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Title: Flight 77 Cockpit Door Never Opened During 9/11 “Hijack”
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URL Source: http://rockcreekfreepress.tumblr.com/post/285492999/flt77fdr
Published: Dec 15, 2009
Author: Sheila Casey
Post Date: 2010-07-14 02:07:35 by FormerLurker
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Flight 77 Cockpit Door Never Opened During 9/11 “Hijack"
By Sheila Casey / Rock Creek Free Press
Pilots for 9/11 Truth has reported that the data stream from the flight data recorder (FDR) for American Airlines flight 77, which allegedly struck the Pentagon on 9/11, shows that the cockpit door never opened during the entire 90 minute flight. The data was provided by the National Transportation Safety Board (NTSB), which has refused to comment.
The FDR is one of two “black boxes” in every commercial airliner, which are used after accidents to help determine the cause of a crash. One black box records flight data, the other records voice data (everything said in the cockpit during the flight). With those two sets of data, NTSB investigators can usually piece together the events that led to a crash. The status of the door to the cockpit is checked every four seconds throughout a flight and relayed as a simple 0 or 1, where 0=closed and 1=open, with approximately 1,300 door status checks performed during AA77’s 90 minute flight. Every one of those door status checks shows as a 0, indicating that the door to the cockpit never opened during the entire flight.
Accident investigators monitor the cockpit door with the FDR because it may yield clues to pilot error in a crash. The FDR begins recording once the pilots are in their seats and readying for takeoff, and the plane cannot take off unless the FDR is working.
The official story about flight 77 is that five Muslim terrorists brandishing box cutters forced their way into the cockpit and herded two pilots, four flight attendants and all the passengers to the back of the plane. This story came into being via Ted Olson, US Solicitor General, who told CNN — that he received two phone calls from his wife Barbara Olson, a passenger on the doomed flight. Ted Olson’s story changed several times. Sometimes he claimed that the calls from his wife were made from seat back phones, other times that she used her cell phone.
According to American Airlines customer service, the American Airlines maintenance manual for that aircraft, and American Airlines Captain Ralph Kolstad, seatback phones on 757s had been deactivated prior to 9/11/01. (They were later removed entirely, as they never worked well.)
Barbara Olson couldn’t have used a cell phone either: numerous 9/11 researchers, most notably David Ray Griffin, have pointed out that cell phones did not work on airplanes on 9/11. The speed and altitude of a commercial airliner both present overwhelming obstacles to a cell phone’s need to lock onto a cell tower and then hand off to another tower in a new location.
It was the FBI that revealed the evidence that decisively disproves Ted Olson’s story. In the Zacarias Moussaoui trial in 2006, the FBI presented a report on the cell phone calls from all four 9/11 flights. Their report on AA77 shows that there was only one phone call from Barbara Olson, but that it was an unconnected call lasting zero seconds. So Ted Olson either lied about receiving calls from his wife or was deceived into believing he received calls from her.
According to the UK Telegraph, Barbara Olson delayed her flight on 9/11 so that she could have breakfast with her husband on his birthday. That delay put her on the doomed flight. Ted Olson remarried in 2006 to tax attorney Lady Booth, whom he reportedly met the year after Barbara died.
There are numerous oddities and contradictions about AA77’s black boxes.
The government claims that the voice data recorder was damaged during the crash and that no usable data was retrieved from it. If true, this would be the first time in aviation history that a solid-state data recorder was destroyed during a crash.
While it was widely reported in the media that the FDR for AA77 was found at 4 am on September 14, 2001, the file containing the FDR data was dated over four hours earlier. In other words, we are asked to believe that the data from the FDR was downloaded prior to the FDR being found.
Researcher Aidan Monagahan has established that the NTSB does not have either serial or part numbers for the FDRs from AA77. The NTSB’s own handbook indicates that the part number and serial number of the FDR are required for data readout of the FDR. The NTSB did not have this information, giving us another reason to question how the FDR data was created.
