and with all probability not the way one voted.
#15. To: hondo68 (#12)
She's an open borders globalist, liberal, anti-American, POS.
#16. To: Flintlock (#11)
(Edited)
#17. To: A K A Stone (#0)
#18. To: Lod (#17)
She's for israel, not US.
#19. To: Cynicom, 4 (#18)
#20. To: A K A Stone (#0)
#21. To: Lod, Cynicom, 4 (#19)
Israel first
#22. To: Lod (#17)
computer counted ballots are ballots that have been counted in secret, and with all probability not the way one voted.
#23. To: A K A Stone (#15)
She's an open borders globalist, liberal, anti-American, POS.
My joy over McCain's defeat, is offset by my disappointment over hObama's victory.
#24. To: A K A Stone (#0)
#25. To: A K A Stone (#0)
#26. To: Pinguinite (#25)
(Edited)
No, because a pres Palin will be no different from Obama.
#27. To: A K A Stone (#15)
(Edited)
My joy over McCain's defeat, is offset by my disappointment over hObama's victory.
#28. To: Lod, Jethro Tull (#19)
#29. To: Cynicom (#28)
hunting bare
#30. To: Jethro Tull, Lod (#29)
She cuts a much finer picture than Michelle, that's for certain.
#31. To: Cynicom, guys (#28)
I would still like to go hunting bare with Sarah.
#32. To: Lod, Jethro Tull (#31)
Once we strip politics away, we can get down to the meat of the matter.
#33. To: Cynicom (#32)
One negative about this 4um is the propensity of so many posters to display a dislike for the fairer sex.
#34. To: A K A Stone (#0)
Do you pull the lever for Palin. Why or why not.
#35. To: abraxas (#34)
(Edited)
#36. To: Lod (#33)
Huh?
#37. To: Lod (#35)
#38. To: Pinguinite (#25)
#39. To: Jethro Tull (#29)
#40. To: A K A Stone, *The Border* (#39)
a bunch of folks here that are willing to stick with Obama
My joy over McCain's defeat, is offset by my disappointment over hObama's victory.
#41. To: A K A Stone (#39)
Looks like there are a bunch of folks here that are willing to stick with Obama. I don't get it Jethro. They might as well be voting for him and stop complaining about him if they aren't willing to vote him out.
#42. To: F.A. Hayek Fan (#41)
You and the rest of your faux conservative ilk are part of the problem. You are no better than the Democrats you pretend to hate. You bitch moan and groan and cry your crocodile tears about big government and then turn around and reward the very same people giving you big government with your vote.
#43. To: A K A Stone, 4um (#39)
#44. To: Jethro Tull (#43)
#45. To: Cynicom (#28)
I would still like to go hunting bare with Sarah.
Lord Acton
OsamaBinGoldstein posted on 2010-05-25 9:39:59 ET (2 images) Reply Trace
#46. To: James Deffenbach (#45)
#47. To: Cynicom (#46)
Sometimes my spelling is very bad. hehehehehe
Lord Acton
OsamaBinGoldstein posted on 2010-05-25 9:39:59 ET (2 images) Reply Trace
#48. To: A K A Stone (#44)
#49. To: A K A Stone (#42)
You bitch about Obama but wont vote against him. yap yap yap. That is all you do.
#50. To: A K A Stone (#38)
#51. To: Pinguinite (#50)
I'll grant you Bush wouldn't have pushed through the health care disaster bill, but other than that...
#52. To: Jethro Tull (#51)
#53. To: Jethro Tull (#48)
I'm not sure we can back off from the edge of the cliff we're on, but I haven't a better idea as to how to remove this pack of racists & radicals from the White House.
#54. To: Jethro Tull (#51)
either reinstall O or his probably less odorous R counterpart.
CHIMPOUT!
die kill ~~ Me
God is a separatist. That's good enough for me.
