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Post Date: 2010-08-01 09:57:39 by Eric Stratton
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What I would suggest is to start a thread on the subject of 911 coincidences and explain in the header essay what you are looking for i.e., "coincidences" that are not arcane and that can be communicated simply to raw public.
Poster Comment: Per OI's suggestion, that is what I've undertaken. I have come to the conclusion that the final nails into the coffin of our Republic are being conducted with neocons holding the hammer, willfully and gleefully as our Republik more than slowly becomes a totalitarian state on steroids. I have also come to the unfortunate conclusion that it is primarily for lack of serious personal investigation, willful negligence and ignorance in essence, as the reasons why they believe the official Fairy Tale. They've never seriously looked into the matter, only superficially, and they've been driven by how their political "heroes" in the GOP have responded to the "twoofers;" Lameblow, Hammity, Palin, Junior, Cheney, etc., etc. Granted, now Hussein is in office and they are blaming his cadre of people for merely continuing on in the BuchCo. legacy, but nevertheless, it is driven primarily by support for "national security," which we all here realize is really "federal government and NWO elite security," and which is all spun off of this notion that there are terrorists lurking around every street corner waiting to blow us all up when if that were even remotely true it'd have been done a thousand times already since 9/11. Instead, it's only happened a statistically insignificant number of times. It's clear that they're never going to spend as much time researching this as we all do here. After all, they have socials and far more important things to attend to and investments to take care of so that they can all retire when they're 50-years old and play golf five days a week until they die and therefore cannot be inconvenienced to actually consider why they may be lucky to have a set of clubs in five years and access to a course. So what I thought I would do is attempt to piece together a list of between 20 and 50 items that can be read within say a half-hour and that when considered individually really give cause for people to wonder about it all. 9/11 that is. But that when taken collectively, make them only ask "how can that all be if the Fairy Tale is actually true?" Obviously no one can force another to look, but what can be done is to make the top 20-50 points very easy to access and point out and ingest within a short period of time. This should be a "Reader's Digest" Short-list version if you will. Do I think that this is going to be the difference? No. I think that our Republic is toast in a major way regardless with much pain and suffering on the immediate horizon. But I also think that there's a very small window, and ever diminishing one, wherein which if all goes perfectly, perhaps there is at least a degree of hope, and God willing. If anyone has seen exactly this, please post the link. I have not. I have seen numerous lists that have many items, often "arcane" ones as OI states above. I know that there are also thousands of data points as well, hence the effort. If these points have blatant video evidence or irrefutable eye witness testimony from indisputable sources it would be good. Otherwise, simple logical "impossibilities" are also good. They should include the points that are the "biggest bang for the buck." I also know that many "financial coincidences" also fit the bill. I thought we could brainstorm this together. I will keep a "top-50" list, and anyone else can feel free to do the same obviously. But I thought a concentrated thread wherein only such data points are included and discussion related to them. It would be good to limit the thread to only that to avoid unnecessary clutter in a thread that will probably end up being quite large. Thoughts? Already been done? (Where?)
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#64. To: buckeroo, Eric Stratton, christine (#62)
Don't lie buckie, you know I didn't ping christine to anything YOU said on that thread. It was your pal who was getting more than just a bit vulgar to a lady on that thread, and I basically just thought it was over the top, so I DID ping her to one of those posts for her information.
How about putting both of us on filter? Or are you supposed to have done that already...
---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- LOL, what does that fake vid of bin Laden have to do with those "hijackers", some of whom are still alive, knowing where an aircraft would be virtually invisible due to lack of primary FAA radar in that particular area?
Speak of a continuous liar that has admitted his own BS in the past.... But did I say: No, I didn't. You just make stuff up ALL the time.... and again, you are caught.
"we ought to lay off the criticism" -- Pinguinite, circa 2010-05-26 22:17:22 ET
Other than you with zero substantiation, who says it's fake... Bin Ladin in October 2004 was telling the US on international TV that if it continued its path, it would be facing bankruptcy. Now going on 6 years later, the US is facing war costs exceeding $1 Trillion with no end in sight, and is looking at bankruptcty.
