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Title: Flight 77 Cockpit Door Never Opened During 9/11 “Hijack”
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Published: Dec 15, 2009
Author: Sheila Casey
Post Date: 2010-07-14 02:07:35 by FormerLurker
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Flight 77 Cockpit Door Never Opened During 9/11 “Hijack"
By Sheila Casey / Rock Creek Free Press
Pilots for 9/11 Truth has reported that the data stream from the flight data recorder (FDR) for American Airlines flight 77, which allegedly struck the Pentagon on 9/11, shows that the cockpit door never opened during the entire 90 minute flight. The data was provided by the National Transportation Safety Board (NTSB), which has refused to comment.
The FDR is one of two “black boxes” in every commercial airliner, which are used after accidents to help determine the cause of a crash. One black box records flight data, the other records voice data (everything said in the cockpit during the flight). With those two sets of data, NTSB investigators can usually piece together the events that led to a crash. The status of the door to the cockpit is checked every four seconds throughout a flight and relayed as a simple 0 or 1, where 0=closed and 1=open, with approximately 1,300 door status checks performed during AA77’s 90 minute flight. Every one of those door status checks shows as a 0, indicating that the door to the cockpit never opened during the entire flight.
Accident investigators monitor the cockpit door with the FDR because it may yield clues to pilot error in a crash. The FDR begins recording once the pilots are in their seats and readying for takeoff, and the plane cannot take off unless the FDR is working.
The official story about flight 77 is that five Muslim terrorists brandishing box cutters forced their way into the cockpit and herded two pilots, four flight attendants and all the passengers to the back of the plane. This story came into being via Ted Olson, US Solicitor General, who told CNN — that he received two phone calls from his wife Barbara Olson, a passenger on the doomed flight. Ted Olson’s story changed several times. Sometimes he claimed that the calls from his wife were made from seat back phones, other times that she used her cell phone.
According to American Airlines customer service, the American Airlines maintenance manual for that aircraft, and American Airlines Captain Ralph Kolstad, seatback phones on 757s had been deactivated prior to 9/11/01. (They were later removed entirely, as they never worked well.)
Barbara Olson couldn’t have used a cell phone either: numerous 9/11 researchers, most notably David Ray Griffin, have pointed out that cell phones did not work on airplanes on 9/11. The speed and altitude of a commercial airliner both present overwhelming obstacles to a cell phone’s need to lock onto a cell tower and then hand off to another tower in a new location.
It was the FBI that revealed the evidence that decisively disproves Ted Olson’s story. In the Zacarias Moussaoui trial in 2006, the FBI presented a report on the cell phone calls from all four 9/11 flights. Their report on AA77 shows that there was only one phone call from Barbara Olson, but that it was an unconnected call lasting zero seconds. So Ted Olson either lied about receiving calls from his wife or was deceived into believing he received calls from her.
According to the UK Telegraph, Barbara Olson delayed her flight on 9/11 so that she could have breakfast with her husband on his birthday. That delay put her on the doomed flight. Ted Olson remarried in 2006 to tax attorney Lady Booth, whom he reportedly met the year after Barbara died.
There are numerous oddities and contradictions about AA77’s black boxes.
The government claims that the voice data recorder was damaged during the crash and that no usable data was retrieved from it. If true, this would be the first time in aviation history that a solid-state data recorder was destroyed during a crash.
While it was widely reported in the media that the FDR for AA77 was found at 4 am on September 14, 2001, the file containing the FDR data was dated over four hours earlier. In other words, we are asked to believe that the data from the FDR was downloaded prior to the FDR being found.
Researcher Aidan Monagahan has established that the NTSB does not have either serial or part numbers for the FDRs from AA77. The NTSB’s own handbook indicates that the part number and serial number of the FDR are required for data readout of the FDR. The NTSB did not have this information, giving us another reason to question how the FDR data was created.
Structural engineer Allyn Kilsheimer claimed that he personally found AA77’s black box on 9/11. But in the Popular Mechanics book Debunking 9/11 Myths, Kilsheimer is quoted as saying, “I stood on a pile of debris that we later found contained the black box 70;”
Kilsheimer’s story changes again in August 2007 in a piece done by the History Channel, “The 9/11 Conspiracies,” where he claims “I tripped over something; it was the black box.”
In earlier work, Pilots for 9/11 Truth (P4T) has determined that the same data set provided by the NTSB shows the plane too high to hit the Pentagon, based on an altimeter that uses air pressure to calibrate altitude.
