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Title: A Danish Scientist breaks the 9/11 culture of silence
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Published: Aug 3, 2010
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Post Date: 2010-08-03 19:30:37 by tom007
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A Danish Scientist breaks the 9/11 culture of silence July 27, 2010 posted by Dr. Ashraf Ezzat · 49 Comments Share Many don’t know about tower 7, it collapsed in 6.5 seconds. It’s routine to look for thermite after fire, FBI didn’t. World trade center collapse is masterpiece demolition. WTC7, it collapsed in 6.5 seconds. “It was the best of times, it was the worst of times; it was the age of wisdom, it was the age of foolishness; it was the epoch of belief, it was the epoch of incredulity; it was the season of Light, it was the season of Darkness; it was the spring of hope, it was the winter of despair; we had everything before us, we had nothing before us; we were all going directly to Heaven, we were all going the other way.” - Charles Dickens, A Tale of two cities. …. on the morning of September 11, 2001, a great tragedy befell the city of new York, millions around the world watched- live- on their TV screens the tragic collapse of the world trade center twin towers in new York, and almost nine years has passed away, but still something seems amiss, we still feel as if we haven’t seen the end of this, as if we haven’t watched the true story yet. We stand confused, divided by two stories, an official story that is growing feebler and more naïve, and a conspiracy theory that is getting stronger and more persuasive with every passing day. Two contradicting and competing stories, of how and who did the 9/11 terrorist attacks on the city of New York, in what looks like the tale of two different cities. The official story Nine Years after Terror Attacks and the Public Still Doubts the 9/11 ‘Official Story’ Who brought down the Twin Towers? A bunch of crazy Arabs, members of “Al Qaeda”, a fundamentalist group that no one has ever heard of before, that’s who. This is the final cut of the official story of 9/11. At eleven o’clock, on the morning of September 11, the Bush administration had already announced that Al Qaeda was responsible for the attacks on the World Trade Center (WTC) and the Pentagon. This assertion was made prior to the conduct of an in-depth criminal investigation. The speedy and clumsy indictment of Al Qaeda, made the Bush administration looked guilty of knowing in advance that attacks were planned on or around Sept. 11, 2001, and that they consciously failed to act. So, according to the official scenario, Mohammed Atta and his fellow Arab supermen managed to evade detection by the mightiest intelligence agency in the whole world until the day they emblazoned their vengeance across the sky and pulled off the biggest terrorist attack in US history. In the wake of 9/11, the public opinion and civil society had swallowed the media lies and government propaganda. They had accepted a war of retribution against Afghanistan, an impoverished country of 30 million people. The more distance in time from the actual event, the odder such a scenario seems. Almost nine years to the day, the official account of 9/11 seems more vague –and inadequate – than ever. By keeping this official theory intact and credible, the 9/11 remains the pretext and justification for waging a war without borders. Only through this perspective the official story of 9/11 could make sense to a bewildered public. That, at least, is the official story. As to what the real story is – well; only science and time will tell. The conspiracy theory 9/11 conspiracy theories allege that the September 11 attacks in 2001 were either intentionally allowed to happen or were a false flag operation orchestrated by an organization with elements inside the United States government.[1] A poll taken in 2006 by Scripps Howard and Ohio University showed that, “More than a third of the American public suspects that federal officials assisted in the 9/11 terrorist attacks or took no action to stop them so the United States could go to war in the Middle East.”