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Title: Lou Dobbs Discusses ‘Anchor Babies’ With Megyn Kelly, But Defends 14th Amendment
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URL Source: http://www.mediaite.com/tv/lou-dobb ... y-but-defends-14th-ammendment/
Published: Aug 2, 2010
Author: by Colby Hall
Post Date: 2010-08-02 20:52:43 by HAPPY2BME-4UM
Ping List: *Illegal Immigration*     Subscribe to *Illegal Immigration*
Keywords: SB1070
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Lou Dobbs Discusses ‘Anchor Babies’ With Megyn Kelly, But Defends 14th Amendment

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A lot hay has been made by cable pundits and right of center politician of late, regarding the issue of the 14th Amendment, which essential claims that any child born in the United States is automatically a naturalized citizen, regardless of the immigration status of their parents. Recently Senators Lindsey Graham and John Kyl have considered eliminating birthright citizenship, which is the exact sort of controversy custom-made for cable news programming! Et Voilà – today Fox News host Megyn Kelly and Lou Dobbs discussed this very issue!

When he had his 7PM program on CNN, Dobbs was such a vocal critic of an ineffective illegal immigration, that some even criticized his rhetoric and passion as “jingoistic.” So its somewhat surprising that Dobbs (and to a lesser extent Kelly) come out against the opposition of the 14th Amendment, while also admitting the core problem with so-called “anchor babies” (the derisive term used to described naturalized citizens born to illegal immigrants.

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#1. To: HAPPY2BME-4UM (#0)

the real problem is not anchor babies, but the fact that employers to this day can easily hire as many illegal immigrants as they want with no penalty at all from the government. I don't watch Lou Dobbs, but I'd be surprised if he focuses people's minds on that simple fact. Puppets in the media (like Lou Dobbs) and republican politicians try to tell us that all will be well when we 'get control of the border' by putting huge resources onto it and at the same time allow 'guest workers'. Guest workers are just semi-slaves, think of them as indentured servants which were a pre-cursor for outright slavery.

But equally urgent for the cause of justice is the plight of the illegals who have been here for years and put down roots, yet may not be allowed to stay under reasonable conditions. I'm with Ronald Reagan, I think that if a person has lived in this country for any length of time and held a job, then we should not only let them stay, but let them be citizens without being guest workers first.

The illegals were invited here in 1986 by republican legislation that took all penalties from employers for hiring them. When the government decides to pass laws giving harm to the employers for hiring illegals, then that is when they will not be welcome here.

An illegal immigrant working here and living here can be given great harm either by state law enforcement or federal law enforcement. But the employer is not harmed. In Arizona we have laws that penalize employers for hiring illegals. It is very difficult for employers to get caught in that trap. And if they are caught the penalties are very light. They escalate if you're caught more than once. I read in the paper about one employer who was caught 3 times. and they were caught hiring people that they knew were illegal, people whom the government had told them were illegal, they hired anyway. That company had to shut down its operations for 1 day after being caught the 3'rd time.

I am 100% certain that many employers in Arizona hire illegal immigrants every single day even today. I am 100% certain that they generally have no fear of the law at all.

Consider a person whom I know. He first came here in 1991 from Mexico. He became a very valuable person for his employer. His employer knows he's illegal, but they keep him anyway and they hire lots of his friends even today as new employees. He brought his family to Arizona from Mexico. He tried to get them to live here. But he found hostility to his family. that was unacceptable, he sent them home. and so 80% of his paycheck goes to Mexico. The Republicans would turn that fellow into an indentured servant and not let him ever be free. The Democrats as we know will go along with anything the republicans want.

It is very easy for the government to identify all illegals who get paychecks from employers. Most illegals work for paychecks and the taxes are withheld. For all the illegals who have been here even for a while and held a job we should simply make them choose between a road to US citizenship or else a one-way trip back to where they came. And we should likewise penalize employers who hire new illegals. But the existing illegals should be given the opportunity for citizenship. If they reject that opportunity which would include a renunciation of their previous citizenship, then they should be sent home.

but contrary to what these idiot republicans and their democrat friends want, we should not have indentured servants in our country. The guest workers will be de-facto indentured servants. It is an affront to our values to have indentured servants here. It drives wages down and destroys our economy. We learned that in pre-1865 southern states. Employers will always favor indentured servants who can't quit. Just like they will always prefer slaves who can't quit. That was proven in the old south. and it did not benefit the economy of the old south. When factories were made in the south the labor was always slave labor. Because business people could not imagine that free labor would be better than slave labor. Free labor though it cost more was better than slave labor. Slavery in 1800's old south was a lost cause in that the slaves were not productive. and yet they clung to it.

