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Title: 9/11 demolition theory challenged
Source: BBC
URL Source: http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/6987965.stm
Published: Sep 11, 2007
Author: staff
Post Date: 2010-07-17 17:31:29 by buckeroo
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An analysis of the World Trade Center collapse has challenged a conspiracy theory surrounding the 9/11 attacks.

The study by a Cambridge University engineer demonstrates that once the collapse of the twin towers began, it was destined to be rapid and total.

One of many conspiracy theories proposes that the buildings came down in a manner consistent with a "controlled demolition".

The study suggests a different explanation for how the towers fell.

Over 2,800 people were killed in the devastating attacks on New York.

After reviewing television footage of the Trade Center's destruction, engineers had proposed the idea of "progressive collapse" to explain the way the twin towers disintegrated on 11 September 2001.

This mode of structural failure describes the way the building fell straight down rather than toppling, with each successive floor crushing the one beneath (an effect called "pancaking").

Resistance to collapse

Dr Keith Seffen set out to test mathematically whether this chain reaction really could explain what happened in Lower Manhattan six years ago. The findings are to be published in the Journal of Engineering Mechanics.

Previous studies have tended to focus on the initial stages of collapse, showing that there was an initial, localised failure around the aircraft impact zones, and that this probably led to the progressive collapse of both structures.

Man stands amid rubble of the World Trade Center, AFP/Getty Once the collapse began, it was destined to be "rapid and total" In other words, the damaged parts of the tower were bound to fall down, but it was not clear why the undamaged building should have offered little resistance to these falling parts.

"The initiation part has been quantified by many people; but no one had put numbers on the progressive collapse," Dr Seffen told the BBC News website.

Dr Seffen was able to calculate the "residual capacity" of the undamaged building: that is, simply speaking, the ability of the undamaged structure to resist or comply with collapse.

His calculations suggest the residual capacity of the north and south towers was limited, and that once the collapse was set in motion, it would take only nine seconds for the building to go down.

This is just a little longer than a free-falling coin, dropped from the top of either tower, would take to reach the ground.

'Fair assumption'

The University of Cambridge engineer said his results therefore suggested progressive collapse was "a fair assumption in terms of how the building fell".

"One thing that confounded engineers was how falling parts of the structure ploughed through undamaged building beneath and brought the towers down so quickly," said Dr Seffen.

The south tower of the World Trade Center collapses, AP Conspiracy theorists see evidence of a "controlled detonation" He added that his calculations showed this was a "very ordinary thing to happen" and that no other intervention, such as explosive charges laid inside the building, was needed to explain the behaviour of the buildings.

The controlled detonation idea, espoused on several internet websites, asserts that the manner of collapse is consistent with synchronised rows of explosives going off inside the World Trade Center.

This would have generated a demolition wave that explained the speed, uniformity and similarity between the collapses of both towers.

Conspiracy theorists assert that these explosive "squibs" can actually be seen going off in photos and video footage of the collapse. These appear as ejections of gas and debris from the sides of the building, well below the descending rubble.

Other observers say this could be explained by debris falling down lift shafts and impacting on lower floors during the collapse.

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#736. To: buckeroo (#729)

Why are you fucking around? Of course they are.

Why are YOU fucking around. You claim to have a MSEE, specializing in "designing high speed networks", yet you don't know the first thing about fundamental network protocols.

Just several posts ago, and in your initial response, you stated that UDP is at a lower layer than TCP, where that is flat out wrong, claimed that I am wrong, and NOW you state "of course they are" where I stated that TCP and UDP are both in the same layer.

You don't know jack, and that's quite obvious.

I HAVE presented sufficient facts and documentation LONG AGO on this thread in terms of the collapse, where not only is the "official explanation" shown to be totally ridiculous, but impossible.

Yet you've danced around, spread false info, made outrageous claims, accused us of being "government agents", accused us of being "half truthers", and have been wrong in pretty much EVERYTHING you've said.

So take your own advice, STOP fucking around here.


"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen

FormerLurker  posted on  2010-07-21   19:58:08 ET  [Locked]   Trace   Private Reply  


#737. To: AGAviator (#733)

A staff of owner/operators of a flight school, whose livelihood depends on making sure aircraft renters have valid FAA certification, trumps your anonymous internet k00kblather.

Oh so all of his other instructors were wrong, and only the one who somewhat supports YOUR view is the fountain of truth. What a jackass you are.

Again, find a copy of the FAA commercial license and put this matter to rest.


"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen

FormerLurker  posted on  2010-07-21   20:00:14 ET  [Locked]   Trace   Private Reply  


#738. To: buckeroo (#732)

You have continuously retracted your lies to me... thread after thread ... post after post.

