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Published: Aug 5, 2010
Author: Joel S. Hirschhorn
Post Date: 2010-08-05 10:51:44 by statusquobuster
Keywords: 9/11, 9/11 truth, conspiracy
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Comments: 37
Months, years and then decades slip by. Despite an avalanche of information burying me everyday I had not read or heard anything about 9/11 truth for many, many months. Sometimes movements become so marginalized that they no longer have enough vitality to stay within the consciousness of very many people. I am sure, of course, that there are 9/11 truthers out there that still give and attend talks, write and receive emails and have lively conversations about the insanity of the official government story about 9/11 surviving and various alternative explanations of what really happened. Yet, in not too many weeks, another 9/11 anniversary will be here. And maybe then I will be hit again with chatter about what really happened on that past fateful and awful day. But today it is this writing by me that is my 9/11 truth: Hardly any Americans are concerned about 9/11 truth and there is no real interest in Congress in launching a new investigation. So I went to a few 9/11 websites of groups that I am affiliated with; they were still there. And then I did a Google news search for 9/11 truth. Here is what I gleaned. The first news item was something that the head of WikiLeaks.org, that was very much in the news lately because it was distributing a huge amount of materials on the war in Afghanistan, had said about the 9/11 truth movement: "I'm constantly annoyed that people are distracted by false conspiracies such as 9/11, when all around we provide evidence of real conspiracies, for war or mass financial fraud." This did not surprise me, even though, personally, I still believe that the US government conspired to keep the full truth about 9/11 hidden from the public. But then I quickly came across a story in a local New Hampshire newspaper about a recent 9/11 truth group participation in a local event, and that heartened me that the diehard truthers were still marching proudly. Indeed, this was noted: “We would like to extend our warmest thanks to [the former Keene Mayor, State Representative, and one of our World War II veterans] for bravely standing tall and marching with our group. Your presence commands respect and it was indeed an honor to have you all join us. We sincerely appreciate your willingness to show support for our efforts to publicize the need for a new 9/11 investigation.” And I was heartened to learn that the fourth of July parade in Takoma Park, MD where I once lived had a float for the 9/11 Truth Now group in it. Back to the WikiLeaks situation; this website has rightfully received incredible worldwide attention by the mainstream media for its ability to obtain and publicize key documents shedding light where the government and corporations don’t want it. For 9/11 truthers here is something that merits very serious thought. If we are correct, then a fairly large number of people had a hand, probably as part of a black ops action, designing and executing many things, not the least of which was the controlled demolition of the three World Trade Center buildings. So why have none of these people leaked materials to a place like WikiLeaks? Could they all have been so bought off or threatened to stay quiet? Perhaps. But I must admit I find the lack of leakers troubling. Of course, if the government had pursued prosecution of the many government workers that did nothing to prevent the 9/11 actions for, say, criminally negligent homicide, then perhaps some would have cut deals and blown the whistle. But as far as I can remember no civilian or military personnel were nailed for failure to detect and prevent the terrorism. Don’t get me wrong. I am not saying that just because no 9/11 whistleblowers have come forward with compelling evidence that the official story is believable. Not at all. What the 9/11 truth movement needs, however, is a steady focus on the considerable evidence that undermines the official story, rather than on evidence supporting various alternative theories of what happened. In this regard, the website of Architects and Engineers for 9/11 truth http://ae911truth.org/ remains as one of the best sources of serious, trustworthy information. The group has an event on September 9 this year in Washington, DC and also visits to various members of Congress to lobby for a new investigation. But if they do not offer draft legislation it will be a waste of time. My other favorite website is Alan Miller’s wonderful Patriots Question 9/11 http://patriotsquestion911.com/, where so many credible people have openly questioned the official story, more than enough to convince the most skeptical people to support a new investigation. Thirdly, I urge people to use the Scholars for 9/11 Truth website http://911scholars.org/ because it also offers useful, reliable information. Also impressive is the continued work of the NYCCAN group at http://www.nyccan.org/index.php. They have asked the Manhattan District Attorney to investigate the collapse of WTC 7. Recently, they had 400 supporters mail or fax the DA the attached letter, which focuses on the destruction of evidence at the WTC site. The group thinks this is the most likely route the DA would take to opening any kind of investigation into 9/11. Yes, the movement is still alive. But when will it succeed in getting a new credible and comprehensive government investigation? That is the issue. When people in the public spotlight do not support the truth movement, as the head of WikiLeaks has done, it is a sign that success remains elusive. One truther exception was Daniel Sunjata, a lead actor from the popular FX television show "Rescue Me." The coming anniversary of 9/11 will most likely show that we still lack a critical mass of public demand for a new government investigation. One glimmer of hope might be the wide scale rejection of incumbents in Congress. Do candidates for Congress support a new investigation? The truth movement should get their act together and spread the word that truthers should only vote for candidates supporting a new investigation. [Contact Joel S. Hirschhorn through delusionaldemocracy.com.]
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#3. To: statusquobuster (#0)
"THERE" that's what we need !
noone222: "THERE" that's what we need ! The Constitution is our real government. We need to disown the subverters of it and go about the business of our own Constitutional governance without them.
The Constitution was our real government. This might sound mean to some but when I watch the Tea-Party clips and see all of the people carrying signs demanding liberty and smaller government it reminds me of the "patriot" rallys that have 90% of their participants collecting some kind of government check or benefit. The truth is that these people are still ignorant of the "mote in their own eye" ... while claiming "CONSTITUTIONAL" rights on the one hand, they collect their disability check with the other. Hypocrites !
