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Post Date: 2010-08-01 09:57:39 by Eric Stratton
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What I would suggest is to start a thread on the subject of 911 coincidences and explain in the header essay what you are looking for i.e., "coincidences" that are not arcane and that can be communicated simply to raw public.


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Per OI's suggestion, that is what I've undertaken.

I have come to the conclusion that the final nails into the coffin of our Republic are being conducted with neocons holding the hammer, willfully and gleefully as our Republik more than slowly becomes a totalitarian state on steroids. I have also come to the unfortunate conclusion that it is primarily for lack of serious personal investigation, willful negligence and ignorance in essence, as the reasons why they believe the official Fairy Tale. They've never seriously looked into the matter, only superficially, and they've been driven by how their political "heroes" in the GOP have responded to the "twoofers;" Lameblow, Hammity, Palin, Junior, Cheney, etc., etc.

Granted, now Hussein is in office and they are blaming his cadre of people for merely continuing on in the BuchCo. legacy, but nevertheless, it is driven primarily by support for "national security," which we all here realize is really "federal government and NWO elite security," and which is all spun off of this notion that there are terrorists lurking around every street corner waiting to blow us all up when if that were even remotely true it'd have been done a thousand times already since 9/11. Instead, it's only happened a statistically insignificant number of times.

It's clear that they're never going to spend as much time researching this as we all do here. After all, they have socials and far more important things to attend to and investments to take care of so that they can all retire when they're 50-years old and play golf five days a week until they die and therefore cannot be inconvenienced to actually consider why they may be lucky to have a set of clubs in five years and access to a course.

So what I thought I would do is attempt to piece together a list of between 20 and 50 items that can be read within say a half-hour and that when considered individually really give cause for people to wonder about it all. 9/11 that is. But that when taken collectively, make them only ask "how can that all be if the Fairy Tale is actually true?" Obviously no one can force another to look, but what can be done is to make the top 20-50 points very easy to access and point out and ingest within a short period of time.

This should be a "Reader's Digest" Short-list version if you will.

Do I think that this is going to be the difference? No. I think that our Republic is toast in a major way regardless with much pain and suffering on the immediate horizon. But I also think that there's a very small window, and ever diminishing one, wherein which if all goes perfectly, perhaps there is at least a degree of hope, and God willing.

If anyone has seen exactly this, please post the link. I have not. I have seen numerous lists that have many items, often "arcane" ones as OI states above. I know that there are also thousands of data points as well, hence the effort.

If these points have blatant video evidence or irrefutable eye witness testimony from indisputable sources it would be good. Otherwise, simple logical "impossibilities" are also good. They should include the points that are the "biggest bang for the buck." I also know that many "financial coincidences" also fit the bill.

I thought we could brainstorm this together. I will keep a "top-50" list, and anyone else can feel free to do the same obviously.

But I thought a concentrated thread wherein only such data points are included and discussion related to them. It would be good to limit the thread to only that to avoid unnecessary clutter in a thread that will probably end up being quite large.

Thoughts?

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#28. To: Eric Stratton (#0)

~ you can also now use this thread here to demonstrate how easily the dis-info people can fill up an otherwise well-begun thread with endless BS, data irrellevent to your initial aim and argumentative as well ~

you asked for cooincedences, simpler things that don't take much head-scratching to recognize as being odd, or out of place -

how's this for simple - in the currently known history of humanity's ability to build big steel high rises like this, only 3 have ever fallen down due to fire, all 3 were on the same day, all 3 were leased/insured by the same man

let your friend do an internet search of other steel building fires, high in the air, infernos that lasted 24 hours or more leaving a smoking skeleton 'standing' once the fire was out

Amandil  posted on  2010-08-01   18:38:42 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#36. To: Amandil, Eric Stratton (#28)

~ you can also now use this thread here to demonstrate how easily the dis-info people can fill up an otherwise well-begun thread with endless BS, data irrellevent to your initial aim and argumentative as well ~

you asked for cooincedences, simpler things that don't take much head-scratching to recognize as being odd, or out of place -

how's this for simple - in the currently known history of humanity's ability to build big steel high rises like this, only 3 have ever fallen down due to fire, all 3 were on the same day, all 3 were leased/insured by the same man

let your friend do an internet search of other steel building fires, high in the air, infernos that lasted 24 hours or more leaving a smoking skeleton 'standing' once the fire was out

And not to forget of those 3 buildings that fell only 2 were hit by airplanes. Further WTC 7 had been hardened, reinforced and made stronger, by the city of NY because they were placing their emergency command center there.

As well the building hit first, with the most direct damage to the core, fell AFTER the South Tower which was hit second and based on the exit angle of the nose of the plane (where the fireball occurred) it suffered less damge, and yet it collapsed first.

Original_Intent  posted on  2010-08-01   19:18:55 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#38. To: Original_Intent (#36)

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Eric Stratton  posted on  2010-08-01   19:38:12 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#41. To: Eric Stratton (#38)

Any reason been floated as to why that was?

You mean... cartoon!

buckeroo  posted on  2010-08-01   19:48:20 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#43. To: buckeroo (#41)

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Eric Stratton  posted on  2010-08-01   19:50:57 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#45. To: Eric Stratton (#43) (Edited)

Review what happened with this captured video as the first tower collapsed. Check out about 4 minutes into the video. It collapsed not because of "demolitions"; it collapsed because of loss of structural integrity near the aircraft impact.

