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Title: The Hypocrisy and Cruelty of the Leftist Feminist
Source: The Libertarian Enterprise
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Published: Jul 14, 2010
Author: Bob Wallace
Post Date: 2010-07-14 17:54:01 by Turtle
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Comments: 38

“Feminists of the Sixties and Seventies,” wrote Nicci Gerrard in The Guardian, “have had to pay a terrible price for their dedication – most of them are forgotten, reviled, poor, and alone.”

How did they end up like this? Didn’t the late Betty Friedan but still-blathering Gloria Steinem promise them otherwise? Paradise on Earth? Of course, there is oftentimes a difference between what one promises and what does in one’s personal life – that is the definition of hypocrisy. And what Friedan and Steinem promised to others, and what they did in their personal lives, made them the vilest of hypocrites.

Both of these women insisted women follow their teachings, when they, in their personal lives, didn’t follow them at all. In actuality, they lived their lives in exact opposition to what they told women to do.

Friedan’s most famous book is The Feminine Mystique. A Marxist tract written by a Stalinist, it was about “patriarchy” and “capitalism” and “female oppression,” A best-seller and a very influential book, it was, in many ways, the start of ‘60s feminism.

Yet, when Friedan wrote it, she was married to a very wealthy man and living in a mansion on the Hudson River in New York. She was not employed, and in fact never had a job in her life – unless pontificating counts as one. The housework in the mansion, not surprisingly, was done by a maid.

All of this is of course rank hypocrisy. A woman speaking of downtrodden and oppressed women while living a life of luxury so opulent that the housework was something done by domestic servants? How could she possibly know anything about the average woman’s life?

I can somewhat understand Friedan’s hatred. She was an extremely ugly woman and most probably permanently corroded by envy, which she, like many envious people, covered up with a spurious desire for “social justice.” Yet somehow she ended up in the top 1% of the nation economically. Still, she wanted to destroy – to engage in that envious attempt to bring others down. That’s what envy invariably does to people.

Gloria Steinem, in her own way, was worse than Friedan: she was very attractive, oftentimes appearing in boots and mini-skirts, but misused her appeal. She was the glamorous poster-girl of feminism, making it seem a wonderfully easy thing to do.

In her books, her articles and her many well-paid public appearances, she insisted that marriage and romance were a trap and a delusion for women, and that they could never fulfill themselves unless they learned to be economically and financially self-sufficient.

So how did Steinem lead her life?

Starting in college, she saw the same wealthy man -- television writer, producer and musician Blair Chotzinoff -- for close to 30 years. They were going to get married, but she called it off in college. Still, she saw him for three decades.

She called her relationship with him “a romance.” People told of seeing both of them walking arm and arm in the park, and dining and drinking wine in cozy restaurants. She said this romance was about “passion and curiosity.”

For three years she was involved with Mort Zuckerman, a wealthy faux-conservative who bought her expensive presents. Now why would a flaming liberal feminist be involved with a “capitalist” and a “conservative”? Does love and money trump ideology? It does appear so in Steinem’s case.

Her friends remember her visiting fertility clinics in order to determine if she could have children with Zuckerman.

Steinem never said a good thing about marriage in her life. She called it “an ownership contract” and that married women were “part-time prostitutes.” She also said repeatedly she would never get married, and that women needed men the way “a fish needs a bicycle.”

Then one day she met a wealthy South African, David Bale. Not long after she dressed in white, he held her hand, and they got married in a park. She claimed things had changed and now marriage was acceptable. She never explained how things had changed so rapidly, when in fact she had still viciously attacked marriage less than two years before she tied the knot.

Peter Schweizer in his Do As I Say (Not As I Do) referred to Steinem as a “hopeless romantic, dependent female, [and] serial monogamist.” In her mind these things were good for her but bad for other women – if they acted like her they were traitors to Steinem’s leftist cause. Again, rank hypocrisy on her part.

Other feminists have shown the same hypocrisy. Susan Brownmiller wrote a famous book, Against our Will, in which she claimed men were rapists who use rape to dominate women. Yet she admitted she always wanted men and marriage and romance. Like Germaine Greer (author of he Female Eunuch), another lost leftist-feminist soul, she never got them. I wonder if their hostility and repeated false accusations against men had anything to with it?

