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Title: King Tut’s DNA is Western European
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European Times
URL Source: http://www.eutimes.net/2010/06/king-tuts-dna-is-western-european/
Published: Jul 22, 2010
Author: No Attribution
Post Date: 2010-07-22 02:28:24 by Original_Intent
Keywords: archaeology, Egypt, Tutankhamen, mummy
Views: 428
Comments: 35
Despite the refusal of the Secretary General of the Egyptian Supreme Council of Antiquities, Zahi Hawass, to release any DNA results which might indicate the racial ancestry of Pharaoh Tutankhamen, the leaked results reveal that King Tut’s DNA is a 99.6 percent match with Western European Y chromosomes. The DNA test results were inadvertently revealed on a Discovery Channel TV documentary filmed with Hawass’s permission — but it seems as if the Egyptian failed to spot the giveaway part of the documentary which revealed the test results. Hawass previously announced that he would not release the racial DNA results of Egyptian mummies — obviously because he feared the consequences of such a revelation. On the Discovery Channel broadcast, which can be seen on the Discovery Channel website here, or if they pull it, on YouTube here, at approximately 1:53 into the video, the camera pans over a printout of DNA test results from King Tut. Firstly, here is a brief explanation of the results visible in the video. It is a list of what is called Short Tandem Repeats (STRs). STRs are repeated DNA sequences which are “short repeat units” whose characteristics make them especially suitable for human identification. These STR values for 17 markers visible in the video are as follows: What does this mean? Fortunately, a genius by the name of Whit Athey provides the key to this list. Mr Athey is a retired physicist whose working career was primarily at the Food and Drug Administration where he was chief of one of the medical device labs. Mr Athey received his doctorate in physics and biochemistry at Tufts University, and undergraduate (engineering) and masters (math) degrees at Auburn University. For several years during the 1980s, he also taught one course each semester in the electrical engineering department of the University of Maryland. Besides his interest in genetic genealogy, he is an amateur astronomer and has his own small observatory near his home in Brookeville, MD. He also runs a very valuable website called the “Haplogroup Predictor” which allows users to input STR data and generate the haplogroup which marks those STR data. For those who want to know what a haplogroup is, here is a “simple” definition: a haplogroup is a group of similar haplotypes that share a common ancestor with a single nucleotide polymorphism (SNP) mutation. Still none the wiser? Damn these scientists. Ok, let’s try it this way: a haplotype is a combination of multiple specific locations of a gene or DNA sequence on a chromosome. Haplogroups are assigned letters of the alphabet, and refinements consist of additional number and letter combinations, for example R1b or R1b1. Y-chromosome and mitochondrial DNA haplogroups have different haplogroup designations. In essence, haplogroups give an inisight into ancestral origins dating back thousands of years. By entering all the STR data inadvertently shown on the Discovery video, a 99.6 percent fit with the R1b haplogroup is revealed. The significance is, of course, that R1b is the most common Y-chromosome haplogroup in Europe reaching its highest concentrations in Ireland, Scotland, western England and the European Atlantic seaboard — in other words, European through and through. So much for the Afro-centrists and others who have derided the very obvious northwestern European appearance of a large number of the pharonic mummies. It seems like March of the Titans was right after all…
DYS 19 – 14 (? not clear)
DYS 385a – 11
DYS 385b – 14
DYS 389i – 13
DYS 389ii – 30
DYS 390 – 24
DYS 391 – 11
DYS 392 – 13
DYS 393 – 13
DYS 437 – 14 (? not clear)
DYS 438 – 12
DYS 439 – 10
DYS 448 – 19
DYS 456 – 15
DYS 458 – 16
DYS 635 – 23
YGATAH4 – 11
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#1. To: Original_Intent (#0)
Interesting. Oh you have missed the new show with Hawass. What an ass! I mean big time ass. It is one of those shows where the camera basically follows you around doing whatever. This guy yells at people for no reason, all the time. Anyway, you aren't missing anything.
Name calling is juvenile.
I've been of the opinion that Hawass wanted the world to believe that the Pyramids and ancient Egyptian Temples were built by ancestors of current day Egyptians despite evidences to the contrary. Michael Tsarion (was on Rense last night) has been saying that the ancient Egyptians were "IRISH" for a very long time. I didn't hear the interview but would very much like to if someone can post it !!!
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"But if you want to continue to be slaves of the banks and pay the cost of your own slavery, then let bankers continue to create money and control credit.” Josiah Stamp
I heard some of this 1st part but fell asleep ... he was on for an hour wasn't he ?
