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Title: More Rich Americans Renounce U.S. Citizenship for Lower Taxes
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URL Source: http://www.dailyfinance.com/story/t ... ship-for-lower-taxes/19560160/
Published: Jul 24, 2010
Author: JONATHAN BERR
Post Date: 2010-07-24 14:57:31 by Ada
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Views: 324
Comments: 22

More Americans are renouncing U.S. citizenship for tax reasons. A U.S.-born resident of Ireland recently came into some money after he and his wife sold a farm they inherited from her parents. Instead of enjoying his windfall, the man is furious at the Internal Revenue Service for penalizing him for running afoul of the agency's confusing regulations regarding the reporting of income from foreign bank accounts. He is so mad, according to his attorney, Jane Bruno, that he's considering renouncing his U.S. citizenship.

While such a move is drastic, it's also becoming increasingly common. In fact, so many people are eager to renounce their U.S. citizenship for tax reasons, that in some U.S. embassies there's a waiting list to escape from the clutches of Uncle Sam.

Part of the reason for the rising interest in renunciation is burdensome rules like the one about foreign accounts designed to catch people who use quitting their citizenship as a way to illegally duck their tax obligations, says Bruno, who is based in Palm Beach Gardens, Fla. The Irish resident, whom she declined to name, was slapped with a penalty of several thousand dollars.

"These penalties that they came up with are oversized when compared to the misdeeds that were committed," Bruno says.

Triple the Number in a Year

As many as 743 people with American citizenship or legal resident status renounced their U.S. citizenship in 2009 -- three times as many as in 2008 -- which resulted in a waiting list for people to say farewell to the red, white and blue at the U.S. Embassy in London, according to the Financial Times. That represents a tiny fraction of the 7 million or so Americans living abroad, but does underscore the growing unease about the Obama administration's taxation policies among the wealthy, according to experts.

Many of those leaving the U.S. behind have dual nationality and may not have lived in the country for years. Others have lived overseas for so long that America no longer feels like home. As Bruno points out, rescinding American citizenship is something not to be taken lightly. Not only do you lose the protection of the U.S. government, but the financial benefits don't kick in for several years. In fact, a former U.S. citizen is required to file tax returns to the IRS for several years after giving up citizenship.

"Also, persons who wish to renounce U.S. citizenship should also be aware that the fact that a person has renounced U.S. citizenship may have no effect whatsoever on his or her U.S. tax or military service obligations," according to the U.S. State Department's website. "In addition, the act of renouncing U.S. citizenship will not allow persons to avoid possible prosecution for crimes which they may have committed in the United States, or escape the repayment of financial obligations previously incurred in the United States or incurred as United States citizens abroad."

The Wealthy Have Been Quitting for Years

Wealthy people have been quitting their American citizenship for tax reasons for years. Tennessee-born mutual fund investor John Templeton did it in 1968. He died in 2008 in the Bahamas at the age of 95. John Dorrance III, grandson of the founder of Campbell Soup (CPB), quit being an American, as did members of the Getty Family. Companies including Tyco (TYC) and Transocean (RIG) have done the same thing. Some worry whether the newest crackdown will encourage more taxpayers to quit the U.S.

"U.S. citizens are in a uniquely horrible position as expatriates, wherever they reside, since the U.S. is just about the only major nation which taxes its citizens regardless of their residential status," according to Tax-News.com.

The crackdown on wealthy taxpayers is continuing. In April, IRS Enforcement Chief Steve Miller told members of Congress that tax revenue continues to be lost to offshore loopholes despite efforts to shut them down. Senate Finance Committee Chairman Max Baucus urged the IRS to be more vigilant. That may wind up driving more wealthy Americans overseas.

David Lesperance, a Canadian attorney, says he has seen a seven- or eightfold increase in cases of people looking to renounced their U.S. citizenship. The advantages of doing so are too great to pass up for financial and personal reasons such as divorce.