---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Any reason been floated as to why that was? Well, on the South Tower the top section broke off and was falling as a complete unit. Why is a good question. Possibly there was a limited structural failure from the impact damage, or some of the demolition charges were set off prematurely by the impact. The exact why is unknown and without a forensic examination, made impossible by disposing of the debris under guard (to China - despite higher domestic bids for scrap steel) to prevent a forensic exam, we are left to infer from the observed events. Be that as it may the top began tipping over and and toppling as a complete unit as one would expect in an ordinary catastrophic collapse. There was no pancaking and no microfine concrete dust. In other words it looked like a normal catastrophic collapse. Had it been allowed to continue the tower top sections that were toppling would have fallen over like a tree and then I would expect it to begin to disintegrate as it approached perpendicular as the load bearing structure was designed to stand up straight and when you tip it over the structure is not designed to face gravity at that angle. Now, if were allowed to continue to completion then that shoots the "Pancakes and Syrup" theory all to hell and back. So, the South Tower's demolition charges were set off early and if you watch the film you can see the building under the tipping section collapse thus removing the wedge it was pivoting on and so it falls straight down from that point. So, the early collapse of the South Tower is a clear sign of explosive demolition once you recognize what you are looking at. You can find an entire series of videos of the South Tower collapse here.
"One of the least understood strategies of the world revolution now moving rapidly toward its goal is the use of mind control as a major means of obtaining the consent of the people who will be subjects of the New World Order." K.M. Heaton, The National Educator
this same crap is happening all over the internet - 2-3 posts by real people asking reasonable questions and/or offering info bits, only to be invaded by these ? whatever they are distracting everything, sometimes paid shills i think,sometimes just assholes, I met a few of them in RL - they laugh and brag about disrupting forums, it's a hobby for them ~ good luck finding/creating a place free from their garabage
What makes you so certain that it is "fake?"
"we ought to lay off the criticism" -- Pinguinite, circa 2010-05-26 22:17:22 ET
A so-called "lady" who acted as a cheerleader and cadence counter for a bunch of gaybanter circle jerk remarks.
---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- What are your sources for this claim? Do you have a link in terms of the "plane disappearing" from radar while over Washington half way into its descending turn? I don't think there IS a link, because the claim is false. CBS News reported that the radar tapes indicate the plane descended in a tight spiral, and did not say anything about the "plane disappearing from radar half way through its descending turn". From CBS News Top government officials have suggested that American Airlines Flight 77 was originally headed for the White House and possibly circled the Capitol building. CBS News Transportation Correspondent Bob Orr reports that's not what the recorded flight path shows. Eight minutes before the crash, at 9:30 a.m. EDT, radar tracked the plane as it closed to within 30 miles of Washington. Sources say the hijacked jet continued east at a high speed toward the city, but flew several miles south of the restricted airspace around the White House. At 9:33 the plane crossed the Capitol Beltway and took aim on its military target. But the jet, flying at more than 400 mph, was too fast and too high when it neared the Pentagon at 9:35. The hijacker-pilots were then forced to execute a difficult high-speed descending turn. Radar shows Flight 77 did a downward spiral, turning almost a complete circle and dropping the last 7,000 feet in two-and-a-half minutes. The steep turn was so smooth, the sources say, it's clear there was no fight for control going on. And the complex maneuver suggests the hijackers had better flying skills than many investigators first believed. The jetliner disappeared from radar at 9:37 and less than a minute later it clipped the tops of street lights and plowed into the Pentagon at 460 mph. Some eyewitnesses believe the plane actually hit the ground at the base of the Pentagon first, and then skidded into the building. Investigators say that's a possibility, which if true, crash experts say may well have saved some lives. At the White House Friday, spokesman Ari Fleischer saw it a different way. "That is not the radar data that we have seen," Fleischer said, adding, "The plane was headed toward the White House." Ten days after the hijacked airliner slammed into the Pentagon, leaving 189 people dead or missing including those on the plane, and gouging a giant smoky slice out of the world's biggest office building, some 300 people were looking for clues. Officials said no survivors had been taken out of the building since the day of the crash and 104 people have been identified. Rescue crews have turned over the operational control of the crash site to the FBI. The transfer clears the way for the criminal investigation to intensify. Additional human remains are expected to be recovered during the criminal investigation at the site, which could last for a month. The fire chief in Arlington County, Va., says all areas of the Pentagon (with the exception of the fourth- and fifth-floor corridors of the three outer rings) have been released to the Department of Defense. The last civilian urban search-and-rescue team was leaving the site Friday. Military engineers from the Army's Fort Belvoir completed their work Friday morning It's quite clear how honest YOU are bucko.
