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Title: Catholic Scholar : Sheriff Joe Should Be Denied Communion for Supporting 1070
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Published: Jul 20, 2010
Author: Marc Martinez
Post Date: 2010-07-20 08:36:42 by HAPPY2BME-4UM
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The Vatican twist to the immigration issue, they want the borders open. Catholic Scholar wants to deny sacrament ritual to 1070 supporters. PHOENIX - The battle over illegal immigration gets personal for Maricopa County Sheriff Joe Arpaio. Some religious leaders are saying he should not be allowed to receive communion at church anymore because of his stance. A well-known Catholic scholar has written an article suggesting bishops deny Holy Communion to the sheriff and other supporters of SB 1070. In the Catholic church, receiving communion is one of the Holy Sacraments. In an article in the Washington Post Thursday, religious author Anthony Stevens-Arroyo suggested that Sheriff Arpaio should be denied communion over his support of Arizona's new immigration law. Now, the sheriff is reacting. "Let's not get personal about it and publicize my name -- and say that I should not go to church anymore and receive communion anymore. That's getting really personal, I would think," said Arpaio. Stevens-Arroyo printed: "Will any of today's bishops deny communion to Catholic officials who vote for this bill and its spawn of imitators in other states? Has censure been voiced against the local sheriff Joe Arpaio (a Catholic) who has led raids on Latinos? These are strategies used in the past by bishops." Sheriff Joe says it's not right to bring his religion into the political battle over illegal immigration. "I can see if something was immoral, where the church may become involved like the abortion issue -- but what's immoral about this, other than the fact laws were passed," he says. The Phoenix Diocese had no comment on the article. Sheriff Joe says he has no plans to stop receiving communion, and he hasn't heard anything about it from his priest.
Catholic Scholar : Sheriff Joe Should Be Denied Communion for Supporting 1070
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#1. To: HAPPY2BME-4UM (#0)
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The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one.
Stevens-Arroyo is a typical leftist, NYC spic, who should be beaten with a Louisville slugger until he either repents or agrees to move to Mexico.
No more magical flesh-eating and blood drinking for you! YOU are going to hell! .
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The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one.
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The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one.
Another example of why I left the Catholic Church decades ago. Once I opened my eyes and became aware of the Church's history, where people were tortured and put to death simply for not agreeing with their teachings, and the reign of terror they exercised across Europe, and experienced first hand the abuse their psychotic nuns could dish out, I realized how hypocritical they all were. They are FAR from being "holy", they are outright evil. They have ALWAYS tried to control world governments, and were once HUGELY successful at it. They are the remnants of the Roman Empire, and will not go quitely. Do they care about the victims of their illegal "flock"? Absolutely not, they simply want more warm bodies under their control, and that is what they get with these "visitors" who have no intention of following our laws, and no intention of becoming Americans.
If the sheriff supported pedophilia,homosexuality,or abortion they wouldn't deny him their communion they'd just cluck their tongues at him for the latter offense... With the standards the RCC sets its questionable what deity they are communing with.. imo U.S. Constitution - Article IV, Section 4: NO BORDERS + NO LAWS = NO COUNTRY
Jesus was big on Thought Crime. The left's claim to him is better than the right's; it wasn't much of a stretch for the churches to become PC.
"Aba daba daba daba daba daba daba" said the chimp-y to the monk.
I wonder how nobody ever noticed THAT! I could see it as an ornament at the entrance of Caligua's palace, but on the entrance of a Church???
This is unimportant for 2 reasons... Arpaio is a joke and an embarassment to law enforcement. The Catholic religion is a cult. Next.
Shame on you, didn't you know Hey-Sus loves wetbacks?
WWGPD? - (What Would General Pinochet Do?)
================================ He still IS.
U.S. Constitution - Article IV, Section 4: NO BORDERS + NO LAWS = NO COUNTRY
wow! Just wow! It doesn't say where that "church" is though. .
Click for Privacy and Preparedness files Live free or Why don't you go to Arizona and tell that to sheriff Joe in person. Then you'll see what a joke an embarassment to law enforcement he is. You'll be the joke when he puts a pink tutu on you and your ass swelters out in one of those Korean war tents he uses for jail. What are you any way? Are you one of those white guilters?
