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Post Date: 2010-08-01 09:57:39 by Eric Stratton
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What I would suggest is to start a thread on the subject of 911 coincidences and explain in the header essay what you are looking for i.e., "coincidences" that are not arcane and that can be communicated simply to raw public.
Poster Comment: Per OI's suggestion, that is what I've undertaken. I have come to the conclusion that the final nails into the coffin of our Republic are being conducted with neocons holding the hammer, willfully and gleefully as our Republik more than slowly becomes a totalitarian state on steroids. I have also come to the unfortunate conclusion that it is primarily for lack of serious personal investigation, willful negligence and ignorance in essence, as the reasons why they believe the official Fairy Tale. They've never seriously looked into the matter, only superficially, and they've been driven by how their political "heroes" in the GOP have responded to the "twoofers;" Lameblow, Hammity, Palin, Junior, Cheney, etc., etc. Granted, now Hussein is in office and they are blaming his cadre of people for merely continuing on in the BuchCo. legacy, but nevertheless, it is driven primarily by support for "national security," which we all here realize is really "federal government and NWO elite security," and which is all spun off of this notion that there are terrorists lurking around every street corner waiting to blow us all up when if that were even remotely true it'd have been done a thousand times already since 9/11. Instead, it's only happened a statistically insignificant number of times. It's clear that they're never going to spend as much time researching this as we all do here. After all, they have socials and far more important things to attend to and investments to take care of so that they can all retire when they're 50-years old and play golf five days a week until they die and therefore cannot be inconvenienced to actually consider why they may be lucky to have a set of clubs in five years and access to a course. So what I thought I would do is attempt to piece together a list of between 20 and 50 items that can be read within say a half-hour and that when considered individually really give cause for people to wonder about it all. 9/11 that is. But that when taken collectively, make them only ask "how can that all be if the Fairy Tale is actually true?" Obviously no one can force another to look, but what can be done is to make the top 20-50 points very easy to access and point out and ingest within a short period of time. This should be a "Reader's Digest" Short-list version if you will. Do I think that this is going to be the difference? No. I think that our Republic is toast in a major way regardless with much pain and suffering on the immediate horizon. But I also think that there's a very small window, and ever diminishing one, wherein which if all goes perfectly, perhaps there is at least a degree of hope, and God willing. If anyone has seen exactly this, please post the link. I have not. I have seen numerous lists that have many items, often "arcane" ones as OI states above. I know that there are also thousands of data points as well, hence the effort. If these points have blatant video evidence or irrefutable eye witness testimony from indisputable sources it would be good. Otherwise, simple logical "impossibilities" are also good. They should include the points that are the "biggest bang for the buck." I also know that many "financial coincidences" also fit the bill. I thought we could brainstorm this together. I will keep a "top-50" list, and anyone else can feel free to do the same obviously. But I thought a concentrated thread wherein only such data points are included and discussion related to them. It would be good to limit the thread to only that to avoid unnecessary clutter in a thread that will probably end up being quite large. Thoughts? Already been done? (Where?)
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#6. To: Eric Stratton (#0)
Oh no.... not another TWOOFER_FAERIE™ thread!
Arguing with them is like playing "Whack A Mole." Hit them on one point in one place, they pop up out of another hole in another place. Still want to know why
what we really want to know is what is on all those videos from around the pentagon that were confiscated, what is the liar movement trying to hide?
@45 ... there is LIVE footage showing thousands of Pentagon workers looking at the disaster.
Where are the videos of the approach and the impact? Oh, and what evidence is there that Hani Hanjour flew that aircraft?
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Oh, and what evidence is there that Hani Hanjour flew that aircraft? ? DO you know of any evidence indicating Hani Hanjour was onboard that aircraft, and that he took control of the plane and flew it from Ohio to Washington DC?
Yes.
You: Yes. Post it then, with a credible source. By evidence, I mean something like proof that he checked in, or perhaps even bought a ticket for the flight.
By evidence, I mean something like proof that he checked in, or perhaps even bought a ticket for the flight. Sure. Here is the link to FLT77's official passenger list. You can click on it.
#209. To: buckeroo (#205)
So the person claiming to be Hanjour had a fake ID. Hmmm, so was the person getting the fake ID the REAL Hani Hanjour?
Now is there any proof that the person calling himself Hanjour even boarded that plane? I mean, did he checkin, or did he just have a ticket and missed his flight?
Well lookie here, the original news reports stated that Hanjour didn't show up on the flight manifest since he might not have had a ticket.... From The Washington Post
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#13. To: buckeroo (#6)
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Oh no.... not another TWOOFER_FAERIE™ thread!
(1) A 1/2 G turn is supposed to be evidence of "fighter pilot skills" when student pilots must do 2G turns to get licensed and fighter pilots regularly pull 8+ G's,
Nyuk, nyuk.
(2) Descending at 46.667 feet per second or 31.818 miles per hour is supposed to be evidence of "fighter pilot skills," when you descend faster than that on a roller coaster,
(3) How an aircraft controller trying to track a plane with its transponder off, and which completely disappears from the radar screen half way through its descending turn, is able to accurately describe the completed turn as a "precision turn" when the ATC doesn't even see the last half of the turn
#130. To: AGAviator (#13)
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#132. To: IRTorqued (#130)
what we really want to know is what is on the video from around the pentagon that was confiscated, what is the liar movement trying to hide?
#134. To: buckeroo, IRTorqued (#132)
@45 ... there is LIVE footage showing thousands of Pentagon workers looking at the disaster.
#135. To: FormerLurker (#134)
Oh, and what evidence is there that Hani Hanjour flew that aircraft?
#138. To: buckeroo (#135)
#200. To: FormerLurker, AGAviator (#138)
DO you know of any evidence indicating Hani Hanjour was onboard that aircraft [AAFLT77, flight from IAD to LAX (pushed back from Gate D26 at 08:09 AM and took off from Runway 30 at Dulles at 08:20 AM) on Tuesday September 11, 2001], and that he took control of the plane and flew it from Ohio to Washington DC?
#203. To: buckeroo, AGaviator, ALL (#200)
Me: DO you know of any evidence indicating Hani Hanjour was onboard that aircraft, and that he took control of the plane and flew it from Ohio to Washington DC?
#205. To: FormerLurker (#203)
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Post it then, with a credible source.
Replies to Comment # 205. NEWARK, New Jersey (CNN) -- Federal prosecutors charged a Jordanian man with participating in a fake ID ring that helped several September 11 hijackers obtain bogus driver's licenses and identification cards, prosecutors said Wednesday.
#210. To: buckeroo (#205)
#211. To: buckeroo, AGAviator, Original_Intent, All (#205)
Hani Hanjour
Obtained a commercial pilot's license in April 1999 from the Federal Aviation Administration. The license expired six months later because he failed to complete a required medical exam. In 1996, he received flight training for a few months at a private school in Scottsdale, Ariz., but did not finish the course because his instructors thought he was not proficient enough. He listed his address as a post office box in Taife, Saudi Arabia, but he also has been linked to addresses in San Diego and Hollywood, Fla. His name was not on the American Airlines manifest for the flight because he may not have had a ticket.
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