Another one of you lies bucko.

You should backoff, FL..... I have no axe to grind with you.

Uh huh, that's why you've been blasting me with false accusations and making false claims about what I've said.


"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen

FormerLurker  posted on  2010-07-21   20:02:01 ET  [Locked]   Trace   Private Reply  


#739. To: RickyJ (#731)

I would like to see him admit that too, but I wouldn't hold my breath waiting for that to happen.

If I ever saw a significant admission of truth from EITHER of those two shills, bucko and AGovShill, I'd be speechless for quite some time.


"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen

FormerLurker  posted on  2010-07-21   20:06:03 ET  [Locked]   Trace   Private Reply  


#740. To: FormerLurker (#736)

You claim to have a MSEE, specializing in "designing high speed networks", yet you don't know the first thing about fundamental network protocols.

Yes I do.

Those protocol layers that you affectionately reference are non-realtime. Those layers are a model of an Internet or Intranet assuming you don't need real time speed as in graphic imaging from a source location to a destination.

We don't use the model as it is layered with unnecessary bit fields and defined fields that take time (real time)... it is fine for publick networks where you hope and pray your application catches the errors and re-transmits if and only if it has time within your 8088 based DOS stuff.

Please stop it. We want to see your views based on fact for the demolitions, not a casual survey of what you think is the total scope of information transmission.

"we ought to lay off the criticism" -- Pinguinite, circa 2010-05-26 22:17:22 ET

buckeroo  posted on  2010-07-21   20:11:48 ET  [Locked]   Trace   Private Reply  


#741. To: FormerLurker (#736)

STOP fucking around here.

Why are you so defensive? I created the thread. I based FACT and mathematical models on the collapse (to include pictures) from time to time based upon the same FACTS.

What have you done? Look at your own self, pal.

"we ought to lay off the criticism" -- Pinguinite, circa 2010-05-26 22:17:22 ET

buckeroo  posted on  2010-07-21   20:14:56 ET  [Locked]   Trace   Private Reply  


#742. To: FormerLurker (#724)

If you're so educated on networks, can you tell me what the difference is between TCP/IP and UDP/IP? What part of the protocol stack does the TCP component reside, and where does the IP component reside?

Niggaz Love to Keep it Real--Real Dumb

Link to Chris Rock video and has some language which would be offensive to some.

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Lord Acton

He (Gordon Duff) also implies that forcibly removing Obama, a Constitution-hating, on-the-down-low, crackhead Communist, is an attack on America, Mom, and apple pie. I swear these military people are worse than useless. Just look around at the condition of the country and tell me if they have fulfilled their oaths to protect the nation from all enemies foreign and domestic.
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#743. To: buckeroo (#741)

You wouldn't know a fact if it walked up and smacked you in the face.

You can't even speak proper english.


"So, now I am a liar, a lamebrain and a dimwit." -- buckeroo, circa 2010-07-16 20:04:00 ET

wudidiz  posted on  2010-07-21   20:19:07 ET  [Locked]   Trace   Private Reply  


#744. To: buckeroo (#740)

Those protocol layers that you affectionately reference are non-realtime. Those layers are a model of an Internet or Intranet assuming you don't need real time speed as in graphic imaging from a source location to a destination.

We don't use the model as it is layered with unnecessary bit fields and defined fields that take time (real time)... it is fine for publick networks where you hope and pray your application catches the errors and re-transmits if and only if it has time within your 8088 based DOS stuff.

Oh man, are you THAT stupid you think there aren't people who actually KNOW this stuff?

EVERY modern computer operating system utilizes the OSI model for it's communications, and EVERY Internet router or device uses that model as well.

It INCLUDES the Physical Layer, which includes the physical Ethernet network and devices, network adapters, along with other topologies such as FDDI, FIOS, and various others.

An old fashioned network model used by older IBM mainframes is SNA, which is Systems Network Architecture. Anything else in terms of current day network communications is part of the OSI model.

That you bring up 8088 based systems on old PC's running DOS is a hoot, as they were NOT using the OSI model, they used exactly what YOU are describing as being "better", custom applications based upon nothing but a proprietary network API, most commonly Banyan VINES or Novell Netware.


"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen

FormerLurker  posted on  2010-07-21   20:22:43 ET  [Locked]   Trace   Private Reply  


#745. To: FormerLurker, buckeroo (#744)

Oh man, are you THAT stupid you think there aren't people who actually KNOW this stuff?

Can you put your post into layman's terms? So we can see precisely what bs buck is trying to feed us this time?


