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Title: 9/11 demolition theory challenged
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URL Source: http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/6987965.stm
Published: Sep 11, 2007
Author: staff
Post Date: 2010-07-17 17:31:29 by buckeroo
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An analysis of the World Trade Center collapse has challenged a conspiracy theory surrounding the 9/11 attacks. The study by a Cambridge University engineer demonstrates that once the collapse of the twin towers began, it was destined to be rapid and total. One of many conspiracy theories proposes that the buildings came down in a manner consistent with a "controlled demolition". The study suggests a different explanation for how the towers fell. Over 2,800 people were killed in the devastating attacks on New York. After reviewing television footage of the Trade Center's destruction, engineers had proposed the idea of "progressive collapse" to explain the way the twin towers disintegrated on 11 September 2001. This mode of structural failure describes the way the building fell straight down rather than toppling, with each successive floor crushing the one beneath (an effect called "pancaking"). Resistance to collapse Dr Keith Seffen set out to test mathematically whether this chain reaction really could explain what happened in Lower Manhattan six years ago. The findings are to be published in the Journal of Engineering Mechanics. Previous studies have tended to focus on the initial stages of collapse, showing that there was an initial, localised failure around the aircraft impact zones, and that this probably led to the progressive collapse of both structures. Man stands amid rubble of the World Trade Center, AFP/Getty Once the collapse began, it was destined to be "rapid and total" In other words, the damaged parts of the tower were bound to fall down, but it was not clear why the undamaged building should have offered little resistance to these falling parts. "The initiation part has been quantified by many people; but no one had put numbers on the progressive collapse," Dr Seffen told the BBC News website. Dr Seffen was able to calculate the "residual capacity" of the undamaged building: that is, simply speaking, the ability of the undamaged structure to resist or comply with collapse. His calculations suggest the residual capacity of the north and south towers was limited, and that once the collapse was set in motion, it would take only nine seconds for the building to go down. This is just a little longer than a free-falling coin, dropped from the top of either tower, would take to reach the ground. 'Fair assumption' The University of Cambridge engineer said his results therefore suggested progressive collapse was "a fair assumption in terms of how the building fell". "One thing that confounded engineers was how falling parts of the structure ploughed through undamaged building beneath and brought the towers down so quickly," said Dr Seffen. The south tower of the World Trade Center collapses, AP Conspiracy theorists see evidence of a "controlled detonation" He added that his calculations showed this was a "very ordinary thing to happen" and that no other intervention, such as explosive charges laid inside the building, was needed to explain the behaviour of the buildings. The controlled detonation idea, espoused on several internet websites, asserts that the manner of collapse is consistent with synchronised rows of explosives going off inside the World Trade Center. This would have generated a demolition wave that explained the speed, uniformity and similarity between the collapses of both towers. Conspiracy theorists assert that these explosive "squibs" can actually be seen going off in photos and video footage of the collapse. These appear as ejections of gas and debris from the sides of the building, well below the descending rubble. Other observers say this could be explained by debris falling down lift shafts and impacting on lower floors during the collapse. Dr Seffen's research could help inform future building design.
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#11. To: buckeroo (#0)
Fair assumption for idiots, but a damn dumb one for anyone else.
God is always good!
No facts? Just a silly post?
"we ought to lay off the criticism" -- Pinguinite, circa 2010-05-26 22:17:22 ET
No facts? Just another silly post?
"we ought to lay off the criticism" -- Pinguinite, circa 2010-05-26 22:17:22 ET
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The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one.
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The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one.
lol this is a joke, right?
But Wud......the article says: "The study suggests" It suggests that it all happened as the government claims sort of, not really in a definative manner but surely in a suggestive manner. And, derb nub it, that's good enough for Buck.
"The conscious and intelligent manipulation of the organized habits and opinions of the masses is an important element in democratic society. Those who manipulate this unseen mechanism of society constitute an invisible government which is the true ruling power of our country. ... We are governed, our minds are molded, our tastes formed, our ideas suggested, largely by men we have never heard of." Edward Bernays, Father of Public Relations
Oh, it's just a suggestion? Well, that certainly makes it much more easy to accept.