And what was the purpose of the war in Iraq? BTW, why do you think the hijackers decided to take over Flight 77 just as it entered an area where primary radar was not available? Hmmm, let me think. Perhaps so they could pull a SWITCHEROO between the real Flight 77 and some other aircraft, eh?
You need not tell me about that, I saw the crap thrown at you (and me) for simply asking FACTS ... and all of a sudden, WHAM! by piles of posters .... we are called anything but serious posters looking for a grain of truth within this conspiracy theory. Nope, we were called all kinds of vindictive things (often behind our backs) that have no truth or method of evidence. It's a wonder the thread still exits on 4um.
"we ought to lay off the criticism" -- Pinguinite, circa 2010-05-26 22:17:22 ET
You mean the one that brought a tear to everyone's eyes from laughing at buck of the loose screw?
Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end. He (Gordon Duff) also implies that forcibly removing Obama, a Constitution-hating, on-the-down-low, crackhead Communist, is an attack on America, Mom, and apple pie. I swear these military people are worse than useless. Just look around at the condition of the country and tell me if they have fulfilled their oaths to protect the nation from all enemies foreign and domestic. Hey there, FL...wanna rassle?!
Devolve Power Outta the Federal Leviathan and Back to the States, bin Laden initially said he had nothing to do with the 9/11 attacks. He is also reported to have died in December 2001.
What's up Mudboy, haven't seen you around here for quite some time.
The video you posted yourself at #45 denies that anonymous charge at 2:45. There is evidence, however, that at least one of the Five Dancing Israelis arrested that day wanted us to believe that the Palestinians were our problem.
------- "They're on our left, they're on our right, they're in front of us, they're behind us...they can't get away this time." -- Col. Puller, USMC
Unlike yourself, running around for over 50 posts ... begging for detailed data because you don't know how to use the Internet, I showed the documents which deflated your off-subject remarcks concerning credentials about Hani Hanjour. You eventually admitted you were wrong (as usual).... For myself, I research before jumping in and making an issue. Sure, the information AND my perspective is not agreeable. It NEVER has been depending on the subject matter or the folks I address.
"we ought to lay off the criticism" -- Pinguinite, circa 2010-05-26 22:17:22 ET
They let anyone in here...
I ran out of smart sounding quotes Well, according to Paul Wofowitz, highly placed Bush Admin Joo and gadabout international banker, it was so the Iraqis could throw flowers at American feet for liberating them from Saddam, put their huge oil production online to keep world oil prices down, and generate enough oil revenue to pay completely for the American occupation and war of their country. And of course have no Iranian influence contaminating the American progress. Care to comment on how any of those comments, which are the real "Official Government Story," have panned out? There are no areas where "primary radar is not available" when transponders are transmitting. You're going to have to do better than that....
---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- I know. What is important to point out is that Palestinians AND MUSLIMA around the world were doing their LA_LA_LA_LA all over Palestine IMMEDIATELY after the attacks. Complicity? Of course.
"we ought to lay off the criticism" -- Pinguinite, circa 2010-05-26 22:17:22 ET
"...we were called all kinds of vindictive things (often behind our backs) that have no truth or method of evidence." SUX, doesn't it, Bill?! "It's a wonder the thread still exits on 4um." No bucky, that's not the way to approach the truth...please ping me to the thread in question and i will examine the evidence and render a final verdict...and we can put all this silly ugliness behind us. We R all on the same side...unless U really have become and radical Leftist Marxist ideologue like I've often rumored (and YOU've denied)...Bush, Sr.....Slick Willie......Dubyuh...............and the friggin' RAT-Messiah...can't we all git along and realize the only way outta this mess is to shrink the hell outta DeeCee and its seemingly limitless influence over our lives?! Regards...MUD
Devolve Power Outta the Federal Leviathan and Back to the States, I'm often described as a serial abuser of the first amendment, mi amigo...MUD BTW...Sultan88 ROCKS!!
Devolve Power Outta the Federal Leviathan and Back to the States, There you go, back to YOUR gaybanter again. You are the one who starts these things, that and your little puppy bucko. Then you both start crying little girl tears when people respond in kind, posting pages and pages of inane ad hominem junk, muddying up the thread, then say it was "incredible" and you "refuted" everything that was presented in terms of facts. No, all you did was show how incredibly dumb and dishonest you are.
