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Title: First Signs of Civil War in the US? Sheriff Tony DeMeo Threatens Force Against Federal Agents from Bureau of Land Mgmt
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Published: Aug 2, 2010
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Post Date: 2010-08-02 12:02:15 by christine
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#1. To: christine, all, *Shooters* (#0)

He's sheriff of Nye county Nevada. Hot damn! That is a cop that I can stand with!

Anyone interested in a road trip if the fucking feds try anything???

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PSUSA  posted on  2010-08-02   12:07:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: PSUSA (#1)

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The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one.

Eric Stratton  posted on  2010-08-02   12:11:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: christine (#0)

This happened several years ago. I knew Wayne Hage. He has since passed away and his family just won an award in his case against the federal government that had been initiated by Wayne years ago.

"The conscious and intelligent manipulation of the organized habits and opinions of the masses is an important element in democratic society. Those who manipulate this unseen mechanism of society constitute an invisible government which is the true ruling power of our country. ... We are governed, our minds are molded, our tastes formed, our ideas suggested, largely by men we have never heard of." Edward Bernays, Father of Public Relations

abraxas  posted on  2010-08-02   12:26:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: PSUSA (#1)

I'd love to go. This has to start somewhere. Lets see how it develops.

OBAMA'S CHERNOBYL

Spew, Baby, Spew

Jethro Tull  posted on  2010-08-02   12:31:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: 4um (#0)

www.cnsnews.com/news/article/70324

Arizona Sheriff: ‘Our Own Government Has Become Our Enemy’

Monday, August 02, 2010

By Penny Starr, Senior Staff Writer


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Pinal County (Ariz.) Sheriff Paul Babeu
(Correction: As initially posted, this story inaccurately said that Pinal County was contiguous with the Mexican border. It is in southern Arizona, but not on the border.)

http://(CNSNews.com)
– Pinal County (Ariz.) Sheriff Paul Babeu is hopping mad at the federal government.

Babeu told CNSNews.com that rather than help law enforcement in Arizona stop the hundreds of thousands of people who come into the United States illegally, the federal government is targeting the state and its law enforcement personnel.

“What’s very troubling is the fact that at a time when we in law enforcement and our state need help from the federal government, instead of sending help they put up billboard-size signs warning our citizens to stay out of the desert in my county because of dangerous drug and human smuggling and weapons and bandits and all these other things and then, behind that, they drag us into court with the ACLU,” Babeu said.

The sheriff was referring to the law suits filed by the American Civil Liberties Union and the U.S. Department of Justice challenging the state’s new immigration law.

“So who has partnered with the ACLU?” Babeu said in a telephone interview with CNSNews.com. “It’s the president and (Attorney General) Eric Holder himself. And that’s simply outrageous.”

Last week, U.S. District Judge Susan Bolton placed a temporary injunction on portions of the bill that allowed law enforcement personnel during the course of a criminal investigation who have probable cause to think an individual is in the country illegally to check immigration status. The state of Arizona filed an appeal on Thursday with the 9th Circuit Court of Appeals.

“Our own government has become our enemy and is taking us to court at a time when we need help,” Babeu said.

Babeu and Sheriff Larry Dever of Cochise County Ariz., spoke by phone with CNSNews.com last week about the May 17 ACLU class-action lawsuit , which charges the law uses racial profiling and named the county attorneys and sheriffs in all 15 Arizona counties as defendants. The Department of Justice filed a lawsuit on July 6, charging the Arizona law preempted the federal government’s sole right to enforce immigration law.

“If the president would do his job and secure the border; send 3,000 armed soldiers to the Arizona border and stop the illegal immigration and the drug smuggling and the violence, we wouldn’t even be in this position and where we’re forced to take matters into our own hands,” Babeu said.
Dever said the federal government’s failure to secure the border and its current thwarting of Arizona’s effort to control illegal immigration within its borders has implications for the entire country.


“The bigger picture is while what’s going on in Arizona is critically important, what comes out of this and happens here will affect our entire nation in terms of our ability to protect our citizenry from a very serious homeland security threat,” Dever said. “People who are coming across the border in my county aren’t staying there. They’re going everywhere USA and a lot of them are bad, bad people.”