As reported in the April 2009 Rock Creek Free Press, Citizen Investigation Team, citizen journalists from southern California, has collected evidence from 14 eyewitnesses that shows that the plane seen that morning near the Pentagon did not hit the building, but flew over it at the moment explosives detonated in the Pentagon, leading observers to conclude that the plane had crashed into the Pentagon.
Questions about what happened at the Pentagon have intrigued 9/11 researchers for years, beginning with photos from the alleged crash scene which do not show the wreckage of a plane.
This new evidence, showing that the cockpit door never opened during flight, is another nail in the coffin of the official story about flight 77. Clearly, if the cockpit door never opened, then hijackers did not storm the cockpit and herd the pilots to the back of the plane. The data, which originated from the government, does not support the government’s story.
Why would the government release data which contradicts its own version of events? It is possible they were just sloppy, or that they never anticipated that anyone would parse the data as carefully as Pilots for 9/11 Truth have. They may have also felt secure, that regardless of what damning revelations were contained in the FDR data, no mainstream media outlet would give them ink or air time, keeping the official story intact for the vast majority of Americans who receive their news from mainstream sources.
Rob Balsamo, founder of Pilots for 9/11 Truth, stated: “We have not located any independently verified data which confirms the government’s story. The FBI and NTSB refuse to comment.” Founded in August 2006, Pilots For 9/11 Truth is an organization of aviation professionals from around the globe who are investigating the government’s claims about the attacks of 9/11.
Sheila Casey is a DC based journalist. Her work has appeared in The Denver Post, Reuters, Chicago Sun-Times, Dissident Voice and Common Dreams.
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Here's a link to the Pilots for 9/11 Truth articles on the matter. 9/11: PENTAGON AIRCRAFT HIJACK IMPOSSIBLE
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#18. To: All (#0)
Flight 77 Cockpit Door Never Opened During 9/11 “Hijack” Once again a CT site fails to report all the information, holding back full disclosure of facts that will fail to support wild non-hijacking theories. Thereby serving as an instigator for conflict between Six Percenters hardliners and the much larger "certain elements within USG allowed 911 to happen" group. The flight data recorder was at least partially melted, and not only did not indicate any movement of Flight 75's cabin door on September 11, it also did not show any movement for 40 hours and 11 flights prior to Flight 75 on September 11. Why aren't the CT sites saying this? This information was submitted as evidence at the Massoui trial in Virginia. Why aren't the weasely "Scholars" and "Truthers" disclosing it? The NTSB reported that "The majority of the recording tape was fused into a solid block of charred plastic." No usable segments of tape were found inside the recorder.[85] The Flight Data Recorder failed to record certain parameters with certainty. Among the uncertain parameters was the status of the cockpit door, which showed no sign of having been opened during the hijacking or previous 40 hours, including 11 flights prior to the hijacking."
Oh brother, this is according to the government story, wherein NIST verifies what the FBI claims........ Don't you understand that most here believe that the government story IS the conspiracy. More date from this source will never help you make your case. Much of what NIST offered for inclusion in the official "Commission Report" has already been proven to be complete bovine excrement. The government isn't an independence source, AGA. We are aware of the story they are dishing out, such as this convenient black box that didn't have any information.
Not even the government is saying the flight data recorder didn't have any information, it's AGAviator who is showing a picture of the cockpit voice recorder, conveniently leaving out the text which describes what the image is, and posting some text which makes one THINK what they are seeing is the FLIGHT DATA RECORDER.
Anything coming from NIST is suspect as they have continually denied access to information and spread bovine excrement. Director of NIST: Disclosure of WTC7 data "might jeopardize public safety" cryptome.org/nist070709.pdf FINDING REGARDING PUBLIC SAFETY INFORMATION Pursuant to Section 7(d) of the National Construction Safety Team Act, I hereby find that the disclosure of the information described below, received by the National Institute of Standards and Technology ("NIST"), in connection with its investigation of the technical causes of the collapse of the World Trade Center Towers and World Trade Center Building 7 on September 11,2001, might jeopardize public safety. Therefore, NIST shall not release the following information: 1. All input and results files of the ANSYS 16-story collapse initiation model with detailed connection models that were used to analyze the structural response to thermal loads, break element source code, ANSYS script files for the break elements, custom executable ANSYS file, and all Excel spreadsheets and other supporting calculations used to develop floor connection failure modes and capacities. 2. All input files with connection material properties and all results files of the LS-DYNA 47-story global collapse model that were used to simulate sequential structural failures leading to collapse, and all Excel spreadsheets and other supporting calculations used to develop floor connection failure modes and capacities. ~ Patrick Gallagher Director National Institute of Standards and Technology Dated: JUL 09 2009 Meanwhile, AGA likes to ask why the people can't get any information......ignoring the obvious.