"But if you want to continue to be slaves of the banks and pay the cost of your own slavery, then let bankers continue to create money and control credit.” Josiah Stamp
This discovery, if an honest evaluation of the DNA, is one of the most relevant and timely "revelations" ever in the history of mankind. I'm always hesitant to trust human disclosures of sensitive information such as this, but if it's an accurate one the potential for the ancient Hebrews (as well as the Egyptians) having western european connections is undeniable. (Plus it agrees with the Book of Hosea).
"But if you want to continue to be slaves of the banks and pay the cost of your own slavery, then let bankers continue to create money and control credit.” Josiah Stamp
They can build pyramids. This is a niggerian 419 scammer. This is what I used to do in the past, to play with them every time they sent me spam. But I didn't get this particular pic, that work was done by another. IT's fun and challenging to get them to do silly things like this, in the hope they will strike it rich. Playing with them to this extent is not easy to do.
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"But if you want to continue to be slaves of the banks and pay the cost of your own slavery, then let bankers continue to create money and control credit.” Josiah Stamp
King Tut, he's my favorite honky/King Tut, buried with a donkey. It's obvious the Egyptians were white. Blacks don't have the ability to not only create an advanced civilization, but any civilization at all.
"A common mistake that people make when trying to design something completely foolproof is to underestimate the ingenuity of complete fools." - Douglas Adams
Hawass has got to be in tight with the Rothschilds/NWO agenda of keeping the true nature of our history on this planet obscured. I think the "he wants to protect the Arab image, is a cover for an occultic agenda. While their are differences at the micro level there just is not a whole hell of a lot of difference between the Arabs and those of Western European descent. The Iranians/Persians are Western European originally although because of genetic drift and intermixture with the Arab population they show both sets of markers. In the original article there is an interesting distribution of genotypes in map form I'll see if it will link. If not you'll have to go to the original. Archaeologist David Hatcher Childress has also written about the links between Ireland, Scotland, and the Middle East. There are a few linguistic markers as far as names go - Clan McBee, McBay, and McAbee all derive from Maccabeus which was the ancient ruling house of Israel (and some 2,000 years later I am one of their descendents which I learned doing some family genealogical research).
"One of the least understood strategies of the world revolution now moving rapidly toward its goal is the use of mind control as a major means of obtaining the consent of the people who will be subjects of the New World Order." K.M. Heaton, The National Educator
As a last insult, Cleopatra was a Macedonian. This completely takes away the sub-Saharan negro's claims that they are "descended from Kings and Queens of Egypt!"
__________________________________________________________ Well, R1b is the predominant marker for Europeans, no question, especially Basques and Gaels along the western coast of Ireland. 3343 years ago, in 1333 BC he took the throne, age 9. So, 1333 BC in Europe had...(need to look it up)...well they had a lot of confusion. The original Irish Gaels are thought to have invaded what is now Ireland ~ 1000 BC. So three hundred-ish years before that, they were residing in what is Basque country/Iberian peninsula area. So...King Tut was possibly...and Iberian Peninsula originating proto-celtic dude? How in the hell would any Europeans, let alone the rather wild and untamed type pre-Irish, manage to get into the ancient Egyptian succession line anyway?
"The more artificial taboos and restrictions there are in the world, the more the people are impoverished.... The more that laws and regulations are given prominence, the more thieves and robbers there will be." - Lao Tzu, 6th century BC
Cleopatra was Greek(-ish)? Haven't heard that before.
"The more artificial taboos and restrictions there are in the world, the more the people are impoverished.... The more that laws and regulations are given prominence, the more thieves and robbers there will be." - Lao Tzu, 6th century BC
Even wiki dares to tell the truth: "She was a member of the Ptolemaic dynasty of Ancient Egypt, and therefore was a descendant of one of Alexander the Great's generals who had seized control over Egypt after Alexander's death. Most Ptolemeis spoke Greek and refused to learn Egyptian, which is the reason that Greek as well as Egyptian languages were used on official court documents like the Rosetta Stone."