"So, now I am a liar, a lamebrain and a dimwit." -- buckeroo, circa 2010-07-16 20:04:00 ET

wudidiz  posted on  2010-07-21   20:26:03 ET  [Locked]   Trace   Private Reply  


#746. To: FormerLurker (#744)

I have asked you to stop the bilge... as you don't know SHIT about REAL-TIME systmes.

Please stop it and get back on track for the subject of the thread. Or are you afraid to lose another post.... afterall it easy to provide unsupported data about any of your posts, isn't it?

"we ought to lay off the criticism" -- Pinguinite, circa 2010-05-26 22:17:22 ET

buckeroo  posted on  2010-07-21   20:26:29 ET  [Locked]   Trace   Private Reply  


#747. To: buckeroo (#740)

Those protocol layers that you affectionately reference are non-realtime. Those layers are a model of an Internet or Intranet assuming you don't need real time speed as in graphic imaging from a source location to a destination.

Describe to me what would be involved in bypassing the protocol stack on Microsoft Windows, and writing directly to the Ethernet card.


"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen

FormerLurker  posted on  2010-07-21   20:28:36 ET  [Locked]   Trace   Private Reply  


#748. To: buckeroo (#746)

I have asked you to stop the bilge... as you don't know SHIT about REAL-TIME systmes.

Describe to me a "real-time" system. Which operating system are you talking about?


"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen

FormerLurker  posted on  2010-07-21   20:29:16 ET  [Locked]   Trace   Private Reply  


#749. To: buckeroo (#746)

you don't know SHIT

Hell buck, you don't even know the basics of network communications. Yet I'm the one who doesn't know shit, eh?


"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen

FormerLurker  posted on  2010-07-21   20:30:08 ET  [Locked]   Trace   Private Reply  


#750. To: FormerLurker (#744)

FDDI

You are so deceptive about your own fucked-upped posts that you use FDDI. No one supports that old crap anymore. You better learn more about GOOGLE than confronting me on state-of-the-art technology, pal.

Still you are off course.... you can't produce FACTS on the demolition theory of the WTC .... you spin off into some sort of FUCKED-UPPED SILL-ASSED-CLOWN playing on the Internet.

"we ought to lay off the criticism" -- Pinguinite, circa 2010-05-26 22:17:22 ET

buckeroo  posted on  2010-07-21   20:30:59 ET  [Locked]   Trace   Private Reply  


#751. To: FormerLurker (#748)

Describe to me a "real-time" system. Which operating system are you talking about?

Yes sir!

"we ought to lay off the criticism" -- Pinguinite, circa 2010-05-26 22:17:22 ET

buckeroo  posted on  2010-07-21   20:31:35 ET  [Locked]   Trace   Private Reply  


#752. To: FormerLurker (#747)

Describe to me what would be involved in bypassing the protocol stack on Microsoft Windows, and writing directly to the Ethernet card.

Do you prefer "C" or "assembly language" within the MSOS requiring a device driver? If so, MS has changed their requirements over the years for increasing security reasons. Do you want the forward or backward dumps of the interrupts?

"we ought to lay off the criticism" -- Pinguinite, circa 2010-05-26 22:17:22 ET

buckeroo  posted on  2010-07-21   20:34:55 ET  [Locked]   Trace   Private Reply  


#753. To: wudidiz (#745)

Can you put your post into layman's terms? So we can see precisely what bs buck is trying to feed us this time?

Microsoft Windows, from Windows 95 on up, uses the OSI model for it's network communications. Linux has used it for as long as I know, and its big brother UNIX has used it for as long as the Internet has existed.

Buck is trying to say he's smarter than Microsoft, Bell Labs, and DARPA (who invented the Internet), and utilizes his own custom communications which somehow bypasses everything those operating systems implement in terms of network communications.


"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen

FormerLurker  posted on  2010-07-21   20:36:03 ET  [Locked]   Trace   Private Reply  


#754. To: buckeroo (#740)

Those protocol layers that you affectionately reference are non-realtime

They can be, depending on the OS and the TCP/IP implementation. Realtime systems have nothing to do with speed of the network, it has to do with knowing precisely how much time an operation takes and completing the operation in exactly the same amount of time, every time. Realtime systems don't need to be fast, they can be, but that is not required, they just need to be precise with the timing.

God is always good!

RickyJ  posted on  2010-07-21   20:37:13 ET  [Locked]   Trace   Private Reply  


#755. To: buckeroo (#750)

You are so deceptive about your own fucked-upped posts that you use FDDI. No one supports that old crap anymore.

I listed it as a network topology. You haven't listed ANYTHING, you've just bragged about things that aren't true, and made idiotic remarks which you hope will fool most people.