People, unfortunately, are flawed creatures, and can be very deluded. While Friedan and Steinem were cavorting in the limelight and living lives of serial monogamy with very wealthy men, many of the women who believed their lies ended up as Nicci Gerrard described them.

Friedan and Steinem got what all of us want – importance and meaning and community in their lives. Yet they were engaging in one of the worst things people can do – they were lying to themselves. And before you can lie to others (even if you don’t know you are lying to them) you first have to lie to yourself.

I do not understand the blindness and cruelty of people like Friedan and Steinem, except to blame it on their self-deception (which also leads to them rationalizing their behavior). This self-deception appears to be some kind of mental illness, some sort of cognitive dissonance that allowed them to do one thing and say the exact opposite with no sense of anything being wrong. To use an old saying, the right hand did not know what the left hand was doing.

How could Steinem so brutally put down men and romance and marriage for other women when they were what she wanted in life more than anything else? Did it ever occur to her some women would look up to her, believe her, and years later find that by following Steinem’s pronouncements their lives had become self-defeating, self-destructive and unworkable? Yet I’m sure in her mind, with her self-deception and rationalization, there is no guilt and no responsibility for what she did to her loyal followers.

No one can make it on their own. There cannot be employees without employers, or employers without employees. There cannot be children without parents, or parents without children. There cannot be husbands without wives or wives without husbands. Everyone and everything is connected to everyone else, and everything else. Nobody is “independent.” It doesn’t exist.

So when Friedan and Steinem lectured about “independence” and “autonomy” as being desirable feminist goals, they were speaking of things that don’t exist This, of course, is something neither would ever believe.

Both Friedan and Steinem would have been typical leftist cranks except that they and others like them were able to get laws passed damaging the relationships between men and women. We have for many years been reaping what they sowed – the behemoth known as the State doing its damndest to destroy marriage and the family.

In the long run, none of this damaging leftist feminism will last, because it goes against human nature.—and human nature, contrary to leftist delusions, is neither a blank slate nor infinitely malleable.

Unfortunately, there will be a lot of heartbreak and wrecked lives until better days arrive.

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#1. To: Turtle (#0)

So when Friedan and Steinem lectured about “independence” and “autonomy” as being desirable feminist goals, they were speaking of things that don’t exist This, of course, is something neither would ever believe.

I don't blame these "women".

If the ones that swallowed this hook, line and sinker were too f'n stupid to realize that what was being preached was "independence and autonomy", but they were dependent on friedan and steinem to tell them how to live, then they deserve what they got: a shotgun shack full of cats.

I just love it when some woman tells me how strong and independent she is. If you are strong and independent, saying you are is downright silly and indicates a lie.

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PSUSA  posted on  2010-07-14   18:04:34 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: PSUSA (#1)

I just love it when some woman tells me how strong and independent she is. If you are strong and independent, saying you are is downright silly and indicates a lie.

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The biggest red flag I've seen in when they say, "I don't need a man in my life."

Sorry, hon, you're deceiving yourself. That's exactly what you do want.

Turtle  posted on  2010-07-14   18:07:05 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: Turtle (#2)

The biggest red flag I've seen in when they say, "I don't need a man in my life."

Sorry, hon, you're deceiving yourself. That's exactly what you do want.

In just two sentences you are confusing WANT and NEED--two completely different verbs. A woman shouldn't NEED a man around.....she should WANT one around. Ditto for men--they should WANT a woman but not NEED a woman around.

Need is so desperate......it's fine for children but not so attractive in adults.

abraxas  posted on  2010-07-14   20:31:50 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: abraxas (#4)

In just two sentences you are confusing WANT and NEED

Every woman I've known who has said, "I don't need a man in my life" has been desperately dependent on them and desperate for a relationship. Without exception.

Turtle  posted on  2010-07-15   10:46:36 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: Turtle (#10)

Every woman I've known who has said, "I don't need a man in my life" has been desperately dependent on them and desperate for a relationship. Without exception.

lol......there must be some reason why you are attracting such losers Turtle. : P

Women who NEED a man generally have little self worth and end up attracted another person who has equally low self worth. Need implies that the person isn't whole without a "relationship" to complete them. Hence, my correlation with need and desperate, like the ladies you have known.