Right, but the flight data recorder from Flight 77 is being handled by the NTSB (National Transportation Safety Board). Not that they're any more truthful, but they are in fact the agency involved, not NIST. From what the researchers who have looked over the data have found, the flight data indicates the plane couldn't have hit the light poles since the aircraft would have been too high to do so, IF the data is actually from the real Flight 77 FDR. You should follow the link to the Pilots for 9/11 truth website, it contains some pretty interesting info.
Right, but the flight data recorder from Flight 77 is being handled by the NTSB (National Transportation Safety Board). Not that they're any more truthful, but they are in fact the agency involved, not NIST. From what the researchers who have looked over the data have found, the flight data indicates the plane couldn't have hit the light poles since the aircraft would have been too high to do so, IF the data is actually from the real Flight 77 FDR. You should follow the link to the Pilots for 9/11 truth website, it contains some pretty interesting info. Taken as valid that would seem to validate the "David Copperfield" scenario wherein the plane is flown over the building and then another object hits or demolition charges are set off - patterned to make it look like a hit. The key factor being, of course, the timing. The "hit"/"explosion" would have to occur perhaps a second ahead of the actual overflight thus creating the illusion the plane hit. Then of course they just ditch, or land it and then whack the witnesses (passengers).
#38. To: Original_Intent (#34)
That is extremely possible given there are two sets of witnesses, one group states the aircraft flew a path south of the Citgo station (which is the OFFICIAL approach path), and another which state that the aircraft flew a path NORTH of the Citgo station. Pentagon officers Sgt. Lagasse and Sgt. Brooks are both adament that they saw the aircraft fly NORTH of the Citgo station.
My daughter heard two explosions, but she is not sure now how close they were. She was younger then, and scared out of her wits. I knew it was an inside job when I first heard the plane going over, since I had been forewarned by something Lyndon LaRouche had written back in May, 2001, I think. I remember reading the two Northern flights passed by military airports. I read that long after I read Carol Valentine's "Flight of the Bumble Plane" theory about Flight 77. It made a little blip in its flight pattern over Jay Rockefeller's West Virginia, but anyway, it wasn't far from the MILITARY-COMMERCIAL airport in Charles Town. I think possibly flight 77 was switched with the Skywarrior mid-air, flight 77 landed at the military airport, and as some have said, the passengers loaded onto Flight 93 [I don't have the timeline there, so I don't know if that fits], where it was subsequently shot down by the Happy Hooligans, who were on a special mission to Andrews Air Force Base [which SHOULD have been protecting the Pentagon and DC, but whose pilots were sent on another mission out of town], and who were rewarded with a medal by Congress for their deed [they probably thought they were doing good....wonder if they're still alive today?]. Some people think, since all the planes were only 1/3 full, that all the passengers were loaded onto Flight 93. Some think the planes were sent over the ocean, where the Navy was doing drills that day to shoot down enemy aircraft. [They might have thought they were shooting holographic images!] What a shame all that creativity couldn't have been put to better use, bettering mankind, instead of destroying it.
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#28. To: AGAviator (#18)
#29. To: abraxas (#28)
We are aware of the story they are dishing out, such as this convenient black box that didn't have any information.
#30. To: FormerLurker, AGAbloviator (#29)
#31. To: abraxas (#30)
Anything coming from NIST is suspect as they have continually denied access to information and spread bovine excrement.
#34. To: FormerLurker, abraxas, farmfriend, christine, wudidiz, all (#31)
nything coming from NIST is suspect as they have continually denied access to information and spread bovine excrement.
Replies to Comment # 34. Taken as valid that would seem to validate the "David Copperfield" scenario wherein the plane is flown over the building and then another object hits or demolition charges are set off - patterned to make it look like a hit.
#244. To: Original_Intent (#34)
Taken as valid that would seem to validate the "David Copperfield" scenario wherein the plane is flown over the building and then another object hits or demolition charges are set off - patterned to make it look like a hit. The key factor being, of course, the timing. The "hit"/"explosion" would have to occur perhaps a second ahead of the actual overflight thus creating the illusion the plane hit. Then of course they just ditch, or land it and then whack the witnesses (passengers).
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