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Title: Ron Paul: Useful dupe, or sincere patriot who knows he can't win? Will you donate $$?
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Published: Jul 16, 2010
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Post Date: 2010-07-16 14:33:16 by Artisan
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Sorry if daring to broach this subject offends any potential Paul cultists out there. Many people respect Dr. Paul, for his principles and long-standing track record. But the way he ended his 08 campaign, along with the 'Trotsky memo' have some questioning the validity of his run. Is it worth it to jump on the Paul 2012 bandwagon knowing that Paul himself recently told CNN that he's considering running, but knows he will never be president? Would you support Dr. Paul a second time, and would you donate money?

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#9. To: Artisan (#0)

I don't cast my vote based upon whether or not someone can win or not. I cast it based upon whether or not I agree with their political philosophy. If Dr. Paul runs for president again then unless someone else with a philosophy similar to his with a track record I can verify steps up to the plate I will contribute financially to his campaign and cast my vote for him. If this makes me a "Paul cultist" in the eyes of some, then so be it.

F.A. Hayek Fan  posted on  2010-07-16   16:21:38 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

by the term 'Paul cultist' i did not mean supporters of Paul. I meant someone who feels part of a group so strongly that they shun any discerning discussion or valid criticism of the man or what he does. I'm sure most of us here have been supporters of him for years, & are not political novices. Anytime someone cowers from open discussion in blind defense of a guy, even Paul, (or alex jones, etc) it approaches the apt cultist' title.

Artisan  posted on  2010-07-16   17:12:46 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

by the term 'Paul cultist' i did not mean supporters of Paul. I meant someone who feels part of a group so strongly that they shun any discerning discussion or valid criticism of the man or what he does. I'm sure most of us here have been supporters of him for years, & are not political novices. Anytime someone cowers from open discussion in blind defense of a guy, even Paul, (or alex jones, etc) it approaches the apt cultist' title.

I believe Dr. Paul has made a ton of mistakes and he deserves whatever criticism he gets. However, I have been reading his writings for more than 20 years now and I don't buy the CT bullshit that he's some kind of RP plant. It's far more likely a combination of his naivety and bad advice from his political advisers, most of whom were amateurs and not part of the DC system.

F.A. Hayek Fan  posted on  2010-07-16   17:20:37 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

he deserves whatever criticism he gets

fair enough. i agree that he is a good man with correct ideals & great voting record.i also read paul's material when i was a kid, my dad got it in the mail. i think his weakness is that he's too wimpy even for most of his supporters. but like you said- we work with what we got.

Artisan  posted on  2010-07-16   17:39:32 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

fair enough. i agree that he is a good man with correct ideals & great voting record.i also read paul's material when i was a kid, my dad got it in the mail. i think his weakness is that he's too wimpy even for most of his supporters. but like you said- we work with what we got.

He is definitely too mild mannered. I remember watching a video of him arguing with a talk show host back in the 70's (can't remember his name but it's that guy who smoked like a chimney and screamed a lot) but that might have been due to the host. Maybe it's come with age.

F.A. Hayek Fan  posted on  2010-07-16   17:43:19 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

that was morton downey jr & he was running for prez as libertarian in 88. the guardian angels were guests too, calling paul a liberal pothead. paul jumped up and screamed AT LEAST I WOULDN'T BE DEALING IN DRUGS LIKE GEORGE BUSH & THE CIA, RIGHT BO GRITZ!!? (gritz was in the audience). Classic clip!

Artisan  posted on  2010-07-16   17:51:16 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

#44. To: Artisan (#43) (Edited)

that was morton downey jr & he was running for prez as libertarian in 88. the guardian angels were guests too, calling paul a liberal pothead. paul jumped up and screamed AT LEAST I WOULDN'T BE DEALING IN DRUGS LIKE GEORGE BUSH & THE CIA, RIGHT BO GRITZ!!? (gritz was in the audience). Classic clip!

Yeah that's his name! Thanks. His name was at the tip of my tongue. Was it in '88? I thought it was earlier than that. Anyway, yeah that was a great clip. He was no wimp that day that's for sure. I wish he would have brought some of that passion with him on his run for the 2008 presidency.

I gotta run for a while. It's thundering and lightening and I have to turn off the 'puter.

F.A. Hayek Fan  posted on  2010-07-16 17:54:29 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

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