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Title: Ron Paul: Useful dupe, or sincere patriot who knows he can't win? Will you donate $$?
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Published: Jul 16, 2010
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Post Date: 2010-07-16 14:33:16 by Artisan
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Sorry if daring to broach this subject offends any potential Paul cultists out there. Many people respect Dr. Paul, for his principles and long-standing track record. But the way he ended his 08 campaign, along with the 'Trotsky memo' have some questioning the validity of his run. Is it worth it to jump on the Paul 2012 bandwagon knowing that Paul himself recently told CNN that he's considering running, but knows he will never be president? Would you support Dr. Paul a second time, and would you donate money?

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#3. To: Artisan (#0)

Personally, I like Ron Paul, and as a physician I like many of his positions.

Fact of the matter is the Constitution has done virtually nothing to restrain the growth of government, it is an abject failure. The Constitution replaced The Articles of Confederation, literally a Coup d'etat by the banking elites and monied interests of the time.

However, Dr. Paul is a far better choice than the power hungry murderous thieves and POS that currently occupy most Federal, State and Local elected positions, and is a move in a more positive direction than we are currently headed.

Yes, I gave money to the Paul campaign last election cycle, the maximum amount allowed, and would likely do it again if the current murderous, torturing, thieving, war mongering, lying, cheating POS would be tossed to the curb. Peace.

Lysander_Spooner  posted on  2010-07-16   14:45:56 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

Fact of the matter is the Constitution has done virtually nothing to restrain the growth of government, it is an abject failure. The Constitution replaced The Articles of Confederation, literally a Coup d'etat by the banking elites and monied interests of the time.

bingo!

christine  posted on  2010-07-16   17:27:33 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

Fact of the matter is the Constitution has done virtually nothing to restrain the growth of government, it is an abject failure.

bingo!

Oh no, the Constitution has not failed.......the people have. It is convenient to blame the document, but the blame falls upon the backs of we the people.

An apathetic nation gets the corrupt, bloviated government it deserves.

abraxas  posted on  2010-07-16   17:31:45 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

Oh no, the Constitution has not failed.......the people have. It is convenient to blame the document, but the blame falls upon the backs of we the people.

I have heard this argument before, it goes something like this, if only the right people were in power, if only we elected the right people the Constitution would provide for the kind of Nation we seek. It is erroneus and false.

One can not make a drone into a worker bee or a queen bee. Drones are drones, and live off the productivity of the worker, as in human society. Until we expel the drones, as the worker bees and the queen do each and every season, all their instruments of thievery, including the Constitution, will never change their nature. It is the same with humans, and the season is nigh.

Lysander_Spooner  posted on  2010-07-18   3:56:09 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

#63. To: Lysander_Spooner (#62)

I have heard this argument before, it goes something like this, if only the right people were in power, if only we elected the right people the Constitution would provide for the kind of Nation we seek. It is erroneus and false.

Nope that isn't the argument at all. The argument is that an apathetic people get the government they deserve.

We the people are soft. We the people are woefully undereducated about our Constitution and it shows. People do not understand that the ONLY job of a representative is to navigate the contract between the people and the government, which is our Constitution. The rest is a very expensive dog and pony show.

abraxas  posted on  2010-07-18 11:01:14 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

I have heard this argument before, it goes something like this, if only the right people were in power, if only we elected the right people the Constitution would provide for the kind of Nation we seek. It is erroneus and false.

I've come to the same conclusion years ago. There are about 280 cities in the U.S. with over 100,000 people. Open your phone book. Look at the list of Gov. agencies. Multiply that by 100,000. Try to add the numerous groups/agencies/bureaucracies,military that we pay for to it. We could turn of the whole congress. The supreme court. We could eliminate the entire flock of lobbyist. It wouldn't change a frackin thing. The system has been corrupted from start to finish.

I have said this for years, and I still say it. John Ross's Unintended Consequences is the only solution I've seen that may, just may, turn the tables. There is one other option I've never seen explored. Remove every one of the culprits first born.

Ragin1  posted on  2010-07-18 12:34:02 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

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