[2] The most prominent theory is that the collapse of the World Trade Center and 7 World Trade Center were the result of a controlled demolition rather than structural weakening due to fire. However, in short, and according to Anton Vodvarka, Lt. FDNY , a retired firefighter who was on duty on the morning of September 11, he says, the official explanation of the events of that day are not only insufficient, they are fantastic and cannot bear rational examination. We are asked to believe that on that day three structural steel buildings, which have never before in history collapsed because of fire, fell neatly into their basements at the speed of gravity, their concrete reduced to dust. We are asked to believe that jet fuel (kerosene) can melt steel. Trade Tower #7 by itself is the “smoking gun”. Not hit by an aircraft, with only a few relatively small fires, it came down in a classic crimp and implosion, going straight into its basement, something only very precise demolition can accomplish, which takes days if not weeks to prepare. The 9-11 Commission didn’t even mention it, and F.E.M.A. actually stated they DIDN’T KNOW WHY IT COLLAPSED AND LEFT IT AT THAT. But only scientists couldn’t leave it at this, they had to delve into this 9/11 affair and investigate it scientifically. With their critical minds, however, they will not be deterred, and will certainly home in on the many discrepancies and holes in the official version of events, as well as the central implausibility of the whole affair. The scientific theory Niels Harrit is an Associate Professor at the Department of Chemistry, University of Copenhagen. He wrote a feature article printed in the Danish Newspaper, “Information”, on 31 March 2007. It was titled “the seventh tower”. In his article he questions the 9/11 commission report regarding the alleged causes behind the collapse of the world trade center (WTC) towers especially the tower 7. And he elaborates on the subject as follows. Prof.Neills Harrit The seventh tower When tall buildings are exposed to extreme earthquakes, they tip over as they fall. If there is enough room, they sometimes tip right onto their sides. WTC7 collapsed exactly like a house of cards. If the fires or damage in one corner had played a decisive role, the building would have fallen in that direction. You don’t have to be a woodcutter to grasp this. It therefore wasn’t damage to the foundations that caused WTC7 to collapse. In the final FEMA report, WTC7 is hardly mentioned. They note that there were fires in the building, but do not attempt to explain the collapse. It is now more clear than ever that a culture of silence surrounds the science of 9/11 which proves beyond any reasonable doubt that the Twin Towers and Building 7 were brought down in a way totally different from the one submitted in the official story. Do the simple math, there were only two planes, but three skyscrapers collapsed. We are not asking ‘why’, Neils Harrit continues. This is no conspiracy theory. There is no burden of proof on us. Some extremely simple observations have been made, and we want to hear an official explanation that is consistent with elementary physics and chemistry, and common sense. WTC7 collapsed 7 hours after the twin towers. When you see a 47- storey tower, 186 meter high, collapse in 6.5 seconds, and if you are a scientist, you think “ what?”…I had to watch it again and again, I hit the button ten times, and my jaw dropped lower and lower. There was no visible reason why it should collapse in that way, straight down in 6.5 seconds. I had no rest since that day. Explosives in World Trade Center Neils Harrit has been hosted in a Danish TV interview to discuss his scientific theory of how WTC towers collapsed. On the interview he responded by affirming that the two airplanes- impacts did not cause the towers to collapse. And according to a newly published scientific article, researchers found Nano-Thermite explosive in the rubble of WTC collapsed buildings, that couldn’t have come from the planes. They believe large amounts of explosives were placed in the buildings in advance, Neil Harrits and eight other researchers conclude in this article that it was Nano-Thermite that caused these buildings to collapse. Thermite itself dates back to 1893, it is a mixture of aluminum and rust- powder which react to create intense heat, this reaction produces iron heated at 2500c Neils Harrit believe the intense heat melted the building’s steel support structure and caused the buildings to collapse like a house of cards. Hundreds of thousands of people around the world, this is something unstoppable, have long suspected that the three buildings were demolished. This has been crystal clear. Our research is the last nail of the coffin, says Neils Harrit. Neils Harrit`s conclusion I think there is only one conspiracy theory worth mentioning, the one involving the 19 Arab hijackers.