Structural engineer Allyn Kilsheimer claimed that he personally found AA77’s black box on 9/11. But in the Popular Mechanics book Debunking 9/11 Myths, Kilsheimer is quoted as saying, “I stood on a pile of debris that we later found contained the black box 70;”
Kilsheimer’s story changes again in August 2007 in a piece done by the History Channel, “The 9/11 Conspiracies,” where he claims “I tripped over something; it was the black box.”
In earlier work, Pilots for 9/11 Truth (P4T) has determined that the same data set provided by the NTSB shows the plane too high to hit the Pentagon, based on an altimeter that uses air pressure to calibrate altitude.
As reported in the April 2009 Rock Creek Free Press, Citizen Investigation Team, citizen journalists from southern California, has collected evidence from 14 eyewitnesses that shows that the plane seen that morning near the Pentagon did not hit the building, but flew over it at the moment explosives detonated in the Pentagon, leading observers to conclude that the plane had crashed into the Pentagon.
Questions about what happened at the Pentagon have intrigued 9/11 researchers for years, beginning with photos from the alleged crash scene which do not show the wreckage of a plane.
This new evidence, showing that the cockpit door never opened during flight, is another nail in the coffin of the official story about flight 77. Clearly, if the cockpit door never opened, then hijackers did not storm the cockpit and herd the pilots to the back of the plane. The data, which originated from the government, does not support the government’s story.
Why would the government release data which contradicts its own version of events? It is possible they were just sloppy, or that they never anticipated that anyone would parse the data as carefully as Pilots for 9/11 Truth have. They may have also felt secure, that regardless of what damning revelations were contained in the FDR data, no mainstream media outlet would give them ink or air time, keeping the official story intact for the vast majority of Americans who receive their news from mainstream sources.
Rob Balsamo, founder of Pilots for 9/11 Truth, stated: “We have not located any independently verified data which confirms the government’s story. The FBI and NTSB refuse to comment.” Founded in August 2006, Pilots For 9/11 Truth is an organization of aviation professionals from around the globe who are investigating the government’s claims about the attacks of 9/11.
Sheila Casey is a DC based journalist. Her work has appeared in The Denver Post, Reuters, Chicago Sun-Times, Dissident Voice and Common Dreams.
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Here's a link to the Pilots for 9/11 Truth articles on the matter. 9/11: PENTAGON AIRCRAFT HIJACK IMPOSSIBLE
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#745. To: wudidiz (#742)
No, it would take he a half hour to load it on dial-up, but I have looked at enough stills, and some footage I took the time to download, to know what occurred. Is there something new in this one?
"One of the least understood strategies of the world revolution now moving rapidly toward its goal is the use of mind control as a major means of obtaining the consent of the people who will be subjects of the New World Order." K.M. Heaton, The National Educator
Okay, but I'll have to do it tomorrow. I'm going to bed here in a minute.
"One of the least understood strategies of the world revolution now moving rapidly toward its goal is the use of mind control as a major means of obtaining the consent of the people who will be subjects of the New World Order." K.M. Heaton, The National Educator
It's the clip of a fireman saying they found nothing, no phones, no computers no desks, no nothing. Just dust.
Psychopaths don't have a conscience. That's why as children they enjoy killing little puppies, kittens, and later on in life move up to larger animals, such as men, women, and children.
Interesting. If everything was turned to dust that really does raise the spectre of the use of some type of vibratory weapon that breaks things down at a near molecular level. Very high tech stuff which you would find only in the black budget research.
"One of the least understood strategies of the world revolution now moving rapidly toward its goal is the use of mind control as a major means of obtaining the consent of the people who will be subjects of the New World Order." K.M. Heaton, The National Educator
Leuren Moret says it's fourth generation nukes.
Yeah OI, you really should watch the one I posted, it's pretty revealing in that the entire tower just turned to dust. Sorry I didn't ping you, I thought you'd see it.
I strongly recommend downloading this if you can
Did you see the core columns at about 1:00 to 1:11? It's so obvious. They fucking disintegrate.
