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Title: Flight 77 Cockpit Door Never Opened During 9/11 “Hijack”
Source: Rock Creek Free Press
URL Source: http://rockcreekfreepress.tumblr.com/post/285492999/flt77fdr
Published: Dec 15, 2009
Author: Sheila Casey
Post Date: 2010-07-14 02:07:35 by FormerLurker
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Keywords: Flight 77, 9/11, Black Box
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Flight 77 Cockpit Door Never Opened During 9/11 “Hijack"


Flight Data Recorder By Sheila Casey / Rock Creek Free Press

Pilots for 9/11 Truth has reported that the data stream from the flight data recorder (FDR) for American Airlines flight 77, which allegedly struck the Pentagon on 9/11, shows that the cockpit door never opened during the entire 90 minute flight. The data was provided by the National Transportation Safety Board (NTSB), which has refused to comment.

The FDR is one of two “black boxes” in every commercial airliner, which are used after accidents to help determine the cause of a crash. One black box records flight data, the other records voice data (everything said in the cockpit during the flight). With those two sets of data, NTSB investigators can usually piece together the events that led to a crash. The status of the door to the cockpit is checked every four seconds throughout a flight and relayed as a simple 0 or 1, where 0=closed and 1=open, with approximately 1,300 door status checks performed during AA77’s 90 minute flight. Every one of those door status checks shows as a 0, indicating that the door to the cockpit never opened during the entire flight.

Accident investigators monitor the cockpit door with the FDR because it may yield clues to pilot error in a crash. The FDR begins recording once the pilots are in their seats and readying for takeoff, and the plane cannot take off unless the FDR is working.

The official story about flight 77 is that five Muslim terrorists brandishing box cutters forced their way into the cockpit and herded two pilots, four flight attendants and all the passengers to the back of the plane. This story came into being via Ted Olson, US Solicitor General, who told CNN — that he received two phone calls from his wife Barbara Olson, a passenger on the doomed flight. Ted Olson’s story changed several times. Sometimes he claimed that the calls from his wife were made from seat back phones, other times that she used her cell phone.

According to American Airlines customer service, the American Airlines maintenance manual for that aircraft, and American Airlines Captain Ralph Kolstad, seatback phones on 757s had been deactivated prior to 9/11/01. (They were later removed entirely, as they never worked well.)

Barbara Olson couldn’t have used a cell phone either: numerous 9/11 researchers, most notably David Ray Griffin, have pointed out that cell phones did not work on airplanes on 9/11. The speed and altitude of a commercial airliner both present overwhelming obstacles to a cell phone’s need to lock onto a cell tower and then hand off to another tower in a new location.

It was the FBI that revealed the evidence that decisively disproves Ted Olson’s story. In the Zacarias Moussaoui trial in 2006, the FBI presented a report on the cell phone calls from all four 9/11 flights. Their report on AA77 shows that there was only one phone call from Barbara Olson, but that it was an unconnected call lasting zero seconds. So Ted Olson either lied about receiving calls from his wife or was deceived into believing he received calls from her.

According to the UK Telegraph, Barbara Olson delayed her flight on 9/11 so that she could have breakfast with her husband on his birthday. That delay put her on the doomed flight. Ted Olson remarried in 2006 to tax attorney Lady Booth, whom he reportedly met the year after Barbara died.

There are numerous oddities and contradictions about AA77’s black boxes.

The government claims that the voice data recorder was damaged during the crash and that no usable data was retrieved from it. If true, this would be the first time in aviation history that a solid-state data recorder was destroyed during a crash.

While it was widely reported in the media that the FDR for AA77 was found at 4 am on September 14, 2001, the file containing the FDR data was dated over four hours earlier. In other words, we are asked to believe that the data from the FDR was downloaded prior to the FDR being found.

Researcher Aidan Monagahan has established that the NTSB does not have either serial or part numbers for the FDRs from AA77. The NTSB’s own handbook indicates that the part number and serial number of the FDR are required for data readout of the FDR. The NTSB did not have this information, giving us another reason to question how the FDR data was created.