Yeah, ownership's been FREEEEEEZING all my best threads...U know how it is when ya gotta fight TheMan at every turn...MUD
Devolve Power Outta the Federal Leviathan and Back to the States, I mean when the transponder ISN'T transmitting. That's what the 9/11 Commission listed as the reason the FAA couldn't track Flight 77 as it flew into Ohio, as shortly after the transponder was turned off, the primary return disappeared from radar. It was explained as a lack of primary radar capabilities in that area.
ROTFL ... a final verdict? .... the thread we are talking about freedom4um.com/cgi-bin/re...gi?ArtNum=120727&Disp=All went for 1200 posts before being locked.
"we ought to lay off the criticism" -- Pinguinite, circa 2010-05-26 22:17:22 ET
Do like me and just assume everything you say is wise and the rest of the krap just sorta falls into place...MUD
Devolve Power Outta the Federal Leviathan and Back to the States, Surely other sites are sorely in need of Aggravators and Buck's limitless supply of wisdumb. They have already shared too much of it here and should go where their "stellar" buffoonery will be appreciated.
Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end. He (Gordon Duff) also implies that forcibly removing Obama, a Constitution-hating, on-the-down-low, crackhead Communist, is an attack on America, Mom, and apple pie. I swear these military people are worse than useless. Just look around at the condition of the country and tell me if they have fulfilled their oaths to protect the nation from all enemies foreign and domestic. Asking for proof isn't "being wrong", and since you and AgAviator weren't posting the proof, I assumed it didn't exist. So ok, there is proof that Hanjour had an actual FAA license (although ALL indications point to the fact he SHOULDN'T have had one). You take a molehill and try to make a mountain out of it.
ROTFL...I figgered you'd appreciate the irony, dude...I recall back when you usedta have a helluva sense of humor...mud
Devolve Power Outta the Federal Leviathan and Back to the States, Exactly, a combination of shills and morons. The Shills and their masters very much do not like We The People holding forth in an intelligent exchange because that is the enemy of propaganda.
"One of the least understood strategies of the world revolution now moving rapidly toward its goal is the use of mind control as a major means of obtaining the consent of the people who will be subjects of the New World Order." K.M. Heaton, The National Educator
That is because all he has is molehills. He has made one point stand while a hundred have fallen. His fragile ego can't handle it, and his fixed ideas won't let him change his "mind".
"One of the least understood strategies of the world revolution now moving rapidly toward its goal is the use of mind control as a major means of obtaining the consent of the people who will be subjects of the New World Order." K.M. Heaton, The National Educator
Such as it is.
Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end. He (Gordon Duff) also implies that forcibly removing Obama, a Constitution-hating, on-the-down-low, crackhead Communist, is an attack on America, Mom, and apple pie. I swear these military people are worse than useless. Just look around at the condition of the country and tell me if they have fulfilled their oaths to protect the nation from all enemies foreign and domestic. Surely other sites are sorely in need of Aggravators and Buck's limitless supply of wisdumb. They have already shared too much of it here and should go where their "stellar" buffoonery will be appreciated. Freeptardia and Defective Underground?
"One of the least understood strategies of the world revolution now moving rapidly toward its goal is the use of mind control as a major means of obtaining the consent of the people who will be subjects of the New World Order." K.M. Heaton, The National Educator
Agreed. I know. That is PROOF you can't perform your own research which substantiates my earlier post. And that same certification PROVES, that Hanjour was trained to some extent to slam a jet into a building. It is easy to come clean, FL... you are among friends looking for truth.
"we ought to lay off the criticism" -- Pinguinite, circa 2010-05-26 22:17:22 ET
LOL! (And I nailed "100" without even trying - eat your heart out wud.)
"One of the least understood strategies of the world revolution now moving rapidly toward its goal is the use of mind control as a major means of obtaining the consent of the people who will be subjects of the New World Order." K.M. Heaton, The National Educator
The thread history, which is clearly time and date stamped by poster, puts the lie to your false claims. That's why your cohorts are complaining buck & show up here to reply to your behind-the-backs, hopeless liar.
---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Those are good choices for them.
Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end. He (Gordon Duff) also implies that forcibly removing Obama, a Constitution-hating, on-the-down-low, crackhead Communist, is an attack on America, Mom, and apple pie. I swear these military people are worse than useless. Just look around at the condition of the country and tell me if they have fulfilled their oaths to protect the nation from all enemies foreign and domestic.
