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Post Date: 2010-08-01 09:57:39 by Eric Stratton
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What I would suggest is to start a thread on the subject of 911 coincidences and explain in the header essay what you are looking for i.e., "coincidences" that are not arcane and that can be communicated simply to raw public.
Poster Comment: Per OI's suggestion, that is what I've undertaken. I have come to the conclusion that the final nails into the coffin of our Republic are being conducted with neocons holding the hammer, willfully and gleefully as our Republik more than slowly becomes a totalitarian state on steroids. I have also come to the unfortunate conclusion that it is primarily for lack of serious personal investigation, willful negligence and ignorance in essence, as the reasons why they believe the official Fairy Tale. They've never seriously looked into the matter, only superficially, and they've been driven by how their political "heroes" in the GOP have responded to the "twoofers;" Lameblow, Hammity, Palin, Junior, Cheney, etc., etc. Granted, now Hussein is in office and they are blaming his cadre of people for merely continuing on in the BuchCo. legacy, but nevertheless, it is driven primarily by support for "national security," which we all here realize is really "federal government and NWO elite security," and which is all spun off of this notion that there are terrorists lurking around every street corner waiting to blow us all up when if that were even remotely true it'd have been done a thousand times already since 9/11. Instead, it's only happened a statistically insignificant number of times. It's clear that they're never going to spend as much time researching this as we all do here. After all, they have socials and far more important things to attend to and investments to take care of so that they can all retire when they're 50-years old and play golf five days a week until they die and therefore cannot be inconvenienced to actually consider why they may be lucky to have a set of clubs in five years and access to a course. So what I thought I would do is attempt to piece together a list of between 20 and 50 items that can be read within say a half-hour and that when considered individually really give cause for people to wonder about it all. 9/11 that is. But that when taken collectively, make them only ask "how can that all be if the Fairy Tale is actually true?" Obviously no one can force another to look, but what can be done is to make the top 20-50 points very easy to access and point out and ingest within a short period of time. This should be a "Reader's Digest" Short-list version if you will. Do I think that this is going to be the difference? No. I think that our Republic is toast in a major way regardless with much pain and suffering on the immediate horizon. But I also think that there's a very small window, and ever diminishing one, wherein which if all goes perfectly, perhaps there is at least a degree of hope, and God willing. If anyone has seen exactly this, please post the link. I have not. I have seen numerous lists that have many items, often "arcane" ones as OI states above. I know that there are also thousands of data points as well, hence the effort. If these points have blatant video evidence or irrefutable eye witness testimony from indisputable sources it would be good. Otherwise, simple logical "impossibilities" are also good. They should include the points that are the "biggest bang for the buck." I also know that many "financial coincidences" also fit the bill. I thought we could brainstorm this together. I will keep a "top-50" list, and anyone else can feel free to do the same obviously. But I thought a concentrated thread wherein only such data points are included and discussion related to them. It would be good to limit the thread to only that to avoid unnecessary clutter in a thread that will probably end up being quite large. Thoughts? Already been done? (Where?)
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#6. To: Eric Stratton (#0)
Oh no.... not another TWOOFER_FAERIE™ thread!
Arguing with them is like playing "Whack A Mole." Hit them on one point in one place, they pop up out of another hole in another place. Still want to know why
#15. To: AGAviator, christine (#13)
Well Curly - as per your usual you are applying "Disinformation For Dummies". Too bad every one here has a higher I.Q. than you. Other than that I will not dignify your attempt to derail the thread by recreating the same old false argument which has been refuted now on multiple occasions. I would ask you to have the manners and grace to delete the post or for christine to remove it as inappropriate to the thread, and its intent. If you want to start a "911 Official Spin for Dummies" thread please feel free. However I suspect you know what it would attract - either genuine dummies or refutations which you are incapable of countering.