"They are not bound to a particular location to maintain their wealth," Lesperance says, adding that many people have found they can recreate their lifestyle abroad, and in some cases -- heaven forbid -- improve it. Wealthy expatriates know that "government at all levels are going to need money" and that "things are not going to get better for us."

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#2. To: Ada (#0)

Wealthy people have been quitting their American citizenship for tax reasons for years.

That ain't the only reason. They know what's coming down the road and actually leaving to save their hide. They know when TSHTF that the masses are going to go looking for money, food, and anything of value just to survive. That great big hascinda high on the hill or behind the closed walls and gate belongs to the wealthy and that is where the masses will be going for the necessities of survival. Those multi million dollar homes and the residents from within, built with money stolen from the poor will be the first targets.

My dad always told me that if the rich don't take care of the poor, someday the poor will take care of the rich. You rich people better give my remarks some thought. I hear people talking all the time about taking what they need for survival. I don't envy the rich, I pity them. Their heaven on earth just might come crashing down.

LACUMO  posted on  2010-07-24   16:58:39 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: LACUMO (#2)

Actually, if history is a guide, the poor (read, city people) will riot against each other, perpetrate horrible violence against each other, disrupt all supply lines that might be of benefit, and in rages of violent hunger, eventually end up devouring each other or simply dying.

The "poor" in the country, generally a far higher quality of person than the "masses" of inner city poor, will plant a garden and hunt a bit more than usual.

The "rich" (aka anybody making any decent amount of money) probably aren't living inside the city proper to begin with (excepting some big whigs in high rises). Most of us (I include myself in the category, because you progressives are so keen to call anybody who makes two bucks over minimum wage "rich") live far outside big city limits. And most of us are quite well armed, thank you very much.

This country has been "taking care of the poor" the last hundred years, and every year we go further and further into debt and decline, both monetarily and morally. Being poor at one time meant you lived on meager means, but could step up and make something of yourself. Now, more often than not, it means you're an entitlement demanding "you better feed me!" twit.

That kind can't cannibalize fast enough as far as I'm concerned.

There will be no "eat the rich" groove to get on, I'm afraid. Y'all will be far too busy undermining each other and never figuring out how to cooperate to peacefully recover. Just the way it goes, with the uneducated, lame minded, lazy and devious I suppose.

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#15. To: SonOfLiberty (#13)

There will be no "eat the rich" groove to get on, I'm afraid. Y'all will be far too busy undermining each other and never figuring out how to cooperate to peacefully recover. Just the way it goes, with the uneducated, lame minded, lazy and devious I suppose.

During the civil war and after there were scavangers that wiped out quite a few rich folks. History will repeat itself when TSHTF. They just might burn down those highrise townhouses in the city. Yeah! Those poor rioted against the British, not each other in the revolutionary war. All that is lacking is someone to fire them up and lead them.

As for you rich people as you call yourself, you are widely scattered out tgere in the country. There will be no one to come to your aid when all hell breaks loose. Remember, they all have cell phones and will be armed also. There will be hell to pay when the economy finally tanks. When rhose babies start to die off and cry from empty bellies, they will be a coming your way. Those million dollar homes will attract them like a magnet.

How in the hell do you know my financial standing and background. Poor thinking on your part. I have no bills whatsoever, a paid off modest home that I had built in 1971 and a nice retirement. Far too many don't have a snowballs chance in hell to earn enough to ever achive even what I have. The rich have destroyed the economy andhave seen to it that the American Dream is dead(gone) with the exodus of all the jobs that paid a living wage. Apparently you never heard Ross Perot claiming there will be a large sucking sound when NAFTA was passed and jobs were sent offshore by the rich.

The older folks won't have a chance against the youth when they get angrt. All they lack is a leader and I'm convienced somewhere out there ther is a leader that will appear to lead them when the time is ripe. Some of you rich , as you call your self, will survive. Many others will escaped abroad, and the rest of you will wish you were one of the poor. Of course we'll have to wait and see whether you are right or I am right. Either way, things will be coming to a head and it is going to be most frightening and terrible.

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