According to U.S. Customs and Border Protection (CBP), about 250,000 people were detained in Arizona in the last 12 months for being in the country illegally. Babeu said that that number only reflects the number of people detained and that thousands more enter the country illegally each year.

The CBP also reports that 17 percent of those detained already have a criminal record in the United States.

Both Babeu and Dever said they want to remain involved in the legal battle over the law, which many experts predict will end up being decided by the U.S. Supreme Court.

Dever has hired an independent attorney to represent him in the ACLU case and his attorney has already filed a motion of intervention in the DOJ lawsuit so the “(Dever) will have a seat at the table.”

A Web site also has been launched by the non-profit, Iowa-based Legacy Foundation to raise money for the Babeu’s and Dever’s legal defense.

Both men said they believe the outcome of the case has national significance.“For us, this is a public safety matter and a national security threat,” Babeu said

OBAMA'S CHERNOBYL

Spew, Baby, Spew

Jethro Tull  posted on  2010-08-02   12:47:03 ET  (2 images) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: 4um (#0)

www.cnsnews.com/news/article/70324

Arizona Sheriff: ‘Our Own Government Has Become Our Enemy’

Monday, August 02, 2010

By Penny Starr, Senior Staff Writer


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Pinal County (Ariz.) Sheriff Paul Babeu
(Correction: As initially posted, this story inaccurately said that Pinal County was contiguous with the Mexican border. It is in southern Arizona, but not on the border.)

http://(CNSNews.com)
– Pinal C

OBAMA'S CHERNOBYL

Spew, Baby, Spew

Jethro Tull  posted on  2010-08-02   12:52:01 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: Jethro Tull (#4)

This has to start somewhere. Lets see how it develops.

Agreed ... the sheriff will probably deputize volunteers. (Screw the Feds).

"It is unfortunately none too well understood that, just as the State has no money of its own, so it has no power of its own. All power it has is what society gives it, plus what it confiscates from time to time on one pretext or another; there is no other source from which State power can be drawn.”

Albert Jay Nock

noone222  posted on  2010-08-02   12:52:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: abraxas (#3)

Wayne and Helen would not back down or submit.

RIP

Lod  posted on  2010-08-02   12:57:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: Lod (#8)

Wayne and Helen would not back down or submit.

They were TRUE patriots. Excellent people. : )

"The conscious and intelligent manipulation of the organized habits and opinions of the masses is an important element in democratic society. Those who manipulate this unseen mechanism of society constitute an invisible government which is the true ruling power of our country. ... We are governed, our minds are molded, our tastes formed, our ideas suggested, largely by men we have never heard of." Edward Bernays, Father of Public Relations

abraxas  posted on  2010-08-02   13:04:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: noone222 (#7)

Agreed ... the sheriff will probably deputize volunteers. (Screw the Feds).

Hopefully about 150 million of us. I volunteer to be deputizes and I'll pay my own way to Arizona.

The federal government has become the enemy of the citizens of this country. Why the Arizona governor nor groups of citizens haven't brought charges against the feds for taking the oath to protect us against all enedmies, both foreign and domestic, I can't figure.

The feds are lighting the fuse and all hell will soon break out. Very soon it appears.

LACUMO  posted on  2010-08-02   13:27:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: Jethro Tull (#5)

Last week, U.S. District Judge Susan Bolton placed a temporary injunction on portions of the bill that allowed law enforcement personnel during the course of a criminal investigation who have probable cause to think an individual is in the country illegally to check immigration status. The state of Arizona filed an appeal on Thursday with the 9th Circuit Court of Appeals.

US Constitution, Article III

Section 2. The judicial Power shall extend to all Cases, in Law and Equity, arising under this Constitution, the Laws of the United States, and Treaties made, or which shall be made, under their Authority;--to all Cases affecting Ambassadors, other public Ministers and Consuls;--to all Cases of admiralty and maritime Jurisdiction;--to Controversies to which the United States shall be a Party;--to Controversies between two or more States;--between a State and Citizens of another State;--between Citizens of different States;--between Citizens of the same State claiming Lands under Grants of different States, and between a State, or the Citizens thereof, and foreign States, Citizens or Subjects.

