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What I would suggest is to start a thread on the subject of 911 coincidences and explain in the header essay what you are looking for i.e., "coincidences" that are not arcane and that can be communicated simply to raw public.
Poster Comment: Per OI's suggestion, that is what I've undertaken. I have come to the conclusion that the final nails into the coffin of our Republic are being conducted with neocons holding the hammer, willfully and gleefully as our Republik more than slowly becomes a totalitarian state on steroids. I have also come to the unfortunate conclusion that it is primarily for lack of serious personal investigation, willful negligence and ignorance in essence, as the reasons why they believe the official Fairy Tale. They've never seriously looked into the matter, only superficially, and they've been driven by how their political "heroes" in the GOP have responded to the "twoofers;" Lameblow, Hammity, Palin, Junior, Cheney, etc., etc. Granted, now Hussein is in office and they are blaming his cadre of people for merely continuing on in the BuchCo. legacy, but nevertheless, it is driven primarily by support for "national security," which we all here realize is really "federal government and NWO elite security," and which is all spun off of this notion that there are terrorists lurking around every street corner waiting to blow us all up when if that were even remotely true it'd have been done a thousand times already since 9/11. Instead, it's only happened a statistically insignificant number of times. It's clear that they're never going to spend as much time researching this as we all do here. After all, they have socials and far more important things to attend to and investments to take care of so that they can all retire when they're 50-years old and play golf five days a week until they die and therefore cannot be inconvenienced to actually consider why they may be lucky to have a set of clubs in five years and access to a course. So what I thought I would do is attempt to piece together a list of between 20 and 50 items that can be read within say a half-hour and that when considered individually really give cause for people to wonder about it all. 9/11 that is. But that when taken collectively, make them only ask "how can that all be if the Fairy Tale is actually true?" Obviously no one can force another to look, but what can be done is to make the top 20-50 points very easy to access and point out and ingest within a short period of time. This should be a "Reader's Digest" Short-list version if you will. Do I think that this is going to be the difference? No. I think that our Republic is toast in a major way regardless with much pain and suffering on the immediate horizon. But I also think that there's a very small window, and ever diminishing one, wherein which if all goes perfectly, perhaps there is at least a degree of hope, and God willing. If anyone has seen exactly this, please post the link. I have not. I have seen numerous lists that have many items, often "arcane" ones as OI states above. I know that there are also thousands of data points as well, hence the effort. If these points have blatant video evidence or irrefutable eye witness testimony from indisputable sources it would be good. Otherwise, simple logical "impossibilities" are also good. They should include the points that are the "biggest bang for the buck." I also know that many "financial coincidences" also fit the bill. I thought we could brainstorm this together. I will keep a "top-50" list, and anyone else can feel free to do the same obviously. But I thought a concentrated thread wherein only such data points are included and discussion related to them. It would be good to limit the thread to only that to avoid unnecessary clutter in a thread that will probably end up being quite large. Thoughts? Already been done? (Where?)
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#173. To: AGAviator, FormerLurker (#169)
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Speaking in generalities again and acting as though the unproven generalities are facts simply because you say so. Gosh, I just don't know what it is, but for some strange reason I find your unsupported assertions about as believable as a Used Car Salesman on the make.
"One of the least understood strategies of the world revolution now moving rapidly toward its goal is the use of mind control as a major means of obtaining the consent of the people who will be subjects of the New World Order." K.M. Heaton, The National Educator
the clear supportable facts are the government refuses to release all the videos they confiscated from around the pentagon on 9-11-01 now why is that unless those videos do not depict the scenario they created for shills like you and the rest of the liar movement to plug.