It pancaked.

edit: view about 16:50 into this video.... the building pancaked beneath the downward force of structurally weakened upper floors based on the jet aircraft... there was no other explosions.

buckeroo  posted on  2010-08-01   19:57:25 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#50. To: buckeroo (#45)

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Eric Stratton  posted on  2010-08-01   20:14:30 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#53. To: Eric Stratton (#50)

Dude, you're an idiot.

OMG! So soon into your own thread while you cast vindictive aspersions! Should I ask Christine to intercede as FL did back on the demolition theory thread?

buckeroo  posted on  2010-08-01   20:18:49 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#65. To: buckeroo (#53)

Should I ask Christine to intercede as FL did back on the demolition theory thread?

Don't lie buckie, you know I didn't ping christine to anything YOU said on that thread. It was your pal who was getting more than just a bit vulgar to a lady on that thread, and I basically just thought it was over the top, so I DID ping her to one of those posts for her information.

FormerLurker  posted on  2010-08-01   20:54:25 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#68. To: FormerLurker (#65)

Don't lie buckie, you know I didn't ping christine to anything YOU said on that thread. It was your pal who was getting more than just a bit vulgar to a lady on that thread, and I basically just thought it was over the top, so I DID ping her to one of those posts for her information.

Speak of a continuous liar that has admitted his own BS in the past....

But did I say:

to anything YOU said on that thread.

No, I didn't. You just make stuff up ALL the time.... and again, you are caught.

buckeroo  posted on  2010-08-01   21:02:32 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#75. To: buckeroo, HOUNDDAWG, ALL (#68)

Speak of a continuous liar that has admitted his own BS in the past....

It's quite clear how honest YOU are bucko.

FormerLurker  posted on  2010-08-01   21:09:45 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#83. To: FormerLurker (#75)

It's quite clear how honest YOU are bucko.

Unlike yourself, running around for over 50 posts ... begging for detailed data because you don't know how to use the Internet, I showed the documents which deflated your off-subject remarcks concerning credentials about Hani Hanjour.

You eventually admitted you were wrong (as usual)....

For myself, I research before jumping in and making an issue. Sure, the information AND my perspective is not agreeable. It NEVER has been depending on the subject matter or the folks I address.

buckeroo  posted on  2010-08-01   21:17:57 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#95. To: buckeroo (#83)

You eventually admitted you were wrong (as usual)....

Asking for proof isn't "being wrong", and since you and AgAviator weren't posting the proof, I assumed it didn't exist. So ok, there is proof that Hanjour had an actual FAA license (although ALL indications point to the fact he SHOULDN'T have had one).

You take a molehill and try to make a mountain out of it.

FormerLurker  posted on  2010-08-01   21:29:28 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#98. To: FormerLurker, buckeroo (#95)

You take a molehill and try to make a mountain out of it.

That is because all he has is molehills. He has made one point stand while a hundred have fallen. His fragile ego can't handle it, and his fixed ideas won't let him change his "mind".

Original_Intent  posted on  2010-08-01   21:32:25 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#105. To: Original_Intent, buckeroo, AGAviator, ALL (#98)

His fragile ego can't handle it, and his fixed ideas won't let him change his "mind".

There certainly has to be SOME reason why buck ignores all physical and cimcumstantial evidence, and makes up his own laws of physics.

BTW, has either of them explained why Hani Hanjour is listed as the Flight 77 hijacker who flew the aircraft from Ohio to Washington, then flew it into the Pentagton at 530 mph while flying 20 feet off the ground?

Have YOU ever seen any evidence indicating he was in fact the pilot of that aircraft?

FormerLurker  posted on  2010-08-01   21:38:59 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#115. To: FormerLurker, Original_Intent (#105)

There certainly has to be SOME reason why buck ignores all physical and cimcumstantial evidence, and makes up his own laws of physics.

I remember O_I pulling a fast one on a thread.... something to the point, that he used his "differential equations" to PROVE that the WTC didn't pancake. He said something to the effect, "but that was years ago but I will look it up and reproduce it."

He never did. It was all HOT_AIRE as always. Yet, DEs aren't required to understand, F = MA and in conjunction with the FORCE of jet aircraft slamming into building we also have collaborative photographic information of "pancaking."

I have already posted a link @45.

buckeroo  posted on  2010-08-01   21:50:02 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#117. To: buckeroo (#115)

Yet, DEs aren't required to understand, F = MA and in conjunction with the FORCE of jet aircraft slamming into building we also have collaborative photographic information of "pancaking."

You have NO "photographic evidence" of pancaking. There is ABUNDENT EVIDENCE of the towers turning to dust however.

FormerLurker  posted on  2010-08-01   21:52:14 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#119. To: FormerLurker (#117)

No evidence of any pancakes but plenty of eyewitnesses who saw molten steel. And from office fires! Guess that was the syrup for the "pancakes."

James Deffenbach  posted on  2010-08-01   21:55:18 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#122. To: James Deffenbach (#119)

No evidence of any pancakes but plenty of eyewitnesses who saw molten steel. And from office fires! Guess that was the syrup for the "pancakes."

Yep, and the pulverized concrete was the "confectioners sugar".

FormerLurker  posted on  2010-08-01   21:57:55 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#123. To: FormerLurker (#122)

Yep, and the pulverized concrete was the "confectioners sugar".

That's be some nasty-@$$ed pancakes, wouldn't it? Molten steel for syrup and pulverized concrete to top it off. Or maybe they used the pulverized concrete to make the batter.

James Deffenbach  posted on  2010-08-01   22:00:02 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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