#55. To: Pinguinite (#50)
No, Stone, Palin is not the remedy for the very sick country of the USA. If there's any medicine out there, Ron Paul is it.
#56. To: Pinguinite (#50)
If there's any medicine out there, Ron Paul is it.
#57. To: A K A Stone (#55)
My hypothetical was Palin wins the nomination. If she wins she would be the best chance for a tilt in the right direction.
#58. To: A K A Stone (#56)
If Ron Paul wins the nomination. I wouldn't hesitate to vote for him.
#59. To: A K A Stone (#55)
If she wins she would be the best chance for a tilt in the right direction.
#60. To: LACUMO (#57)
#61. To: abraxas (#59)
#62. To: F.A. Hayek Fan (#58)
You'd vote for Obama if he won the nomination. Not only would you vote for him, you would be here telling us how much better he is than the Democrat he's running against. You're a partisan hack. It's what you do.
#63. To: A K A Stone (#55)
My hypothetical was Palin wins the nomination. If she wins she would be the best chance for a tilt in the right direction.
#64. To: A K A Stone (#61)
Now if the R's nominated someone like Specter then I would share your sentiments.
#65. To: Pinguinite (#63)
And the long run is what you should think about. As one libertarian talk show host once said, we should hope for the worst possible candidate to get elected to bring about the inevitable fall as soon as possible, so we can restart with people wiser for the experience.
#66. To: A K A Stone (#62)
All your statement does is confirm that you are a liar, you make stuff up, and you don't know what you are talking about. It didn't need confirmed but thanks just the same.
#67. To: F.A. Hayek Fan (#64)
They did nominate someone like Specter - John McCain. And his loyal sidekick was Sarah Palin.
#68. To: F.A. Hayek Fan (#66)
#69. To: Pinguinite (#63)
(Edited)
we should hope for the worst possible candidate to get elected to bring about the inevitable fall as soon as possible, so we can restart with people wiser for the experience.
#70. To: F.A. Hayek Fan (#66)
It's what you hacks do and have been doing online every single election cycle since the days of the BBS. Every single election cycle it's exactly the same.
#71. To: A K A Stone, all (#61)
You don't support her and you are not a good example of what an American should be.
#72. To: buckeroo (#69)
That is more hope.... and pie in the sky thinking. There is only one way to fix the situations that are presented today: restore the US Constitution by eliminating the many socialist bureaucratic organizations and revamp the USC while mandating Congress to ensure a balanced budget based on fact and not seat of the pants projections.
#73. To: abraxas (#71)
LOL!!!!!! If supporting Palin is what it takes to be a "good example of what an American should be" then color me a bad example.
#74. To: A K A Stone (#72)
#75. To: buckeroo (#74)
#76. To: A K A Stone (#67)
Yeah I did. But McCain isn't as liberal as Specter.
#77. To: F.A. Hayek Fan (#76)
#78. To: A K A Stone (#68)
You are a liar. You said I would support Obama. That is a made up lie. You are a confirmed deceiver and liar. No ifs ands or butts.
#79. To: F.A. Hayek Fan (#78)
Nope. If Obama was running as a Republican, you would be here shilling for him. That's a fact. Replace Obama's name everywhere you have used Palin and that's what you would be saying about Obama.
#80. To: A K A Stone (#65)
That is what happened in 2008. Now is the time to pick up the pieces and rebuild.
#81. To: A K A Stone (#77)
Just don't paint me as someone would EVER under any circumstances support Obama.
#82. To: Pinguinite (#80)
#83. To: F.A. Hayek Fan (#81)
I'm sorry but I disagree. You have it set in your mind that under no circumstances can you allow a Democrat to either get elected or reelected. No matter who the Republican Party ran as president, even Obama, you would have it in your mind that he would be better than the Democrat nominee. And chances are he would be better even though both are bad for the country.
#84. To: A K A Stone (#79)
Say you are sorry and I will forgive your error.