Something like that might have been used on the foundation, but it still doesn't account for the dust. The microfine dust suggests molecular disassociation and the only thing I can think of that would do that would be some form of scalar device or ultrasonics, but I don't think ultrasonics would have sufficient range unless they were actually inside the towers.
"One of the least understood strategies of the world revolution now moving rapidly toward its goal is the use of mind control as a major means of obtaining the consent of the people who will be subjects of the New World Order." K.M. Heaton, The National Educator
Two things cause pyroclastic clouds. Volcanoes and nukes.
Ho problem. Yes I'll watch - just not tonight I'm about to fall asleep in my chair and I don't want to sleep till noon. ;-)
"One of the least understood strategies of the world revolution now moving rapidly toward its goal is the use of mind control as a major means of obtaining the consent of the people who will be subjects of the New World Order." K.M. Heaton, The National Educator
The Finnish Military Expert says it was planted in the elevator shaft. This would explain the columns disintegrating. The blast went straight up.
Two things cause pyroclastic clouds. Volcanoes and nukes. Point granted. I have long suggested that the only thing that I can think of that account for the pools of molten steel in the debris 6 to 8 weeks after the day of the attack is radioactive heating. If I recall correctly NYC passed an ordnance making Geiger Counters in private hands illegal in the city.
"One of the least understood strategies of the world revolution now moving rapidly toward its goal is the use of mind control as a major means of obtaining the consent of the people who will be subjects of the New World Order." K.M. Heaton, The National Educator
It's so obvious. They fucking disintegrate. It certainly had nothing to do with "pancakes".
How would you describe what you saw happen to the core columns in the video at 1:00 to 1:14?
They nuked New York and hardly anyone even realizes it.
I wouldn't say nuke, I'd be leaning more towards a resonant frequency weapon or something on that idea.
OI can't watch the video. I asked you to please describe what you saw happen to the core columns.
Everybody gets all weird anytime I mention nukes around here.
What I saw was the tower literally turn to dust, as well as the core of the building without any other external force after they were exposed by the rest of the building disintegrating.
Not saying it wasn't some exotic sort of nuke that initiated the collapse, it's just that you asked my opinion on what I thought of the core, and I gave you my opinion.
400+ first responder radiation cancers indicate MICRO FUSION HYDROGEN devices may have been used to remove the internal steel framework and collapse the towers. The aftermath of the twin towers demolition reveals a heat source which is not even addressed by the official 911 Commission's report. Video tape shows bright explosive flashes. Nearby cars are turned into charred wrecks but not crushed by falling debris. A military expert in Finland concludes that small nuclear devices were involved in the destruction of the twin towers.
No, I asked you what you saw happen to the core as you were watching the video. That is, did you as I did watch them literally and quite clearly disintegrate?
If you set the resolution to high on the video I posted, and expand it to full screen, you can see a myraid number of bright momentary flashes within the dust. I don't know if those are explosions, or something else...
At about 1:00 to 1:15 they are standing there, the vertical steel core columns and they disintegrate and disappear.
I don't know if those are explosions, or something else... Nevertheless, everything else points to the use of an exotic explosive device. Especially the vaporization of 4 foot thick steel columns.
Yes I saw disintegration, but they didn't quite totally disappear at that point, the camera was tilting up and down, and at 1:15 it dips down towards the cloud of dust, and when tilted back up you can't tell if the core is gone or if it's just obscured by the dust cloud.
You have it on full screen?
I'd say that's probably true, and why they want people to think the idea of anything other than what they claim to be true is crazy.
I've ran it on full screen, yep.
The video was originally posted many posts back, right about the time AGLiar went into overdrive. Apparently he wanted to obscure the video by driving it off the current page. I think I'll post it as it's own thread, just so that everyone here can see it.
Yes, I see exactly what you mean. I'm sure it's gone. I saw what looked like a trace of it at the top at about 1:15 and then of course when the dust does settle it's simply not there. As is evident in any pictures of ground zero of that height.