"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen

FormerLurker  posted on  2010-07-21   20:37:44 ET  [Locked]   Trace   Private Reply  


#756. To: FormerLurker (#753)

Buck is trying to say he's smarter than Microsoft, Bell Labs, and DARPA (who invented the Internet), and utilizes his own custom communications which somehow bypasses everything those operating systems implement in terms of network communications.

Oh the horror, more magick.

Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end.
Lord Acton

He (Gordon Duff) also implies that forcibly removing Obama, a Constitution-hating, on-the-down-low, crackhead Communist, is an attack on America, Mom, and apple pie. I swear these military people are worse than useless. Just look around at the condition of the country and tell me if they have fulfilled their oaths to protect the nation from all enemies foreign and domestic.
OsamaBinGoldstein posted on 2010-05-25 9:39:59 ET (2 images) Reply Trace

James Deffenbach  posted on  2010-07-21   20:38:19 ET  [Locked]   Trace   Private Reply  


#757. To: RickyJ, buckeroo (#754)

REAL real-time systems are interrupt driven, versus being driven by a scheduler. I'm sure buck knows all about that, right buck?


"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen

FormerLurker  posted on  2010-07-21   20:39:02 ET  [Locked]   Trace   Private Reply  


#758. To: FormerLurker (#747)

If he wants a real-time system, he better bypass MS Windows too.

God is always good!

RickyJ  posted on  2010-07-21   20:40:03 ET  [Locked]   Trace   Private Reply  


#759. To: FormerLurker, wudidiz, buckaroo (#753)

Buck is trying to say he's smarter than Microsoft, Bell Labs, and DARPA (who invented the Internet), and utilizes his own custom communications which somehow bypasses everything those operating systems implement in terms of network communications.

Didn't you know that Buck is the Alpha and the Omega of the Internet?

"The conscious and intelligent manipulation of the organized habits and opinions of the masses is an important element in democratic society. Those who manipulate this unseen mechanism of society constitute an invisible government which is the true ruling power of our country. ... We are governed, our minds are molded, our tastes formed, our ideas suggested, largely by men we have never heard of." Edward Bernays, Father of Public Relations

abraxas  posted on  2010-07-21   20:40:31 ET  [Locked]   Trace   Private Reply  


#760. To: FormerLurker (#753)

Everyone uses some model. But the OS for MS requires a device driver for the OS. It has changed over the years.

Are wiggling again, my friend?

"we ought to lay off the criticism" -- Pinguinite, circa 2010-05-26 22:17:22 ET

buckeroo  posted on  2010-07-21   20:40:33 ET  [Locked]   Trace   Private Reply  


#761. To: buckeroo (#752)

Do you prefer "C" or "assembly language" within the MSOS requiring a device driver? If so, MS has changed their requirements over the years for increasing security reasons. Do you want the forward or backward dumps of the interrupts?

I'm asking about the design, not the programming language. Tell me what you need to do down at the driver level in terms of real-time communications, and how you would get the Ethernet card to behave the way you want it to.


"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen

FormerLurker  posted on  2010-07-21   20:41:16 ET  [Locked]   Trace   Private Reply  


#762. To: buckeroo (#760) (Edited)

Everyone uses some model. But the OS for MS requires a device driver for the OS. It has changed over the years.

EVERY modern operating system implements the OSI model.

Tell me what the network driver interface is called in Windows.


"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen

FormerLurker  posted on  2010-07-21   20:42:30 ET  [Locked]   Trace   Private Reply  


#763. To: RickyJ (#758)

If he wants a real-time system, he better bypass MS Windows too.

Yep. That's why I asked him what operating system he would use.


"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen

FormerLurker  posted on  2010-07-21   20:43:25 ET  [Locked]   Trace   Private Reply  


#764. To: abraxas (#759)

Didn't you know that Buck is the Alpha and the Omega of the Internet?

LOL, yeah, according to him at least...


"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen

FormerLurker  posted on  2010-07-21   20:45:20 ET  [Locked]   Trace   Private Reply  


#765. To: FormerLurker (#757) (Edited)

REAL real-time systems are interrupt driven, versus being driven by a scheduler.

In common publick computers (ISA, PCI, ePCI, cPCI, VME etc,) determines the LEVEL of the interrupt from a device and the device driver determines its associated scheduling within the OS.

Windows which you apparently love, is non-real time.... VxWorks is .. and so are others... but who said that I design device drivers for your popular systems?

[edit: LynxOS is the fastest RT system under Sun responding to interrupts well below 8MS on average]

"we ought to lay off the criticism" -- Pinguinite, circa 2010-05-26 22:17:22 ET

buckeroo  posted on  2010-07-21   20:45:47 ET  [Locked]   Trace   Private Reply  


#766. To: FormerLurker (#762)

EVERY modern operating system implements the OSI model.