Structural engineer Allyn Kilsheimer claimed that he personally found AA77’s black box on 9/11. But in the Popular Mechanics book Debunking 9/11 Myths, Kilsheimer is quoted as saying, “I stood on a pile of debris that we later found contained the black box 70;”

Kilsheimer’s story changes again in August 2007 in a piece done by the History Channel, “The 9/11 Conspiracies,” where he claims “I tripped over something; it was the black box.”

In earlier work, Pilots for 9/11 Truth (P4T) has determined that the same data set provided by the NTSB shows the plane too high to hit the Pentagon, based on an altimeter that uses air pressure to calibrate altitude.

As reported in the April 2009 Rock Creek Free Press, Citizen Investigation Team, citizen journalists from southern California, has collected evidence from 14 eyewitnesses that shows that the plane seen that morning near the Pentagon did not hit the building, but flew over it at the moment explosives detonated in the Pentagon, leading observers to conclude that the plane had crashed into the Pentagon.

Questions about what happened at the Pentagon have intrigued 9/11 researchers for years, beginning with photos from the alleged crash scene which do not show the wreckage of a plane.

This new evidence, showing that the cockpit door never opened during flight, is another nail in the coffin of the official story about flight 77. Clearly, if the cockpit door never opened, then hijackers did not storm the cockpit and herd the pilots to the back of the plane. The data, which originated from the government, does not support the government’s story.

Why would the government release data which contradicts its own version of events? It is possible they were just sloppy, or that they never anticipated that anyone would parse the data as carefully as Pilots for 9/11 Truth have. They may have also felt secure, that regardless of what damning revelations were contained in the FDR data, no mainstream media outlet would give them ink or air time, keeping the official story intact for the vast majority of Americans who receive their news from mainstream sources.

Rob Balsamo, founder of Pilots for 9/11 Truth, stated: “We have not located any independently verified data which confirms the government’s story. The FBI and NTSB refuse to comment.” Founded in August 2006, Pilots For 9/11 Truth is an organization of aviation professionals from around the globe who are investigating the government’s claims about the attacks of 9/11.

Sheila Casey is a DC based journalist. Her work has appeared in The Denver Post, Reuters, Chicago Sun-Times, Dissident Voice and Common Dreams.


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#1. To: Original_Intent, abraxas, HAPPY2BME-4UM, wudidiz, Twenty Twelve, Horse, Lod, christine, ALL (#0)

Flight 77 Cockpit Door Never Opened During 9/11 “Hijack"

Anybody ever hear of this before?

FormerLurker  posted on  2010-07-14   2:40:09 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#97. To: FormerLurker, Original_Intent, abraxas, HAPPY2BME-4UM, wudidiz, Twenty Twelve, Horse, Lod, christine (#1)

Anybody ever hear of this before?

I serviced automatic doors for years including bank and silver vaults and The Federal Reserve and IRS buildings, and the door status (and door interlocks or "man traps") are monitored and controlled by reed switches and magnets. The magnet is installed either on the face or in the nose of the door, and the reed switch is installed in the frame. When the door opens the magnet is moved away from the switch which then changes states and signals that the door is open.

Now, the govt may claim that the door status switch wasn't working at the time of the flight, but this would be easily disproven if the FDR was working and recorded the pilots or crew entering the cockpit prior to liftoff. Because "the FDR must be working or the plane cannot take off" we can assume that the govt's only other excuse is, "the data was corrupted by the crash".

Hey, according to the official fairie tale high rise construction is based on many false engineering principles, even though no major changes have been adopted since 9/11. So, they may claim that FDRs sometimes glitch even though no changes will be made to them, either.

HOUNDDAWG  posted on  2010-07-15   0:58:37 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#99. To: HOUNDDAWG (#97)

Now, the govt may claim that the door status switch wasn't working at the time of the flight, but this would be easily disproven if the FDR was working and recorded the pilots or crew entering the cockpit prior to liftoff.

Thing is, they shut down the flight data recorder when they shut down the engines between flights, so the FDR normally wouldn't record the door opening.