WANT is the verb of preference, IMHO.

abraxas  posted on  2010-07-15   11:12:41 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: abraxas (#13)

I understand what you're saying, in a way, but keep in mind that the word "need" was corrupted by psychiatrists just a few decades ago.

Truth is, people do need each other. We're social beings, we don't do well isolated and without contact. Our sexual urge is our strongest impulse, by far (no matter how it is expressed or hidden). Ergo, men and women both feel a very strong biological and mental need of each other. There's nothing wrong with that. If we didn't need social contact, or the even stronger sexually related social contact, we'd not reproduce as a species. I'm not talking just lust here, but the impulse that drives us not only to mate but to stick around and raise the kid. Many species do NOT have sexes that "need" each other outside of momentary lust, and they part ways right after the act and become enemies immediately afterward.

Primates, especially Man, are opposite. When placed in isolation, primates go insane, literally. They need that social contact, in the full sense of the word need. People are even more sensitive, since we posses higher reasoning and awareness. That's why one of the harshest punishments for prisoners is solitary confinement (or in ages past, locked in a dark cell, alone, with no contact with outsiders, even the guards).

What was sold to us from the 1960's forward as "need", was clingy-ness, suffocating ever present contact, continual exposure to the point of demanding. In other words, the things we used to call pathetic behavior. But along with those definitions, psychiatry never de-tethered the actual healthy need we feel for the opposite sex. I suspect that this was on purpose. A package deal. Their main goal, after all, is to socially isolate us mentally, even if we're surrounded by millions. Then we go mad, and a madman is so very easy to control.

SonOfLiberty  posted on  2010-07-15   11:27:44 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: SonOfLiberty (#16)

psychiatry never de-tethered the actual healthy need we feel for the opposite sex

That's because "want" is the healthy choice, SOL......as I've been saying.

Hey, respect my AUTHORITY!!! lol

Actually, I agree with most of your post, if only you would remove need and insert want. Also, I think "want" is a healthier concept for relationships. Couples who continue to want one another, rather than focus on need for one another, are healthier and happier.

We all want to be wanted........but you can't say the same for need.

abraxas  posted on  2010-07-15   11:35:38 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#21. To: abraxas (#18)

I think its semantics. Actual need is there. It's not unhealthy. What's unhealthy is obsession and desperation, which your definition of "need" indicates (and which psychiatry packaged along with the traditional understanding of "need"). And I do agree, obsession (or being clingy, or desperate) is something to avoid. But we can't get away from needing each other psychologically. There are exceptions to this of course, and we call those people hermits, mad/insane or sociopaths, historically. Need (or in your parlance, "want") kept to a reasonable level, keeps us motivated as a species. We're a social species, we need social contact, we don't just want it, we actually need it to stay sane. The word "want" is not a strong enough term, I may want some ice cream, but it doesn't really affect my day or well being if I don't get any that day, or even for a year. I may be a bit tiffed, but life goes on. Put me in social isolation, and I go for real bonkers rather quickly (as do most people).

I'm trying to noodle an analogy that makes sense. Think of oxygen. You need oxygen (for real need it, or you die). If you do not have oxygen, you have a very strong impulse to acquire it, you don't just "want" the oxygen, you need it. Yet, if you get too much oxygen, you poison your system and die (if you're in normal health). So once you get the levels you need, you are satisfied with it, you don't keep pressing for more and more oxygen out of some kind of psychological desperation, you hit a natural equilibrium. I think social contact, especially with the opposite sex, works the same. Without the contact, you don't just think "gosh, I want a woman in my life" and go do a crossword puzzle. It's more intense. Once you have the contact, if you're a normal healthy person, your psychological need is satisfied, you don't keep pushing it and pursuing the person to the limits of the sky (hence, desperation).

SonOfLiberty  posted on  2010-07-15   11:55:41 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#25. To: SonOfLiberty (#21)

I'm trying to noodle an analogy that makes sense. Think of oxygen. You need oxygen (for real need it, or you die).

It's more intense. Once you have the contact, if you're a normal healthy person, your psychological need is satisfied, you don't keep pushing it and pursuing the person to the limits of the sky (hence, desperation).