The same drama is being repeated today. We need guest workers to solve all of our problems because we don't have enough illegal immigrants. Free labor only - please!

Red Jones  posted on  2010-08-02   23:00:03 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

Thank you for all your comments.

All true.

Divert the attention away from the cause of the problem, and the problem continues to grow unabated.

As is the invasion from Mexico.

Reduce resistance to the invasion to a dull background noise and the problem goes away.

Money in the bank for the enablers and an endless supply of slaves.

PROBLEM: Americans want those jobs.

HAPPY2BME-4UM  posted on  2010-08-02   23:56:29 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

I want to be very clear with people - that because of my long-term experience in the construction industry here in Arizona I am 100% certain that many employers hire illegals every single day even now. There are construction sub-contractors that have thousands of employees with a large portion being illegal immigrants. there are no real penalties that these employers face.

Someone like John McCain will not even distinguish between an illegal who has been here for 20 years, filled a significant job, had a family here with his kids going through our schools and another person who might come here tomorrow illegally to get hired. John McCain wants employers to be able to hire people who come here today for the first time. and he wants to jail people who've done the work for 20 years and have kids here. That is insane.

For a person here in Phoenix where illegals are extremely common we are supposed to look at our neighbors who have kids in the local school and tell them that they are criminals and should be jailed. But if a new illegal were to come here tomorrow Senator McCain wants no penalties to employers who hire them.

and if you ask Senator McCain about it he will say we need guest workers. He wants the semi-slaves to come here. He just doesn't want them to be free. A society is not free unless workers are able to quit their employers and seek work elsewhere. Senator McCain wants a very significant portion of our work force to be non-free. Republicans (and also over on TPF discussion forum) they think that driving wages down is good for society. If we want prosperity, then we should use free labor and we should trade among ourselves rather than import when we can't afford to buy the imports. Today there is a huge gap between our imports and our exports. All of that gap is made up by borrowing money. This is very bad for our long-term welfare. We should produce ourselves and not be so eager to trade. Why is it that Republicans simply can't see that? And why is it that Democrats feel so compelled to agree with the republicans?? Suicide for our nation is OK, but changing our trade policies is not OK.

Red Jones  posted on  2010-08-03   0:35:27 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

Reasonable people can conclude that the illegal alien invasion is doing irreparable harm to much of the southwest both directly and indirectly.

A nation without borders is no longer a nation.

Construction contractors hiring illegals should be arrested, tried and incarcerated for a year for the first offense. The unregulated invasion from all over South America is frought with issues negatively impacting the entire country, not just Phoenix, or San Diego.

Crime and disease are serious enough but when these invading forces start threatening lawmen with assassination it's time to terminate them. Americans are generally peace lovers that simply wish to live their own lives and raise their own children in a tranquil environment.

Those hiring illegals are forcing others to pay the deficiencies in wages through taxes, increased insurance costs, increased medical costs and in many instances are forcing others out of business / jobs to save their own.

There is a solution and it isn't amnesty. Those requiring seasonal migrant labor should be allowed every reasonable opportunity to have them as soon as they are vetted. This shouldn't create anchor babies nor voting rights.

I don't think construction is an area where illegals should be allowed until we're certain these are jobs Americans won't do because I think they will do them.

And lastly, the economic conditions in America with respect to housing costs prevent some Americans from taking jobs that will leave them short of the ability to pay the mortgage or rent.

The mass invasion is dangerous to the safety and security of the nation, period.

The thought of an American Sheriff or other lawman being assassinated could lead to an actual war with Mexico. (And that may not be a bad idea.)

noone222  posted on  2010-08-03   8:02:03 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

Those hiring illegals are forcing others to pay the deficiencies in wages through taxes, increased insurance costs, increased medical costs and in many instances are forcing others out of business / jobs to save their own.

There is a solution and it isn't amnesty. Those requiring seasonal migrant labor should be allowed every reasonable opportunity to have them as soon as they are vetted. This shouldn't create anchor babies nor voting rights.

bingo

christine  posted on  2010-08-03   10:34:28 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

How was the concert ???

noone222  posted on  2010-08-03   10:43:42 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

absolutely awesome. a 3 hr high energy powerful performance. Melissa and her band are great musicians. she's very personable too. my son's gf and i had a blast though we were somewhat taken aback by the 90% lesbian audience. we were shocked at the number of fatty bulldykes.

christine  posted on  2010-08-03   10:50:36 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

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