FormerLurker  posted on  2010-07-15   1:12:26 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#101. To: FormerLurker (#99)

Thing is, they shut down the flight data recorder when they shut down the engines between flights, so the FDR normally wouldn't record the door opening.

Nearly every flight I've ever taken I've seen flight attendants enter the cockpit. Also, when the crew needs to use the WC they have to open the door, right?

So, if there is evidence of the door being opened prior to takeoff (thereby showing that the switch was working) but not opened in flight it puts the "explainers" in a precarious position, wouldn't you say?

HOUNDDAWG  posted on  2010-07-15   1:21:28 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#104. To: HOUNDDAWG (#101)

Nearly every flight I've ever taken I've seen flight attendants enter the cockpit. Also, when the crew needs to use the WC they have to open the door, right?

Not according to a large group of pilots, who state that it's common for pilots to use the bathroom prior to getting into the cockpit, bring their own lunches with them, and keep the door closed during flight.

Also, it may depend on the type of aircraft, where it might be more common on older style planes for the flight attendent to enter the cockpit, but on larger and more modern planes such as the 757, the cockpit is more self contained.

From Link

Also, it is not unusual to keep the cockpit door closed during flight. I have gone on many 4-5 hour flights never leaving the cockpit. I've even done many trips single and twin engine prop from NY to Florida, Memphis... etc, 8-10 hours of flying, with one pee break at midway point when stopping for gas. I know many pilots who go hours without leaving their seat.

Many pilots dont like to leave the flight deck. Its called "The Walk Of Shame" for a reason...lol

Also keep in mind, some of the previous flight locations if i recall were LA- ORD-MIA-IAD, These are relatively short legs. 2-3 hours. Hit the bathroom before boarding, bring your lunch (which most pilots do to save some cash and eat more healthy than airline food), and you never need to leave your seat. There is also plenty of room to stretch on a 757 Flight Deck.

So, if there is evidence of the door being opened prior to takeoff (thereby showing that the switch was working) but not opened in flight it puts the "explainers" in a precarious position, wouldn't you say?

The FDR only starts recording once the engines are running, and there is usually no reason to open the door prior to takeoff after the pilots are in their seats and the engines are running prior to takeoff.

The case here is that the FDR shows the door being closed for the entire flight, and for the 11 prior flights, although that isn't that unusual, in fact, it's pretty common.

What makes it unusual here is that if the flight deck door remained closed for the entire flight, then obviously the plane was not hijacked.

FormerLurker  posted on  2010-07-15   1:42:36 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#164. To: FormerLurker (#104)

The case here is that the FDR shows the door being closed for the entire flight, and for the 11 prior flights, although that isn't that unusual, in fact, it's pretty common.

What makes it unusual here is that if the flight deck door remained closed for the entire flight, then obviously the plane was not hijacked.

(O)bviously?

Let's try this: "Since we know the plane was hijacked obviously the door monitoring equipment wasn't working properly or the data was corrupted in the crash."

Now, prove that is untrue if you can.

The govt will no doubt take the position that the data proves nothing, and they may be right.

If the door was never opened and recorded, then how does one prove that the equipment was functioning in a plane that no longer exists?

No need to get excited about this bit of non information. Professional liars will explain it away and dumbed down Americans who have no need to know the truth will accept the explanation, and we'll simply add it to the list of suspicious if not impossible facts and actions that govt asserts, and we cannot make stick in a country brimming with OJ jurors.

HOUNDDAWG  posted on  2010-07-15   10:02:41 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#210. To: HOUNDDAWG (#164)

(O)bviously?

Let's try this: "Since we know the plane was hijacked obviously the door monitoring equipment wasn't working properly or the data was corrupted in the crash."

I meant it in the way of if the door actually remained closed, not in the way of what the sensor showed necessarily. The fact is, if the door actually DID remain closed, then there WAS no hijacking since nobody, neither stewardess nor crazed "Muzzie", entered the cockpit during the flight.

However, since the plane will not takeoff if the FDR or any of its sensors are malfunctioning, I'd lean on the side of the data field being valid.

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