I'll throw out the Twin Towers and focus on WTC 7, thank you. It's plenty all by itself...
lol.........I just noticed your newly minted tagline too. And, I like my suggestions to be served with a grain of salt.
"The conscious and intelligent manipulation of the organized habits and opinions of the masses is an important element in democratic society. Those who manipulate this unseen mechanism of society constitute an invisible government which is the true ruling power of our country. ... We are governed, our minds are molded, our tastes formed, our ideas suggested, largely by men we have never heard of." Edward Bernays, Father of Public Relations
But the results of WTC7 were a function of the twin towers earlier collapse. And the trigger mechanism is not the same.
"we ought to lay off the criticism" -- Pinguinite, circa 2010-05-26 22:17:22 ET
Previously molten metal was found "flowing like lava" by the FDNY in the basements of all 3 WTC High-rises. Hydrocarbon fires can burn at a maximum temperature of 1,800°F which is about 1,000° short of the beginning melting temperature of steel. Where did the molten metal come from? Why do FEMA and NIST deny its existence? The 4- to 20-ton steel columns & beams were broken apart at bolted and welded connections and ejected laterally up to 500 feet. This is the World Trade Center exploding. This is an acknowledged explosion. Can you tell the difference? Bump.
lol........what "function" and what "trigger mechanism" are you referring to Buck?
"The conscious and intelligent manipulation of the organized habits and opinions of the masses is an important element in democratic society. Those who manipulate this unseen mechanism of society constitute an invisible government which is the true ruling power of our country. ... We are governed, our minds are molded, our tastes formed, our ideas suggested, largely by men we have never heard of." Edward Bernays, Father of Public Relations
Thanks buddy.
Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end. He (Gordon Duff) also implies that forcibly removing Obama, a Constitution-hating, on-the-down-low, crackhead Communist, is an attack on America, Mom, and apple pie. I swear these military people are worse than useless. Just look around at the condition of the country and tell me if they have fulfilled their oaths to protect the nation from all enemies foreign and domestic. In the demolition industry, "pull" a building means "pull down with cables," not "explode with explosives." Silverstein of course, in his phone con with Fire Chief Daniel Nigro, uses "pull" to mean "pull the firefighters back because we've already had a terrible loss of life"
---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- I slip in with a very quick debunk on this one... The insurmountable problem with this explanation of Silverstein’s statement is that there were no firefighters inside WTC 7. Dr. Shyam Sunder, of the National Institutes of Standards and Technology (NIST), which investigated the collapse of WTC 7, is quoted in Popular Mechanics (9/11: Debunking the Myths, March, 2005) as saying: “There was no firefighting in WTC 7”. The FEMA report on the collapses, from May, 2002, also says about the WTC 7 collapse: “no manual firefighting operations were taken by FDNY”. And an article by James Glanz in the New York Times on November 29, 2001 says about WTC 7: “By 11:30 a.m., the fire commander in charge of that area, Assistant Chief Frank Fellini, ordered firefighters away from it for safety reasons.” http://thewebfairy.com/killtown/wtc7/archive/nytimes_112901.html
"The conscious and intelligent manipulation of the organized habits and opinions of the masses is an important element in democratic society. Those who manipulate this unseen mechanism of society constitute an invisible government which is the true ruling power of our country. ... We are governed, our minds are molded, our tastes formed, our ideas suggested, largely by men we have never heard of." Edward Bernays, Father of Public Relations
Another little debunking of this notion that "pull it" doesn't mean demolish the building: Some defenders of the official 9/11 story say that the term “pull it” is not demolition lingo for “bring it down by controlled demolition”. However, the same PBS video in which Silverstein makes his admission, contains the following exchange: (unidentified construction worker): “Hello? Oh, we’re getting ready to pull building six.” Luis Mendes, NYC Dept of Design and Construction: “We had to be very careful how we demolished building six. We were worried about the building six coming down and then damaging the slurry walls, so we wanted that particular building to fall within a certain area”.