Not true... genius. Only the publick OS's perform that function.

"we ought to lay off the criticism" -- Pinguinite, circa 2010-05-26 22:17:22 ET

buckeroo  posted on  2010-07-21   20:47:38 ET  [Locked]   Trace   Private Reply  


#767. To: buckeroo (#740)

BTW buck, did you know that MS Windows based PC's can handle GIGABITS of data per second over the standard OSI layers as implemented within the operating system?


"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen

FormerLurker  posted on  2010-07-21   20:48:42 ET  [Locked]   Trace   Private Reply  


#768. To: buckeroo (#766)

Not true... genius. Only the publick OS's perform that function.

Name me a modern day real-time operating system which does NOT implement the OSI model.


"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen

FormerLurker  posted on  2010-07-21   20:49:23 ET  [Locked]   Trace   Private Reply  


#769. To: buckeroo (#713) (Edited)

Do you have any details about the demolition theory of the WTC beyond mere Internet speculation,innuendo, crap, BS, hear-say, who-dunnit based on a conspiracy website

Somehow ***they*** got TCP/IP and HTTP to ignite between 10 and 100 tons of nanothermite without leaving a trace.

Maybe we've been asking them to provide proof from the wrong places. Instead of wanting the slightest shred of det cord, or detonators, or appropriate amounts of barium nitrate in the debris and residue, perhaps a stack dump of "their" supercomputers will provide the evidence we're all seeking....

MUAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!

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One of the major consequences of the 9/11 movement has been to draw enormous amounts of energy and effort away from activism directed to real and ongoing crimes of state, and their institutional background, crimes that are far more serious than blowing up the WTC would be, if there were any credibility to that thesis. That is, I suspect, why the 9/11 movement is treated far more tolerantly by centers of power than is the norm for serious critical and activist work....Noam Chomsky

AGAviator  posted on  2010-07-21   20:49:46 ET  [Locked]   Trace   Private Reply  


#770. To: FormerLurker (#768)

My RT kernal. I deliver some of the fastest response times under the Sun.... it is proprietary.

"we ought to lay off the criticism" -- Pinguinite, circa 2010-05-26 22:17:22 ET

buckeroo  posted on  2010-07-21   20:50:37 ET  [Locked]   Trace   Private Reply  


#771. To: AGAviator, FormerLurker (#769)

Somehow ***they*** got TCP/IP and HTTP to ignite between 10 and 100 tons of nanothermite without leaving a trace.

And another spin-o-machine by FL ... right now.

"we ought to lay off the criticism" -- Pinguinite, circa 2010-05-26 22:17:22 ET

buckeroo  posted on  2010-07-21   20:52:50 ET  [Locked]   Trace   Private Reply  


#772. To: AGAviator (#769)

10 and 100 tons of nanothermite without leaving a trace.

It wasn't that much, and it did leave plenty of traces.

God is always good!

RickyJ  posted on  2010-07-21   20:53:17 ET  [Locked]   Trace   Private Reply  


#773. To: buckeroo (#765)

In common publick computers (ISA, PCI, ePCI, cPCI, VME etc,) determines the LEVEL of the interrupt from a device and the device driver determines its associated scheduling within the OS.

Did they teach you how to spell in college? An occasional mistake is nothing to really hammer you about, but you continuously spell the word "public" as "publick". Are you a US citizen, and is English your first language?

You forgot to list PCIe(PCI Express), which is the modern replacement for PCI.

Anyways, VME based architecture usually isn't a PUBLIC computer, it's usually used in military applications, medical equipment, or space based systems.

And yes, VxWorks is one of the preferred operating systems for that sort of hardware. Did you know that VxWorks ALSO implements the OSI model?


"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen

FormerLurker  posted on  2010-07-21   20:55:40 ET  [Locked]   Trace   Private Reply  


#774. To: FormerLurker (#767)

did you know that MS Windows based PC's can handle GIGABITS of data per second over the standard OSI layers as implemented within the operating system?

Sure... but that isn't REAL-TIME, Sherlock....

"we ought to lay off the criticism" -- Pinguinite, circa 2010-05-26 22:17:22 ET

buckeroo  posted on  2010-07-21   20:55:54 ET  [Locked]   Trace   Private Reply  


#775. To: buckeroo (#771)

And another spin-o-machine by FL ... right now.

Uh huh, just keep patting yourself on the back there bucko.


"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen

FormerLurker  posted on  2010-07-21   20:56:16 ET  [Locked]   Trace   Private Reply  



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