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A bunch of crazy Arabs, members of “Al Qaeda”, a fundamentalist group that no one has ever heard of before, that’s who. This isn't true at all. These illegal aliens planned 911 for years in advance. And after the nightmare wrought by these terrorists, the US government finally goes to task. Literally hundreds if not thousands of collaborative criminals (often admitting their own guilt for aiding or abetting the 19 terrorists) are in prison or were deported. Sorry, but this story doesn't fly in the face of truth .... but, I am sure you shall see piles of sympathizers for those silly little cave dwellers make a comment or two.
"we ought to lay off the criticism" -- Pinguinite, circa 2010-05-26 22:17:22 ET
I think there is only one conspiracy theory worth mentioning, the one involving the 19 Arab hijackers. Yeah, that's the dumbest one of all.
Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end. He (Gordon Duff) also implies that forcibly removing Obama, a Constitution-hating, on-the-down-low, crackhead Communist, is an attack on America, Mom, and apple pie. I swear these military people are worse than useless. Just look around at the condition of the country and tell me if they have fulfilled their oaths to protect the nation from all enemies foreign and domestic. Oh yeah, that one terrorist had to be waterboarded 47 TIMES before he admitted to this diabolical deed. How times were the others waterboarded?
"The conscious and intelligent manipulation of the organized habits and opinions of the masses is an important element in democratic society. Those who manipulate this unseen mechanism of society constitute an invisible government which is the true ruling power of our country. ... We are governed, our minds are molded, our tastes formed, our ideas suggested, largely by men we have never heard of." Edward Bernays, Father of Public Relations
Ignore Thread is such a wonderful feature here.
Harritt is the best they can come up with? <
---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- "we ought to lay off the criticism" -- Pinguinite, circa 2010-05-26 22:17:22 ET
This board has a lot of nice features. I like the edit function so I can fix typos and whatnot. And I have used the ignore thread feature but only once or twice. I can usually tell by the title whether it is something I am interested in and if not I just don't click on it unless someone pings me to it for some reason.
Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end. He (Gordon Duff) also implies that forcibly removing Obama, a Constitution-hating, on-the-down-low, crackhead Communist, is an attack on America, Mom, and apple pie. I swear these military people are worse than useless. Just look around at the condition of the country and tell me if they have fulfilled their oaths to protect the nation from all enemies foreign and domestic. FALSE DATA. Here is the truth: Good evening. Today, our fellow citizens, our way of life, our very freedom came under attack in a series of deliberate and deadly terrorist acts. The victims were in airplanes, or in their offices; secretaries, businessmen and women, military and federal workers; moms and dads, friends and neighbours. Thousands of lives were suddenly ended by evil, despicable acts of terror. The pictures of airplanes flying into buildings, fires burning, huge structures collapsing, have filled us with disbelief, terrible sadness, and a quiet, unyielding anger. These acts of mass murder were intended to frighten our nation into chaos and retreat. But they have failed; our country is strong. A great people has been moved to defend a great nation. Terrorist attacks can shake the foundations of our biggest buildings, but they cannot touch the foundation of America. These acts shattered steel, but they cannot dent the steel of American resolve. America was targeted for attack because we're the brightest beacon for freedom and opportunity in the world. And no one will keep that light from shining. Today, our nation saw evil, the very worst of human nature. And we responded with the best of America -- with the daring of our rescue workers, with the caring for strangers and neighbours who came to give blood and help in any way they could. Immediately following the first attack, I implemented our government's emergency response plans. Our military is powerful, and it's prepared. Our emergency teams are working in New York City and Washington, D.C. to help with local rescue efforts. Our first priority is to get help to those who have been injured, and to take every precaution to protect our citizens at home and around the world from further attacks. The functions of our government continue without interruption. Federal agencies in Washington which had to be evacuated today are reopening for essential personnel tonight, and will be open for business tomorrow. Our financial institutions remain strong, and the American economy will be open for business, as well. The search is underway for those who are behind these evil acts. I've directed the full resources of our intelligence and law enforcement communities to find those responsible and to bring them to justice. We will make no distinction between the terrorists who committed these acts and those who harbour them. I appreciate so very much the members of Congress who have joined me in strongly condemning these attacks. And on behalf of the American people, I thank the many world leaders who have called to offer their condolences and assistance. America and our friends and allies join with all those who want peace and security in the world, and we stand together to win the war against terrorism. Tonight, I ask for your prayers for all those who grieve, for the children whose worlds have been shattered, for all whose sense of safety and security has been threatened. And I pray they will be comforted by a power greater than any of us, spoken through the ages in Psalm 23: "Even though I walk through the valley of the shadow of death, I fear no evil, for You are with me." This is a day when all Americans from every walk of life unite in our resolve for justice and peace. America has stood down enemies before, and we will do so this time. None of us will ever forget this day. Yet, we go forward to defend freedom and all that is good and just in our world. GWBush NEVER said a thing about alQaeda. And it was in the evening after his jet flight home reading about GOATS to a kindergarten class in Florida.