You're contributing nothing here. The thread isn't aimed at you or asking for anything that you have. All you two are is a source of noise. It was you noise makers who trashed a thread started by buckeroo titled "9/11 Demolition Theory Challenged," with obscene and personal attacking posts having zero content. Looking through the posting history, we have a perfect case study of what phony little bitches you all are to accuse anybody else of dumping on somebody else's thread. This is just the first 50 out of 1200 total posts 911 Demolition Theory Challenged #10 Challenged by morons and stooges, who cares? God is always good! RickyJ posted on 2010-07-17 18:23:33 ET #11 Fair assumption for idiots, but a damn dumb one for anyone else. God is always good! RickyJ posted on 2010-07-17 18:26:34 ET #30.Bullshit. When you want to get shredded (again) let me know. Rotara posted on 2010-07-17 19:38:38 ET #31. God bless you for spending your precious time engaging serial spinners like AGitprop and bohicAROO...intellectually dishonest posters don't excite me so much anymore, especially when frauds like these have been shown on many occasions to be less than honest, at the very least. Rotara posted on 2010-07-17 19:43:48 ET #35. not to pigs like you Rotara posted on 2010-07-17 20:06:43 ET #40.lol.........OH NO!!! What ever shall you do? Buck has gone and put you on bozo filter.......oh, the horror of it all! Oh, de humanity!! abraxas posted on 2010-07-17 20:12:18 ET #41.perfect, asswipe Rotara posted on 2010-07-17 20:14:03 ET #42.yeah, well...i don't exactly know HOW MUCH counseling i'll need to maybe get through this. /thick sarcasm Rotara posted on 2010-07-17 20:15:32 ET #44. Lol.......I have a sinister plan to pay for all of that counseling. Draft a ten step plan: How to get onto Buck's Bozo Filter. Many at 4um will open their wallets happily for such a valuable, dare I say priceless, information. They will pay double if the plan applies to AGAviator. abraxas posted on 2010-07-17 20:20:34 ET ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- he wont because he can't, his handler figured everyone was as stupid as AGovshill and bucky are and would just take their word for it like the liar movement members did/do.
You apparently feel a need to try to make this thread about you. We aren't interested in you, what we're interested in is in seeing any evidence whatsoever that Hani Hanjour boarded Flight 77, that he hijacked it as the aircraft was approaching Ohio, that he flew it from Ohio to Washington, then flew it into the Pentagon. Can you even prove he was onboard that flight?
He's seriously dodging the request isn't he...
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The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one.
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all he has ever done because as you and I and everyone knows AGovshill and the rest of the liar movement has nothing.
prior to the "kinder, gentler navy" we used to post signs in our work spaces that read "Hire the handicapped, they are fun to watch." for the likes of AGovshill's type.
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Whether it's intentional or not it's certainly all they're doing.
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911 Timeline He is selected for additional scrutiny by airport security under the FAA’s CAPPS program (see (6:20 a.m.-7:48 a.m.) September 11, 2001), but this has no consequences. The final two Flight 77 hijackers, brothers Nawaf and Salem Alhazmi, check in at approximately 7:29 a.m. The customer service representative makes both of them CAPPS selectees, because one of them cannot provide photo identification and seems unable to understand English, and he finds both of them suspicious. However, the only consequence is that Salem Alhazmi’s luggage is not loaded onto the plane until it is confirmed that he has boarded. Surveillance cameras monitor the security checkpoints at Dulles Airport. According to the 9/11 Commission’s review of security footage, Hani Hanjour passes through the Main Terminal’s west security screening checkpoint at 7:35 a.m. He proceeds through the metal detector without setting off the alarm, and his two carry-on bags set off no alarms when placed on the X-ray belt. The Alhazmis arrive at the same checkpoint a minute later. Salem Alhazmi successfully clears the metal detector, and is permitted through the checkpoint. Nawaf Alhazmi sets off the alarms for both the first and second metal detectors and is subsequently subjected to a personal screening with a metal detection hand wand before being passed. His shoulder bag is swiped by an explosive trace detector and returned without further inspection. [9/11 Commission, 1/27/2004; 9/11 Commission, 7/24/2004, pp. 3; 9/11 Commission, 8/26/2004, pp. 27-28 ] 911 Research.com Jim Hoffman Pentagon Attack No Jetliner Claims
---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- are you familiar with Jim Marrs? and if you haven't already read this book and I do have a loner copy. I imagine the only thing that might get most of the folks in the liar movement to see the light would be for someone to wave more money at them than their current owners are paying them. But who wants liars coming over just for money? If the current owners then offered them another penny more they would switch again.
Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end. He (Gordon Duff) also implies that forcibly removing Obama, a Constitution-hating, on-the-down-low, crackhead Communist, is an attack on America, Mom, and apple pie. I swear these military people are worse than useless. Just look around at the condition of the country and tell me if they have fulfilled their oaths to protect the nation from all enemies foreign and domestic. Is the shill arguing that there is no such thing as a controlled top down demolition? If he is that is yet another lie.
Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end. He (Gordon Duff) also implies that forcibly removing Obama, a Constitution-hating, on-the-down-low, crackhead Communist, is an attack on America, Mom, and apple pie. I swear these military people are worse than useless. Just look around at the condition of the country and tell me if they have fulfilled their oaths to protect the nation from all enemies foreign and domestic. And we all missed that "pancake" of the building falling down too since that isn't what happened.
Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end. He (Gordon Duff) also implies that forcibly removing Obama, a Constitution-hating, on-the-down-low, crackhead Communist, is an attack on America, Mom, and apple pie. I swear these military people are worse than useless. Just look around at the condition of the country and tell me if they have fulfilled their oaths to protect the nation from all enemies foreign and domestic. Well, they could certainly apply for the position of aholes since they are both extremely well qualified.
Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end. He (Gordon Duff) also implies that forcibly removing Obama, a Constitution-hating, on-the-down-low, crackhead Communist, is an attack on America, Mom, and apple pie. I swear these military people are worse than useless. Just look around at the condition of the country and tell me if they have fulfilled their oaths to protect the nation from all enemies foreign and domestic. Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end. He (Gordon Duff) also implies that forcibly removing Obama, a Constitution-hating, on-the-down-low, crackhead Communist, is an attack on America, Mom, and apple pie. I swear these military people are worse than useless. Just look around at the condition of the country and tell me if they have fulfilled their oaths to protect the nation from all enemies foreign and domestic. deleted
The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one.
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Yeah, they looked familiar.
Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end. He (Gordon Duff) also implies that forcibly removing Obama, a Constitution-hating, on-the-down-low, crackhead Communist, is an attack on America, Mom, and apple pie. I swear these military people are worse than useless. Just look around at the condition of the country and tell me if they have fulfilled their oaths to protect the nation from all enemies foreign and domestic. only in that their names are spelled the same.
Yes.
"we ought to lay off the criticism" -- Pinguinite, circa 2010-05-26 22:17:22 ET
Yes. No. That's about as much discussion as the subject deserves, LOL.
---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- FL and the twoofer team are taking the day off. They are tired of coming up with silly questions that are easily disputed with some FACTS they could have researched all by themselves.
"we ought to lay off the criticism" -- Pinguinite, circa 2010-05-26 22:17:22 ET
You: Yes. Post it then, with a credible source. By evidence, I mean something like proof that he checked in, or perhaps even bought a ticket for the flight.
I don't need to prove a negative. There is no credible evidence that proves Hanjour was ever on that flight.
By evidence, I mean something like proof that he checked in, or perhaps even bought a ticket for the flight. Sure. Here is the link to FLT77's official passenger list. You can click on it. "we ought to lay off the criticism" -- Pinguinite, circa 2010-05-26 22:17:22 ET
Neither can you claim that not needing to prove a negative makes your claims true. The best you can say is "Nothing is known and more information is needed." Actually there is, and it is the result of hundreds of investigators and tens of thousands of man hours. To proceed to some alternative theory, you must first show why it is better than what already exists, point by point, rebutted item by rebutted item.
---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Did you hear about the guy that helped Hanjour with his fake ID? Abdel Rahman Omar Tawfiq Alfauru - Arlington, Virginia, Charged by FBI allegedly participating in a fake identification ring, documents associated with 9/11 hijacker Hani Hanjour. I am still attempting to find out what his jail sentence was. Alfauru helped most of the illegal aliens acquire fake IDs. edit - added hotlink to findlaw... piles of Islamic folks going to court.
"we ought to lay off the criticism" -- Pinguinite, circa 2010-05-26 22:17:22 ET
edit - added hotlink to findlaw... piles of Islamic folks going to court. Good job, it would be hard for me to have the patience.
---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- So the person claiming to be Hanjour had a fake ID. Hmmm, so was the person getting the fake ID the REAL Hani Hanjour?
Now is there any proof that the person calling himself Hanjour even boarded that plane? I mean, did he checkin, or did he just have a ticket and missed his flight?
Well lookie here, the original news reports stated that Hanjour didn't show up on the flight manifest since he might not have had a ticket.... From The Washington Post But, I already told you in an earlier post: I don't care about the Washington Post article, often newspapers reports are based on misinterpretation.
"we ought to lay off the criticism" -- Pinguinite, circa 2010-05-26 22:17:22 ET
Which is a good thing because, as far as I know, you can't prove a negative. One of the morons who used to post on LP made the claim years ago that Osama bin Forgotten had been killed in a cave with a daisy cutter bomb. I told him to prove he was dead since he made the claim. He told me to prove he wasn't and that idiot never could be convinced that neither I nor anyone else could prove a negative and that as the one who posited the claim it was incumbent upon him to prove it.
Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end. He (Gordon Duff) also implies that forcibly removing Obama, a Constitution-hating, on-the-down-low, crackhead Communist, is an attack on America, Mom, and apple pie. I swear these military people are worse than useless. Just look around at the condition of the country and tell me if they have fulfilled their oaths to protect the nation from all enemies foreign and domestic.
