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Title: King Tut’s DNA is Western European
Source: European Times
URL Source: http://www.eutimes.net/2010/06/king-tuts-dna-is-western-european/
Published: Jul 22, 2010
Author: No Attribution
Post Date: 2010-07-22 02:28:24 by Original_Intent
Keywords: archaeology, Egypt, Tutankhamen, mummy
Views: 469
Comments: 35

Despite the refusal of the Secretary General of the Egyptian Supreme Council of Antiquities, Zahi Hawass, to release any DNA results which might indicate the racial ancestry of Pharaoh Tutankhamen, the leaked results reveal that King Tut’s DNA is a 99.6 percent match with Western European Y chromosomes.

The DNA test results were inadvertently revealed on a Discovery Channel TV documentary filmed with Hawass’s permission — but it seems as if the Egyptian failed to spot the giveaway part of the documentary which revealed the test results.

Hawass previously announced that he would not release the racial DNA results of Egyptian mummies — obviously because he feared the consequences of such a revelation.

On the Discovery Channel broadcast, which can be seen on the Discovery Channel website here, or if they pull it, on YouTube here, at approximately 1:53 into the video, the camera pans over a printout of DNA test results from King Tut.

Firstly, here is a brief explanation of the results visible in the video. It is a list of what is called Short Tandem Repeats (STRs).

STRs are repeated DNA sequences which are “short repeat units” whose characteristics make them especially suitable for human identification.

These STR values for 17 markers visible in the video are as follows:
DYS 19 – 14 (? not clear)
DYS 385a – 11
DYS 385b – 14
DYS 389i – 13
DYS 389ii – 30
DYS 390 – 24
DYS 391 – 11
DYS 392 – 13
DYS 393 – 13
DYS 437 – 14 (? not clear)
DYS 438 – 12
DYS 439 – 10
DYS 448 – 19
DYS 456 – 15
DYS 458 – 16
DYS 635 – 23
YGATAH4 – 11

What does this mean? Fortunately, a genius by the name of Whit Athey provides the key to this list. Mr Athey is a retired physicist whose working career was primarily at the Food and Drug Administration where he was chief of one of the medical device labs.

Mr Athey received his doctorate in physics and biochemistry at Tufts University, and undergraduate (engineering) and masters (math) degrees at Auburn University. For several years during the 1980s, he also taught one course each semester in the electrical engineering department of the University of Maryland. Besides his interest in genetic genealogy, he is an amateur astronomer and has his own small observatory near his home in Brookeville, MD.

He also runs a very valuable website called the “Haplogroup Predictor” which allows users to input STR data and generate the haplogroup which marks those STR data.

For those who want to know what a haplogroup is, here is a “simple” definition: a haplogroup is a group of similar haplotypes that share a common ancestor with a single nucleotide polymorphism (SNP) mutation.

Still none the wiser? Damn these scientists.

Ok, let’s try it this way: a haplotype is a combination of multiple specific locations of a gene or DNA sequence on a chromosome.

Haplogroups are assigned letters of the alphabet, and refinements consist of additional number and letter combinations, for example R1b or R1b1. Y-chromosome and mitochondrial DNA haplogroups have different haplogroup designations. In essence, haplogroups give an inisight into ancestral origins dating back thousands of years.

By entering all the STR data inadvertently shown on the Discovery video, a 99.6 percent fit with the R1b haplogroup is revealed.

The significance is, of course, that R1b is the most common Y-chromosome haplogroup in Europe reaching its highest concentrations in Ireland, Scotland, western England and the European Atlantic seaboard — in other words, European through and through.

So much for the Afro-centrists and others who have derided the very obvious northwestern European appearance of a large number of the pharonic mummies. It seems like March of the Titans was right after all…

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#12. To: Original_Intent (#0)

The significance is, of course, that R1b is the most common Y-chromosome haplogroup in Europe reaching its highest concentrations in Ireland, Scotland, western England and the European Atlantic seaboard — in other words, European through and through.

Well, R1b is the predominant marker for Europeans, no question, especially Basques and Gaels along the western coast of Ireland.

3343 years ago, in 1333 BC he took the throne, age 9. So, 1333 BC in Europe had...(need to look it up)...well they had a lot of confusion. The original Irish Gaels are thought to have invaded what is now Ireland ~ 1000 BC. So three hundred-ish years before that, they were residing in what is Basque country/Iberian peninsula area.

So...King Tut was possibly...and Iberian Peninsula originating proto-celtic dude? How in the hell would any Europeans, let alone the rather wild and untamed type pre-Irish, manage to get into the ancient Egyptian succession line anyway?

SonOfLiberty  posted on  2010-07-22   11:49:00 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: SonOfLiberty, farmfriend, christine (#12)

So...King Tut was possibly...and Iberian Peninsula originating proto-celtic dude? How in the hell would any Europeans, let alone the rather wild and untamed type pre-Irish, manage to get into the ancient Egyptian succession line anyway?