"The conscious and intelligent manipulation of the organized habits and opinions of the masses is an important element in democratic society. Those who manipulate this unseen mechanism of society constitute an invisible government which is the true ruling power of our country. ... We are governed, our minds are molded, our tastes formed, our ideas suggested, largely by men we have never heard of." Edward Bernays, Father of Public Relations
I'll stack a thousand engineers and architects up against your one...
"The conscious and intelligent manipulation of the organized habits and opinions of the masses is an important element in democratic society. Those who manipulate this unseen mechanism of society constitute an invisible government which is the true ruling power of our country. ... We are governed, our minds are molded, our tastes formed, our ideas suggested, largely by men we have never heard of." Edward Bernays, Father of Public Relations
Sightings of “pools of molten metal” within the rubble pile, purportedly produced by planted thermite- based incendiary devices. But all of the supposed evidence is entirely anecdotal, and is refuted by the facts in the NIST 2005 report. You can read this report by NIST in two separate pdfs: Volume 1 and Volume 2 .....
"we ought to lay off the criticism" -- Pinguinite, circa 2010-05-26 22:17:22 ET
Bullshit. When you want to get shredded (again) let me know. I don't need the Twin Towers (or actually even #7) to convince me beyond a shadow of a doubt that there was mass collusion across the government spectrum to pull off this false flag crime against US.
God bless you for spending your precious time engaging serial spinners like AGitprop and bohicAROO...intellectually dishonest posters don't excite me so much anymore, especially when frauds like these have been shown on many occasions to be less than honest, at the very least.
Let's assume you are correct. Beyond circumstantial evidence .... hearsay .... and all those websites that collaborate in a similar way ..... can you provide one insider witness who (or simple testimony) was involved in the planning and execution of the activities in any way?
"we ought to lay off the criticism" -- Pinguinite, circa 2010-05-26 22:17:22 ET
There was one relating to building 7. Can't remember his name. Anyway he was disappeared before he could testify. He wasn't involved in the planning but witnessed what happened with building 7.
Name calling is juvenile.
"Keep your eye on that building. It'll be coming down...The structural integrity is not there."
---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- not to pigs like you Remember Barry Jennings ? Who is Barry Jennings ??
The pools of molten metal within rubble piles were caused by firefighters post crash constantly spraying the debris with water. Putting water onto iron heated above 300-400 degrees creates an exothermic reaction that was widely used in the 1800's.
---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Er, are you simply going to ignore the EXPLOSIONS heard clearly in your own vids? You know, the kind of explosions that occur in controlled demolition right before the buildings fall down......... Aren't you going to respond to the fact that ol' Larry Silverstein couldn't have meant "pull fire fighters" when there were no fire fighters in the building according to multiple government sources?
"The conscious and intelligent manipulation of the organized habits and opinions of the masses is an important element in democratic society. Those who manipulate this unseen mechanism of society constitute an invisible government which is the true ruling power of our country. ... We are governed, our minds are molded, our tastes formed, our ideas suggested, largely by men we have never heard of." Edward Bernays, Father of Public Relations
None of them - and I mean NONE of them - want to talk about Barry Jennings. At least zero HERE so far...
Off to bozoland for ya, laddie!
"we ought to lay off the criticism" -- Pinguinite, circa 2010-05-26 22:17:22 ET
lol.........OH NO!!! What ever shall you do? Buck has gone and put you on bozo filter.......oh, the horror of it all! Oh, de humanity!!