I like this narrator's creepy monotone like maybe he took one too many valium. Or one too many of something.
Posted it as a new thread...
Great work, Critter.
------- "They're on our left, they're on our right, they're in front of us, they're behind us...they can't get away this time." -- Col. Puller, USMC
You: Judicial Watch video #1 shows the plane at 1:27, and then at the next frame #129 the crash has already taken place. Judicial Watch Video #2 shows the plane tail above at 0:26 above the tan pylon with the body being obscured by the pylon but trailing a white smoke spiral below and to the right of the tail and pylon. Very imaginative video you posted but I meant that strange thing suspended up in the air and that shiny thing on the ground and something that looks like a moving target from the fire and tiny little plane-like things flying from the left of the screen towards the blast area -- that sort of stuff but nevermind all that for now. Let's go back to the question you've avoided on why there's no engine- noise in the background of those alleged phone calls from alleged planes. Answer that first, if you can, plz.
------- "They're on our left, they're on our right, they're in front of us, they're behind us...they can't get away this time." -- Col. Puller, USMC
Whatever hit the pentagon appears at about :25 to :27 if paused it can clearly be seen. It is very low to the ground so that if it was an airliner there would have been damage to the lawn. It is sharp on the front like a missile. It doesn't look like an airliner. Too small anyway.
Creepy. From various sources: Daffodil - Narcissus pseudonarcissus; narcissistic. asphodel 1590s, from L. asphodelus , from Gk. asphodelos, of unknown origin (see daffodil). Taken in poetic use for a mythical deathless flower that overspreads the Elysian meadows. The name 'daffodil' is thought to be derived from the Greek 'asphodel' - a flower which doesn't look anything like the daffodil. Asphodels were associated with the dead, and were often planted around graves. One section of the Greek afterworld was called Asphodel Meadows; this was essentially a plain of asphodels, and was where the souls of those people who were equally good and bad ended up - in between the Elysian Fields (similar to Heaven) and Tartarus (similar to Hell). Asphodel Meadows was depicted as a land of neutrality, a less perfect version of life on earth, and a place that upon entry individuals lose their identities and become machine-like.
------- "They're on our left, they're on our right, they're in front of us, they're behind us...they can't get away this time." -- Col. Puller, USMC
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#746. To: wudidiz (#744)
OI, you should watch this one if you can.
#747. To: Original_Intent (#745)
"So, now I am a liar, a lamebrain and a dimwit." -- buckeroo, circa 2010-07-16 20:04:00 ET
#748. To: Original_Intent (#743)
Still, even with a hardened criminal there is a conscience and a soul buried under that mountain of justifications
"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
#749. To: wudidiz (#747)
#750. To: Original_Intent (#749)
"So, now I am a liar, a lamebrain and a dimwit." -- buckeroo, circa 2010-07-16 20:04:00 ET
#751. To: Original_Intent, wudidiz (#746)
Okay, but I'll have to do it tomorrow. I'm going to bed here in a minute.
"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
#752. To: Original_Intent (#749)
"So, now I am a liar, a lamebrain and a dimwit." -- buckeroo, circa 2010-07-16 20:04:00 ET
#753. To: FormerLurker, Original_Intent (#751)
it's pretty revealing in that the entire tower just turned to dust.
"So, now I am a liar, a lamebrain and a dimwit." -- buckeroo, circa 2010-07-16 20:04:00 ET
#754. To: wudidiz (#750)
#755. To: Original_Intent (#754)
but it still doesn't account for the dust.
"So, now I am a liar, a lamebrain and a dimwit." -- buckeroo, circa 2010-07-16 20:04:00 ET
#756. To: FormerLurker (#751)
#757. To: Original_Intent (#754)
"So, now I am a liar, a lamebrain and a dimwit." -- buckeroo, circa 2010-07-16 20:04:00 ET
#758. To: All (#757)
"So, now I am a liar, a lamebrain and a dimwit." -- buckeroo, circa 2010-07-16 20:04:00 ET
#759. To: wudidiz (#755)
but it still doesn't account for the dust.
