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Title: MUST SEE TO BELIEVE* Water Melts Steel!
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Published: Aug 9, 2010
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Post Date: 2010-08-09 20:47:09 by James Deffenbach
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#17. To: James Deffenbach (#0)

Ain't nothing new about this invention, it's called fraud.

Bill Crowe  posted on  2010-08-10   1:02:11 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: Bill Crowe (#17)

Ain't nothing new about this invention, it's called fraud.

There is nothing fraudulent about "burning" hydrogen, which is actually oxidizing it since hydrogen as an element is obviously not destroyed. Combining hydrogen with oxygen will give off heat energy.

And there's nothing new about electricity breaking the H2O into H and O2. The only issue is the amount of energy required to do it.

The hydrogen welders are real enough. There's no challenge to existing science with them.

Obviously the issues of the law of conservation of energy need to be satisfied when it comes to the use of water as a fuel instead of an energy storage medium (by breaking it into H and O2). I would love to see an alleged "over unity" motor in person. There are many who claim to have made this work, and there is some room for this to work without violating any standing laws of physics, in the same way that heavier than air objects can fly without violating the law of gravity.

Pinguinite  posted on  2010-08-10   2:48:37 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#29. To: Pinguinite (#19)

There is nothing fraudulent about "burning" hydrogen, which is actually oxidizing it since hydrogen as an element is obviously not destroyed.

You're correct. I should have said this guys car that water is its fuel is a fraud. It's not full blown cynicism that I deny that it does but experience loosely outlined in my post to James #24. The question is now moot with JRiggs post 26.

I am going to check out the "over unity" motor as I have never heard of it.

Bill Crowe  posted on  2010-08-11   1:11:17 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#30. To: Bill Crowe (#29)

I am going to check out the "over unity" motor as I have never heard of it.

"Over-unity" is a term that describes a motor that puts out more energy than it consumes or, perhaps, only appears to consume. Searching on that term will give you some interesting results. On youtube too.

Some of these type devices are allegedly rooted in quantum mechanics. Do a net search on John Hutchison. He is kinda a mad scientist with a hobby expanding on Tesla's experiments. There's some controversy around him but some of his stuff seems quite authentic. There's photos of metals which appear to have melted at room temperature. He claims to have made a battery that never runs out of power, though not with the energy capacity of that portrayed in the latest Tom Cruise/Camaroon Diaz movie (Perhaps Hutchison's claim was the movie inspiration).

A number of people claim to have developed water engines and searches will turn up a number of videos from various sources.

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