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Title: Questions on Lincoln
Source: freedom4um
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Published: Jul 27, 2010
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Post Date: 2010-07-27 10:09:28 by Eric Stratton
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Comments: 12


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Does anyone have sources for Abraham Lincoln quotes of his regretting the results of the Civil War? Someone posted one not long ago, a few days, a week maybe, but I can't find it. It had to do with the bankers and the like I think. Anyway, greatful for any help, I've searched on Google.

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#1. To: Eric Stratton (#0)

This what you mean?

On Nov. 21, 1864 President Abraham Lincoln wrote a letter to Colonel William F. Elkins. he wrote: "I see in the near future a crisis approaching that unnerves me and causes me to tremble for the safety of my country. As a result of the war, corporations have been enthroned, and an era of corruption in high places will follow, and the money power of the country will endeavor to prolong its reign by working upon the prejudices of the people until all wealth is aggregated in a few hands and the Republic is destroyed. I feel at this moment more anxiety for the safety of my country than ever before, even in the midst of war."

The war was Lincoln's fault so he had no one to blame but Lincoln. He was a tyrant.

Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end.
Lord Acton

He (Gordon Duff) also implies that forcibly removing Obama, a Constitution-hating, on-the-down-low, crackhead Communist, is an attack on America, Mom, and apple pie. I swear these military people are worse than useless. Just look around at the condition of the country and tell me if they have fulfilled their oaths to protect the nation from all enemies foreign and domestic.
OsamaBinGoldstein posted on 2010-05-25 9:39:59 ET (2 images) Reply Trace

James Deffenbach  posted on  2010-07-27   10:20:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: James Deffenbach (#1)

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The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one.

Eric Stratton  posted on  2010-07-27   11:25:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: James Deffenbach (#1)

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The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one.

Eric Stratton  posted on  2010-07-27   11:39:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: James Deffenbach (#1) (Edited)

The quotation is fake according to Lincoln's own secretary:

query.nytimes.com/mem/archive -free/pdf? _r=1&res=9C0DEFDE133BEE33A25750C0A9669D94679ED7CF

Shoonra  posted on  2010-07-27   11:58:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: Eric Stratton (#3)

BTW, do you know where that letter of his to Colonel Elkins can be found? Library of Congress?

I found it online (and can't attest to whether he actually said it or not). Lincoln didn't care about the country, else he wouldn't have done his best to destroy a big part of it.

www.stumbleupon.com/url/w...talinks.com/alincoln.html

www.democraticunderground.com

www.gaaflcio.org/quotes.htm

quotes.liberty-tree.ca/quote.../Abraham.Lincoln.Quote.4F97

www.globalissues.org/arti.../the-rise-of-corporations

www.freebase.com/view/quotationsbook/quote/9222

cancertutor.com/Quotes/Quotes_Presidents.html

Now, I can't attest to him actually saying it because I wasn't there. But there are several sources who claim he said it. These are just a few.

Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end.
Lord Acton

He (Gordon Duff) also implies that forcibly removing Obama, a Constitution-hating, on-the-down-low, crackhead Communist, is an attack on America, Mom, and apple pie. I swear these military people are worse than useless. Just look around at the condition of the country and tell me if they have fulfilled their oaths to protect the nation from all enemies foreign and domestic.
OsamaBinGoldstein posted on 2010-05-25 9:39:59 ET (2 images) Reply Trace

James Deffenbach  posted on  2010-07-27   12:06:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: Shoonra (#4)

query.nytimes.com/mem/archive-free/pdf? _r=1&res=9C0DEFDE133BEE33A25750C0A9669D94679ED7CF

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LOL!

Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end.
Lord Acton

He (Gordon Duff) also implies that forcibly removing Obama, a Constitution-hating, on-the-down-low, crackhead Communist, is an attack on America, Mom, and apple pie. I swear these military people are worse than useless. Just look around at the condition of the country and tell me if they have fulfilled their oaths to protect the nation from all enemies foreign and domestic.
OsamaBinGoldstein posted on 2010-05-25 9:39:59 ET (2 images) Reply Trace

James Deffenbach  posted on  2010-07-27   12:07:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: James Deffenbach (#6)

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LOL!

The link worked for me. It's a clipping from the NYT dated 1896 in which Lincoln's secretary claimed it was false.

Actually, if you ever read any of the books about Lincoln written and meticulously footnoted by Dr. Thomas DiLorenzo, you would have no problem believing it is a false statement. Lincoln was a creature of the railroad giants, as well as the other large industrialists of his time. He was bought and paid for. How's the old saying go, the more things change the more they stay the same? That saying describes our political system to a tee.