__________________________________________________________ Contrary to the "official" histories the distribution of humanity in the ancient world is likely quite different than one might suppose from accounts founded in 19th century science. Many of the dominant archaeologists of the day were downright tribal in their approach and were as interested in asserting the superiority of their tribe as they were in finding the truth. As well the evidences for ancient high technology were overlooked because their level of technological knowledge did not include such things as powered flight or precision aerospace machine tools (and significant evidence for their existence lies in that very Egyptian stonework - of the greatest age). Even the age of anatomically modern man, as propounded in the "official" orthodoxy, is contradicted by a significant body of evidence. Statues with clearly negroid features are found among the artifacts of the oldest civilization, now known, of Central and South America - the Olmecs. Of course there are other mysteries associated with the Olmecs as well, but brevity forces a different path. As was detailed by Michael Cremo and Richard Thompson in the seminal tome "Forbidden Archaeology" there is a considerable body of evidence for the existence of modern man as far back as the Miocene (5.3 - 23 M.Y.A.) and even some in the Oligocene (23.0 - 33.9 M.Y.A.). As for Egypt, while I am not in agreement with all of his suppositions, self taught Rogue Archaeologist John Anthony West puts Egypt's rise as a civilization, and the construction of its monuments, in the much deeper past prior to 10,000 B.C. when Egypt was not a desert but was a subtropical area with abundant rain fall and water. The erosion of the Sphinx geologically dated as having had to occur prior to 8,000 B.C. (when the region became a desert) has created significant controversy because it throws the chronology of ancient Egypt way off, and yet try as they might, like "The Telltale Heart", they can't make the evidence go away or change basic geologic principles. Another interesting thing about the Basques. They are a linguistic anomaly. The Basque Language IS NOT a member of the Indo-European Language Group. As well there are ruins in Andalucia of extreme sophistication that were built in times so ancient that there is no reliable dating. Genetic markers are interesting to the degree they show the distribution of human genotypes into the occluded area of time which begins with the time of Christ and becomes lost into the deeper and deeper antiquity of man till you hit about 5,000 B.C. and it moves into the realm of a fiendish puzzle.
"One of the least understood strategies of the world revolution now moving rapidly toward its goal is the use of mind control as a major means of obtaining the consent of the people who will be subjects of the New World Order." K.M. Heaton, The National Educator
Let the chips fall where they may. It is likely that there was at least one great black civilization in the very very distant African past. Early explorers reported ruins, now covered by the desert, and eroded by the great expanse of time, that were quite sophisticated. Just theorizing - but the world of 10,000 B.C. appears to have been very sophisticated both culturally and technologically. There are ruins and structures dotting the entire planet which appear to date to that time and before. There appears to have been a great worldwide cataclysm, possibly a war, which reduced the population markedly and lowered the culture back to pre-technologic. The more I dig at the puzzle the more it seems to center around that time horizon of about ten thousand B.C.. What kind of cataclysm I cannot say with any certainty, but the Indian Vedas hint at the existence of nuclear weapons and a possible atomic war. To our current warlike leaders itching to use their nasty weapons the destruction of a prior civilization, and its import to current culture, is, shall we say, inconvenient. That is in part why much of this falls into the realm of "Forbidden Archaeology". I could go on as there are evidences that caches of ancient machinery have been recovered and, like Indiana Jones, buried away in vaults and secret installations, but kept from general knowledge. There are other elements that seem to tie in - the monuments on Mars, and that the Martian Moons are hollow - thus suggesting that they were possibly used in extreme antiquity to ferry colonists to Botany Bay a.k.a. Planet Earth. That is of course speculation, but I think it closer to the truth than what is carried in the "official" texts.
"One of the least understood strategies of the world revolution now moving rapidly toward its goal is the use of mind control as a major means of obtaining the consent of the people who will be subjects of the New World Order." K.M. Heaton, The National Educator
"One of the least understood strategies of the world revolution now moving rapidly toward its goal is the use of mind control as a major means of obtaining the consent of the people who will be subjects of the New World Order." K.M. Heaton, The National Educator
Oh, that's the guy who comes off like an arab Gordon Ramsey. What a plonker.
It's taken decades for historians to accept archeological evidence that the Vikings hit the shores of what is now NE Canada, what'll it take to get an honest dissertation of the existence of Kennewick Man??
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"A common mistake that people make when trying to design something completely foolproof is to underestimate the ingenuity of complete fools." - Douglas Adams
Well how about that! I knew they dealt in Greek language, but I figured it was because of close trading ties or something. So Cleo was a Greek, Tut was an Irishman...hey, didn't Egypt invent beer...wait a minute...it's all becoming clear now...
"The more artificial taboos and restrictions there are in the world, the more the people are impoverished.... The more that laws and regulations are given prominence, the more thieves and robbers there will be." - Lao Tzu, 6th century BC
What's confusing about the Basque Irish link is language. They are the same people genetically, and the Irish were always said to have originated from the Iberian peninsula, long before the DNA evidence proved it. Yet, they speak Gaelic, which is a very traceable and consistent q-Celtic language, closely related to the p-Celtic Brythonic Celtic language(s). The moment they touched down in Ireland they started leaving clear signs that they were speaking Old Irish (Gaelic), yet the Basque speak, as you note, what many consider the last non-European, native neolithic possibly paleolithic language left in the world. So if the Irish are the Basque, and everything points to this being the case, if your own bard passed down history says you came from Hispania originally (Milesian is an old name for Irish, comes from Milesius of Hispania, who they claim was their original founder in Ireland), and then suddenly, there are found to be an entire tribe in Hispania who are genetically identical to you, you probably came from Hispania originally, then wtf? They got on a boat, forgot the Basque language entirely, got off the boat a month later in Ireland and started hooting around in perfect q-Celtic Old Irish Gaelic (in a land where only Continental inherited p-Celtic was being spoken)? Something doesn't add up.