"we ought to lay off the criticism" -- Pinguinite, circa 2010-05-26 22:17:22 ET
Good catch. Was it the next day the passports were found?
"Satan / Cheney in "08" Yep - Calcium Sulfate, as no doubt they mentioned in the vid.
"Satan / Cheney in "08" I think the record winner was 186 times. Finally - he told the truth!
"Satan / Cheney in "08" Thank you Tom. Over the past month or so (here on 4um) a lot of us have been making posts or creating threads about 911, just as yourself. It has allowed us to to review the nearly 9 year old data concerning this tragic event. I am more convinced than ever there is a pile of lies to cover-up the REAL truth. And, it has nothing to do with government corruption or direct wrong-doing. cheers!
"we ought to lay off the criticism" -- Pinguinite, circa 2010-05-26 22:17:22 ET
I think that people who believe in the government's conspiracy theories of that event are psychotic. because they are believing things that are obviously false. if they can believe these lies out of psychosis, then they're going to be crimped in their mental capabilities. That is what the september 11, 2001 events are doing to us as a people.
Revelation 6:6 And I heard a voice in the midst of the four beasts say, A measure of wheat for a penny, and three measures of barley for a penny; and [see] thou hurt not the oil and the wine.
Wow, that's some conviction to hold out that long prior to giving a "confession".
"The conscious and intelligent manipulation of the organized habits and opinions of the masses is an important element in democratic society. Those who manipulate this unseen mechanism of society constitute an invisible government which is the true ruling power of our country. ... We are governed, our minds are molded, our tastes formed, our ideas suggested, largely by men we have never heard of." Edward Bernays, Father of Public Relations
Fill us in.
"Satan / Cheney in "08" I don't. I think a lot of us have lost faith about this nation: from continuous wars around the globe, to giving our sovereign wealth to other nations MORE than ourselves, to permitting a perpetual cycle of illegal alien manifestation about our country. I think we all share a sense of doubt about those in government power. We have been abused as a People ... by continuous socialistic efforts to change the quality of life that many of us have aspired to AND work for our same progeny. The doubts, the fears, the complaints of and about an indignant government feed-back about anything that continuously subtracts from our respective lives [edit: is status quo in today's world]. So, I somewhat admire those that create some sort of ballyhoo concerning the US government as long as they make factual claims and identify the same as a supportive element towards or within their own relative perspectives. For the others that make claims unworthy of time... let them grovel in the ground swill they personally fathom.
"we ought to lay off the criticism" -- Pinguinite, circa 2010-05-26 22:17:22 ET
In 2004, Osama Bin Laden appeared in a TV interview with Al Jazeera. Bin Laden told the American people point blank what he was doing, why he was doing it, and what his future strategy against America would be. Among other statements Bin Laden made Today the US is facing bankruptcy because of uncontrolled military spending, America has a worldwide WOT where the military industrial complex rushes everywhere without accomplishing anything except enriching itself, and the American people continue to be in the dark about al Queda and its motives. Meanwhile the Pakistani and Afghanistani governments are both courting the Taliban which were supposed to have been completely neutralized in the 2001 invasion. It is very likely that American killers will play prominent roles in a new future Afghan government, and the last 9 years of warfare will have accomlished almost nothing except to "bleed America to the point of bankruptcy" just as OBL stated. And instead of looking at the results, and the comments, and doing something to make effective change, the Half Truthers dismiss the whole subject by saying the person on the video is not OBL and missing an opportunity to spend 5 years doing something that would actually work.
