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Title: Solar Roads
Source: YOUTUBE
URL Source: http://www.consciousmedianetwork.com/video/2010/061810.htm
Published: Aug 3, 2010
Author: video
Post Date: 2010-08-03 22:47:03 by abraxas
Keywords: None
Views: 269
Comments: 8

Solar Roads

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#1. To: abraxas (#0)

everything solar and for that matter everything that is 'green' is subsidized by the taxpayers. These things cost jobs, they don't create jobs. When they first stated solar subsidies 35 years ago they told us it was only temporary and that the 'industry' would get off the ground and be economical soon. The only thing that has changed in 35 years is that the subsidies have gone up dramatically to well over 50% of the cost for everything solar.

It is a pretty fantastic and ridiculous thing to think that solar panel showed in the movie will somehow become a part of a road. Perhaps it will be done - at a very heavy subsidy, and for demonstration purposes only. Believe me - it will prove to be a failure, people will not like those roads. That is not how you build roads. If you put flat panels like that in a road, then you will screw up the road. Roads are not flat, they have a crest in the middle and it is very important that they be smooth so that a car can drive smoothly. what do you think that seam at the edge of each panel will do to people's tires? It will destroy them and create an unpleasant driving experience too. The dynamic forces of cars constantly driving over those panels will cause the seams at the edges to open up. This will cause the road to be destroyed. It won't work. Roads are things that need to last and to be maintained inexpensively. These will not do the job.

Everything solar is very heavily subsidized. Homebuilders will sell you a house with panels on the roof that will generate all the electricity for a house and even run the air conditioning here in Arizona. Very impressive, also very heavily subsidized and uneconomical. We have a big solar plant scheduled to be built north and west of Phoenix. It is I believe 75% subsidized when you add up all the subsidy sources. and the only reason it has a market is because the government mandates that utilities buy solar generated electricity.

In spain they did a study and concluded that for every 1.0 job created with 'green' subsidies there are 1.21 non-green jobs taken down by it. Why do the people that rule us insist that taxpayer money be squandered on subsidies? Why it puts our government deeper in debt and makes our economy dysfunctional. It seems to be a part of their agenda to achieve these goals.

Revelation 6:6 And I heard a voice in the midst of the four beasts say, A measure of wheat for a penny, and three measures of barley for a penny; and [see] thou hurt not the oil and the wine.

Red Jones  posted on  2010-08-03   23:21:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: Red Jones (#1)

it will prove to be a failure, people will not like those roads. That is not how you build roads.

Looked rather innovative in light of the rising costs of asphalt. I'd have to drive on it before I weigh in with a verdict.

I'm sure folks said the same thing when we started building asphalt roads, thinking that the dirt was plenty good enough. : )

"The conscious and intelligent manipulation of the organized habits and opinions of the masses is an important element in democratic society. Those who manipulate this unseen mechanism of society constitute an invisible government which is the true ruling power of our country. ... We are governed, our minds are molded, our tastes formed, our ideas suggested, largely by men we have never heard of." Edward Bernays, Father of Public Relations

abraxas  posted on  2010-08-03   23:38:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: abraxas (#2)

you don't build roads that have pre-manufactured panels in them. Especially panels that sit on the surface. Nobody's ever done it, nobody ever will.

Revelation 6:6 And I heard a voice in the midst of the four beasts say, A measure of wheat for a penny, and three measures of barley for a penny; and [see] thou hurt not the oil and the wine.

Red Jones  posted on  2010-08-04   1:06:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: Red Jones (#3) (Edited)

Nobody's ever done it, nobody ever will.

That's a horrible argument that doesn't bring anything to the table.

Nobody tried peanut butter WITH jelly......but now we consider the two a pair. Nobody EVER tried AC prior to Tesla, now the world runs on it.

Just becuase nobody has done it only means it is time somebody did do it. And in this case, they have already made the panels to the current specifications. So, even your argument is behind the curve this time around Red.

"The conscious and intelligent manipulation of the organized habits and opinions of the masses is an important element in democratic society. Those who manipulate this unseen mechanism of society constitute an invisible government which is the true ruling power of our country. ... We are governed, our minds are molded, our tastes formed, our ideas suggested, largely by men we have never heard of." Edward Bernays, Father of Public Relations

abraxas  posted on  2010-08-04   11:10:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: abraxas (#4)

Nobody tried peanumt butter WITH jelly......

In college I saw the band Bread. The opening act was called Jelly!

"A common mistake that people make when trying to design something completely foolproof is to underestimate the ingenuity of complete fools." - Douglas Adams

Turtle  posted on  2010-08-04   11:12:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: Turtle (#5)

lol........I wish I could have seen Bread. I like Bread.

"The conscious and intelligent manipulation of the organized habits and opinions of the masses is an important element in democratic society. Those who manipulate this unseen mechanism of society constitute an invisible government which is the true ruling power of our country. ... We are governed, our minds are molded, our tastes formed, our ideas suggested, largely by men we have never heard of." Edward Bernays, Father of Public Relations

abraxas  posted on  2010-08-04   11:16:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: abraxas (#6)

There..now you've seen them.

"A common mistake that people make when trying to design something completely foolproof is to underestimate the ingenuity of complete fools." - Douglas Adams

Turtle  posted on  2010-08-04   11:19:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: abraxas (#4)

doesn't bring anything to the table.

what I brought to the table is expertise. I've worked in construction for a long time. my college degree included civil engineering. So I know a lot about it. But I will admit that I could be wrong. and I was speaking boldly because I just don't like the idea. My professional expertise tells me to be skeptical of this idea. and I think I'm right. Maybe you can get the panel to work so that it doesn't deteriorate with traffic and that the cars can drive on it adequately. It will still be way too expensive. Roads are not for generating electricity. Everything solar is subsidized.

Revelation 6:6 And I heard a voice in the midst of the four beasts say, A measure of wheat for a penny, and three measures of barley for a penny; and [see] thou hurt not the oil and the wine.

Red Jones  posted on  2010-08-04   12:48:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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