"The more artificial taboos and restrictions there are in the world, the more the people are impoverished.... The more that laws and regulations are given prominence, the more thieves and robbers there will be." - Lao Tzu, 6th century BC
Yes, and it is one that drives the lamestream archaeologists nuts(er). The problem with the Iberian Peninsula are the archaeologic remains is that some regard it, David Hatcher Childress for one, as an outpost of Atlantis. Also interestingly, as is found at some other sites, e.g., The temple called Baalbek in Lebanon, and in the South Americas, is that the most sophisticated structures are the oldest structures. Baalbek has as its foundation the three largest stone blocks ever quarried by man in all times including the present - the largest weighing over 1,000 tons. The Andalusian site is thought by some to be the location of the fabled Tartessos (which has never really been nailed down). An interesting book from the early part of the twentieth century, at long last back in print through Adventures Unlimited Press, is "Atlantis in Andalusia" (retitled in the AUP printing as "Atlantis In Spain"). The suggestion of David Hatcher Childress who is a writer himself, and the owner of AUP, is that Basque may be a descendant of the original Atlantean Tongue. I am not enough of a linguist to say but it is an interesting thought. Interestingly the late Charles Berlitz, a linguist as well as heir to the Berlitz Language School Fortune and a writer on anomalies, traced a couple of words that show up on both sides of the Atlantic, between cultures that allegedly had no contact according to lamestream archaeology, that shared a few common words one of which is water. He details it in his books on Atlantis. There are other interesting linguistic anomalies - such as the similarity between the Rongo Rongo script of the Easter Islands with the script of the Indus Valley Culture half a planet away.
"One of the least understood strategies of the world revolution now moving rapidly toward its goal is the use of mind control as a major means of obtaining the consent of the people who will be subjects of the New World Order." K.M. Heaton, The National Educator
That is very interesting. It would be interesting to see the results of the mitochondrial DNA as well. Hopefully someone will leak that too.
"The Central Intelligence Agency owns everyone of any significance in the major media." ~ William Colby, Director, CIA 1973–1976 Nothing in the State, everything outside the State, everything against the State - Jan Lester, Escape From Leviathan "When plunder becomes a way of life for a group of men living together in society, they create for themselves in the course of time a legal system that authorizes it and a moral code that justifies it." - Frederic Bastiat Good order results spontaneously when things are let alone. - Zhuangzi
I like the fantasy notion that I may be a descendant of Atlantians, lol. :)
"The more artificial taboos and restrictions there are in the world, the more the people are impoverished.... The more that laws and regulations are given prominence, the more thieves and robbers there will be." - Lao Tzu, 6th century BC
The lamestream will ignore him as long as they can because he doesn't fit the template. Just like they will not excavate the massive mountain sized temples in Tonga. They throw the academic world into confusion because it doesn't fit the template. Do a search on Nan Madol sometime. There are some good photos online. Tell me that was built by a "stone age" culture that had no metal and dug out canoes were "high tech".
"One of the least understood strategies of the world revolution now moving rapidly toward its goal is the use of mind control as a major means of obtaining the consent of the people who will be subjects of the New World Order." K.M. Heaton, The National Educator
www.zu ko.com/CrypticSpher...vilizations_Nan_Madol.asp Good stuff here. The Japs allegedly found platinum "coffins" prior to WWII.
__________________________________________________________ Thank you. Looks interesting and it is one I have not previously run into.
"One of the least understood strategies of the world revolution now moving rapidly toward its goal is the use of mind control as a major means of obtaining the consent of the people who will be subjects of the New World Order." K.M. Heaton, The National Educator
Interesting the coffins could still be there, or at least some of them. I know David Hatcher Childress has done some diving there, but if he found anything like that he is keeping mum. It is like the story of the guys who found a huge trove of gold bars in the Southwest. Evidently someone tailed them on one of their trips and the next time they went back for another load the Army was cleaning it out.
"One of the least understood strategies of the world revolution now moving rapidly toward its goal is the use of mind control as a major means of obtaining the consent of the people who will be subjects of the New World Order." K.M. Heaton, The National Educator
LOL I take it you agree then.