In all Cases affecting Ambassadors, other public Ministers and Consuls, and those in which a State shall be Party, the supreme Court shall have original Jurisdiction. In all the other Cases before mentioned, the supreme Court shall have appellate Jurisdiction, both as to Law and Fact, with such Exceptions, and under such Regulations as the Congress shall make....

Added emphasis mine

Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end.
Lord Acton

He (Gordon Duff) also implies that forcibly removing Obama, a Constitution-hating, on-the-down-low, crackhead Communist, is an attack on America, Mom, and apple pie. I swear these military people are worse than useless. Just look around at the condition of the country and tell me if they have fulfilled their oaths to protect the nation from all enemies foreign and domestic.
OsamaBinGoldstein posted on 2010-05-25 9:39:59 ET (2 images) Reply Trace

James Deffenbach  posted on  2010-08-02   15:14:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: James Deffenbach (#11)

I wonder if anyone has sent this info to the talking heads on Fox?

ndcorup  posted on  2010-08-02   18:54:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: ndcorup (#12)

I wonder if anyone has sent this info to the talking heads on Fox?

I have no idea. Maybe someone will.

Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end.
Lord Acton

He (Gordon Duff) also implies that forcibly removing Obama, a Constitution-hating, on-the-down-low, crackhead Communist, is an attack on America, Mom, and apple pie. I swear these military people are worse than useless. Just look around at the condition of the country and tell me if they have fulfilled their oaths to protect the nation from all enemies foreign and domestic.
OsamaBinGoldstein posted on 2010-05-25 9:39:59 ET (2 images) Reply Trace

James Deffenbach  posted on  2010-08-02   19:05:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: Eric Stratton (#2)

the POC sheriff of san patricio county texas leroy moody campaigns on a plank of increasing asset forfeitures ties with the feds, he and his department are a collection of douche bags.


the most factual thing ever posted by buckeroo
I have no freaking' clue. buckeroo posted on 2010-07-24 21:33:00 ET

IRTorqued  posted on  2010-08-02   22:51:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: IRTorqued (#14)

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The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one.

Eric Stratton  posted on  2010-08-02   23:27:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: Eric Stratton (#15)

are you asking if leroy is the person in either the video or the article out of Arizona? the answer to both are of course no, I'm just saying just because the county sheriff is the highest elected law enforcement doesn't mean they have the persons in their county at the top of their list of priorities. in fact how many sheriffs are there through out the various states of the united States of America and there are just these two who take their oath of office to heart? I for one know the sheriff of the county in which I domicile is a POC who would help the feds march over those living in this county.


the most factual thing ever posted by buckeroo
I have no freaking' clue. buckeroo posted on 2010-07-24 21:33:00 ET

IRTorqued  posted on  2010-08-02   23:53:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: christine (#0)

Encouraging. Let's hope the desire for the rule of law, recognition of what the federal government has become and testosterone is contagious.

Brian D  posted on  2010-08-03   6:26:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: IRTorqued (#16)

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The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one.

Eric Stratton  posted on  2010-08-03   7:16:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: abraxas (#3)

This happened several years ago. I knew Wayne Hage. He has since passed away and his family just won an award in his case against the federal government that had been initiated by Wayne years ago.

4um Post #218 at "9/11 for Dummies": Wadih el Hage

Wadih el Hage is also mentioned, along with Arizona, in the YouTube video "9/11 Prior Knowledge : 10 Minutes Of Your Time" here at 6:39.

Just wanted to cross-reference those notations on the offchance that the name "el Hage" might be a concoction to associate Wayne Hage's last name subconciously in America with villainy. Hage doesn't even sound like an Arabic name, imo, More like a play on the "Haji" insult for Arabs -- similar to "camel jockey" and such. Also, the Hebrew-type prefix "el" rather than the more Arabic "al" after "Wadih" is another part of that name which sounds fishy. The Wadi is a river water source between Egypt and Israel, iirc.

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"They're on our left, they're on our right, they're in front of us, they're behind us...they can't get away this time." -- Col. Puller, USMC

GreyLmist  posted on  2010-08-05   3:48:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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