Do you often fantasize about male posters being put into pink tutus and getting hot asses? Or was this an isolated fantasy that you chose to share? Just curious. Cocoa coffee mug pencil telephone!
"The more artificial taboos and restrictions there are in the world, the more the people are impoverished.... The more that laws and regulations are given prominence, the more thieves and robbers there will be." - Lao Tzu, 6th century BC
Pity.
"Aba daba daba daba daba daba daba" said the chimp-y to the monk.
No, it's a religion. A cult is a religion without money. And at least the Catholics invented purgatory, which humanizes the scheme, makes it a little less slavish.
"Aba daba daba daba daba daba daba" said the chimp-y to the monk.
Just worship Turtle and all will be well. All he wants in return are cigars and a small harem.
"A common mistake that people make when trying to design something completely foolproof is to underestimate the ingenuity of complete fools." - Douglas Adams
Here's a thought. Because the church isn't supposed to involve itself in politics, it doesn't get taxed. Tax the shit out of the Catholic church. PERIOD.
It is better to be hated for what you are, than loved for what you are not. - Tommy The Mad Artist.
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The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one.
=============================================== HINT: The USSC majority is comprised of CATHOLICS!
U.S. Constitution - Article IV, Section 4: NO BORDERS + NO LAWS = NO COUNTRY
Screw the rcc, I'm a proud contributor to Joe's reelection fund.
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The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one.
Really? Ewe... are a'goin' uh ... ta HAYelllllll uh... toooooooooo uh! PuhRAIZE be! uh. See? I'm a ordained minister. I really am. I can tell people that. I can even use the "uh" for emphasis! Now, get out your checkbook. .
Click for Privacy and Preparedness files Live free or It's obvious you fantasize about them. As soon as I wrote my response on this thread you got all excited, didn't you? By the way, are you an obanger supporter? He's against this patriotic sheriff too.
I live in Phoenix and I insulted Arpaio directly to his face. The co-workers I was with just laughed as he made his usual idiot face and just studdered. So much for your BS.
I suggest you might want to look at the Unification Church which is a cult... They have so much money that Rev Moon bought North Korea a nuclear sub a few years back. And the Mormons aren't broke either.
what 'history' were you reading, and what agenda did the proponents have in writing it? there is more than one perspective on the crusades, inquisition, etc. More importantly, aside from the fact that human nature is sinful & sinners comprise the church (as well as saints), do you believe that Jesus Christ started millions of churches, all disagreeing and contradicting each other on numerous issues?
"if I have all faith so as to move mountains, but do not have love, I am nothing." 1 Cor 12:31—13:13 this left wing washington post writer is way out of line & clueless about actual church teaching. he may also be giving rise to scandal himself, which he will be accountable for. his claims actually deserve a thorough debunking.
"if I have all faith so as to move mountains, but do not have love, I am nothing." 1 Cor 12:31—13:13 sigh... this is the second time i've seen this claim posted here this week. it's not true. 501c3 status has never forbid churches from taking stands or policy stances on issues involving morality.. a very wide ranging spectrum. not only the typical abortion, homo unions, etc, but property rights, vaccines, freedom of conscience, education of children, wars, capital punishment.. the list is endless. 501c3 does prohibit endorsement of a specific candidate. let's not attribute power to government which they themselves have never claimed.
"if I have all faith so as to move mountains, but do not have love, I am nothing." 1 Cor 12:31—13:13 Well no, not really. I was asking you a question because your post seemed so out of place. If you had posted about riding elephants and using bullwhips on chipmunks, I would have asked about that post as well. Curious posts draw attention from regular people, and I'd hate to assume the worst, hence the question. Which you didn't answer. Clearly not, if you read my posts on other threads with anything other than anger and bile, you'd know that of course. It's fun to yank your chain. You respond so predictably. :)
"The more artificial taboos and restrictions there are in the world, the more the people are impoverished.... The more that laws and regulations are given prominence, the more thieves and robbers there will be." - Lao Tzu, 6th century BC
It was Emperor Constantine who founded the Roman Catholic Church, not Jesus Christ. Much of what the historical Jesus taught has been lost due to the mass roundups and exterminations of his true disciples, which arguably were Essenes, or Nazarines.