This is precisely my point. I NEED water. I NEED air.

I WANT relationships with others..........and I will survive, even if the relationship does not. However, I NEED air and I cannot survive without it.

Your analogy for needing contact with the opposite sex doesn't work on many levels. Gay people, for instance, claim a NEED for contact with the same sex. People actually opt for a life of celebacy and succeed in this venture, therefor, this sexual drive is not a NEED as you claim, but a choice which is governed by free will or massive determination/conviction. Either way, people do not die for lack of sex.

What are these psychological needs you speak of? In most cases, I question the validity of what phsychology deems as NEED.

abraxas  posted on  2010-07-15   13:11:48 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#26. To: abraxas (#25) (Edited)

We *need* relationships. Or we go horribly insane. Horribly insane people, do not live long, without support from outside.

Whether you're celibate or not, you still have a sex drive, lacking any diagnosed *sickness*, hormonal imbalance or malady. You simply repress it (not you you, the third person you), and direct it towards other ends. Even if you're a happy celibate, you still need social relationships with others (or, bonkerland you go). Gay people are fulfilling their need for a relationship (and sexual-social contact) the same as heterosexual people. The analogy sticks. Even supposed "independent" people normally have pets (a social interaction). It's inescapable. It's not just a want, like "I want some ice cream, ho hum". It's a real driving need. Isolate yourself from all human (and social animal contact, like cats/dogs/etc. for a year (including television, books, media, music, etc). Everything that would even remind you people exist. Let me know how it turns out.

Sorry, but our brains are wired to need social relationships. Which is not the same thing as "desperation" as the psychiatric "profession" has told you is "need". You're working from a fad 1970's definition, put forward by Marxist psychological theorists. They want to break you from everybody, isolate you, atomize you. Once you stop "needing" anybody, they'll start chipping away at "people's rather psychologically sick desire to want others in a social context". Once you accept that atomization, you'll reach out for anything that offers the comfort you. Guess who will be there providing you with a sibling like "love". A big brother if you will.

SonOfLiberty  posted on  2010-07-15   13:44:55 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#27. To: SonOfLiberty (#26)

We *need* relationships. Or we go horribly insane. Horribly insane people, do not live long, without support from outside.

No, this simply isn't true. Hermits, mystics and yogis have chosen the loner path for years in order to seek a stronger relationship with the Divine. Nuns opt for celebacy and do fine, although priests doen't seem to succeed so much. There are milions of extremely ugly people SOL who aren't and probably shouldn't be having sexual relationships.

You are basing your analysis from your perspective, which is understandable since that's the one you have, but it doesn't fit all people.

In your last analogy regarding air, the correlation between desparate and need is obvious. It doesn't fit with for relationships. People have many, they don't drop dead without them. Some people don't have any and they don't drop dead from not having this "need" fulfilled.

abraxas  posted on  2010-07-15   13:55:54 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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#28. To: abraxas (#27)

No, this simply isn't true.

Yes, it is. Primatologist studies confirm it over and over again. Social isolation causes madness in primates. Including us.

Hermits, mystics and yogis have chosen the loner path for years in order to seek a stronger relationship with the Divine.

And almost without exception, these people are regarded as raving mad (except by their followers, who never oddly follow their social isolation paths, go figure).

Nuns opt for celebacy and do fine,

No they don't. Modern nuns are largely lesbian (or so I've heard). And not having sex is not the same thing as not needing a relationship with others. They need social relationships, which is why they hang out together. Even a "relationship with the Divine" is a social act, a subset of the need for social interaction.

People have many, they don't drop dead without them.

That's because they form surrogate relationships with others (normally, pets). We're social. It's hard wired. Even "loners" have some level of social ability, because it's built in.

Some people don't have any and they don't drop dead from not having this "need" fulfilled

They have nobody to talk to, no pets, no contact with others at all whatsoever, no radio, no television, no internet, no siblings, no parents (alive), nothing? Are they located on that island with Tom Hanks then?

That was a fun movie btw. A decent example of how people will go bats when forced into complete isolation. Spalding, was his surrogate. I generally don't take examples from the movies for much, but that was a pretty decent character study of that kind of behavior.

SonOfLiberty  posted on  2010-07-15 14:04:47 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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