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#65. To: buckeroo (#53)
Should I ask Christine to intercede as FL did back on the demolition theory thread?
"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
#66. To: Eric Stratton, buckeroo (#62)
Any chance of getting a private thread somewhere? I don't think that the s/w allows it.
One of the major consequences of the 9/11 movement has been to draw enormous amounts of energy and effort away from activism directed to real and ongoing crimes of state, and their institutional background, crimes that are far more serious than blowing up the WTC would be, if there were any credibility to that thesis. That is, I suspect, why the 9/11 movement is treated far more tolerantly by centers of power than is the norm for serious critical and activist work....Noam Chomsky
#67. To: AGAviator (#44)
OBL October 2004 TV Transcript
"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
#68. To: FormerLurker (#65)
Don't lie buckie, you know I didn't ping christine to anything YOU said on that thread. It was your pal who was getting more than just a bit vulgar to a lady on that thread, and I basically just thought it was over the top, so I DID ping her to one of those posts for her information.
to anything YOU said on that thread.
#69. To: FormerLurker (#67)
LOL, what does that fake vid of bin Laden have to do with those "hijackers",
One of the major consequences of the 9/11 movement has been to draw enormous amounts of energy and effort away from activism directed to real and ongoing crimes of state, and their institutional background, crimes that are far more serious than blowing up the WTC would be, if there were any credibility to that thesis. That is, I suspect, why the 9/11 movement is treated far more tolerantly by centers of power than is the norm for serious critical and activist work....Noam Chomsky
#70. To: Eric Stratton, FormerLurker, wudidiz, all (#38)
As well the building hit first, with the most direct damage to the core, fell AFTER the South Tower which was hit second and based on the exit angle of the nose of the plane (where the fireball occurred) it suffered less damge, and yet it collapsed first.
#71. To: Eric Stratton (#62)
~ the truth will set ya free, but only after it pisses ya off ~
#72. To: FormerLurker (#67)
what does that fake vid of bin Laden have to do with those "hijackers"
#73. To: buckeroo (#68)
It was your pal who was getting more than just a bit vulgar to a lady on that thread
One of the major consequences of the 9/11 movement has been to draw enormous amounts of energy and effort away from activism directed to real and ongoing crimes of state, and their institutional background, crimes that are far more serious than blowing up the WTC would be, if there were any credibility to that thesis. That is, I suspect, why the 9/11 movement is treated far more tolerantly by centers of power than is the norm for serious critical and activist work....Noam Chomsky
#74. To: AGAviator, GreyLmist, Original_Intent, Eric Stratton, wudidiz, HOUNDDAWG, ALL (#17)
(3) How an aircraft controller trying to track a plane with its transponder off, and which completely disappears from the radar screen half way through its descending turn, is able to accurately describe the completed turn as a "precision turn" when the ATC doesn't even see the last half of the turn
(CBS) New radar evidence obtained by CBS News strongly suggests that the hijacked jetliner which crashed into the Pentagon hit its intended target.
"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
#75. To: buckeroo, HOUNDDAWG, ALL (#68)
Speak of a continuous liar that has admitted his own BS in the past....
"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
#76. To: AGAviator (#69)
Now going on 6 years later, the US is facing war costs exceeding $1 Trillion with no end in sight, and is looking at bankruptcty.
"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
#77. To: AGAviator (#73)
A so-called "lady" who acted as a cheerleader and cadence counter for a bunch of gaybanter circle jerk remarks.
#78. To: abraxas (#58)
lol.......you mean that thread that was on the verge of "stellar"?
Lord Acton
OsamaBinGoldstein posted on 2010-05-25 9:39:59 ET (2 images) Reply Trace
#79. To: FormerLurker (#76)
Localities, and Individuals as Prescribed in the U.S. Constitution!!
#80. To: buckeroo (#72)
What makes you so certain that it is "fake?"
"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
#81. To: Mudboy Slim (#79)
"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
#82. To: buckeroo (#46)
Since the "Democratic Front for the Liberation of Palestine" claimed responsibility ... as a result of Osama bin Laden insistence, it is amazing that you think that ANY US agency was involved.
#83. To: FormerLurker (#75)
It's quite clear how honest YOU are bucko.
#84. To: FormerLurker, Mudboy Slim (#81)
#85. To: FormerLurker, buckeroo (#76)
(Edited)
And what was the purpose of the war in Iraq?