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Top • Page Up • Full Thread • Page Down • Bottom/LatestThere are hundreds of people who worked on a report saying that it crashed into the Pentagon, and there are hundreds more who provided evidence and testimony used to arrive at that conclusion.
#174. To: AGAviator, wudidiz, RickyJ, GreyLmist, FormerLurker, James Deffenbach, Rotara, abraxas, Original_Intent (#169)
Before you proceed any further, you need to state why they are all wrong and you have some privileged and specific information that overrides everything they've said and done.
the most factual thing ever posted by buckeroo
I have no freaking' clue. buckeroo posted on 2010-07-24 21:33:00 ET
#175. To: Eric Stratton, buckeroo, turtle (#162)
Why, you two can't not come in and shit all over the place and make a big mess?
One of the major consequences of the 9/11 movement has been to draw enormous amounts of energy and effort away from activism directed to real and ongoing crimes of state, and their institutional background, crimes that are far more serious than blowing up the WTC would be, if there were any credibility to that thesis. That is, I suspect, why the 9/11 movement is treated far more tolerantly by centers of power than is the norm for serious critical and activist work....Noam Chomsky
#176. To: FormerLurker (#172)
the most factual thing ever posted by buckeroo
I have no freaking' clue. buckeroo posted on 2010-07-24 21:33:00 ET
#177. To: AGAviator, Eric Stratton, turtle, All (#175)
"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
#178. To: IRTorqued (#176)
he wont because he can't, his handler figured everyone was as stupid as AGovshill and bucky are and would just take their word for it like the liar movement members did/do.
"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
#179. To: wudidiz (#164)
#180. To: AGAviator (#175)
#181. To: FormerLurker (#178)
the most factual thing ever posted by buckeroo
I have no freaking' clue. buckeroo posted on 2010-07-24 21:33:00 ET
#182. To: Eric Stratton (#180)
the most factual thing ever posted by buckeroo
I have no freaking' clue. buckeroo posted on 2010-07-24 21:33:00 ET
#183. To: IRTorqued (#182)
#184. To: All (#182)
#185. To: Eric Stratton (#179)
I'm starting to think that that's their sole purpose.
I ran out of smart sounding quotes
#186. To: wudidiz (#185)
#187. To: FormerLurker (#172)
The 9/11 Commission estimates that Flight 77 hijacker Hani Hanjour checks in at the American Airlines ticket counter at Washington’s Dulles International Airport some time between 7:25 a.m. and 7:35 a.m. (American Airlines will be unable to locate information confirming his check-in time.) [9/11 Commission, 8/26/2004, pp. 93 ]
One of the major consequences of the 9/11 movement has been to draw enormous amounts of energy and effort away from activism directed to real and ongoing crimes of state, and their institutional background, crimes that are far more serious than blowing up the WTC would be, if there were any credibility to that thesis. That is, I suspect, why the 9/11 movement is treated far more tolerantly by centers of power than is the norm for serious critical and activist work....Noam Chomsky
#188. To: Eric Stratton (#184)
the most factual thing ever posted by buckeroo
I have no freaking' clue. buckeroo posted on 2010-07-24 21:33:00 ET
#189. To: Eric Stratton (#184)
the most factual thing ever posted by buckeroo
I have no freaking' clue. buckeroo posted on 2010-07-24 21:33:00 ET
#190. To: IRTorqued (#139)
that factaphobic bucky knows those are the videos that needs to be seen by the public but can't because it will destroy the liar movement. when the liar movement is destroyed bucky and AGovshill are out of a job, poor saps.
Lord Acton
OsamaBinGoldstein posted on 2010-05-25 9:39:59 ET (2 images) Reply Trace
#191. To: FormerLurker (#140)
Lord Acton
OsamaBinGoldstein posted on 2010-05-25 9:39:59 ET (2 images) Reply Trace
#192. To: IRTorqued (#145)
the humanity....we missed Saint Alfonzo's pancake breakfast.
Lord Acton
OsamaBinGoldstein posted on 2010-05-25 9:39:59 ET (2 images) Reply Trace
#193. To: Eric Stratton (#166)
Perhaps they can apply for the position of ass-plug for the GOP equivalent of Barney Frank.
Lord Acton
OsamaBinGoldstein posted on 2010-05-25 9:39:59 ET (2 images) Reply Trace
#194. To: IRTorqued (#168)
careful you are dealing with guy who could on a regular basis come in second place in a debate with yukon, third if mad dog chimed in.