Contrary to the "official" histories the distribution of humanity in the ancient world is likely quite different than one might suppose from accounts founded in 19th century science. Many of the dominant archaeologists of the day were downright tribal in their approach and were as interested in asserting the superiority of their tribe as they were in finding the truth. As well the evidences for ancient high technology were overlooked because their level of technological knowledge did not include such things as powered flight or precision aerospace machine tools (and significant evidence for their existence lies in that very Egyptian stonework - of the greatest age).

Even the age of anatomically modern man, as propounded in the "official" orthodoxy, is contradicted by a significant body of evidence. Statues with clearly negroid features are found among the artifacts of the oldest civilization, now known, of Central and South America - the Olmecs. Of course there are other mysteries associated with the Olmecs as well, but brevity forces a different path. As was detailed by Michael Cremo and Richard Thompson in the seminal tome "Forbidden Archaeology" there is a considerable body of evidence for the existence of modern man as far back as the Miocene (5.3 - 23 M.Y.A.) and even some in the Oligocene (23.0 - 33.9 M.Y.A.).

As for Egypt, while I am not in agreement with all of his suppositions, self taught Rogue Archaeologist John Anthony West puts Egypt's rise as a civilization, and the construction of its monuments, in the much deeper past prior to 10,000 B.C. when Egypt was not a desert but was a subtropical area with abundant rain fall and water. The erosion of the Sphinx geologically dated as having had to occur prior to 8,000 B.C. (when the region became a desert) has created significant controversy because it throws the chronology of ancient Egypt way off, and yet try as they might, like "The Telltale Heart", they can't make the evidence go away or change basic geologic principles.

Another interesting thing about the Basques. They are a linguistic anomaly. The Basque Language IS NOT a member of the Indo-European Language Group. As well there are ruins in Andalucia of extreme sophistication that were built in times so ancient that there is no reliable dating.

Genetic markers are interesting to the degree they show the distribution of human genotypes into the occluded area of time which begins with the time of Christ and becomes lost into the deeper and deeper antiquity of man till you hit about 5,000 B.C. and it moves into the realm of a fiendish puzzle.

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#22. To: Original_Intent (#15)

What's confusing about the Basque Irish link is language. They are the same people genetically, and the Irish were always said to have originated from the Iberian peninsula, long before the DNA evidence proved it. Yet, they speak Gaelic, which is a very traceable and consistent q-Celtic language, closely related to the p-Celtic Brythonic Celtic language(s). The moment they touched down in Ireland they started leaving clear signs that they were speaking Old Irish (Gaelic), yet the Basque speak, as you note, what many consider the last non-European, native neolithic possibly paleolithic language left in the world.

So if the Irish are the Basque, and everything points to this being the case, if your own bard passed down history says you came from Hispania originally (Milesian is an old name for Irish, comes from Milesius of Hispania, who they claim was their original founder in Ireland), and then suddenly, there are found to be an entire tribe in Hispania who are genetically identical to you, you probably came from Hispania originally, then wtf? They got on a boat, forgot the Basque language entirely, got off the boat a month later in Ireland and started hooting around in perfect q-Celtic Old Irish Gaelic (in a land where only Continental inherited p-Celtic was being spoken)?

Something doesn't add up.

SonOfLiberty  posted on  2010-07-22   14:05:46 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#23. To: SonOfLiberty (#22)

Yes, and it is one that drives the lamestream archaeologists nuts(er). The problem with the Iberian Peninsula are the archaeologic remains is that some regard it, David Hatcher Childress for one, as an outpost of Atlantis. Also interestingly, as is found at some other sites, e.g., The temple called Baalbek in Lebanon, and in the South Americas, is that the most sophisticated structures are the oldest structures. Baalbek has as its foundation the three largest stone blocks ever quarried by man in all times including the present - the largest weighing over 1,000 tons. The Andalusian site is thought by some to be the location of the fabled Tartessos (which has never really been nailed down). An interesting book from the early part of the twentieth century, at long last back in print through Adventures Unlimited Press, is "Atlantis in Andalusia" (retitled in the AUP printing as "Atlantis In Spain"). The suggestion of David Hatcher Childress who is a writer himself, and the owner of AUP, is that Basque may be a descendant of the original Atlantean Tongue. I am not enough of a linguist to say but it is an interesting thought. Interestingly the late Charles Berlitz, a linguist as well as heir to the Berlitz Language School Fortune and a writer on anomalies, traced a couple of words that show up on both sides of the Atlantic, between cultures that allegedly had no contact according to lamestream archaeology, that shared a few common words one of which is water. He details it in his books on Atlantis. There are other interesting linguistic anomalies - such as the similarity between the Rongo Rongo script of the Easter Islands with the script of the Indus Valley Culture half a planet away.

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#25. To: Original_Intent (#23)

I like the fantasy notion that I may be a descendant of Atlantians, lol. :)

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