Still, if they assert themselves into politics, and cost me, as a taxpayer money, then they themselves should be taxed at the highest corporate rate. If special interests and big corporations can fuck us over, then churches should not be made any allowances.
It is better to be hated for what you are, than loved for what you are not. - Tommy The Mad Artist.
Spoken like a true obama supporter. You're probably a white guilter and or an illegal spic.
Nice to know you understand where I'm coming from. I know you're anti union and think the working men and women are overpaid.
The Pharisee's wouldn't have had it any other way, His blood be upon them and their children....
__________________________________________________________ Thanks. Nope, can't say I believe that. I'm not anti-union, we all have the right to freedom of association. As to what people are paid, that's between them and their employer, it's not my concern. When they bring their salary to my attention, say it's oh I don't know, $189,000 and they're whining about being the downtrodden poor trash collector, I'm not interested in hearing about it. If he/she has a problem with a salary, that's an issue for him and his employer, not something I'm going to get worked up about or even, frankly, care about.
"The more artificial taboos and restrictions there are in the world, the more the people are impoverished.... The more that laws and regulations are given prominence, the more thieves and robbers there will be." - Lao Tzu, 6th century BC
What's the matter. Truth hurt. Want to see how much of an obama supporter I am. Go to the obama.com web site and browse around. You will see hundreds of posts that says this user's post has been deleted. Unlike most people I don't support any president who does the crap Johnson, Nixon, Ford, Carter, Reagan, the bushes and obama do. You probably were a bush supporter.
Yea, sure I was. Let me straighten you out my friend. I voted for Barry Goldwater in 1964, Ronald Reagan in 1980, Pat Buchanan in 2000, and Wrote in Ron Paul's name in 2008. I actively campaigned for Buchanan and Paul and was county party chairman of the Patriot Party in Crawford County for 6 years. Apparently you never saw my rants for Buchanan on Freak Republic and on 4um for Ron Paul. I will be 67 this September and have only ever cast 4 votes for president in my lifetime. I only voted for Ronnie Reagan his first term. Being a strong union man and supporter, he pissed me off when he fired the air traffic controllers. If Jim Traficant were running in 1012 he would get my vote. I probably will write him in providing I go to the polls. I haven't voted period since 2008. If you want verification, contact Arator and Lod(wick). They know who I supported in those elections. As for bush, he certainly is the dumbest that ever held that office and a criminal to boot.
Goldwater was a person I could have voted for. Reagan - no. After researching many of those involved in his campaign it became obvious that Reagan was nothing but a front man/actor who was surrounded and controlled by former neocon/liberals of the 50s, 60s and 70s. Neither bush would get my vote - that is America's political crime family. While I agree with some of Buchanan's ideology, he is too radical in some areas. At time he appears to be controlled by a hatred of those he doesn't like or disagrees with. Johnson was a criminal, Nixon a egotistical moron, Ford was a nothing, Carter surrounded himself with many of the neocons that moved into the Republican party, Reagan again a puppet whose administration may have been the most corrupt and one of the worst in U.S. history. Bush Sr and Jr. - nothing but organized political mafia and Clinton - he was a great con-artist but he was in the same group with the bush organized crime family. As far as Freeper Site - I wouldn't go near that site after reading some of the insane, childish and moronic posts there. It did end up becoming the butt and joke of the internet only to be challenged by LP.
#2. To: HAPPY2BME-4UM (#0)
Anthony Stevens-Arroyo is an American Catholic scholar who has worked as professor of Puerto Rican and Latino studies at Brooklyn College. He has contributed to the national debate on human rights and was nominated by President Jimmy Carter to serve on the U.S. Commission of Civil Rights.
#3. To: HAPPY2BME-4UM (#0)
CHIMPOUT!
die kill ~~ Me
God is a separatist. That's good enough for me.