"The Central Intelligence Agency owns everyone of any significance in the major media." ~ William Colby, Director, CIA 1973–1976

Nothing in the State, everything outside the State, everything against the State - Jan Lester, Escape From Leviathan

"When plunder becomes a way of life for a group of men living together in society, they create for themselves in the course of time a legal system that authorizes it and a moral code that justifies it." - Frederic Bastiat

Good order results spontaneously when things are let alone. - Zhuangzi

F.A. Hayek Fan  posted on  2010-07-27   12:19:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: F.A. Hayek Fan (#7)

Yes, I have said on numerous occasions that Lincoln was a tyrant and that he really didn't care about the country. He cared about power. I have no use for him, think he is one of the worst presidents ever. I think the fraud occupying the White House right now is about the top of the list of worst ever but Lincoln is right up there close to him.

Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end.
Lord Acton

He (Gordon Duff) also implies that forcibly removing Obama, a Constitution-hating, on-the-down-low, crackhead Communist, is an attack on America, Mom, and apple pie. I swear these military people are worse than useless. Just look around at the condition of the country and tell me if they have fulfilled their oaths to protect the nation from all enemies foreign and domestic.
OsamaBinGoldstein posted on 2010-05-25 9:39:59 ET (2 images) Reply Trace

James Deffenbach  posted on  2010-07-27   12:33:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: James Deffenbach (#8)

I think the fraud occupying the White House right now is about the top of the list of worst ever but Lincoln is right up there close to him.

I do not see it that way myself. As far as tyrants and traitors to the Constitution and the American people go, I see Lincoln as being number 1, FDR #2, Wilson #3, LBJ #4, GWB #5 and Obama #6. While Obama has done some screwed up stuff and will likely continue to do so, so far he has done nothing compared to the first five I mentioned. Of course you know what Lincoln did, but FDR lied us into WWII for purely political and economic reasons, causing the death of and injury of millions around the world, not to mention pissing all over the Constitution with his New Deal laws and giving the American people a "you owe me" mindset. Wilson lied to get us into WWI, also causing the death of millions which also set the stage for WWII and then jailed dissenters to boot. LBJ lied us into the Vietnam War with the Gulf of Tonkin fraud and gave us the "Great Society," further enslaving the American people and destroying the family unit within the inner-city black and rural white communities. GWB lied us into the War in Iraq, gave us the Patriot Act, the Military Commissions Act, illegal wiretapping, and basically set up the police state infrastructure which later presidents and Congresses will expand upon and add to. So far Obama is a piker compared to the others. However, I doubt that same statement can be said by the time his term is up, especially if he is reelected.

"The Central Intelligence Agency owns everyone of any significance in the major media." ~ William Colby, Director, CIA 1973–1976

Nothing in the State, everything outside the State, everything against the State - Jan Lester, Escape From Leviathan

"When plunder becomes a way of life for a group of men living together in society, they create for themselves in the course of time a legal system that authorizes it and a moral code that justifies it." - Frederic Bastiat

Good order results spontaneously when things are let alone. - Zhuangzi

F.A. Hayek Fan  posted on  2010-07-27   12:57:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: F.A. Hayek Fan (#9)

We are close to the same page on our picks, just that I think the order might be some different. But every one you picked is a scumbag, no doubt about it.

Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end.
Lord Acton

He (Gordon Duff) also implies that forcibly removing Obama, a Constitution-hating, on-the-down-low, crackhead Communist, is an attack on America, Mom, and apple pie. I swear these military people are worse than useless. Just look around at the condition of the country and tell me if they have fulfilled their oaths to protect the nation from all enemies foreign and domestic.
OsamaBinGoldstein posted on 2010-05-25 9:39:59 ET (2 images) Reply Trace

James Deffenbach  posted on  2010-07-27   13:08:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: James Deffenbach (#10)

But every one you picked is a scumbag, no doubt about it.

And yet, disgustingly enough, those are the ones that history considers our greatest.

"The Central Intelligence Agency owns everyone of any significance in the major media." ~ William Colby, Director, CIA 1973–1976

Nothing in the State, everything outside the State, everything against the State - Jan Lester, Escape From Leviathan

"When plunder becomes a way of life for a group of men living together in society, they create for themselves in the course of time a legal system that authorizes it and a moral code that justifies it." - Frederic Bastiat

Good order results spontaneously when things are let alone. - Zhuangzi

F.A. Hayek Fan  posted on  2010-07-27   13:18:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: Eric Stratton, James Deffenbach (#0)

Search here: King Lincoln Archive

Warning: you will see that tyrannical SOB revealed for who he really was.

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"This man is Jesus,” shouted one man, spilling his Guinness as Barack Obama began his inaugural address. “When will he come to Kenya to save us?"

“The best and first guarantor of our neutrality and our independent existence is the defensive will of the people…and the proverbial marksmanship of the Swiss shooter. Each soldier a good marksman! Each shot a hit!”
-Schweizerische Schuetzenzeitung (Swiss Shooting Federation) April, 1941

X-15  posted on  2010-07-28   1:34:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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