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Title: Florida church’s ‘Burn a Koran Day’ brings Islamist threats
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Raw Story
URL Source: http://rawstory.com/rs/2010/0731/ch ... ondemn-churchs-burn-koran-day/
Published: Aug 1, 2010
Author: Daniel Tencer
Post Date: 2010-08-01 20:14:37 by abraxas
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Views: 9038
Comments: 72
Florida church’s ‘Burn a Koran Day’ brings Islamist threats By Daniel Tencer Saturday, July 31st, 2010 -- 8:04 pm The controversy over the construction of a mosque near Ground Zero in Manhattan has sparked a wave of anti-Muslim activism among some conservative and religious groups, and nowhere is that more in evidence than in a non-denominational church's plan to hold a "Burn a Koran Day" on the next anniversary of the 9/11 attacks. Muslim advocacy groups and evangelical Christian organizations alike have condemned the Dove World Outreach Center in Gainesville, Florida, for its plans to commemorate the ninth anniversary of the 9/11 attacks with a day for burning Islam's holy book. And at least one jihadist organization has promised revenge if the event goes ahead as planned. "On September 11th, 2010, from 6pm - 9pm, we will burn the Koran on the property of Dove World Outreach Center in Gainesville, FL in remembrance of the fallen victims of 9/11 and to stand against the evil of Islam," says the church's Facebook page. "Islam is of the devil!" The church has drawn condemnation from the National Association of Evangelicals, which said in a statement that "Burn a Koran Day" shows "disrespect for our Muslim neighbors and would exacerbate tensions between Christians and Muslims throughout the world." “It sounds like the proposed Koran burning is rooted in revenge," NAE President Leith Anderson said. "Yet the Bible says that Christians should ‘make sure that nobody pays back wrong for wrong, but always try to be kind to each other and to everyone else’ The church's plans have grabbed the attention of the Islamist movement. Members of the al-Falluja online forum have reportedly promised to "spill rivers of your (American) blood" if the event goes forward. But the church is holding steadfast in its position. "We believe that Islam is ... causing billions of people to go to hell, it is a deceptive religion, it is a violent religion and that is proven many, many times," Pastor Terry Jones told CNN. The church has also stirred controversy with its plans to protest Gainesville Mayor Craig Lowe, who is openly gay. And some former church members have accused the leadership of using the church's tax-exempt status for profit. The Gainesville Sun reported earlier this month: Former church members who have worshiped under senior pastors Terry and Sylvia Jones are speaking out about what they describe as financial abuses at the Dove World Outreach Center in Gainesville and its sister church in Cologne, Germany, founded by Terry Jones in 1981 and closed in 2008. By all accounts - the church's Web site, interviews with current and former members and Terry Jones' own description - the church in Gainesville, as was the one in Germany, is structured with a for-profit business operating out of tax-exempt church property, using the unpaid labor of church members to maintain a steady stream of merchandise for sale online. That structure has raised questions with the Alachua County Property Appraiser's Office, which has said it will investigate the church's tax-exempt status.
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#1. To: abraxas (#0)
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That's what I was thinking. Just doing onto others as they would have done to them, right?
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Problem is you can't have freedom of religion and then rush in and stop a "proliferation" of a certain religion. In many ways, the Muslims have a modesty that Christians might want to aspire to regain. All whom I have known have been kind and honest people, who teach their children fantastic values. My sister has had two exchange students, both Muslim. Initially, this concerned her and her husband, but now they intend to REQUEST Muslims because they are SO respectful and such good kids. They are told to do a chore ONCE and they always do it like clock work. They really respect all elders and strive to make their parents, even temporary parents, proud of them.
Does that include setting up terrorist training camps like the one found in Oregon? Extremely modest, those. Terribly so. Imagine the outrage at a Christian Terrorist Training Camp. People are already going nuts over Westboro Baptist and all they do is carry signs around looking like idiots.