BTW, why do you think the hijackers decided to take over Flight 77 just as it entered an area where primary radar was not available?
One of the major consequences of the 9/11 movement has been to draw enormous amounts of energy and effort away from activism directed to real and ongoing crimes of state, and their institutional background, crimes that are far more serious than blowing up the WTC would be, if there were any credibility to that thesis. That is, I suspect, why the 9/11 movement is treated far more tolerantly by centers of power than is the norm for serious critical and activist work....Noam Chomsky
#86. To: GreyLmist (#82)
The video you posted yourself at #45 denies that anonymous charge at 2:45.
#87. To: buckeroo (#77)
Localities, and Individuals as Prescribed in the U.S. Constitution!!
#88. To: wudidiz (#84)
(Edited)
Localities, and Individuals as Prescribed in the U.S. Constitution!!
#89. To: AGAviator, ALL (#73)
a bunch of gaybanter circle jerk remarks
"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
#90. To: FormerLurker, christine, Jethro Tull (#81)
"...haven't seen you around here for quite some time."
Localities, and Individuals as Prescribed in the U.S. Constitution!!
#91. To: AGAviator, All (#85)
There are no areas where "primary radar is not available" when transponders are transmitting.
"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
#92. To: Mudboy Slim (#87)
that's not the way to approach the truth...please ping me to the thread in question and i will examine the evidence and render a final verdict
#93. To: wudidiz (#84)
"I ran out of smart sounding quotes..."
Localities, and Individuals as Prescribed in the U.S. Constitution!!
#94. To: Eric Stratton (#43)
PS Perhaps you and Agitator can do the rest of us a favor and dispense with your guys' sociopathic tendencies here, honor our requests, and let us kooks discuss this without your or his romper room interference please?
Lord Acton
OsamaBinGoldstein posted on 2010-05-25 9:39:59 ET (2 images) Reply Trace
#95. To: buckeroo (#83)
You eventually admitted you were wrong (as usual)....
"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
#96. To: buckeroo (#92)
Localities, and Individuals as Prescribed in the U.S. Constitution!!
#97. To: Amandil (#71)
this same crap is happening all over the internet - 2-3 posts by real people asking reasonable questions and/or offering info bits, only to be invaded by these ? whatever they are distracting everything, sometimes paid shills i think,sometimes just assholes, I met a few of them in RL - they laugh and brag about disrupting forums, it's a hobby for them ~ good luck finding/creating a place free from their garabage
#98. To: FormerLurker, buckeroo (#95)
You take a molehill and try to make a mountain out of it.
#99. To: Original_Intent (#98)
His fragile ego can't handle it, and his fixed ideas won't let him change his "mind".
Lord Acton
OsamaBinGoldstein posted on 2010-05-25 9:39:59 ET (2 images) Reply Trace
#100. To: James Deffenbach, Eric Stratton (#94)
PS Perhaps you and Agitator can do the rest of us a favor and dispense with your guys' sociopathic tendencies here, honor our requests, and let us kooks discuss this without your or his romper room interference please?
#101. To: FormerLurker (#95)
Asking for proof isn't "being wrong"
and since you and AgAviator weren't posting the proof, I assumed it didn't exist.
So ok, there is proof that Hanjour had an actual FAA license (although ALL indications point to the fact he SHOULDN'T have had one).
#102. To: James Deffenbach, wudidiz (#99)
#103. To: FormerLurker, buckeroo (#89)
There you go, back to YOUR gaybanter again. You are the one who starts these things, that and your little puppy bucko. Then you both start crying little girl tears when people respond in kind, posting pages and pages of inane ad hominem junk, muddying up the thread, then say it was "incredible" and you "refuted" everything that was presented in terms of facts.
Then you both start crying little girl tears when people respond in kind,
One of the major consequences of the 9/11 movement has been to draw enormous amounts of energy and effort away from activism directed to real and ongoing crimes of state, and their institutional background, crimes that are far more serious than blowing up the WTC would be, if there were any credibility to that thesis. That is, I suspect, why the 9/11 movement is treated far more tolerantly by centers of power than is the norm for serious critical and activist work....Noam Chomsky
#104. To: Original_Intent (#100)
Freeptardia and Defective Underground?
Lord Acton
OsamaBinGoldstein posted on 2010-05-25 9:39:59 ET (2 images) Reply Trace
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