#85. To: A K A Stone (#83)
I was prepared to let Kerry beat Bush when I voted Peroutaka. So your theory is incorrect.
#86. To: F.A. Hayek Fan (#85)
If that is the case then I withdraw my statement about you and only you, not my generalized theory of the Republican faithful.
#87. To: A K A Stone (#86)
#88. To: A K A Stone (#73)
What I did say is that YOU ARE NOT a good example of what it is to be and American. That you oppose Palin makes her look better.
#89. To: F.A. Hayek Fan (#87)
#90. To: abraxas (#88)
#91. To: A K A Stone (#90)
Judge her by what she does when she is the head and not the tail.
#92. To: A K A Stone (#90)
#93. To: abraxas (#92)
all Obama needs to do is bring on war with Iran and support Israel. Then, you and Sarah could vote for Obama in 2012.
My joy over McCain's defeat, is offset by my disappointment over hObama's victory.
#94. To: hondo68 (#93)
#95. To: A K A Stone (#0)
#96. To: A K A Stone (#60)
There is no such thing as an israeli firster. Saying she is is ridiculous.
#97. To: abraxas (#91)
#98. To: LACUMO (#96)
#99. To: A K A Stone (#97)
She left because liberals like yourself were hounding her
#100. To: abraxas (#99)
Enrage? Belly button lint is more significant than Palin. Yawn. Enrage? Belly button lint is more significant than Palin. Yawn.
#101. To: abraxas (#99)
#102. To: Jethro Tull (#101)
#103. To: A K A Stone (#100)
(Edited)
Then why are you so obsessed with her. You're jealous that you are a nobody and she isn't.
#104. To: A K A Stone (#101)
#105. To: A K A Stone (#98)
No Tull banned me. And he agrees with me not you. Your hatred of Jews outweighs everything in your life. You sound like you are probably a muslim (pedophile worshipper)
#106. To: A K A Stone (#102)
If you really want to defeat Obama and Palin wins the
nomination. You have quite a few potential people to convert right here. Good
luck.
#107. To: A K A Stone (#0)
#108. To: A K A Stone (#0)
#109. To: PSUSA (#54)
Only the slope of the downhill grade will change. And you still don't have any brakes. They are nothing but a long stream of odorous smoke behind you. You're just along for the ride. If that's "the deal", count me out.
#110. To: Jethro Tull (#109)
If yes, oust Obama and you, my friend, will see the shit hit the fan.
#111. To: Cynicom (#110)
#112. To: Jethro Tull (#111)
Yes, they will kill those on the street. I'm good with that :P
#113. To: Cynicom (#112)
#114. To: Jethro Tull (#109)
Consider yourself counted out. Nothing personal, but to those that want to "get it on" I suggest that will happen if Obama is fired. You like riots? Would you like to see the Mother of all Riots? Would you enjoy seeing this nation split down the middle? If yes, oust Obama and you, my friend, will see the shit hit the fan.
CHIMPOUT!
die kill ~~ Me
God is a separatist. That's good enough for me.
#115. To: PSUSA (#114)
(Edited)
I might have to reconsider. Let the white guilter pussies see what it's all about.
#116. To: Jethro Tull (#115)
CHIMPOUT!
die kill ~~ Me
God is a separatist. That's good enough for me.
#117. To: Jethro Tull (#115)
#118. To: Cynicom (#117)
Then and only then will the white guilters see the real ugly face of racism.
#119. To: Jethro Tull (#118)
(Edited)
I can hear them now as they're being kicked in the teeth; but I voted for Obama!
#120. To: A K A Stone (#0)
Ok it is 2012. You aren't happy with Obama. Palin has won the republican nomination for president. It is election day. You are registered to vote. Do you pull the lever for Palin. Why or why not.
#121. To: Cynicom (#119)
The order, shoot to kill, must be issued at the opening bell, there is no alternative, as the white masses will defend themselves.
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