#4. To: Jethro Tull (#2)
#5. To: PSUSA (#3)
#6. To: HAPPY2BME-4UM (#0)
"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
#7. To: FormerLurker, PSUSA, Eric Stratton, Jethro Tull (#6)
#8. To: HAPPY2BME-4UM (#0)
#9. To: HAPPY2BME-4UM (#7)
"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
#10. To: HAPPY2BME-4UM (#0)
#11. To: Jethro Tull (#2)
Stevens-Arroyo is a typical leftist, NYC spic, who should be beaten with a Louisville slugger until he either repents or agrees to move to Mexico.
#12. To: Prefrontal Vortex (#8)
Jesus was big on Thought Crime.
#13. To: HAPPY2BME-4UM (#7)
CHIMPOUT!
die kill ~~ Me
God is a separatist. That's good enough for me.
#14. To: bush_is_a_moonie (#10)
Arpaio is a joke and an embarassment to law enforcement.
#15. To: LACUMO (#14)
Then you'll see what a joke an embarassment to law enforcement he is.
#16. To: HAPPY2BME-4UM (#12)
#17. To: bush_is_a_moonie (#10)
The Catholic religion is a cult.
#18. To: PSUSA (#3)
No more magical flesh-eating and blood drinking for you! YOU are going to hell!
#19. To: HAPPY2BME-4UM (#0)
#20. To: HAPPY2BME-4UM (#7)
#21. To: TommyTheMadArtist (#19)
Tax the shit out of the Catholic church. PERIOD.
#22. To: Eric Stratton, 4 (#20)
#23. To: Lod (#22)
#24. To: Turtle (#18)
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CHIMPOUT!
die kill ~~ Me
God is a separatist. That's good enough for me.
#25. To: SonOfLiberty (#15)
Do you often fantasize about male posters being put into pink tutus and getting hot asses? Or was this an isolated fantasy that you chose to share?
#26. To: LACUMO (#14)
#27. To: Prefrontal Vortex (#17)
#28. To: FormerLurker (#6)
opened my eyes and became aware of the Church's history
"I don't know where Bin Laden is. I truly am not that concerned about him"
George W, Bush, 3/13/02 http://georgewbush-whitehouse.archives.gov/news/releases/2002/03/20020313-8.html
#29. To: HAPPY2BME-4UM (#0)
"I don't know where Bin Laden is. I truly am not that concerned about him"
George W, Bush, 3/13/02 http://georgewbush-whitehouse.archives.gov/news/releases/2002/03/20020313-8.html
#30. To: TommyTheMadArtist (#19)
isn't supposed to involve itself in politics
"I don't know where Bin Laden is. I truly am not that concerned about him"
George W, Bush, 3/13/02 http://georgewbush-whitehouse.archives.gov/news/releases/2002/03/20020313-8.html
#31. To: LACUMO (#25)
It's obvious you fantasize about them.
By the way, are you an obanger supporter?
#32. To: Artisan (#28)
do you believe that Jesus Christ started millions of churches, all disagreeing and contradicting each other on numerous issues?
"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
#33. To: Artisan (#30)
#34. To: bush_is_a_moonie (#26)
I live in Phoenix and I insulted Arpaio directly to his face. The co-workers I was with just laughed as he made his usual idiot face and just studdered. So much for your BS.
#35. To: SonOfLiberty (#31)
It's fun to yank your chain. You respond so predictably. :)
#36. To: FormerLurker (#32)
Much of what the historical Jesus taught has been lost due to the mass roundups and exterminations of his true disciples, which arguably were Essenes, or Nazarines.
Obama is the miscegenated bastard of a white communist whore. True story.
-Schweizerische Schuetzenzeitung (Swiss Shooting Federation) April, 1941
#37. To: LACUMO (#35)
Nice to know you understand where I'm coming from.
I know you're anti union and think the working men and women are overpaid.
#38. To: LACUMO (#34)
#39. To: bush_is_a_moonie, Arator, Lod (#38)
You probably were a bush supporter.
#40. To: LACUMO (#39)
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