---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- that is great drama Buckeroo. but the initial hole that opened up in the pentagon was 20 feet wide. After construction workers cleared away damaged sections it was 40 feet wide. The plane that the government says hit the building was 125 feet wide. If you really think that a 125 foot wide plane made a 20 foot wide hole, then you are psychotic. If the government and mass media said that 2+2=5, then I'm sure you could come up with similar psycho-drama to justify that you believe that 2+2=5. But 2+2=4 and anyone who would be fooled by a government pronouncement to the contrary is psychotic. Just like a plane 125 feet wide creates a 20 foot wide hole - psychotic. The strongest part of the plane is the wing. And we're to believe that an impact of the wing on the concrete walls of that building made no impact, no hole, not even a crack or indentation in the concrete over the 125 foot wingspan. but somehow a hole 20 foot wide was blown right through the wall. Why does some of the wing create a hole all the way through, and most of the wing makes no impact at all. Psychotic people believe that a Boeing commercial jet hit that building that day. But if you have a good self-image of yourself by doing mental contortions to continue believing what you're told by the tv, then that is your choice. Its just my point of view that you're psychotic. Its just my point of view that 2+2=4. Its just my point of view that when a wing of a boeing jet crashes into a concrete wall at over 300 mph which is the slowest speed they can travel, the concrete will show the impact point at least by the hole created. Its just my own reality that when a wing hits concrete at 300 mph, then it creates a hole or a dent or a crack. You can have your reality and I can have mine. Whatever we choose is real - is real. no, we're getting psychotic when we say that a wing hit a concrete wall at 300 MPH and left no mark. No mark on the concrete means no wing hit it. Whatever hit the pentagon was less than 20 feet wide. Period. and only psychotic people disagree. Buckeroo!!! photos of that small opening in the pentagon appeared on the front page of the Los Angeles Times, Washington Post and many other newspapers all over the world.
Revelation 6:6 And I heard a voice in the midst of the four beasts say, A measure of wheat for a penny, and three measures of barley for a penny; and [see] thou hurt not the oil and the wine.
The problem of course is that Osama Ben Goldstein died in December of 2001 or at the latest Jan. 2002.
"One of the least understood strategies of the world revolution now moving rapidly toward its goal is the use of mind control as a major means of obtaining the consent of the people who will be subjects of the New World Order." K.M. Heaton, The National Educator
That is an excellent post. I hope Red Jones and Tom have time to read it. It generally summarizes my opinion, too.
"we ought to lay off the criticism" -- Pinguinite, circa 2010-05-26 22:17:22 ET
It is a good post. I think we can all agree that there is a lot more to this than has been exposed. The fact that it took over four hundred days of pressure from the widows and families before the gov. saw fit to have an official "investigation" begun. But the gov. will rapidly investigate ball players drug use.
"Satan / Cheney in "08" That's not Bin Laden.
Didn't the CIA recently admit to making OBL confession videos?
