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Title: 9/11 demolition theory challenged
Source: BBC
URL Source: http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/6987965.stm
Published: Sep 11, 2007
Author: staff
Post Date: 2010-07-17 17:31:29 by buckeroo
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An analysis of the World Trade Center collapse has challenged a conspiracy theory surrounding the 9/11 attacks.

The study by a Cambridge University engineer demonstrates that once the collapse of the twin towers began, it was destined to be rapid and total.

One of many conspiracy theories proposes that the buildings came down in a manner consistent with a "controlled demolition".

The study suggests a different explanation for how the towers fell.

Over 2,800 people were killed in the devastating attacks on New York.

After reviewing television footage of the Trade Center's destruction, engineers had proposed the idea of "progressive collapse" to explain the way the twin towers disintegrated on 11 September 2001.

This mode of structural failure describes the way the building fell straight down rather than toppling, with each successive floor crushing the one beneath (an effect called "pancaking").

Resistance to collapse

Dr Keith Seffen set out to test mathematically whether this chain reaction really could explain what happened in Lower Manhattan six years ago. The findings are to be published in the Journal of Engineering Mechanics.

Previous studies have tended to focus on the initial stages of collapse, showing that there was an initial, localised failure around the aircraft impact zones, and that this probably led to the progressive collapse of both structures.

Man stands amid rubble of the World Trade Center, AFP/Getty Once the collapse began, it was destined to be "rapid and total" In other words, the damaged parts of the tower were bound to fall down, but it was not clear why the undamaged building should have offered little resistance to these falling parts.

"The initiation part has been quantified by many people; but no one had put numbers on the progressive collapse," Dr Seffen told the BBC News website.

Dr Seffen was able to calculate the "residual capacity" of the undamaged building: that is, simply speaking, the ability of the undamaged structure to resist or comply with collapse.

His calculations suggest the residual capacity of the north and south towers was limited, and that once the collapse was set in motion, it would take only nine seconds for the building to go down.

This is just a little longer than a free-falling coin, dropped from the top of either tower, would take to reach the ground.

'Fair assumption'

The University of Cambridge engineer said his results therefore suggested progressive collapse was "a fair assumption in terms of how the building fell".

"One thing that confounded engineers was how falling parts of the structure ploughed through undamaged building beneath and brought the towers down so quickly," said Dr Seffen.

The south tower of the World Trade Center collapses, AP Conspiracy theorists see evidence of a "controlled detonation" He added that his calculations showed this was a "very ordinary thing to happen" and that no other intervention, such as explosive charges laid inside the building, was needed to explain the behaviour of the buildings.

The controlled detonation idea, espoused on several internet websites, asserts that the manner of collapse is consistent with synchronised rows of explosives going off inside the World Trade Center.

This would have generated a demolition wave that explained the speed, uniformity and similarity between the collapses of both towers.

Conspiracy theorists assert that these explosive "squibs" can actually be seen going off in photos and video footage of the collapse. These appear as ejections of gas and debris from the sides of the building, well below the descending rubble.

Other observers say this could be explained by debris falling down lift shafts and impacting on lower floors during the collapse.

Dr Seffen's research could help inform future building design. Subscribe to *4um PSY-OP Club*

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#237. To: buckeroo (#0)

His calculations suggest the residual capacity of the north and south towers was limited, and that once the collapse was set in motion, it would take only nine seconds for the building to go down.

This is just a little longer than a free-falling coin, dropped from the top of either tower, would take to reach the ground.

Actually a free fall from the 110th floor would have taken 9.22 seconds.

Wow, the towers fell FASTER than free falling objects, like being sucked into a huge vacuum cleaner.

Amazing.

FormerLurker  posted on  2010-07-19   7:59:34 ET  [Locked]   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#246. To: FormerLurker (#237)

Actually a free fall from the 110th floor would have taken 9.22 seconds.

Show me your calculation and/or source material.

buckeroo  posted on  2010-07-19   12:13:29 ET  [Locked]   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#248. To: buckeroo (#246)

Oh and BTW buck, those equations don't take into consideration air resistance, so free fall from that height would have taken a bit longer, depending on the aerodynamics of the object.

FormerLurker  posted on  2010-07-19   13:00:31 ET  [Locked]   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#250. To: FormerLurker (#248)

?

buckeroo  posted on  2010-07-19   15:14:47 ET  [Locked]   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#254. To: buckeroo (#250)

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In other words, the equations show how long it would take for an object to all through an ideal medium, ie. a vacuum with no air.

With air resistance, the time increases. If you drop a spherical rock the delay is minimal, whereas if you drop a section of wood or sheet metal the time increases due to the air resistance encountered during the fall.

Bottom line is, the SHORTEST possible time for free fall from the top of the WTC was 9.202 seconds for WTC2, 9.222 seconds for WTC1.

Actual times would be somewhat greater due to air resistance, depending on the shape of the object falling.

FormerLurker  posted on  2010-07-19   16:12:51 ET  [Locked]   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#257. To: FormerLurker (#254)

Bottom line is, the SHORTEST possible time for free fall from the top of the WTC was 9.202 seconds for WTC2, 9.222 seconds for WTC1.

That is a theoretical calculation not taking into account the facts; the facts categorically prove that you are WRONG by assuming the 110th floor. The moment of impact was on not the top floors but sandwiched underneath..... and the actual time took 65.5% and 47.3% longer than those of a free fall of the upper part of each tower.

What does this mean? That the internal resistive effects of the lower floors resisted the "crush down" phase of the collapse.

Where are the CDs?

buckeroo  posted on  2010-07-19   16:20:11 ET  [Locked]   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#266. To: buckeroo (#257)

Wow, you really believe it'd take the same or LESS time for the top to hit the ground than the lower floors should have, eh?

FormerLurker  posted on  2010-07-19   16:29:27 ET  [Locked]   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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