This might sound mean to some but when I watch the Tea-Party clips and see all of the people carrying signs demanding liberty and smaller government it reminds me of the "patriot" rallys that have 90% of their participants collecting some kind of government check or benefit. The truth is that these people are still ignorant of the "mote in their own eye" ... while claiming "CONSTITUTIONAL" rights on the one hand, they collect their disability check with the other. Hypocrites ! It's my real government and those who believe likewise. I don't know why you think it's hypocritical if people don't go to the poorhouse to prove that. Would you? Help them to find an alternative currency and exchange system, like we've discussed and you know is having some success in Michigan, if it bothers you so much, Grumplestiltskin.
The evidence demonstrates otherwise. I don't know why you think it's hypocritical if people don't go to the poorhouse to prove that. Would you? Yes. Your proposition suggests we should compromise our values to avoid the poorhouse. I'd prefer the poorhouse (or prison) to contributing to Uncle Sambo's genocide program. The Constitution that you believe in cannot and does not exist in the commercial law jurisdiction that you operate in. {The Constitution only operates under the common-law}. You have NO Constitutional Rights. You have privileges allowed you by the federal reserve bank governing authority. Restoring liberty in America is not going to be painless.
You: The evidence demonstrates otherwise. To you. Not to me. Hey, how did you get in here? Don't freak. It's just Lenny from "Toy Story." He's not really from surveillance. It just looks like it. See how easy it can be to misinterpret what you might think is obvious? He only wants to help you see past the nose on your face and the bankers so you can give the evidence a better rethink. :) You: Yes. I saw a man the other day sleeping under a viadoct with a shopping cart, one of his legs propped up on a beam to try and be more comfortable there. It's Summer and warm and I was stuck in moving traffic so I kept going and told myself it might offend his pride if I turned around and stopped. Further down the road, there are sometimes men with signs begging for work, one missing half a leg and standing on crutches. I heard they used to arrest one of the so-called "bag ladies" around here periodically just to get her some care until she eventually died. Are you sure there'd even be a poorhouse you could go to? How would you fend for yourself there into old age? Charity from the money of others that you wanted to escape? Become a mountainman or woodsman and survive off the land as long as you can? He'd probably be happy to hear that, especially if you have dependant children. Maybe you don't but, for those who do, going your route on purpose would be like asking for a CSB nightmare. They might make you work in prison with some sort of monetary system to deduct expenses from but you'd have shelter and meals provided. There's no compromise of values with my proposition. As I see it, we didn't create the miserable money mess that's been foisted on us against our wills and giving them the satisfaction of helping them to impoverish us quicker to the point of death isn't the best option, imo. I'd be willing to exchange all of your money for an alternative currency here of...let's call it the Constitution Club and Trading Post for goods and labors. All you'd have to do to become a memeber is agree to follow the Constitution and donate some of your Fed Res type currency to the charity of your choice. If enough people did that, their money would become even more worthless than it is now, which would likely make more and more people start thinking that they'd like to become Constitutionalists too. Are you even willing to give it a try? I am. You have NO Constitutional Rights. You have privileges allowed you by the federal reserve bank governing authority. My Rights are inalienable. That's why they're called Rights and not privileges. What doesn't really exist with any legitimate authority in the Constitutional system is what you've been professing to detest. Try to get into the Freedom state of mind and leave their shackles with them and their other assistants. I think you'll be gladder that you did. The US of A belongs to Constitutionalists, not interloping aliens and invaders from foreign systems. Not by your proposal. I'll trade you for it. I saw a really cool home improvement show that used music sheets for wallpaper. I could use some wallpaper. I'll print that out and get at it ASAP. You can have a copy of my proposal and hopefully a more upbeat outlook on the situation. Say yes and it's a done deal, even-steven swap. :)
#33. To: GreyLmist (#30)
I agree with you. That which I detest exists outside of the Constitutional System and everyone with a Social Security Card (sharing the public debt) also exists outside of the Constitutional System.
How have people done it from the beginning of time until 1935 when Social Security was invented ? Become a mountainman or woodsman and survive off the land as long as you can? I farm. My Rights are inalienable. You have as many rights as you're able to enforce. Beyond that, you appear to be willing to participate in, or condone the crimes against humanity that the government is committing so that you aren't inconvenienced. We should ask the parents of the dead kids the U.S. Govt. kills daily if they think their children will need old age benefits. Americans have been insulated from the wars being waged by their government for corporate interests and bankers greed but that doesn't mean it's not happening. I'm sad that materialism and convenience have stolen the soul of America.
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#6. To: noone222 (#3)
Excerpt: The coming anniversary of 9/11 will most likely show that we still lack a critical mass of public demand for a new government
#19. To: GreyLmist, all, 4 (#6)
The Constitution is our real government
#21. To: noone222 (#19)
The Constitution was our real government.
#22. To: GreyLmist (#21)
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It's my real government and those who believe likewise.
#30. To: noone222 (#22)
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Me: It's my real government and those who believe likewise.
Me: I don't know why you think it's hypocritical if people don't go to the poorhouse to prove that. Would you?
You: Your proposition suggests we should compromise our values to avoid the poorhouse. I'd prefer the poorhouse (or prison) to contributing to Uncle Sambo's genocide program.
The Constitution that you believe in cannot and does not exist in the commercial law jurisdiction that you operate in. {The Constitution only operates under the common-law}.
Restoring liberty in America is not going to be painless.
Replies to Comment # 30. What doesn't really exist with any legitimate authority in the Constitutional system is what you've been professing to detest.
#34. To: GreyLmist (#30)
How would you fend for yourself there into old age? Charity from the money of others that you wanted to escape?
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