"Satan / Cheney in "08" That's not Bin Laden. Nearly 5 years ago, that person on the screen made explicit predictions about America's eventual outcome of its WOT, which are now happening this moment. These explicit predictions, which have mostly come true or are coming true, were ignored both by the USG, who said it was winning the WOT and there would be no problems, and the Tw00fers, who denied it was OBL. As a result of this ignorance by both the USG and the Tw00fers, events have unfolded exactly the way OBL said they would, to his advantage. Examples: He said the mujahedeen fighters did the same thing to the Soviet Union in Afghanistan in the 1980s, "using guerrilla warfare and the war of attrition to fight tyrannical superpowers." "We, alongside the mujahedeen, bled Russia for 10 years until it went bankrupt and was forced to withdraw in defeat," bin Laden said. (2) He also said al Qaeda has found it "easy for us to provoke and bait this administration." "All that we have to do is to send two mujahedeen to the furthest point east to raise a piece of cloth on which is written al Qaeda, in order to make generals race there to cause America to suffer human, economic and political losses without their achieving anything of note other than some benefits for their private corporations," (3) As part of the "bleed-until-bankruptcy plan," bin Laden cited a British estimate that it cost al Qaeda about $500,000 to carry out the attacks of September 11, 2001, an amount that he said paled in comparison with the costs incurred by the United States. "Every dollar of al Qaeda defeated a million dollars, by the permission of Allah, besides the loss of a huge number of jobs," he said. "As for the economic deficit, it has reached record astronomical numbers estimated to total more than a trillion dollars. The total U.S. national debt is more than $7 trillion. The U.S. federal deficit was $413 billion in 2004, according to the Treasury Department. (4) "It is true that this shows that al Qaeda has gained, but on the other hand it shows that the Bush administration has also gained, something that anyone who looks at the size of the contracts acquired by the shady Bush administration-linked mega-corporations, like Halliburton and its kind, will be convinced. "And it all shows that the real loser is you," he said. "It is the American people and their economy." As for President Bush's Iraq policy, Bin Laden said, "the darkness of black gold blurred his vision and insight, and he gave priority to private interests over the public interests of America. "So the war went ahead, the death toll rose, the American economy bled, and Bush became embroiled in the swamps of Iraq ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Another good post by AG @24. AG is well researched and understands the target issues by our reactionary government that seems to hide itself in the sand. And more to the point, a People that attempts to hide behind a powerless government that is not principled but only politicized for selfish gains.
"we ought to lay off the criticism" -- Pinguinite, circa 2010-05-26 22:17:22 ET
From a letter concerning Wikileaks: * At what point does state-sponsored disinformation become so convoluted at so many dififerent levels of need-to-know-clearance that this disinformation goes full circle and begins to be treated as fact so that only a few individuals can wade through the muck of lies and deceit. They say it is all about security. I say it is about numerous agendas working against each other. As an example, one government functionary manipulates data to fit the agenda of his handler while another manipulates the same data in a different manner to fit a different aganda, and neither are aware that they are working against each other. The goal of this is to completely confuse the 'enemy', who seems to be the average person and their democratic right to some semblance of the truth. Flag
"Satan / Cheney in "08" Who brought down the Twin Towers?
#2. To: tom007 (#0)
Neils Harrit`s conclusion
Lord Acton
OsamaBinGoldstein posted on 2010-05-25 9:39:59 ET (2 images) Reply Trace
#3. To: buckeroo (#1)
(often admitting their own guilt for aiding or abetting the 19 terrorists)
#4. To: James Deffenbach (#2)
#5. To: buckeroo, tom007 (#1)
One of the major consequences of the 9/11 movement has been to draw enormous amounts of energy and effort away from activism directed to real and ongoing crimes of state, and their institutional background, crimes that are far more serious than blowing up the WTC would be, if there were any credibility to that thesis. That is, I suspect, why the 9/11 movement is treated far more tolerantly by centers of power than is the norm for serious critical and activist work....Noam Chomsky
#6. To: tom007 (#0)
In the final FEMA report, WTC7 is hardly mentioned. They note that there were fires in the building, but do not attempt to explain the collapse.
And why should FEMA discuss WTC7? It is relegated as a footnote with the pictorial link on the left by NIST.