#760. To: wudidiz, Original_Intent (#753)
Did you see the core columns at about 1:00 to 1:11?
"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
#761. To: FormerLurker (#760)
"So, now I am a liar, a lamebrain and a dimwit." -- buckeroo, circa 2010-07-16 20:04:00 ET
#762. To: Original_Intent (#759)
"So, now I am a liar, a lamebrain and a dimwit." -- buckeroo, circa 2010-07-16 20:04:00 ET
#763. To: wudidiz, Original_Intent (#761)
(Edited)
How would you describe what you saw happen to the core columns in the video at 1:00 to 1:14?
"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
#764. To: FormerLurker (#763)
"So, now I am a liar, a lamebrain and a dimwit." -- buckeroo, circa 2010-07-16 20:04:00 ET
#765. To: All (#764)
"So, now I am a liar, a lamebrain and a dimwit." -- buckeroo, circa 2010-07-16 20:04:00 ET
#766. To: wudidiz (#764)
"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
#767. To: wudidiz (#765)
Everybody gets all weird anytime I mention nukes around here.
"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
#768. To: FormerLurker, Original_Intent, *9-11* (#763)
"So, now I am a liar, a lamebrain and a dimwit." -- buckeroo, circa 2010-07-16 20:04:00 ET
#769. To: FormerLurker (#767)
you asked my opinion on what I thought of the core, and I gave you my opinion.
"So, now I am a liar, a lamebrain and a dimwit." -- buckeroo, circa 2010-07-16 20:04:00 ET
#770. To: wudidiz (#768)
Video tape shows bright explosive flashes.
"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
#771. To: FormerLurker (#769)
That is, did you as I did watch them literally and quite clearly disintegrate?
"So, now I am a liar, a lamebrain and a dimwit." -- buckeroo, circa 2010-07-16 20:04:00 ET
#772. To: FormerLurker (#770)
you can see a myraid number of bright momentary flashes within the dust.
"So, now I am a liar, a lamebrain and a dimwit." -- buckeroo, circa 2010-07-16 20:04:00 ET
#773. To: wudidiz (#771)
At about 1:00 to 1:15 they are standing there, the vertical steel core columns and they disintegrate and disappear.
"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
#774. To: FormerLurker (#773)
"So, now I am a liar, a lamebrain and a dimwit." -- buckeroo, circa 2010-07-16 20:04:00 ET
#775. To: wudidiz (#772)
Nevertheless, everything else points to the use of an exotic explosive device.
"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
#776. To: wudidiz (#774)
You have it on full screen?
"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
#777. To: wudidiz (#774)
"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
#778. To: FormerLurker (#773)
but they didn't quite totally disappear at that point, the camera was tilting up and down, and at 1:15 it dips down towards the cloud of dust, and when tilted back up you can't tell if the core is gone or if it's just obscured by the dust cloud.
"So, now I am a liar, a lamebrain and a dimwit." -- buckeroo, circa 2010-07-16 20:04:00 ET
#779. To: FormerLurker (#777)
"So, now I am a liar, a lamebrain and a dimwit." -- buckeroo, circa 2010-07-16 20:04:00 ET
#780. To: wudidiz (#778)
"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
#781. To: Critter (#485)
#782. To: AGAviator (#161)
(Edited)
Me: Would you care to comment on the strange stuff in this video recently released from the Pentagon that was aired on the "MSM" news:
#783. To: GreyLmist, AGAviator (#153)
"So, now I am a liar, a lamebrain and a dimwit." -- buckeroo, circa 2010-07-16 20:04:00 ET
#784. To: buckeroo (#235)
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[Sen. Ted Kennedy] began by presenting me with a limited-edition print; it was a vase of bright daffodils, a copy of a painting he had created for his wife, Victoria, and given to her on their wedding day. The print was inscribed to me and dated September 11, 2001.
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