Name calling is juvenile.
Yes, based upon jewelry store prices, platinum is way more expensive than gold. It would be interesting to see some pics of anything unusual found there.
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muft.tv/watch/Video,Item, 3880802026.html I found it here after the same thing happened to me. There are 5 segments and you should listen to the interview, it's interesting.
"But if you want to continue to be slaves of the banks and pay the cost of your own slavery, then let bankers continue to create money and control credit.” Josiah Stamp
I've been watching that show, and he is an arrogant ass. ------- Yes, I wanted to just slap him. I didn't like this guy to start with and seeing him when he is...well not at his best...well my opinion had gone down and I didn't think that was possible. I missed the pee one but it is on demand so I may see it yet.
Name calling is juvenile.
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#3. To: noone222, farmfriend (#2)
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#6. To: Original_Intent, AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt, AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt, AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt (#0)
The significance is, of course, that R1b is the most common Y-chromosome haplogroup in Europe reaching its highest concentrations in Ireland, Scotland, western England and the European Atlantic seaboard — in other words, European through and through.
#7. To: Original_Intent (#0)
CHIMPOUT!
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God is a separatist. That's good enough for me.
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#10. To: noone222, farmfriend (#2)
I've been of the opinion that Hawass wanted the world to believe that the Pyramids and ancient Egyptian Temples were built by ancestors of current day Egyptians despite evidences to the contrary.
Michael Tsarion (was on Rense last night) has been saying that the ancient Egyptians were "IRISH" for a very long time. I didn't hear the interview but would very much like to if someone can post it !!!
#11. To: Turtle (#9)
Obama is the miscegenated bastard of a white communist whore. True story.
-Schweizerische Schuetzenzeitung (Swiss Shooting Federation) April, 1941
#12. To: Original_Intent (#0)
The significance is, of course, that R1b is the most common Y-chromosome haplogroup in Europe reaching its highest concentrations in Ireland, Scotland, western England and the European Atlantic seaboard — in other words, European through and through.
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#14. To: SonOfLiberty (#13)
Obama is the miscegenated bastard of a white communist whore. True story.
-Schweizerische Schuetzenzeitung (Swiss Shooting Federation) April, 1941
#15. To: SonOfLiberty, farmfriend, christine (#12)
So...King Tut was possibly...and Iberian Peninsula originating proto-celtic dude? How in the hell would any Europeans, let alone the rather wild and untamed type pre-Irish, manage to get into the ancient Egyptian succession line anyway?
#16. To: X-15 (#11)
As a last insult, Cleopatra was a Macedonian. This completely takes away the sub-Saharan negro's claims that they are "descended from Kings and Queens of Egypt!"
#17. To: PSUSA (#7)
The Great Zimbabwe - Location Africa
The Great Zimbabwe is generally credited to the Dogon People in somewhere around 1100 A.D. give or take a few centuries.
#18. To: farmfriend (#1)
Interesting. Oh you have missed the new show with Hawass. What an ass! I mean big time ass. It is one of those shows where the camera basically follows you around doing whatever. This guy yells at people for no reason, all the time. Anyway, you aren't missing anything.
#19. To: Original_Intent (#16)
Obama is the miscegenated bastard of a white communist whore. True story.
-Schweizerische Schuetzenzeitung (Swiss Shooting Federation) April, 1941
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#26. To: X-15 (#19)
It's taken decades for historians to accept archeological evidence that the Vikings hit the shores of what is now NE Canada, what'll it take to get an honest dissertation of the existence of Kennewick Man??
#27. To: Original_Intent (#26)
Obama is the miscegenated bastard of a white communist whore. True story.
-Schweizerische Schuetzenzeitung (Swiss Shooting Federation) April, 1941
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Oh, that's the guy who comes off like an arab Gordon Ramsey. What a plonker.
#31. To: Original_Intent (#29)
Obama is the miscegenated bastard of a white communist whore. True story.
-Schweizerische Schuetzenzeitung (Swiss Shooting Federation) April, 1941
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This wouldn't load on my computer yesterday; now it says "removed by user".
#34. To: farmfriend (#1)
What an ass! I mean big time ass. It is one of those shows where the camera basically follows you around doing whatever. This guy yells at people for no reason, all the time. Anyway, you aren't missing anything.
Although in the latest one, where the girl pees her pants in the pyramid, I can understand his anger.
There he was, talking about how damaging humidity is to the pyramid, while the girl is sitting in a puddle of her own urine nearby.
"Somewhere, something incredible is waiting to be known."
-Carl Sagan.
#35. To: Armadillo (#34)
I've been watching that show, and he is an arrogant ass.
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