LOL!
Lord Acton
OsamaBinGoldstein posted on 2010-05-25 9:39:59 ET (2 images) Reply Trace
#195. To: IRTorqued (#189)
#196. To: IRTorqued (#188)
#197. To: James Deffenbach (#191)
#198. To: Eric Stratton (#197)
Lord Acton
OsamaBinGoldstein posted on 2010-05-25 9:39:59 ET (2 images) Reply Trace
#199. To: Eric Stratton (#196)
the most factual thing ever posted by buckeroo
I have no freaking' clue. buckeroo posted on 2010-07-24 21:33:00 ET
#200. To: FormerLurker, AGAviator (#138)
DO you know of any evidence indicating Hani Hanjour was onboard that aircraft [AAFLT77, flight from IAD to LAX (pushed back from Gate D26 at 08:09 AM and took off from Runway 30 at Dulles at 08:20 AM) on Tuesday September 11, 2001], and that he took control of the plane and flew it from Ohio to Washington DC?
#201. To: buckeroo (#200)
Do you know of any evidence indicating Hani Hanjour was onboard that aircraft [AAFLT 77]?
And does FL have any evidence that Hanjour was not on that flight?
One of the major consequences of the 9/11 movement has been to draw enormous amounts of energy and effort away from activism directed to real and ongoing crimes of state, and their institutional background, crimes that are far more serious than blowing up the WTC would be, if there were any credibility to that thesis. That is, I suspect, why the 9/11 movement is treated far more tolerantly by centers of power than is the norm for serious critical and activist work....Noam Chomsky
#202. To: AGAviator (#201)
#203. To: buckeroo, AGaviator, ALL (#200)
Me: DO you know of any evidence indicating Hani Hanjour was onboard that aircraft, and that he took control of the plane and flew it from Ohio to Washington DC?
"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
#204. To: AGAviator, buckeroo, ALL (#201)
And does FL have any evidence that Hanjour was not on that flight? No.
"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
#205. To: FormerLurker (#203)
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Post it then, with a credible source.
#206. To: FormerLurker, buckeroo (#204)
I don't need to prove a negative.
There is no credible evidence that proves Hanjour was ever on that flight.
One of the major consequences of the 9/11 movement has been to draw enormous amounts of energy and effort away from activism directed to real and ongoing crimes of state, and their institutional background, crimes that are far more serious than blowing up the WTC would be, if there were any credibility to that thesis. That is, I suspect, why the 9/11 movement is treated far more tolerantly by centers of power than is the norm for serious critical and activist work....Noam Chomsky
#207. To: AGAviator (#206)
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Actually there is, and it is the result of hundreds of investigators and tens of thousands of man hours.
#208. To: buckeroo (#207)
I am still attempting to find out what his jail sentence was. Alfauru helped most of the illegal aliens acquire fake IDs.
One of the major consequences of the 9/11 movement has been to draw enormous amounts of energy and effort away from activism directed to real and ongoing crimes of state, and their institutional background, crimes that are far more serious than blowing up the WTC would be, if there were any credibility to that thesis. That is, I suspect, why the 9/11 movement is treated far more tolerantly by centers of power than is the norm for serious critical and activist work....Noam Chomsky
#209. To: buckeroo (#205)
NEWARK, New Jersey (CNN) -- Federal prosecutors charged a Jordanian man with participating in a fake ID ring that helped several September 11 hijackers obtain bogus driver's licenses and identification cards, prosecutors said Wednesday.
"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
#210. To: buckeroo (#205)
"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
#211. To: buckeroo, AGAviator, Original_Intent, All (#205)
Hani Hanjour
Obtained a commercial pilot's license in April 1999 from the Federal Aviation Administration. The license expired six months later because he failed to complete a required medical exam. In 1996, he received flight training for a few months at a private school in Scottsdale, Ariz., but did not finish the course because his instructors thought he was not proficient enough. He listed his address as a post office box in Taife, Saudi Arabia, but he also has been linked to addresses in San Diego and Hollywood, Fla. His name was not on the American Airlines manifest for the flight because he may not have had a ticket.
"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
#212. To: FormerLurker (#211)
Hanjour presented his Virginia driver's license when he purchased his plane ticket on August 31 from a New Jersey travel agent.
#213. To: FormerLurker (#204)
I don't need to prove a negative.
Lord Acton
OsamaBinGoldstein posted on 2010-05-25 9:39:59 ET (2 images) Reply Trace
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