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Title: 9/11 demolition theory challenged
Source: BBC
URL Source: http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/6987965.stm
Published: Sep 11, 2007
Author: staff
Post Date: 2010-07-17 17:31:29 by buckeroo
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An analysis of the World Trade Center collapse has challenged a conspiracy theory surrounding the 9/11 attacks.

The study by a Cambridge University engineer demonstrates that once the collapse of the twin towers began, it was destined to be rapid and total.

One of many conspiracy theories proposes that the buildings came down in a manner consistent with a "controlled demolition".

The study suggests a different explanation for how the towers fell.

Over 2,800 people were killed in the devastating attacks on New York.

After reviewing television footage of the Trade Center's destruction, engineers had proposed the idea of "progressive collapse" to explain the way the twin towers disintegrated on 11 September 2001.

This mode of structural failure describes the way the building fell straight down rather than toppling, with each successive floor crushing the one beneath (an effect called "pancaking").

Resistance to collapse

Dr Keith Seffen set out to test mathematically whether this chain reaction really could explain what happened in Lower Manhattan six years ago. The findings are to be published in the Journal of Engineering Mechanics.

Previous studies have tended to focus on the initial stages of collapse, showing that there was an initial, localised failure around the aircraft impact zones, and that this probably led to the progressive collapse of both structures.

Man stands amid rubble of the World Trade Center, AFP/Getty Once the collapse began, it was destined to be "rapid and total" In other words, the damaged parts of the tower were bound to fall down, but it was not clear why the undamaged building should have offered little resistance to these falling parts.

"The initiation part has been quantified by many people; but no one had put numbers on the progressive collapse," Dr Seffen told the BBC News website.

Dr Seffen was able to calculate the "residual capacity" of the undamaged building: that is, simply speaking, the ability of the undamaged structure to resist or comply with collapse.

His calculations suggest the residual capacity of the north and south towers was limited, and that once the collapse was set in motion, it would take only nine seconds for the building to go down.

This is just a little longer than a free-falling coin, dropped from the top of either tower, would take to reach the ground.

'Fair assumption'

The University of Cambridge engineer said his results therefore suggested progressive collapse was "a fair assumption in terms of how the building fell".

"One thing that confounded engineers was how falling parts of the structure ploughed through undamaged building beneath and brought the towers down so quickly," said Dr Seffen.

The south tower of the World Trade Center collapses, AP Conspiracy theorists see evidence of a "controlled detonation" He added that his calculations showed this was a "very ordinary thing to happen" and that no other intervention, such as explosive charges laid inside the building, was needed to explain the behaviour of the buildings.

The controlled detonation idea, espoused on several internet websites, asserts that the manner of collapse is consistent with synchronised rows of explosives going off inside the World Trade Center.

This would have generated a demolition wave that explained the speed, uniformity and similarity between the collapses of both towers.

Conspiracy theorists assert that these explosive "squibs" can actually be seen going off in photos and video footage of the collapse. These appear as ejections of gas and debris from the sides of the building, well below the descending rubble.

Other observers say this could be explained by debris falling down lift shafts and impacting on lower floors during the collapse.

Dr Seffen's research could help inform future building design. Subscribe to *4um PSY-OP Club*

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#56. To: buckeroo (#0)

Stop all the distractions. The fact is what happened on 9/11 could not happen unless the government was complicit. Either they were directly responsible or they facilitated the attacks by others. This is not the first time the government has been involved in this kind of crap...

National Security Agency entitled Body of Secrets, author James Bamford highlights a set of proposals on Cuba by the Joint Chiefs of Staff codenamed OPERATION NORTHWOODS. This document, titled “Justification for U.S. Military Intervention in Cuba” was provided by the JCS to Secretary of Defense Robert McNamara on March 13, 1962, as the key component of Northwoods. Written in response to a request from the Chief of the Cuba Project, Col. Edward Lansdale, the Top Secret memorandum describes U.S. plans to covertly engineer various pretexts that would justify a U.S. invasion of Cuba. These proposals - part of a secret anti-Castro program known as Operation Mongoose - included staging the assassinations of Cubans living in the United States, developing a fake “Communist Cuban terror campaign in the Miami area, in other Florida cities and even in Washington,” including “sink[ing] a boatload of Cuban refugees (real or simulated),” faking a Cuban airforce attack on a civilian jetliner, and concocting a “Remember the Maine” incident by blowing up a U.S. ship in Cuban waters and then blaming the incident on Cuban sabotage. Bamford himself writes that Operation Northwoods “may be the most corrupt plan ever created by the U.S. government.”

www.attackonamerica.net/operationnorthwoods.htm

www2.gwu.edu/~nsarchiv/news/20010430/doc1.pdf

www.historycommons.org/en...p?entity=_operation_40__1

www.spartacus.schoolnet.co.uk/JFKcondor.htm

www.guardian.co.uk/world/2002/dec/02/usa.books

www.ratical.org/ratville/JFK/IranContra.html

bush_is_a_moonie  posted on  2010-07-17   22:01:45 ET  [Locked]   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#59. To: bush_is_a_moonie (#56)

The fact is what happened on 9/11 could not happen unless the government was complicit.

I am maintaining that the plans and actual execution for the events of 9/11 went very smoothly considering that the overall devastation inflicted was more than an "eye-popper."

The US government and any of its agencies or for that matter any authorized government institution(s) within the USA could not have performed that series of tragedies because 1) there are no personnel in the USA that would consider an official act of hostility or tyranny against the people and government bodies and 2) it would have been bungled and there would be later eye-witness accounts.

Your list of links is fairly extensive. I will look them over later this evening.

buckeroo  posted on  2010-07-17   22:11:35 ET  [Locked]   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#64. To: buckeroo (#59)

there are no personnel in the USA that would consider an official act of hostility or tyranny against the people

Spend time reviewing the history of the CIA, Orlando Bosch and Posada. Surely you don't believe nobody in the US government would not consider an attack on our country for political, financial or other reasons. Also spend some time reading Moron Oliver North's diary entries at the National Security Archive - GWU. This should dispel any ideas you might have about our own government and personnel refusing to engage in these types of things.

Power corrupts and absolute power corrupts absolutely

bush_is_a_moonie  posted on  2010-07-17   22:45:31 ET  [Locked]   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#135. To: bush_is_a_moonie, buckeroo, turtle (#64) (Edited)

Also spend some time reading Moron Oliver North's diary entries at the National Security Archive - GWU. This should dispel any ideas you might have about our own government and personnel refusing to engage in these types of things.

Tell me where Oliver North admits anywhere to plotting and killing Americans.

I have never questioned whether there are are Americans within the various centers of power who were willing to look the other way to allow 911 to happen, from someone who had already spent a decade gradually escalating lethal worldwide attacks that took hundreds of lives and scores of American lives.

Neither is over one fourth of America's general population. Where they and I draw the line is a blanket pronouncement that a government that can't even run itself, somehow ran the largest conspiracy with world history with perfect precision without zero credible forensic or first hand eyewitness evidence of it to this day.

You Six Percenters are always going with the most extreme and most unprovable scenarios. This is a classic symptom of a false front operative who seeks to marginalize opposition into indefensible positions.

AGAviator  posted on  2010-07-18   11:45:07 ET  [Locked]   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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#147. To: AGAviator (#135)

What are you jabbering about?

bush_is_a_moonie  posted on  2010-07-18 16:10:48 ET  [Locked]   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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