"The conscious and intelligent manipulation of the organized habits and opinions of the masses is an important element in democratic society. Those who manipulate this unseen mechanism of society constitute an invisible government which is the true ruling power of our country. ... We are governed, our minds are molded, our tastes formed, our ideas suggested, largely by men we have never heard of." Edward Bernays, Father of Public Relations
perfect, asswipe
yeah, well...i don't exactly know HOW MUCH counseling i'll need to maybe get through this. /thick sarcasm
The two towers were "hit" differently and the central core supports were damaged differently as a result. Check this out: Impact to Collapse by NOVA.
"we ought to lay off the criticism" -- Pinguinite, circa 2010-05-26 22:17:22 ET
Lol.......I have a sinister plan to pay for all of that counseling. Draft a ten step plan: How to get onto Buck's Bozo Filter. Many at 4um will open their wallets happily for such a valuable, dare I say priceless, information. They will pay double if the plan applies to AGAviator.
"The conscious and intelligent manipulation of the organized habits and opinions of the masses is an important element in democratic society. Those who manipulate this unseen mechanism of society constitute an invisible government which is the true ruling power of our country. ... We are governed, our minds are molded, our tastes formed, our ideas suggested, largely by men we have never heard of." Edward Bernays, Father of Public Relations
At least zero HERE so far... That was the one. Sigh yes no one ever brings him up. New Information on the Death of 911 Eyewitness Barry Jennings By Jack Blood www.wFUradio.com www.deadlinelive.info Barry Jennings, a key 9/11 eyewitness who was an emergency coordinator for the New York Housing Authority, passed away last August 2008 at age 53 from undisclosed circumstances. Mr. Jennings was an eyewitness to the devastation of the World Trade center towers on September 11th 2001. On the morning of 911 Barry Jennings with Michael Hess, (one of Rudy Giuliani’s highest ranking appointed officials, New York city’s corporation counsel), entered the famed Building 7. It was just after the first attack on the North tower, but before the second plane hit the South Tower, when Barry Jennings escorted Michael Hess to the World Trade Center Tower 7. Mr. Jennings recalls a large number of police officers in the lobby of WTC 7 when they arrived. The two men went up to the 23rd floor, but could not get in, so they went back to the lobby and the police took them up in the freight elevator for a second try. When they arrived on level 23, at the Office of Emergency Management (FEMA),) they found it had been recently deserted, “coffee that was on the desk, smoke was still coming off the coffee, I saw half eaten sandwiches”. At that point he made some phone calls, and an un-named individual told them to “leave, and leave right away”. Jennings and Hess then proceeded to the stairs, and made it to level 6, when there was an explosion, and the stairwell collapsed from under their feet, Mr. Jennings was actually hanging, and had to climb back up. They made it back up to level 8, where Barry Jennings had a view of the twin towers, both buildings were still standing. This is an important detail, as many debunkers have used Mr. Jennings statements out of context to claim the damage came to WTC 7 from the towers collapsing, not the case according, to Mr. Jennings. When they made it to the lobby, Mr. Jennings found it destroyed and littered with dead bodies. He said it looked like, “King Kong had came through it and stepped on it, (it was) so destroyed, I didn’t know where I was. So destroyed that they had to take me out through a hole in the wall, that I believe the fire department made to get me out.” Shortly after he made it out, he was seen on several news channels telling his story. Mr. Jennings was admittedly confused as to why Building 7 had to come down at all, and does not accept the official reason that the noises he heard were from a fuel oil tank, “I know what I heard, I heard explosions”. Jennings testimony was recorded by Loose Change for the Final Cut version of the extremely popular documentary, but was edited out at the final stage due to Jennings misgivings about losing his job, and endangering his family. The BBC later interviewed Jennings for a “911 debunking special” and Jennings seemed to retract the testimony given to Loose Change. Subsequently the creators of the film released the original interview to protect their own credibility. Barry Jennings passed away shortly thereafter and coincidentally just a few days before the long awaited NIST report on Building 7 was released