Specifically, I was referring to the following definitions for modesty: 2.Reserve or propriety in speech, dress, or behavior. 3.Lack of pretentiousness; simplicity. I think Fundie Muslims are a lot like the Westboro Baptist Fundies.....all hardline for a few select quotes of text while ignoring the bulk of the teachings. Dogma prevails.
I accept that definition and stand by my comment. I also agree with your second comment entirely. Problem: There are presently many MANY more "Fundamentalist" Muslims than there are "Fundamentalist" Christians. Solution?
I disagree. The difference is that the Fundie Muslims will blow themselves up to make a point, taking many innocents with them. Whereas the fundamentalist Christians promote a holy war, attacking Iraq, Afghanistan, Pakistan, bombing Iran and funding Jewish settlements. All of which takes kills and displaces innocents, just not in this nation. There is no small number of Fundie Christians in this nation, in fact, there are MANY more Fundie Christians than Muslims. In Muslim nations, there are more Muslim Fundies. Solution: make them all study Buddhism : )
They also institute judicial disfigurement. I don't see where Christians in Government have imposed that since Christian Fundamentalism got going in the late 19th Century, but am willing to be corrected. I also don't see Christian Fundamentalists using stoning as a judicial punishment. I am willing to be corrected on that as well. I do know of various Christian Fundamentalist Groups that do very strange things in and among themselves, but so far they have not inflicted that on the General Population. Suffice it to say, the Christian Fundamentalists seem to be a preferable group of people to have around ... unless one happens to enjoy attending a good stoning or witnessing people being sliced up by their Government. The military matters will take care of themselves; the US will go broke and that will be the end of it. There are no worries there. Just wait and shortly there will be no more problems with that. However, judicial disfigurements and stonings will continue in the Islamic world.
And in this nation Christian Fundies will keep killing abortion doctors. One crazy CF opened fire in a church because he didn't like liberals. You find that fundies everywhere create distruction. CF's that create a cult type atmosphere will continue to sexually abuse young girls and keep them from being "tainted" from the worldly. Old bastards will continue to create CF cults in order to marry multiple young girls. Those old bastards will have sons who carry on the tradition--all right here in the USA. You want to make this a "comparative fundamentalist" discourse, but I do not. I believe that Muslim and Christian Fundementalists are equally dangerous. You can prefer one over the other if you like, I prefer to dislike BOTH equally and on the same merit or lack of merits if you will.
#55. To: abraxas (#54)
The difference between the Christian Fundamentalist and the Islamic Fundamentalist is that the Christian Fundamenatlist, when he goes off the reservation, is disowned by his own kind and punished appropriately. When an Islamic Fundamentalist goes off the reservation and kills a few hundred people (as opposed to your 'lone gunman' situation) that individual is lauded and praised. Now, before we continue, name me a single "Christian" country where judicial disfigurement or stoning is the law of the land. You are correct in saying they are both nasty critters, but the depths of nasty have a wide gulf between them. There is not a single "Christian Fundamentalist" nation on the planet with a Government putting their scriptures - all of them - into law. There are, however, several Islamic Fundamentalist nations where the religion IS the law. Therein is the difference between the two. Lone nutcase or Governmental Authority. Learn the difference between the two and learn to recognize it.
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#2. To: Eric Stratton (#1)
Following the example of Jesus by sticking a finger in the eye of sinners.
#5. To: abraxas (#2)
#7. To: Eric Stratton (#5)
As well, I'm disturbed by the proliferation of formal Islam in the states, but largely only because our FedGov, largely initiated under Junior, and now continued under Hussein, is pushing it.
#29. To: abraxas (#7)
In many ways, the Muslims have a modesty that Christians might want to aspire to regain.
How about the underwear bomber exposing himself in public as he did?
#30. To: mirage (#29)
#31. To: abraxas (#30)
#32. To: mirage (#31)
Problem: There are presently many MANY more "Fundamentalist" Muslims than there are "Fundamentalist" Christians.
#33. To: abraxas (#32)
The difference is that the Fundie Muslims will blow themselves up to make a point, taking many innocents with them.
#54. To: mirage (#33)
However, judicial disfigurements and stonings will continue in the Islamic world.
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