#7. To: Lod (#4)
Lord Acton
OsamaBinGoldstein posted on 2010-05-25 9:39:59 ET (2 images) Reply Trace
#8. To: tom007 (#0)
At eleven o’clock, on the morning of September 11, the Bush administration had already announced that Al Qaeda was responsible for the attacks on the World Trade Center (WTC) and the Pentagon. This assertion was made prior to the conduct of an in-depth criminal investigation. The speedy and clumsy indictment of Al Qaeda, made the Bush administration looked guilty of knowing in advance that attacks were planned on or around Sept. 11, 2001, and that they consciously failed to act.
9/11 speech by President George W Bush
#9. To: buckeroo (#8)
#10. To: AGAviator (#5)
#11. To: abraxas (#3)
How times were the others waterboarded?
#12. To: tom007 (#9)
#13. To: tom007 (#0)
#14. To: tom007 (#11)
I think the record winner was 186 times.
#15. To: buckeroo (#12)
I am more convinced than ever there is a pile of lies to cover-up the REAL truth. And, it has nothing to do with government corruption or direct wrong-doing.
#16. To: Red Jones, AGAviator, Tom007 (#13)
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I think that people who believe in the government's conspiracy theories of that event are psychotic.
#17. To: buckeroo, tom007 (#12)
(Edited)
I am more convinced than ever there is a pile of lies to cover-up the REAL truth. And, it has nothing to do with government corruption or direct wrong-doing.
(1) America was attacked not because jihadists hate freedom, but because of its support of Israel,
Now instead of taking these remarks seriously, and doing something to counter the facts they represent, both the US government and the k00ks denied that anything important was said in the video. With the result being many of the predictions made nearly 5 years ago are now coming true especially the bankruptcy and military losses which were unthinkable at the time.
(2) It was easy for the jihadis to provoke and bait the US, all the mujahideen have to do is wave a piece of cloth with 2 mujahids and the US will rush to whatever part of the world that is, and spend money to fight in that location,
(3) The plan was to bankrupt the United States the same way Russia was bankrupted during its own stay in Afghanistan,
(4) Bush continues to hide the real reasons for the attacks which means there are still causes for other attacks,
(5) Because of Bush's incompetence, the hijacking attacks which were planned with a 20 minute window had over an hour to be completed.
One of the major consequences of the 9/11 movement has been to draw enormous amounts of energy and effort away from activism directed to real and ongoing crimes of state, and their institutional background, crimes that are far more serious than blowing up the WTC would be, if there were any credibility to that thesis. That is, I suspect, why the 9/11 movement is treated far more tolerantly by centers of power than is the norm for serious critical and activist work....Noam Chomsky
#18. To: buckeroo (#16)
#19. To: AGAviator, AGBloviator, AGSpincycle, AGovernmentShill, tom007, FormerLurker, wudidiz, IRTorqued, Critter, Dakmar, HOUNDDAWG, all (#17)
In 2004, Osama Bin Laden appeared in a TV interview with Al Jazeera.
#20. To: AGAviator, Red Jones, tom007 (#17)
#21. To: buckeroo (#20)
That is an excellent post. I hope Red Jones and Tom
#22. To: AGAviator (#17)
I ran out of smart sounding quotes
#23. To: wudidiz (#22)
#24. To: wudidiz, buckeroo, turtle (#22)
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OBL says in the video interview
(1) "We are continuing this policy in bleeding America to the point of bankruptcy. Allah willing, and nothing is too great for Allah," bin Laden said in the transcript.
One of the major consequences of the 9/11 movement has been to draw enormous amounts of energy and effort away from activism directed to real and ongoing crimes of state, and their institutional background, crimes that are far more serious than blowing up the WTC would be, if there were any credibility to that thesis. That is, I suspect, why the 9/11 movement is treated far more tolerantly by centers of power than is the norm for serious critical and activist work....Noam Chomsky
#25. To: AGAviator, Red Jones, tom007 (#24)
#26. To: buckeroo (#25)
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