to the public. It is quite possible that Jennings would have exposed the cover story of NIST, and their overall excuse that the 47 story building was the first and only skyscraper felled by fire. He never got that chance. New Information Yesterday, April 15th 2009 I was contacted by “Loose Change” director, and narrator Dylan Avery who said that he had recently begun investigating the death of Barry Jennings, and had found some new information relating to his death. It seems that there is a very good possibility that Jennings’ death could have been due to foul play. Though the investigations are on going, initial findings are somewhat alarming. The conclusion is still forthcoming, but I was shocked by what I heard. It seems that Dylan had hired a private investigator to look into Jennings death which remains shrouded in mystery. His motive was simply to bring some closure to the life of Barry Jennings, and in doing so to honor the memory of this brave American. The Investigator ended up referring the case to Law enforcement before refunding his pay, and told Dylan never to contact him again. Very unusual to say the least. Dylan also paid a visit to the Jennings home. He found it vacant and for sale. Personally, something is really beginning to stink here. Why would a highly paid PI refuse to continue his investigation? Why did he refer the matter to police? He is not talking. What is he afraid of. Was he warned to cease and desist? If so by whom? These are some of the new questions revolving around the Jennings case. In every major cover up from the JFK assassination to Iran Contra, we can see one common thread. The untimely death of eyewitnesses. Barry Jennings was not only an important and most credible eyewitness, but he openly refuted much of the government, and media version of events. He was a liability. Name calling is juvenile.
Barry Jennings RIP None of these neobuttlickers can hold a candle to this man's love of our practically dead nation.
I don't understand your post. If Jennings had entered WTC7 after the North tower collapsed why wouldn't there be pandemonium throughout the area, EVERYWHERE?
"we ought to lay off the criticism" -- Pinguinite, circa 2010-05-26 22:17:22 ET
What type of plane hit WTC 7 again? You know, the one that the BBC reported had collapsed 25 minutes before it did. Check this out: THE WTC WAS DESIGNED TO SURVIVE THE IMPACT OF A BOEING 767
"One of the least understood strategies of the world revolution now moving rapidly toward its goal is the use of mind control as a major means of obtaining the consent of the people who will be subjects of the New World Order." K.M. Heaton, The National Educator
Oh, de humanity!! D@mn! Rotara has always been lucky!
Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end. He (Gordon Duff) also implies that forcibly removing Obama, a Constitution-hating, on-the-down-low, crackhead Communist, is an attack on America, Mom, and apple pie. I swear these military people are worse than useless. Just look around at the condition of the country and tell me if they have fulfilled their oaths to protect the nation from all enemies foreign and domestic. You will get over it in the fullness of time. It might take as long as three nanoseconds but I know that the clouds will break and the sun will shine for you again. Hang in there.
Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end. He (Gordon Duff) also implies that forcibly removing Obama, a Constitution-hating, on-the-down-low, crackhead Communist, is an attack on America, Mom, and apple pie. I swear these military people are worse than useless. Just look around at the condition of the country and tell me if they have fulfilled their oaths to protect the nation from all enemies foreign and domestic.
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#12. To: RickyJ (#10)
Challenged by morons and stooges, who cares?
#13. To: RickyJ (#11)
Fair assumption for idiots, but a damn dumb one for anyone else.
#14. To: buckeroo (#0)
#15. To: buckeroo (#0)
#16. To: All (#3)
Crush-up phase
"So, now I am a liar, a lamebrain and a dimwit." -- buckeroo, circa 2010-07-16 20:04:00 ET
#17. To: wudidiz, Buckeroo (#16)
#18. To: abraxas (#17)
"So, now I am a liar, a lamebrain and a dimwit." -- buckeroo, circa 2010-07-16 20:04:00 ET
#19. To: buckeroo (#6)
"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams 
#20. To: wudidiz (#18)
#21. To: Rotara (#19)
It's plenty all by itself...
#22. To: James Deffenbach (#9)
Jet fuel doesn't do this:
"So, now I am a liar, a lamebrain and a dimwit." -- buckeroo, circa 2010-07-16 20:04:00 ET
#23. To: buckeroo (#21)
But the results of WTC7 were a function of the twin towers earlier collapse. And the trigger mechanism is not the same.