Here is a chronology of September 11, 2001 based on significant events. Where's the conspiracy? 9:03 a.m. United Airlines Flight 175 crashes into Two World Trade Center (south tower). 9:17 a.m. FAA closes NYC area airports. 9:21 a.m. NYC Port Authority closes all bridges and tunnels in NYC. 9:24 a.m. President Bush calls crashes "an apparent attack on our country". 9:32 a.m. New York Stock Exchange closed. 9:40 a.m. FAA orders all commercial flights grounded. 9:43 a.m. American Airlines Flight 77 crashes into the Pentagon. (Note: other sources cite the crash at 9:37 and 9:45) 9:45 a.m. White House evacuated. 9:59 a.m. Two World Trade Center (south tower) collapses. (note: other souces cite the collapse at 10:03, 10:05, & 10:06) 10:00 a.m. United Airlines Flight 93 crashes in Somerset County, Pennsylvania. (note: the crash happened slightly after 10 am, perhaps as late as 10:10 according to other sources) 10:10 a.m. Portion of the Pentagon collapses. 10:13 a.m. United Nations building evacuates. 10:22 a.m. State and Justice Departments, and World Bank, evacuated in Washington DC. 10:24 a.m. FAA reroutes inbound transatlantic flights to land in Canada. 10:28 a.m. One World Trade Center (north tower) collapses. 10:45 a.m. All federal office buildings in Washington DC evacuated. 10:48 a.m. Police confirm Pennsylvania plane crash. 10:53 a.m. New York's primary elections postponed. 10:54 a.m. Israel evacuates diplomatic missions. 10:57 a.m. NY Gov. Pataki announces closure of all state government offices. 11:02 a.m. Mayor Giuliani urges New Yorkers to stay at home and orders an evacuation of the area south of Canal Street 12:04 p.m. Los Angeles International Airport evacuated. 12:15 p.m. San Francisco International Airport evacuated. 12:15 p.m. US closes some Canada and Mexico border crossings. 1:02 p.m. NY Mayor Giuliani evacuates Manhattan south of Canal Street. 1:04 p.m. President Bush says: "Make no mistake, the United States will hunt down and punish those responsible for these cowardly acts." (note: other sources cite this at 12:36) 1:27 p.m. Washington DC declares state of emergency in the city. 2:30 p.m. FAA announces suspension of US commercial air traffic until noon EST Wednesday 9/12/01. 4:00 p.m. CNN National Security Correspondent David Ensor reports there are indications that Osama bin Laden is involved in attacks. 4:10 p.m. Seven World Trade Center reported to be on fire. 4:25 p.m. American Stock Exchange, Nasdaq, and New York Stock Exchange announce they will be closed Wednesday, 9/12. 4:45 p.m. City of New York announces that 200 firefighters and 78 police officers are missing.(Note: according to other sources, at 7:45 pm the New York Police department announced that at least 78 police officers were missing and that as many as half (200) of the first firefighters at the scene had been killed.) 5:20 p.m. Seven World Trade Center building collapses. 5:30 p.m. Explosions reported in Kabul, Afghanistan. (note: other sources cite this for 6 pm) 6:40 p.m. Press conference by US Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld from the Pentagon. 6:45 p.m. President Bush arrives at the White House. (note: other sources say he arrived at 6:54) 8:30 p.m. President Bush addresses the nation. Search warrants obtained for homes and post office boxes in Florida.
what we really want to know is what is on all those videos from around the pentagon that were confiscated, what is the liar movement trying to hide?
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#13. To: buckeroo (#6)
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Oh no.... not another TWOOFER_FAERIE™ thread!
(1) A 1/2 G turn is supposed to be evidence of "fighter pilot skills" when student pilots must do 2G turns to get licensed and fighter pilots regularly pull 8+ G's,
Nyuk, nyuk.
(2) Descending at 46.667 feet per second or 31.818 miles per hour is supposed to be evidence of "fighter pilot skills," when you descend faster than that on a roller coaster,
(3) How an aircraft controller trying to track a plane with its transponder off, and which completely disappears from the radar screen half way through its descending turn, is able to accurately describe the completed turn as a "precision turn" when the ATC doesn't even see the last half of the turn
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#26. To: AGAviator (#13)
Arguing with them is like playing "Whack A Mole."
8:48 a.m. First news reports that American Airlines Flight 11 has crashed into One World Trade Center (north tower).
#130. To: AGAviator (#13)
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