#24. To: wudidiz (#22)
Lord Acton
OsamaBinGoldstein posted on 2010-05-25 9:39:59 ET (2 images) Reply Trace
#25. To: Rotara, buckeroo, turtle (#5)
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'Pull it !' by Larry Silverstein and the WTC 7 singers
One of the major consequences of the 9/11 movement has been to draw enormous amounts of energy and effort away from activism directed to real and ongoing crimes of state, and their institutional background, crimes that are far more serious than blowing up the WTC would be, if there were any credibility to that thesis. That is, I suspect, why the 9/11 movement is treated far more tolerantly by centers of power than is the norm for serious critical and activist work....Noam Chomsky
#26. To: AGAviator (#25)
#27. To: AGAviator (#25)
#28. To: buckeroo (#0)
#29. To: wudidiz, James Deffenbach, Original_Intent, AGAviator (#22)
Jet fuel doesn't do this ....... (etc)
#30. To: buckeroo (#21)
"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams
#31. To: abraxas (#23)
lol........what "function" and what "trigger mechanism" are you referring to Buck?
"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams
#32. To: Rotara (#30)
I don't need the Twin Towers (or actually even #7) to convince me beyond a shadow of a doubt that there was mass collusion across the government spectrum to pull off this false flag crime against US.
#33. To: buckeroo, Rotara (#32)
..... can you provide one insider witness who (or simple testimony) was involved in the planning and execution of the activities in any way?
#34. To: abraxas, buckeroo, turtle (#26)
One of the major consequences of the 9/11 movement has been to draw enormous amounts of energy and effort away from activism directed to real and ongoing crimes of state, and their institutional background, crimes that are far more serious than blowing up the WTC would be, if there were any credibility to that thesis. That is, I suspect, why the 9/11 movement is treated far more tolerantly by centers of power than is the norm for serious critical and activist work....Noam Chomsky
#35. To: buckeroo (#32)
"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams
#36. To: buckeroo (#29)
Sightings of “pools of molten metal” within the rubble pile, purportedly produced by planted thermite- based incendiary devices
One of the major consequences of the 9/11 movement has been to draw enormous amounts of energy and effort away from activism directed to real and ongoing crimes of state, and their institutional background, crimes that are far more serious than blowing up the WTC would be, if there were any credibility to that thesis. That is, I suspect, why the 9/11 movement is treated far more tolerantly by centers of power than is the norm for serious critical and activist work....Noam Chomsky
#37. To: AGAviator (#34)
#38. To: farmfriend (#33)
"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams
#39. To: Rotara (#35)
not to pigs like you
#40. To: Rotara (#35)
#41. To: buckeroo (#39)
"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams
#42. To: abraxas (#40)
(Edited)
"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams
#43. To: Original_Intent (#2)
As well an explosive demolition would show basically the same signature, and the theory does not explain why one tower took about 14 seconds to collapse and the other identical tower 22-23 seconds.
#44. To: Rotara (#42)
#45. To: Rotara (#38)
None of them - and I mean NONE of them - want to talk about Barry Jennings.
April 16, 2009
#46. To: farmfriend (#45)
"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams
#47. To: farmfriend (#45)
#48. To: buckeroo (#43)
The two towers were "hit" differently and the central core supports were damaged differently as a result. Check this out: Impact to Collapse by NOVA.
#49. To: abraxas, Rotara (#40)
lol.........OH NO!!! What ever shall you do? Buck has gone and put you on bozo filter.......oh, the horror of it all!
Lord Acton
OsamaBinGoldstein posted on 2010-05-25 9:39:59 ET (2 images) Reply Trace
#50. To: Rotara (#42)
yeah, well...i don't exactly know HOW MUCH counseling i'll need to maybe get through this.
Lord Acton
OsamaBinGoldstein posted on 2010-05-25 9:39:59 ET (2 images) Reply Trace
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